Where's Global Warming

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Science has many flaws

25 February 2009
It’s wrong to wish on space hardware
Filed under: Greenhouse gases Climate Science— gavin @ 11:19 AM
A number of satellite related issues have come up this weekend: The NSIDC reminded us that satellite sensors are (like all kinds of data) not perfectly reliable and do not last forever. Two satellites collided by accident last week, littering the orbit with dangerous amounts of debris. In San Diego this weekend, I was fortunate enough to attend a meeting with some of the Apollo astronauts and some of the scientists involved in Cassini and the Mars Phoenix missions. And yesterday morning we heard that the Orbiting Carbon Observatory mission launch failed to insert the satellite into orbit, and it is presumably measuring carbon dioxide somewhere at the bottom of the Southern Ocean. Coincidentally, when it came up on the news, I was in a meeting with one of the scientists who had been working on setting up a climate model to assimilate the OCO data in order to pin down the carbon sinks.

All of these events have served to remind me at least, that although the space age is 50 years old, we are a long way from the point where we can take our ability to launch and control off-planet machines for granted. Getting into space was, and remains, a tremendous challenge. This makes the successes we've had all the more incredible, and a testament to the hard work the engineers and scientists do over many years before a launch to give the missions the best chance of success.

 

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The UN Climate Change Numbers Hoax

An example of rampant misrepresentation of IPCC reports is the frequent assertion that ‘hundreds of IPCC scientists’ are known to support the following statement, arguably the most important of the WG I report, namely “Greenhouse gas forcing has very likely caused most of the observed global warming over the last 50 years.”

In total, only 62 scientists reviewed the chapter in which this statement appears, the critical chapter 9, “Understanding and Attributing Climate Change”. Of the comments received from the 62 reviewers of this critical chapter, almost 60% of them were rejected by IPCC editors. And of the 62 expert reviewers of this chapter, 55 had serious vested interest, leaving only seven expert reviewers who appear impartial.

 

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.: U.S. Senate Committee on Environment and Public Works :: Press Room :.

"Climate change is real" is a meaningless phrase used repeatedly by activists to convince the public that a climate catastrophe is looming and humanity is the cause. Neither of these fears is justified. Global climate changes all the time due to natural causes and the human impact still remains impossible to distinguish from this natural "noise." The new Canadian government's commitment to reducing air, land and water pollution is commendable, but allocating funds to "stopping climate change" would be irrational. We need to continue intensive research into the real causes of climate change and help our most vulnerable citizens adapt to whatever nature throws at us next.

Sincerely,

Dr. Ian D. Clark, professor, isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology, Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa

Dr. Tad Murty, former senior research scientist, Dept. of Fisheries and Oceans, former director of Australia's National Tidal Facility and professor of earth sciences, Flinders University, Adelaide; currently adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa

Dr. R. Timothy Patterson, professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences (paleoclimatology), Carleton University, Ottawa

Dr. Fred Michel, director, Institute of Environmental Science and associate professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Carleton University, Ottawa

Dr. Madhav Khandekar, former research scientist, Environment Canada. Member of editorial board of Climate Research and Natural Hazards

Dr. Paul Copper, FRSC, professor emeritus, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University, Sudbury, Ont.

Dr. Ross McKitrick, associate professor, Dept. of Economics, University of Guelph, Ont.

Dr. Tim Ball, former professor of climatology, University of Winnipeg; environmental consultant

Dr. Andreas Prokoph, adjunct professor of earth sciences, University of Ottawa; consultant in statistics and geology

Mr. David Nowell, M.Sc. (Meteorology), fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society, Canadian member and past chairman of the NATO Meteorological Group, Ottawa

Dr. Christopher Essex, professor of applied mathematics and associate director of the Program in Theoretical Physics, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.

* Dr. Gordon E. Swaters, professor of applied mathematics, Dept. of Mathematical Sciences, and member, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Research Group, University of Alberta (* Note: Swaters later recanted his signature on the open letter)

Dr. L. Graham Smith, associate professor, Dept. of Geography, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.

Dr. G. Cornelis van Kooten, professor and Canada Research Chair in environmental studies and climate change, Dept. of Economics, University of Victoria

Dr. Petr Chylek, adjunct professor, Dept. of Physics and Atmospheric Science, Dalhousie University, Halifax

Dr./Cdr. M. R. Morgan, FRMS, climate consultant, former meteorology advisor to the World Meteorological Organization. Previously research scientist in climatology at University of Exeter, U.K.

Dr. Keith D. Hage, climate consultant and professor emeritus of Meteorology, University of Alberta

Dr. David E. Wojick, P.Eng., energy consultant, Star Tannery, Va., and Sioux Lookout, Ont.

Rob Scagel, M.Sc., forest microclimate specialist, principal consultant, Pacific Phytometric Consultants, Surrey, B.C.

Dr. Douglas Leahey, meteorologist and air-quality consultant, Calgary

Paavo Siitam, M.Sc., agronomist, chemist, Cobourg, Ont.

Dr. Chris de Freitas, climate scientist, associate professor, The University of Auckland, N.Z.

Dr. Richard S. Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan professor of meteorology, Dept. of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Dr. Freeman J. Dyson, emeritus professor of physics, Institute for Advanced Studies, Princeton, N.J.

Mr. George Taylor, Dept. of Meteorology, Oregon State University; Oregon State climatologist; past president, American Association of State Climatologists

Dr. Ian Plimer, professor of geology, School of Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Adelaide; emeritus professor of earth sciences, University of Melbourne, Australia

Dr. R.M. Carter, professor, Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Townsville, Australia

Mr. William Kininmonth, Australasian Climate Research, former Head National Climate Centre, Australian Bureau of Meteorology; former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology, Scientific and Technical Review

Dr. Hendrik Tennekes, former director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute

Dr. Gerrit J. van der Lingen, geologist/paleoclimatologist, Climate Change Consultant, Geoscience Research and Investigations, New Zealand

Dr. Patrick J. Michaels, professor of environmental sciences, University of Virginia

Dr. Nils-Axel Morner, emeritus professor of paleogeophysics & geodynamics, Stockholm University, Stockholm, Sweden

Dr. Gary D. Sharp, Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study, Salinas, Calif.

Dr. Roy W. Spencer, principal research scientist, Earth System Science Center, The University of Alabama, Huntsville

Dr. Al Pekarek, associate professor of geology, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Dept., St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, Minn.

Dr. Marcel Leroux, professor emeritus of climatology, University of Lyon, France; former director of Laboratory of Climatology, Risks and Environment, CNRS

Dr. Paul Reiter, professor, Institut Pasteur, Unit of Insects and Infectious Diseases, Paris, France. Expert reviewer, IPCC Working group II, chapter 8 (human health)

Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, physicist and chairman, Scientific Council of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection, Warsaw, Poland

Dr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, reader, Dept. of Geography, University of Hull, U.K.; editor, Energy & Environment

Dr. Hans H.J. Labohm, former advisor to the executive board, Clingendael Institute (The Netherlands Institute of International Relations) and an economist who has focused on climate change

Dr. Lee C. Gerhard, senior scientist emeritus, University of Kansas, past director and state geologist, Kansas Geological Survey

Dr. Asmunn Moene, past head of the Forecasting Centre, Meteorological Institute, Norway

Dr. August H. Auer, past professor of atmospheric science, University of Wyoming; previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService) of New Zealand

Dr. Vincent Gray, expert reviewer for the IPCC and author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of 'Climate Change 2001,' Wellington, N.Z.

Dr. Howard Hayden, emeritus professor of physics, University of Connecticut

Dr Benny Peiser, professor of social anthropology, Faculty of Science, Liverpool John Moores University, U.K.

Dr. Jack Barrett, chemist and spectroscopist, formerly with Imperial College London, U.K.

Dr. William J.R. Alexander, professor emeritus, Dept. of Civil and Biosystems Engineering, University of Pretoria, South Africa. Member, United Nations Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters, 1994-2000

Dr. S. Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences, University of Virginia; former director, U.S. Weather Satellite Service

Dr. Harry N.A. Priem, emeritus professor of planetary geology and isotope geophysics, Utrecht University; former director of the Netherlands Institute for Isotope Geosciences; past president of the Royal Netherlands Geological & Mining Society

Dr. Robert H. Essenhigh, E.G. Bailey professor of energy conversion, Dept. of Mechanical Engineering, The Ohio State University

Dr. Sallie Baliunas, astrophysicist and climate researcher, Boston, Mass.

Douglas Hoyt, senior scientist at Raytheon (retired) and co-author of the book The Role of the Sun in Climate Change; previously with NCAR, NOAA, and the World Radiation Center, Davos, Switzerland

Dipl.-Ing. Peter Dietze, independent energy advisor and scientific climate and carbon modeller, official IPCC reviewer, Bavaria, Germany

Dr. Boris Winterhalter, senior marine researcher (retired), Geological Survey of Finland, former professor in marine geology, University of Helsinki, Finland

Dr. Wibjorn Karlen, emeritus professor, Dept. of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology, Stockholm University, Sweden

Dr. Hugh W. Ellsaesser, physicist/meteorologist, previously with the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Calif.; atmospheric consultant.

Dr. Art Robinson, founder, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, Cave Junction, Ore.

Dr. Arthur Rorsch, emeritus professor of molecular genetics, Leiden University, The Netherlands; past board member, Netherlands organization for applied research (TNO) in environmental, food and public health

Dr. Alister McFarquhar, Downing College, Cambridge, U.K.; international economist

Dr. Richard S. Courtney, climate and atmospheric science consultant, IPCC expert reviewer, U.K.

 

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The kooks are those who call for damaging goverment action based on unsettled science.

 

[Diuretic]

The kooks are those who call for damaging goverment action based on unsettled science.

You over-reached.

Now you will be pilloried for your stupidty and rightly so

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The kooks are those who call for damaging goverment action based on unsettled science.

You over-reached.

Now you will be pilloried for your stupidty and rightly so

The Statement is perfectly correct. The morons, the kooks and the crazies want us to go off uninformed and ignorant and destroy our economies with no real evidence, no working theory and no real solution. Hell they even oppose the science we do have that can scrub CO2 from the air, claiming it will just encourage us to make more CO2. Loons are running the show. Once again, there is zero evidence of a warming trend from 1998 on. No noticeable increases in temperature since that Year. All they have are their made up "adjusted " temperatures that they never explain where the "adjustments" came from or how they are relevant.

 

[Diuretic]

The kooks are those who call for damaging goverment action based on unsettled science.

You over-reached.

Now you will be pilloried for your stupidty and rightly so

The Statement is perfectly correct. The morons, the kooks and the crazies want us to go off uninformed and ignorant and destroy our economies with no real evidence, no working theory and no real solution. Hell they even oppose the science we do have that can scrub CO2 from the air, claiming it will just encourage us to make more CO2. Loons are running the show. Once again, there is zero evidence of a warming trend from 1998 on. No noticeable increases in temperature since that Year. All they have are their made up "adjusted " temperatures that they never explain where the "adjustments" came from or how they are relevant.

 

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The nic is FactFinder.

Only those oblivious to facts would consider it overreaching. There are hundreds if not thousands of more credible articles that demonstrate that the science is unsettled. Certainly no where to the point worthy of making life changing decisions.

That being said. I support alternative energy sources. Just not because of climate change. Being in the middle of a snowstorm and colder than average temperatures I would welcome a bit of warming.

 

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International Climate Science Coalition - SourceWatch

At the 2008 International Conference on Climate Change, ICSC Executive Director Tom Harris gave a speech in which he discussed what he called "information sharing" and "coordinated local activism":[5][6]
[...] We need regular high-impact media coverage of the findings of leading scientists — not just one or two publications, but we need to have hundreds all over the world. We need to have a high degree of information sharing and cooperation between groups, so that when Vincent Gray for example has an article published in New Zealand, we can take the same piece and we can (say) submit it to newspapers all over North America and Europe.
Then we have a nicely well-coordinated response, where letters to the editor and phone calls are made. "Congratulations on publishing that article!" You know, it's interesting because I've had many of my articles opposed so strongly, by environmentalists through phone calls and letters to the editor, that they just simply dry up, they just won't publish us again. So this does have feedback, I mean, these are people that run these newspapers, and they're scared, and impressed, and encouraged, depending on the feedback they get.
We have to have grassroots organizations doing exactly that kind of thing: coordinated local activism.

Sucked right in you blokes. And I suppose you whine abut lobbyists in DC? You know why they're so successful? Because you're easily fooled. They dangle hook baited with your prejudice of the moment and you can't wait to take it.

Who do you think is behind this lot?

 

[Diuretic]

The nic is FactFinder.

Only those oblivious to facts would consider it overreaching. There are hundreds if not thousands of more credible articles that demonstrate that the science is unsettled. Certainly no where to the point worthy of making life changing decisions.

That being said. I support alternative energy sources. Just not because of climate change. Being in the middle of a snowstorm and colder than average temperatures I would welcome a bit of warming.

I don't care what your nick is. If you think it gives you some sort of authority then I assure you that you're sadly mistaken. But if delusion is your thing go ahead.

Your nick could be Bullshit Artist and I'd have the same opinion. Zero.

Now, about the bullshit you post. That's different. That speaks for itself

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The nic is FactFinder.

Only those oblivious to facts would consider it overreaching. There are hundreds if not thousands of more credible articles that demonstrate that the science is unsettled. Certainly no where to the point worthy of making life changing decisions.

That being said. I support alternative energy sources. Just not because of climate change. Being in the middle of a snowstorm and colder than average temperatures I would welcome a bit of warming.

I don't care what your nick is. If you think it gives you some sort of authority then I assure you that you're sadly mistaken. But if delusion is your thing go ahead.

Your nick could be Bullshit Artist and I'd have the same opinion. Zero.

Now, about the bullshit you post. That's different. That speaks for itself

The only BULLSHIT here is coming from you and the loons you worship. You may not worship God and his white Robes but you sure as hell worship Science and its white smock. Of course you have it all wrong, you worship a bunch of guys that can not even support their claims with the very scientific theories they claim nor the scientific methods required of this new religion of yours.

 

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It is those whose only recourse is to attempt character assasination avoiding real debates based on facts whose intentions may be considered bullshit.

The simple fact is>>>THE SCIENCE IS UNSETTLED.

 

[Ravi]

In Seattle we are experiencing our THIRD snowstorm in as many months, of course it probably won't hang on too long like that last two. So ... even I am now asking: Aren't we suppose to be getting warmer? There's another storm heading from the East to, hitting eastern states that they mentioned. Right now I am seeing an inch fall ... right in downtown.

Your extra snowfalls actually fit in nicely with the theory. Global warming theorists believe that precipitation patterns are shifting...hence, you are getting a lot of snow, I am getting not enough rain.

Try harder next time.

 

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"A Scam, With No Basis In Science"

Professor Tipler notes the discreditable role played by Obama's chief science adviser, the left-wing partisan John Holdren:

AGW supporters are also bringing back the Inquisition, where the power of the state is used to silence one's scientific opponents. The case of Bjorn Lomborg is illustrative. Lomborg is a tenured professor of mathematics in Denmark. Shortly after his book, "The Skeptical Environmentalist," was published by Cambridge University Press, Lomborg was charged and convicted (later reversed) of scientific fraud for being critical of the "consensus" view on AGW and other environmental questions. Had the conviction been upheld, Lomborg would have been fired. ...

I find it very disturbing that part of the Danish Inquisition's case against Lomborg was written by John Holdren, Obama's new science advisor. Holdren has recently written that people like Lomborg are "dangerous." I think it is people like Holdren who are dangerous, because they are willing to use state power to silence their scientific opponents.

 

[Old Rocks]

"A Scam, With No Basis In Science"

Professor Tipler notes the discreditable role played by Obama's chief science adviser, the left-wing partisan John Holdren:

AGW supporters are also bringing back the Inquisition, where the power of the state is used to silence one's scientific opponents. The case of Bjorn Lomborg is illustrative. Lomborg is a tenured professor of mathematics in Denmark. Shortly after his book, "The Skeptical Environmentalist," was published by Cambridge University Press, Lomborg was charged and convicted (later reversed) of scientific fraud for being critical of the "consensus" view on AGW and other environmental questions. Had the conviction been upheld, Lomborg would have been fired. ...

I find it very disturbing that part of the Danish Inquisition's case against Lomborg was written by John Holdren, Obama's new science advisor. Holdren has recently written that people like Lomborg are "dangerous." I think it is people like Holdren who are dangerous, because they are willing to use state power to silence their scientific opponents.

Get off of it, idiot. Holden's bona fides are far better than the fools you quote;

President-Elect Obama to Name Harvard Physicist John P. Holdren as Science Adviser
APS Commends Obama’s Selection of Second Physicist to Serve in His Administration, Sending Message That Science Is Valued


John Holdren

Teresa and John Heinz Professor of Environmental Policy
and
Director of the Program on Science, Technology and Public Policy - Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government
WASHINGTON, D.C. — American Physical Society commends President-Elect Obama’s decision to select APS Fellow John P. Holdren, an international expert on energy and climate change, as his Science Adviser and Director of the Office of Science and Technology Policy.

"With President Obama’s selection of John Holdren as his science adviser, the nation has a powerhouse for energy and environment leadership. John will provide strong and effective leadership of the OSTP team dealing with the broad array of highly desirable goals expressed in the Obama/Biden science and technology program.” said APS President Arthur Bienenstock.

Holdren, who served as a top adviser to the Obama campaign, is the Teresa and John Heinz Professor of Environmental Policy and Director of the Program on Science, Technology and Public Policy at the Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government. He is also Professor of Environmental Science and Policy in Harvard’s Department of Earth and Planetary Sciences. From 2005–2008, he served as President-Elect, President and Chair of the Board of the American Association for the Advancement of Science.

December 19, 2008: APS Fellow Harvard Physicist John P. Holdren Named Science Adviser

 

[Old Rocks]

Despite lack of warming, alarmists predictably predict warming worse than predicted

As you may have heard, there has been no net warming of the planet since 2001, and no subsequent year was a warm as 1998 (admittedly a year with a major El Nino). A recent study by Keenlyside et al. (2008) concludes that “global surface temperature may not increase over the next decade” due to natural oscillations in the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans.

As Patrick Michaels of the Cato Institute explained at a recent congressional hearing, the suite of 21 climate models used in the IPCC’s mid-range emissions scenario (A1B) are on the verge of failing to reproduce actual climate data.

During the past 5 to 20 years, the observed trend in the average global temperature has been so low that it is starting to push the lower bounds of the climate models’ range of temperature predictions for that period. If 2009 is as cool as 2008 (with a La Nina brewing in the Pacific Ocean, that is not unlikely), then even the least sensitive of these models will be overestimating the actual amount of warming. And if Keenlyside is correct, and another decade elapses without significant warming, the models will have clearly failed.

11 of the warmest years on record have occurred in the last 13 years. Just keep repeating your stupidity. We love to see who are the really stupid people here.

 

[Old Rocks]

It is those whose only recourse is to attempt character assasination avoiding real debates based on facts whose intentions may be considered bullshit.

The simple fact is>>>THE SCIENCE IS UNSETTLED.

The simple fact is that every single scientific society, every National Academy of Science, and every single major university in the world says otherwise. So who am I to believe, a poster on the net, or the vast majority of scientists in the world? Doesn't really seem to be a difficult choice.

 

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Those who must demonize others have not much rocks in their pants.

The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present – and is gravely to be regarded.
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

[Old Rocks]

The nic is FactFinder.

Only those oblivious to facts would consider it overreaching. There are hundreds if not thousands of more credible articles that demonstrate that the science is unsettled. Certainly no where to the point worthy of making life changing decisions.

That being said. I support alternative energy sources. Just not because of climate change. Being in the middle of a snowstorm and colder than average temperatures I would welcome a bit of warming.

Post them, fellow!

 

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John Holdren

Teresa and John Heinz Professor of Environmental Policy

That rather says it all, hey? Bought out by the Heinz family. Better known as John Kerry's inlaws