Where should the line be drawn on abortion?

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    They carry fetuses.
     
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    fetus,

    term used to describe the unborn offspring in the uterus of vertebrate animals after the embryonic stage (see embryo). In humans, the fetal stage begins seven to eight weeks after fertilization of the egg, when the embryo assumes the basic shape of the newborn and all the organs are present. This stage continues until birth. The fetus is protected by a sac of amniotic fluid that also enables movement to occur. The placenta and umbilical cord are the sources of oxygen and nutrients and the means of waste elimination.

    During the fetal stage, the body grows larger, the proportions of the features are refined, and organ development is completed. During the seventh and eighth weeks, the body grows more erect, the chest area develops, and the face begins to acquire a human look. In the third month, facial features continue to develop, nails form, ossification centers develop in bones, the sex of the unborn can be determined, and the fetus is capable of responding to outside stimulation. During the second trimester (fourth to sixth months), distinctive facial features develop, the fetal heartbeat can be detected, and fetal quickening (movements) can be felt externally. In the third trimester (the seventh to ninth months), the body proportions, except for the somewhat large head, are established, the skin becomes smoother, and the organs develop sufficiently for the newborn to function on its own.

    If the fetus is expelled before 36 weeks of gestation are completed, it often can survive outside the womb, but artificial assistance, such as intravenous feedings and strict maintainance of the ambient temperature, may be needed during the remainder of its normal developmental period. Such births are called premature. Fetuses expelled before that period are not viable and are termed either a miscarriage or an abortion. A dead fetus delivered in the third trimester is termed stillborn.

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    Call it what you will, playing a semantic game does not change the fact that a baby is killed during an abortion. Whatever term you use does not change the fact that you are ending the existence of a unique and growing human. Call it a baby or fetus, a rose is still a rose.
     
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    Yeah, if a fetus wasn't something that is alive and viable, then why is there fetology
    [fētol′əjē]
    Etymology: L, fetus + Gk, logos, science
    the branch of medicine that is concerned with the fetus in utero, including the diagnosis of congenital anomalies, the prevention of teratogenic influences, and the treatment of certain disorders. Also called embryatrics.
     
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    Very clinical. Those damned pesky fetuses. If women laid eggs we could just decide if we wanted breakfast, or a family. Is that too much?
     
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    Problem is: Biology. Solution is Intelligence. Today we have condoms. Today we know what causes pregnancy. Today we have a pro-sex-any-way-you-want-whenever-you-want society that has decided when that inconvenient being enters our schedule we can delete it. We legislated an ugly, reprehensible solution to a societal problem. We have no strength at the top of our intellectual heap....only wimps, wimps who will not stand for what is right.

    Intelligence: Biology mandates the urge to procreate. We know it. The girls, no longer the ungainly twigs, seduce the boys; the boys, no longer repelled by their weakness and now enticed with girl's new attributes, pursue. It is up to us to keep these biological magnets apart until they can couple with the understanding that if they don't prevent pregnancy they will produce a life. Ya know, this is a job for a really intelligent group of people....and as I see it we just don't have enough intelligence to get the job done.

    So, let's just uncork this whole thing. Why, pray tell me, is prostitution illegal? Can't a girl or guy make a buck doing what everyone just takes for granted? Heck, if it's perfectly legal to give it away then abort a human life, what is the problem with prostitution. " I say who, I say when." So, then that girl who is being abused and living in poverty can make a decent living, right? That would fix it...nice clothes, a new car, warts.

    Why are X-rated movies X-rated? Let's go prime time! We practically dish the crap out on public TV. We talk about it over the airwaves all day long.

    Am I mixing up issues? I don't think so. Am I moralizing? Well, do we have any morals? Because if we don't have any how can I be moralizing?
     
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    No doubt excited women run about declaring "I'm having a fetus - which is not human according to the pro-aborts."

    If a position requires one to employ disingenuous language, one can be assured they are on the wrong side of the issue.
     

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