Which Date Would You Honor?

Today is a significant date in the life for two luminaries of their political party.....one Republican, one Democrat.

1. John C. Frémont, in full John Charles Frémont, (born January 21, 1813, Savannah, Georgia, U.S.—died July 13, 1890, New York, New York), American military officer and an early explorer and mapmaker of the American West, who was one of the principal figures in opening up that region to settlement and was instrumental in the U.S. conquest and development of California. He was also a politician who ran unsuccessfully for the U.S. presidency in 1856 as the first candidate of the newly formed Republican Party.
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The very first candidate for the party formed for the specific purpose of ending slavery in the United States.






2. Nathan Bedford Forrest, (born July 13, 1821, near Chapel Hill, Tennessee, U.S.—died October 29, 1877, Memphis, Tennessee), Confederate cavalry commander in the American Civil War (1861–65) who was often described as a “born military genius.” His rule of action, “Get there first with the most men,” became one of the most often quoted statements of the war. Forrest is also one of the most controversial figures from the Civil War era. His command was responsible for the massacre of African American Union troops stationed at Fort Pillow, Tennessee, in April 1864, and he served as the first grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan in the early years of Reconstruction.
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On Demcember 24, 1865, Forrest formed the military arm of the Democrat Party, the Invisible Empire of the Ku Klux Klan.

In his honor, Hollywood used his name and family association for the film, Forrest Gump.

Which date to honor?

Hmmm... date with you ? :D
 
Like every soldier he had many sides but I take your point. Which other soldiers that tried to destroy the US should we be honoring? Yamamoto maybe?
Confederate soldiers didn't try to destroy the US. Confederate politicians didn't do that either. They just went their way, and didn't tell northern states what to do. It was northern states that were telling THEM what to do.

Another nice try.
 
The OP celebrates May 1st, also known as known as the Day of the International Solidarity of Workers.


Let's remind all of how lacking in education you are.


May Day.....the holiday of Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, and Mussolini.



Government school, an arm of the Left, attempts to pretend that there is even a 1° of difference between Communism and Nazism, or Fascism.

There isn't.

Those three and these three....Liberalism, Progressivism, and Socialism, all have the very same collectivist, statist aim for society.

The celebration of May Day gives a clue.

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On this day in 1889, May Day—traditionally a celebration of the return of spring, marked by dancing around a Maypole—was first observed as a labour holiday, designated as such by the International Socialist Congress.
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One of those interesting facts that helps verify that Hitler was as much a Leftist as Stalin is that Hitler made MayDay his Nazi holiday, too.

The Nazis sought to gain support of workers by declaring May Day, a day celebrated by organized labour, to be a paid holiday and held celebrations on 1 May 1933 to honour German workers Life and Death in the Third ReichFirst Edition Edition
byPeter Fritzsche p. 45


The regime also insisted through propaganda that all Germans take part in the May Day celebrations in the hope that this would help break down class hostility between workers and burghers.[13]Songs in praise of labour and workers were played by state radio throughout May Day as well as an airshow in Berlin and fireworks.[13]Hitler spoke of workers as patriots who had built Germany's industrial strength and had honourably served in the war and claimed that they had been oppressed undereconomic liberalism.[14]Berliner Morgenpostthat had been strongly associated with the political left in the past praised the regime's May Day celebrations.[14]
Volksgemeinschaft - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Here's Stalin's version....






And here, Communists and Fascists, together.




Stalin helped Mussolini set up his May Day celebration...

'The youngest prime minister in Italian history,....Mussolini was showered with accolades from sundry quarters.... Stalin supplied Mussolini with the plans of the May Day parades in Red Square,to help him polish up his Fascist pageants....He conquered Ethiopia, madea Pact of Steel with Germany, introduced anti-Jewish measures in 1938,came into the war as Hitler's very junior partner,..." The Mystery of Fascism by David Ramsay Steele



Socialist, fascists, Nazis, communists......Leftist all.
As are Progressives and Modern Liberals.





Really put your foot in your mouth,. huh?
 
Like every soldier he had many sides but I take your point. Which other soldiers that tried to destroy the US should we be honoring? Yamamoto maybe?
Confederate soldiers didn't try to destroy the US. Confederate politicians didn't do that either. They just went their way, and didn't tell northern states what to do. It was northern states that were telling THEM what to do.

Another nice try.
I seem to recall the first shot of that war was an attack on a US military base. If the rebels had succeeded the US would look very different than it does today. If Yamamoto had succeeded the US would probably look very much as it does today. So which enemy of the US should we honor?
 
Like every soldier he had many sides but I take your point. Which other soldiers that tried to destroy the US should we be honoring? Yamamoto maybe?
Confederate soldiers didn't try to destroy the US. Confederate politicians didn't do that either. They just went their way, and didn't tell northern states what to do. It was northern states that were telling THEM what to do.

Another nice try.
I seem to recall the first shot of that war was an attack on a US military base. If the rebels had succeeded the US would look very different than it does today. If Yamamoto had succeeded the US would probably look very much as it does today. So which enemy of the US should we honor?
Ummmm... the first shot fired was upon a Union merchant ship, the Star of the West, as it tried to deliver supplies to Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor, South Carolina.
 
Today is a significant date in the life for two luminaries of their political party.....one Republican, one Democrat.

1. John C. Frémont, in full John Charles Frémont, (born January 21, 1813, Savannah, Georgia, U.S.—died July 13, 1890, New York, New York), American military officer and an early explorer and mapmaker of the American West, who was one of the principal figures in opening up that region to settlement and was instrumental in the U.S. conquest and development of California. He was also a politician who ran unsuccessfully for the U.S. presidency in 1856 as the first candidate of the newly formed Republican Party.
Britannica.com
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The very first candidate for the party formed for the specific purpose of ending slavery in the United States.






2. Nathan Bedford Forrest, (born July 13, 1821, near Chapel Hill, Tennessee, U.S.—died October 29, 1877, Memphis, Tennessee), Confederate cavalry commander in the American Civil War (1861–65) who was often described as a “born military genius.” His rule of action, “Get there first with the most men,” became one of the most often quoted statements of the war. Forrest is also one of the most controversial figures from the Civil War era. His command was responsible for the massacre of African American Union troops stationed at Fort Pillow, Tennessee, in April 1864, and he served as the first grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan in the early years of Reconstruction.
Britannica.com
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On Demcember 24, 1865, Forrest formed the military arm of the Democrat Party, the Invisible Empire of the Ku Klux Klan.

In his honor, Hollywood used his name and family association for the film, Forrest Gump.
Forrest led the last heroic charge at Battle of Shiloh. Charged the Union line alone slashing with his sabre in the middle of a group of Yankees. Someone shouted "Kill the goddamn rebel!" Union soldier stuck his rifle in Forrest side and fired, lifting Forrest up in his saddle. As Forrest rode away he grabbed a blue coat and swung him up on the back of his saddle to cover his retreat, then tossed the invader to the ground when he was through with him.



Are we comparing that to this?

"Between 1882 and 1964, nearly five thousand people died from lynching, the majority African-American. The 1890s witnessed the worst period of lynching in U.S. history. Lynchings, often witnessed by large crowds of white onlookers, were the most extreme form of Southern [Democrat] white control over the African-American population, regularly meted out against African Americans who had been falsely charged with crimes but in fact were achieving a level of political or economic autonomy that whites found unacceptable.

The history of failed attempts to pass federal antilyching legislation goes back to 1894, when a House bill to set up a committee to investigate lynchings failed. In 1922, the House passed a bill to make lynching a Federal crime, but despite President Warren G. Harding’s support, Southern [Democrat] senators filibustered and defeated it. In 1933, [Democrat] President Franklin D. Roosevelt failed to support an antilynching bill proposed by the NAACP, fearing that key Southerners lawmakers would retaliate and interfere with his New Deal agenda. "

Nice little ADDITION of YOURS, by continually ADDING "Democrats" to the copyrighted article....

We can see through you, like plexiglass.... :rolleyes:


Here is how the ACTUAL article states it....


Between 1882 and 1964, nearly five thousand people died from lynching, the majority African-American. The 1890s witnessed the worst period of lynching in U.S. history. Lynchings, often witnessed by large crowds of white onlookers, were the most extreme form of Southern white control over the African-American population, regularly meted out against African Americans who had been falsely charged with crimes but in fact were achieving a level of political or economic autonomy that whites found unacceptable. The history of failed attempts to pass federal antilyching legislation goes back to 1894, when a House bill to set up a committee to investigate lynchings failed. In 1922, the House passed a bill to make lynching a Federal crime, but despite President Warren G. Harding’s support, Southern senators filibustered and defeated it. In 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt failed to support an antilynching bill proposed by the NAACP, fearing that key Southerners lawmakers would retaliate and interfere with his New Deal agenda. In February 1948, President Harry S. Truman asked Congress for federal antilynching legislation. In the following testimony to a House subcommittee, four Southern Congressmen discussed their reasons for opposing what they deemed federal interference in state judicial responsibilities and defend segregation and the “peaceful relations now existing between white man and Negro” in the South. Congressman Charles E. Bennett (Florida) also offered his historical explanation for lynching. None of the bills under consideration by the subcommittee passed.
 
Today is a significant date in the life for two luminaries of their political party.....one Republican, one Democrat.

1. John C. Frémont, in full John Charles Frémont, (born January 21, 1813, Savannah, Georgia, U.S.—died July 13, 1890, New York, New York), American military officer and an early explorer and mapmaker of the American West, who was one of the principal figures in opening up that region to settlement and was instrumental in the U.S. conquest and development of California. He was also a politician who ran unsuccessfully for the U.S. presidency in 1856 as the first candidate of the newly formed Republican Party.
Britannica.com
View attachment 362752

The very first candidate for the party formed for the specific purpose of ending slavery in the United States.






2. Nathan Bedford Forrest, (born July 13, 1821, near Chapel Hill, Tennessee, U.S.—died October 29, 1877, Memphis, Tennessee), Confederate cavalry commander in the American Civil War (1861–65) who was often described as a “born military genius.” His rule of action, “Get there first with the most men,” became one of the most often quoted statements of the war. Forrest is also one of the most controversial figures from the Civil War era. His command was responsible for the massacre of African American Union troops stationed at Fort Pillow, Tennessee, in April 1864, and he served as the first grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan in the early years of Reconstruction.
Britannica.com
View attachment 362754


On Demcember 24, 1865, Forrest formed the military arm of the Democrat Party, the Invisible Empire of the Ku Klux Klan.

In his honor, Hollywood used his name and family association for the film, Forrest Gump.
Forrest led the last heroic charge at Battle of Shiloh. Charged the Union line alone slashing with his sabre in the middle of a group of Yankees. Someone shouted "Kill the goddamn rebel!" Union soldier stuck his rifle in Forrest side and fired, lifting Forrest up in his saddle. As Forrest rode away he grabbed a blue coat and swung him up on the back of his saddle to cover his retreat, then tossed the invader to the ground when he was through with him.



Are we comparing that to this?

"Between 1882 and 1964, nearly five thousand people died from lynching, the majority African-American. The 1890s witnessed the worst period of lynching in U.S. history. Lynchings, often witnessed by large crowds of white onlookers, were the most extreme form of Southern [Democrat] white control over the African-American population, regularly meted out against African Americans who had been falsely charged with crimes but in fact were achieving a level of political or economic autonomy that whites found unacceptable.

The history of failed attempts to pass federal antilyching legislation goes back to 1894, when a House bill to set up a committee to investigate lynchings failed. In 1922, the House passed a bill to make lynching a Federal crime, but despite President Warren G. Harding’s support, Southern [Democrat] senators filibustered and defeated it. In 1933, [Democrat] President Franklin D. Roosevelt failed to support an antilynching bill proposed by the NAACP, fearing that key Southerners lawmakers would retaliate and interfere with his New Deal agenda. "

Nice little ADDITION of YOURS, by continually ADDING "Democrats" to the copyrighted article....

We can see through you, like plexiglass.... :rolleyes:


Here is how the ACTUAL article states it....


Between 1882 and 1964, nearly five thousand people died from lynching, the majority African-American. The 1890s witnessed the worst period of lynching in U.S. history. Lynchings, often witnessed by large crowds of white onlookers, were the most extreme form of Southern white control over the African-American population, regularly meted out against African Americans who had been falsely charged with crimes but in fact were achieving a level of political or economic autonomy that whites found unacceptable. The history of failed attempts to pass federal antilyching legislation goes back to 1894, when a House bill to set up a committee to investigate lynchings failed. In 1922, the House passed a bill to make lynching a Federal crime, but despite President Warren G. Harding’s support, Southern senators filibustered and defeated it. In 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt failed to support an antilynching bill proposed by the NAACP, fearing that key Southerners lawmakers would retaliate and interfere with his New Deal agenda. In February 1948, President Harry S. Truman asked Congress for federal antilynching legislation. In the following testimony to a House subcommittee, four Southern Congressmen discussed their reasons for opposing what they deemed federal interference in state judicial responsibilities and defend segregation and the “peaceful relations now existing between white man and Negro” in the South. Congressman Charles E. Bennett (Florida) also offered his historical explanation for lynching. None of the bills under consideration by the subcommittee passed.




I corrected the omission, making it more accurate.


I notice, while it put a burr under your saddle, you couldn't deny it was the truth.


Excellent.



BTW....did you know.....
The Democrat Party is now running on full-blown anti-white racism, socialism, infanticide, opposition to free speech, substituting illegal alien voters for the American citizenry, support for rioters, arsonists, murderers, and anarchists, and anti-Semitism… the knuckle-dragging, atavistic pagan party.

See if you recognize the similarity in this Margaret Mead, anthropologist, quote: The natives are superficially agreeable, but they go in for cannibalism, headhunting, infanticide, incest, avoidance and joking relationships, and biting lice in half with their teeth.

One wonders, if she were still alive, what her views of this Democrat Party would be.

Democrats, the anti-America party, anti-police, pro-anarchy, anti-military, anti-history.
 
See if you recognize the similarity in this Margaret Mead, anthropologist, quote: The natives are superficially agreeable, but they go in for cannibalism, headhunting, infanticide, incest, avoidance and joking relationships, and biting lice in half with their teeth.
I do see some similarities to the GOP and Trump:
  • cannibalism - GOP just rejected a Senator they previously elected for 20+ years
  • headhunting - Trump specifically went after Sessions, the man he himself picked for AG
  • infanticide - Trump and the GOP have tried to end people's access to healthcare and welfare
  • incest - Ivanka, nuff said
  • avoidance - Too many COVID-19 tests?
  • joking relationships - How many times has Trump said something that was later claimed to be sarcastic or a joke?
  • biting lice in half with their teeth - We all do that don't we?
 
I seem to recall the first shot of that war was an attack on a US military base. If the rebels had succeeded the US would look very different than it does today. If Yamamoto had succeeded the US would probably look very much as it does today. So which enemy of the US should we honor?
I've heard the "first shot" line many times. Congratulations! You get a prize for being the 1,000th one. The real point is 99.9% of the war was the north attacking the South, in the South, and the South fighting defensively. Get it ?

PS - I live in one of the 11 states of the old Confederacy. It is part of the "US" And I see no reason to think that the US would look different today than it does. In fact, much of the (mountainous) South would look no different, with no slavery (then or now)
 
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Ummmm... the first shot fired was upon a Union merchant ship, the Star of the West, as it tried to deliver supplies to Fort Sumter in Charleston Harbor, South Carolina.
Oh another "first shot" comment. Oh boy. Is anybody aware of the next 99.999999999% of the war ?
 
  • infanticide - Trump and the GOP have tried to end people's access to healthcare and welfare
  • incest - Ivanka, nuff said
  • avoidance - Too many COVID-19 tests?
  • joking relationships - How many times has Trump said something that was later claimed to be sarcastic or a joke?
  • biting lice in half with their teeth - We all do that don't we?
Is this a leftist talking about infanticide ? You guys don't want to do that.
 
Which Date Would You Honor?

A date with Gal Gadot..

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Beautiful lady......on the outside.


Her politics show something very different.

"Black Lives Matter: Gal Gadot, Demi Lovato & more celebs join Blackout"
| PINKVILLA protest for George Floyd"


I won't be taking my children to her films any longer.
I have already cancelled my account with Amazon - contributor to Black Lives Matter. BTW, why isn't everyone in BLM arrested for sedition and/or treason ?
 
The history of failed attempts to pass federal antilyching legislation goes back to 1894, when a House bill to set up a committee to investigate lynchings failed. In 1922, the House passed a bill to make lynching a Federal crime, but despite President Warren G. Harding’s support, Southern senators filibustered and defeated it. In 1933, President Franklin D. Roosevelt failed to support an antilynching bill proposed by the NAACP, fearing that key Southerners lawmakers would retaliate and interfere with his New Deal agenda. In February 1948, President Harry S. Truman asked Congress for federal antilynching legislation. In the following testimony to a House subcommittee, four Southern Congressmen discussed their reasons for opposing what they deemed federal interference in state judicial responsibilities and defend segregation and the “peaceful relations now existing between white man and Negro” in the South. Congressman Charles E. Bennett (Florida) also offered his historical explanation for lynching. None of the bills under consideration by the subcommittee passed.
There has always been a law against MURDER. North and South.
 

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