Which group of people today would be most like our forefathers?

Actually they were called Liberals then. Still are.
That was the whole point.


Modern-day American "liberals" have absolutely nothing in common with classic liberals. Even less than modern-day American "Nazis" have in common with 1930's German Nazis.
We already know the modern day American Nazi’s belong to the Republican Party. Everybody knows that.

How so? I'm a Republican and I admire the Jews for creating an oasis of civilization in a cesspool of Islamic radicalism. Israel is a wonderful ally of ours, and the Jews are God's chosen people.

If the truth be told, you American "liberals" support people like Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam, the Islamic Brotherhood, CAIR, the Palestinians, Hamas, and Hezbollah, who have much in common with 1930's German Nazis: They too wanted to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth, as your radical buddies do. You sure raised hell when President Trump wanted a travel ban from certain Jew-hating Muslim countries, didn't you?

Hell, that Turd-Burglar Barack Obama actually gave billions of dollars to the Iranians, which ya'll still defend to this very day.

How predictable that you just diffused the distinction between "Jews" and "Israel". Words must just be a pea-soup fog to summa y'all.

There is no difference between "Jews" and "Israel. They are one and the same.

"Good morning, welcome to United Airlines. Where are we flying today?"

"Jews".

D U M B A S S
 
Actually they were called Liberals then. Still are.
That was the whole point.


Modern-day American "liberals" have absolutely nothing in common with classic liberals. Even less than modern-day American "Nazis" have in common with 1930's German Nazis.
We already know the modern day American Nazi’s belong to the Republican Party. Everybody knows that.

How so? I'm a Republican and I admire the Jews for creating an oasis of civilization in a cesspool of Islamic radicalism. Israel is a wonderful ally of ours, and the Jews are God's chosen people.

If the truth be told, you American "liberals" support people like Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam, the Islamic Brotherhood, CAIR, the Palestinians, Hamas, and Hezbollah, who have much in common with 1930's German Nazis: They too wanted to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth, as your radical buddies do. You sure raised hell when President Trump wanted a travel ban from certain Jew-hating Muslim countries, didn't you?

Hell, that Turd-Burglar Barack Obama actually gave billions of dollars to the Iranians, which ya'll still defend to this very day.
I don’t support Louis Farrakhan. I don’t know anybody that does. Or any of those other groups that you’re talking about.

But I know David Duke says if you don’t vote Republican and you don’t vote for Donald Trump then you’re a traitor and David dukes is the head of the KKK and a member of the American Nazi party.

In fact if you do a Google search of Nazis and white nationalist running for office. You’ll find they all run as Republicans. All of them.

Duke isn't the "head of" the KKK. It doesn't have one. Duke invented his own Klan chapter and crowned himself Grand Wankball or whatever but that's playing dress-up. Before that he was a Nazi. After that he was a parish Republican party chair and a state legislator. The actual Klan hasn't had a head since 1944 when it officially dissolved.

Duke also sued the city of New Orleans years ago when it moved the Liberty Place Monument, celebrating the white coup d'êtat of 1874 by one of the other Klan-like groups called the White League, to try to make them put it back in its prominent perch on Canal Street, the most visible high-traffic spot in the city. That was the first monument New Orleans finally took down in the Confederate monument removals of 2017.

Duke was also of course in Charlottesville chastizing Rump for his initial evenhanded commentary, goading him with "remember who voted for you", after which Rump obediently started ranting about "very fine people".


and that was all after he ran for President as a Democrat, correct?
 
Which group of people today would be most like our forefathers?

I know Republicans of today just assume it would be white farmers and white coal miners and white laborers and those are the people that started this country.

But if you actually go through the people involved at the time, you would find them to be what passed as the wealthy, the elite, scientists, and so on.

No farmer today could actually write the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of Rights or the Constitution or any of the documents this country is founded on.

Those had to be written by seasoned and professional lawyers and intellectuals.

Today, what we call “liberals”.
Not sure who would qualify today as being most like our Founding Fathers.
Our founding Fathers never envisioned politics to be a career while they were writing the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights or the Constitution.
They were concerned for what was best for our people as a nation and protect us from an overreaching government.

Today it is a career and a very lucrative one, not by the pay scale, but by the dealings behind the curtains.
Today, it's about eroding the Bill of Rights and Constitution to give more powers to our government.

Tough question, indeed.
 
Which group of people today would be most like our forefathers?

I know Republicans of today just assume it would be white farmers and white coal miners and white laborers and those are the people that started this country.

But if you actually go through the people involved at the time, you would find them to be what passed as the wealthy, the elite, scientists, and so on.

No farmer today could actually write the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of Rights or the Constitution or any of the documents this country is founded on.

Those had to be written by seasoned and professional lawyers and intellectuals.

Today, what we call “liberals”.
Not sure who would qualify today as being most like our Founding Fathers.
Our founding Fathers never envisioned politics to be a career while they were writing the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights or the Constitution.
They were concerned for what was best for our people as a nation and protect us from an overreaching government.

Today it is a career and a very lucrative one, not by the pay scale, but by the dealings behind the curtains.
Today, it's about eroding the Bill of Rights and Constitution to give more powers to our government.

Tough question, indeed.
we know one thing...dean would not fit in with the founders,every time he was spotted walking up to the door at a meeting, every one there would be saying "oh shit its dean" ....and everyone would be going out the back door before he gets there...
 
Modern-day American "liberals" have absolutely nothing in common with classic liberals. Even less than modern-day American "Nazis" have in common with 1930's German Nazis.
We already know the modern day American Nazi’s belong to the Republican Party. Everybody knows that.

How so? I'm a Republican and I admire the Jews for creating an oasis of civilization in a cesspool of Islamic radicalism. Israel is a wonderful ally of ours, and the Jews are God's chosen people.

If the truth be told, you American "liberals" support people like Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam, the Islamic Brotherhood, CAIR, the Palestinians, Hamas, and Hezbollah, who have much in common with 1930's German Nazis: They too wanted to wipe the Jews off the face of the earth, as your radical buddies do. You sure raised hell when President Trump wanted a travel ban from certain Jew-hating Muslim countries, didn't you?

Hell, that Turd-Burglar Barack Obama actually gave billions of dollars to the Iranians, which ya'll still defend to this very day.
I don’t support Louis Farrakhan. I don’t know anybody that does. Or any of those other groups that you’re talking about.

But I know David Duke says if you don’t vote Republican and you don’t vote for Donald Trump then you’re a traitor and David dukes is the head of the KKK and a member of the American Nazi party.

In fact if you do a Google search of Nazis and white nationalist running for office. You’ll find they all run as Republicans. All of them.

Duke isn't the "head of" the KKK. It doesn't have one. Duke invented his own Klan chapter and crowned himself Grand Wankball or whatever but that's playing dress-up. Before that he was a Nazi. After that he was a parish Republican party chair and a state legislator. The actual Klan hasn't had a head since 1944 when it officially dissolved.

Duke also sued the city of New Orleans years ago when it moved the Liberty Place Monument, celebrating the white coup d'êtat of 1874 by one of the other Klan-like groups called the White League, to try to make them put it back in its prominent perch on Canal Street, the most visible high-traffic spot in the city. That was the first monument New Orleans finally took down in the Confederate monument removals of 2017.

Duke was also of course in Charlottesville chastizing Rump for his initial evenhanded commentary, goading him with "remember who voted for you", after which Rump obediently started ranting about "very fine people".

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and that was all after he ran for President as a Democrat, correct?

Which part?

Duke attempted to run in the Democratic primaries in 1988, got nowhere and switched to Republican the same year and yet got the nomination from something called the Populist Party. Having failed that run he ran for a state house seat the following year in a special election ('89, as a Republican) and won, the only office he ever won. One of his proposals was that welfare recipients should be drug tested, which later gained traction elsewhere in conservative/statist circles. In 1990 and 1991 he ran for Senator and Governor, respectively, then in 1992 entered the Republican Presidential primaries. Then 1996 for Senate again, 1999 for a US House seat, lost 'em all.

In 2000 Dukey aimed at the Presidency again, this time with the Reform Party, and at the time Donald Rump disengaged from that party, citing Duke by name as the type with which he "did not wish to be associated" --- and then early in 2016 the self-described world's greatest memory claimed not to know who Dukey even is, after pointing him out by name in 2000.

Next time Dukey actually ran for anything was 2016 when he tried a third time for the Senate. He lost but the interesting factoid from that experience was that during that race while both the Senate and the Presidency were in campaign, Dukey the self-made Klansman was pulling more support from black voters in Louisiana than Rump was. :rofl:
 
One of the many blessings of the USA is that we have the right to change our history so it fits our politics.
 
Which group of people today would be most like our forefathers?

I know Republicans of today just assume it would be white farmers and white coal miners and white laborers and those are the people that started this country.

But if you actually go through the people involved at the time, you would find them to be what passed as the wealthy, the elite, scientists, and so on.

No farmer today could actually write the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of Rights or the Constitution or any of the documents this country is founded on.

Those had to be written by seasoned and professional lawyers and intellectuals.

Today, what we call “liberals”.
Liberals the same people who want to limit the Constitution ? You are historically retarded
 
Which group of people today would be most like our forefathers?

I know Republicans of today just assume it would be white farmers and white coal miners and white laborers and those are the people that started this country.

But if you actually go through the people involved at the time, you would find them to be what passed as the wealthy, the elite, scientists, and so on.

No farmer today could actually write the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of Rights or the Constitution or any of the documents this country is founded on.

Those had to be written by seasoned and professional lawyers and intellectuals.

Today, what we call “liberals”.
Liberals the same people who want to limit the Constitution ? You are historically retarded

That would be Liberals the same people who wrote the Constitution.
 
The 'founders' were the radical left in the world of their time. They established what was the standard, the 'middle' for early America. It's been downhill since then.
 
Which group of people today would be most like our forefathers?

I know Republicans of today just assume it would be white farmers and white coal miners and white laborers and those are the people that started this country.

But if you actually go through the people involved at the time, you would find them to be what passed as the wealthy, the elite, scientists, and so on.

No farmer today could actually write the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of Rights or the Constitution or any of the documents this country is founded on.

Those had to be written by seasoned and professional lawyers and intellectuals.

Today, what we call “liberals”.
How would unarmed citizens fight against an oppressive state?
 
Which group of people today would be most like our forefathers?

I know Republicans of today just assume it would be white farmers and white coal miners and white laborers and those are the people that started this country.

But if you actually go through the people involved at the time, you would find them to be what passed as the wealthy, the elite, scientists, and so on.

No farmer today could actually write the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of Rights or the Constitution or any of the documents this country is founded on.

Those had to be written by seasoned and professional lawyers and intellectuals.

Today, what we call “liberals”.

Actually they were called Liberals then. Still are.
That was the whole point.

They supported individual liberty and fought against an all powerful government. Anyway, dont you keep telling us that "the Parties switched sides"?
 
The firearm extremists always claim the armed forces would be on their side if arms were to be confiscated Yet, the same armed forces would support an "oppressive" government. Not very consistent.
Fortunately, the argument is moot, since nothing in our lifetime will change the Second Amendment.
 
Which group of people today would be most like our forefathers?

I know Republicans of today just assume it would be white farmers and white coal miners and white laborers and those are the people that started this country.

But if you actually go through the people involved at the time, you would find them to be what passed as the wealthy, the elite, scientists, and so on.

No farmer today could actually write the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of Rights or the Constitution or any of the documents this country is founded on.

Those had to be written by seasoned and professional lawyers and intellectuals.

Today, what we call “liberals”.

You write the funniest crap.

Yes, the Founders were wealthy, educated, and proponents of liberalism, the classical form of which has no relation to the misnamed version forwarded by the neo-Communists of today.

The Founders would have had you people shot along with the British.
Actually, our founders enjoyed tarring and feathering conservatives

They would find today’s conservatives to be quite inviting
 
And the Nazis hated people of color. And they hated gays. They would fit right in with today’s Republican Party. You know that. I know that. Everybody we know, knows that.

What makes you think I "hate" gay people or people of color?

I only find them disgusting when they're Democrats.
It’s a fact that Republicans are nearly all white. They are that way for a reason. It’s their hate for minorities and gays.
It’s not like it’s a secret.
 
Conservatives would’ve kept the English king.
Conservatives don’t want things to change. They absolutely did not want it a liberal government. Remember it was conservatives who wanted to make Washington King after it became clear the US was declaring independence.
 
The Welsh. We invented the US once and could do it again.

No and no. The Welsh fought under General Thomas Gage during the Revolutionary War. They were lobsterbacks.

Revolutionary War - Welsh Fusiliers
Declaration of Independence |

Almost 50% of the Signatories of American Independence and constitution were Welsh, 20% of the pilgrim fathers were Welsh as was the captain of the Mayflower itself. There have been at least 9 American presidents of Welsh descent including three of arguably the most iconic and influential; Thomas Jefferson, Jefferson Davis and Abraham Lincoln.

Thomas Jefferson read, spoke, and wrote Welsh as can be seen by his correspondence with his principal aid and fellow Welsh American icon Merriwether Lewis who corresponded with Jefferson in Welsh in all his dispatches whilst trailing and founding the Northwest Passage across America together with fellow Celt William Clark (a precedent for the use of American Indian code talkers in WWII – the ‘code’ the Japanese were unable to break)

You are all beholding to the Welsh.
 
Which group of people today would be most like our forefathers?

I know Republicans of today just assume it would be white farmers and white coal miners and white laborers and those are the people that started this country.

But if you actually go through the people involved at the time, you would find them to be what passed as the wealthy, the elite, scientists, and so on.

No farmer today could actually write the Declaration of Independence or the Bill of Rights or the Constitution or any of the documents this country is founded on.

Those had to be written by seasoned and professional lawyers and intellectuals.

Today, what we call “liberals”.
........still have not found those mythical intelligent and compassionate Liberals
 

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