When will they understand?

Will they now?

"Trump Country looks to be hit hardest as China strikes back against new tariffs the U.S. president announced Thursday.

"U.S. agriculture and the president’s rural political base are in China’s sights as it weighs retaliation after Donald Trump slapped tariffs on at least $50 billion in Chinese imports.

"In its initial counterstrike, China announced a 25 percent levy on U.S. pork imports -- a heavy blow to Iowa, the top pork-producing state and a political battleground that swung to Trump in 2016 after going for Democrat Barack Obama in the previous two elections.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling."
Trump Country May Be Hit Hardest by Chinese Tariff Retaliation

Don't worry, be happy, I'll pray for trump supporters, that's always a solution to serous problems. Isn't it?
It may cause inflation and we might not be able to buy cheap shit from China anymore at the Dollar Store, but if it lets people eventually get back their GOOD jobs, would it be worth it? When I was a kid, people didn't automatically aspire to a McMansion in the suburbs. A modest house in a decent neighborhood with good schools was where people set their sights. They remodeled by replacing the sofa slipcovers every ten years or so. We've gone nuts with the consumer thing.
I don't know anything about economies, but what we've had is not so great. A change might be good. Anyway, you'll never convince the Trumpkins that the trade wars are bad news until the price of an AR goes up $200.

IF it brings jobs back? We have turned the corner from a manufacturing base to a service base, so I very much doubt we will create many jobs where technology, i.e. robots have replaced people.

We are, and have been a consumer based economy since the end of WW II. And yet, retail jobs are being eliminated as we speak. Shoppers shop at home on their computers, and UPS / Fed Ex trucks are ubiquitous on our roadways.

Maybe its time to consider new ways, instead of seeking what may have been successful in the past?


And yet in your op, YOU, sound the alarm of a threat to our pig farmers, an industry that was developed, literally, in the Stone Age.


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I sounded the Alarm? I guess so, and like some other people you'll choose to ignore it. China lighted the fire, I reported seeing the flames, and you and others may one day feel the heat , yet.

Denial ends when one touches a hot stove - though some never learn from experience, vicariously or in the ER.
 
Will they now?

"Trump Country looks to be hit hardest as China strikes back against new tariffs the U.S. president announced Thursday.

"U.S. agriculture and the president’s rural political base are in China’s sights as it weighs retaliation after Donald Trump slapped tariffs on at least $50 billion in Chinese imports.

"In its initial counterstrike, China announced a 25 percent levy on U.S. pork imports -- a heavy blow to Iowa, the top pork-producing state and a political battleground that swung to Trump in 2016 after going for Democrat Barack Obama in the previous two elections.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling."
Trump Country May Be Hit Hardest by Chinese Tariff Retaliation

Don't worry, be happy, I'll pray for trump supporters, that's always a solution to serous problems. Isn't it?

Just a year and a half ago you idiots were making Hillary disavow her 20 year old NAFTA endorsement. You're the anti-free trade party. Now you're for free trade because Trump is against it. You're such liars. And you'll switch back after Trump. If Trump said he was pro-choice, you'd attack him for not being pro-life like you are ...

You use on data point and conclude million of others are not free traders? Q. Are you that stupid
A. It seems so.

Maybe if you put your emotional tirades and hate aside, you might one day post something substantive.

You're a hoot. You think the leftists across the board attacking our most basic treaty "on data point?" Seriously?

Clinton fought Democrats with NAFTA, not Republicans. Democrats fight against every trade Treaty other than TPP which was a socialist globalist treaty not a trade treaty.

Trump comes out anti-free trade, so you flip sides to attack him. And post-Trump, you'll flip back
 
Will they now?

"Trump Country looks to be hit hardest as China strikes back against new tariffs the U.S. president announced Thursday.

"U.S. agriculture and the president’s rural political base are in China’s sights as it weighs retaliation after Donald Trump slapped tariffs on at least $50 billion in Chinese imports.

"In its initial counterstrike, China announced a 25 percent levy on U.S. pork imports -- a heavy blow to Iowa, the top pork-producing state and a political battleground that swung to Trump in 2016 after going for Democrat Barack Obama in the previous two elections.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling."
Trump Country May Be Hit Hardest by Chinese Tariff Retaliation

Don't worry, be happy, I'll pray for trump supporters, that's always a solution to serous problems. Isn't it?
It may cause inflation and we might not be able to buy cheap shit from China anymore at the Dollar Store, but if it lets people eventually get back their GOOD jobs, would it be worth it? When I was a kid, people didn't automatically aspire to a McMansion in the suburbs. A modest house in a decent neighborhood with good schools was where people set their sights. They remodeled by replacing the sofa slipcovers every ten years or so. We've gone nuts with the consumer thing.
I don't know anything about economies, but what we've had is not so great. A change might be good. Anyway, you'll never convince the Trumpkins that the trade wars are bad news until the price of an AR goes up $200.

IF it brings jobs back? We have turned the corner from a manufacturing base to a service base, so I very much doubt we will create many jobs where technology, i.e. robots have replaced people.

We are, and have been a consumer based economy since the end of WW II. And yet, retail jobs are being eliminated as we speak. Shoppers shop at home on their computers, and UPS / Fed Ex trucks are ubiquitous on our roadways.

Maybe its time to consider new ways, instead of seeking what may have been successful in the past?


And yet in your op, YOU, sound the alarm of a threat to our pig farmers, an industry that was developed, literally, in the Stone Age.


9edh4v.jpg

I sounded the Alarm? I guess so, and like some other people you'll choose to ignore it. China lighted the fire, I reported seeing the flames, and you and others may one day feel the heat , yet.

Denial ends when one touches a hot stove - though some never learn from experience, vicariously or in the ER.


In your op, you have attacked and ridiculed the idea of basing policy on protection our manufacturing base, as it is of "the past"

while advocating that we should protect the interests of our agricultural and animal husbandry segments of our economy, which are VASTLY more of "the past", than manufacturing.



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Will they now?

"Trump Country looks to be hit hardest as China strikes back against new tariffs the U.S. president announced Thursday.

"U.S. agriculture and the president’s rural political base are in China’s sights as it weighs retaliation after Donald Trump slapped tariffs on at least $50 billion in Chinese imports.

"In its initial counterstrike, China announced a 25 percent levy on U.S. pork imports -- a heavy blow to Iowa, the top pork-producing state and a political battleground that swung to Trump in 2016 after going for Democrat Barack Obama in the previous two elections.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling."
Trump Country May Be Hit Hardest by Chinese Tariff Retaliation

Don't worry, be happy, I'll pray for trump supporters, that's always a solution to serous problems. Isn't it?

Just a year and a half ago you idiots were making Hillary disavow her 20 year old NAFTA endorsement. You're the anti-free trade party. Now you're for free trade because Trump is against it. You're such liars. And you'll switch back after Trump. If Trump said he was pro-choice, you'd attack him for not being pro-life like you are ...

You use on data point and conclude million of others are not free traders? Q. Are you that stupid
A. It seems so.

Maybe if you put your emotional tirades and hate aside, you might one day post something substantive.

You're a hoot. You think the leftists across the board attacking our most basic treaty "on data point?" Seriously?

Clinton fought Democrats with NAFTA, not Republicans. Democrats fight against every trade Treaty other than TPP which was a socialist globalist treaty not a trade treaty.

Trump comes out anti-free trade, so you flip sides to attack him. And post-Trump, you'll flip back

I maybe seem to be a hoot to you, but your opinions are not credible.

Your disability to read without a bias to defend your narrative is the issue. Have someone with a background in reading and comprehending English read your post and my response on the data point you so misunderstand.
 
Will they now?

"Trump Country looks to be hit hardest as China strikes back against new tariffs the U.S. president announced Thursday.

"U.S. agriculture and the president’s rural political base are in China’s sights as it weighs retaliation after Donald Trump slapped tariffs on at least $50 billion in Chinese imports.

"In its initial counterstrike, China announced a 25 percent levy on U.S. pork imports -- a heavy blow to Iowa, the top pork-producing state and a political battleground that swung to Trump in 2016 after going for Democrat Barack Obama in the previous two elections.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling."
Trump Country May Be Hit Hardest by Chinese Tariff Retaliation

Don't worry, be happy, I'll pray for trump supporters, that's always a solution to serous problems. Isn't it?

Just a year and a half ago you idiots were making Hillary disavow her 20 year old NAFTA endorsement. You're the anti-free trade party. Now you're for free trade because Trump is against it. You're such liars. And you'll switch back after Trump. If Trump said he was pro-choice, you'd attack him for not being pro-life like you are ...

You use on data point and conclude million of others are not free traders? Q. Are you that stupid
A. It seems so.

Maybe if you put your emotional tirades and hate aside, you might one day post something substantive.

You're a hoot. You think the leftists across the board attacking our most basic treaty "on data point?" Seriously?

Clinton fought Democrats with NAFTA, not Republicans. Democrats fight against every trade Treaty other than TPP which was a socialist globalist treaty not a trade treaty.

Trump comes out anti-free trade, so you flip sides to attack him. And post-Trump, you'll flip back

I maybe seem to be a hoot to you, but your opinions are not credible.

Your disability to read without a bias to defend your narrative is the issue. Have someone with a background in reading and comprehending English read your post and my response on the data point you so misunderstand.



YOur attempt to dismiss the valid point the other poster made is rejected.


Deal with them, or they will be the last word, the end of your thread, such as it is.
 
Will they now?

"Trump Country looks to be hit hardest as China strikes back against new tariffs the U.S. president announced Thursday.

"U.S. agriculture and the president’s rural political base are in China’s sights as it weighs retaliation after Donald Trump slapped tariffs on at least $50 billion in Chinese imports.

"In its initial counterstrike, China announced a 25 percent levy on U.S. pork imports -- a heavy blow to Iowa, the top pork-producing state and a political battleground that swung to Trump in 2016 after going for Democrat Barack Obama in the previous two elections.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling."
Trump Country May Be Hit Hardest by Chinese Tariff Retaliation

Don't worry, be happy, I'll pray for trump supporters, that's always a solution to serous problems. Isn't it?

Just a year and a half ago you idiots were making Hillary disavow her 20 year old NAFTA endorsement. You're the anti-free trade party. Now you're for free trade because Trump is against it. You're such liars. And you'll switch back after Trump. If Trump said he was pro-choice, you'd attack him for not being pro-life like you are ...

You use on data point and conclude million of others are not free traders? Q. Are you that stupid
A. It seems so.

Maybe if you put your emotional tirades and hate aside, you might one day post something substantive.

You're a hoot. You think the leftists across the board attacking our most basic treaty "on data point?" Seriously?

Clinton fought Democrats with NAFTA, not Republicans. Democrats fight against every trade Treaty other than TPP which was a socialist globalist treaty not a trade treaty.

Trump comes out anti-free trade, so you flip sides to attack him. And post-Trump, you'll flip back

I maybe seem to be a hoot to you, but your opinions are not credible.

Your disability to read without a bias to defend your narrative is the issue. Have someone with a background in reading and comprehending English read your post and my response on the data point you so misunderstand.

It's Democrats who have through my life loved the Russians, it's Democrats who Gerrymandered, Democrats have started most of our wars and supported them all, it's Democrats who have fought trade treaties. Trump derangement syndrome made you switch sides and you think people are stupid. But we aren't, you are
 
Will they now?

"Trump Country looks to be hit hardest as China strikes back against new tariffs the U.S. president announced Thursday.

"U.S. agriculture and the president’s rural political base are in China’s sights as it weighs retaliation after Donald Trump slapped tariffs on at least $50 billion in Chinese imports.

"In its initial counterstrike, China announced a 25 percent levy on U.S. pork imports -- a heavy blow to Iowa, the top pork-producing state and a political battleground that swung to Trump in 2016 after going for Democrat Barack Obama in the previous two elections.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling."
Trump Country May Be Hit Hardest by Chinese Tariff Retaliation

Don't worry, be happy, I'll pray for trump supporters, that's always a solution to serous problems. Isn't it?

Just a year and a half ago you idiots were making Hillary disavow her 20 year old NAFTA endorsement. You're the anti-free trade party. Now you're for free trade because Trump is against it. You're such liars. And you'll switch back after Trump. If Trump said he was pro-choice, you'd attack him for not being pro-life like you are ...

You use on data point and conclude million of others are not free traders? Q. Are you that stupid
A. It seems so.

Maybe if you put your emotional tirades and hate aside, you might one day post something substantive.

You're a hoot. You think the leftists across the board attacking our most basic treaty "on data point?" Seriously?

Clinton fought Democrats with NAFTA, not Republicans. Democrats fight against every trade Treaty other than TPP which was a socialist globalist treaty not a trade treaty.

Trump comes out anti-free trade, so you flip sides to attack him. And post-Trump, you'll flip back

I maybe seem to be a hoot to you, but your opinions are not credible.

Your disability to read without a bias to defend your narrative is the issue. Have someone with a background in reading and comprehending English read your post and my response on the data point you so misunderstand.



YOur attempt to dismiss the valid point the other poster made is rejected.


Deal with them, or they will be the last word, the end of your thread, such as it is.

Democrats are such terrible liars. Like we don't remember they are the ones who fight every trade treaty
 
Will they now?

"Trump Country looks to be hit hardest as China strikes back against new tariffs the U.S. president announced Thursday.

"U.S. agriculture and the president’s rural political base are in China’s sights as it weighs retaliation after Donald Trump slapped tariffs on at least $50 billion in Chinese imports.

"In its initial counterstrike, China announced a 25 percent levy on U.S. pork imports -- a heavy blow to Iowa, the top pork-producing state and a political battleground that swung to Trump in 2016 after going for Democrat Barack Obama in the previous two elections.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling."
Trump Country May Be Hit Hardest by Chinese Tariff Retaliation

Don't worry, be happy, I'll pray for trump supporters, that's always a solution to serous problems. Isn't it?

Just a year and a half ago you idiots were making Hillary disavow her 20 year old NAFTA endorsement. You're the anti-free trade party. Now you're for free trade because Trump is against it. You're such liars. And you'll switch back after Trump. If Trump said he was pro-choice, you'd attack him for not being pro-life like you are ...

You use on data point and conclude million of others are not free traders? Q. Are you that stupid
A. It seems so.

Maybe if you put your emotional tirades and hate aside, you might one day post something substantive.

You're a hoot. You think the leftists across the board attacking our most basic treaty "on data point?" Seriously?

Clinton fought Democrats with NAFTA, not Republicans. Democrats fight against every trade Treaty other than TPP which was a socialist globalist treaty not a trade treaty.

Trump comes out anti-free trade, so you flip sides to attack him. And post-Trump, you'll flip back

I maybe seem to be a hoot to you, but your opinions are not credible.

Your disability to read without a bias to defend your narrative is the issue. Have someone with a background in reading and comprehending English read your post and my response on the data point you so misunderstand.

It's Democrats who have through my life loved the Russians, it's Democrats who Gerrymandered, Democrats have started most of our wars and supported them all, it's Democrats who have fought trade treaties. Trump derangement syndrome made you switch sides and you think people are stupid. But we aren't, you are

I'm more an equal disliker (-: I realize you'll disagree, but imo both W and Obama started out trying to govern in a civil respectful way. Both fell short.
 
Will they now?

"Trump Country looks to be hit hardest as China strikes back against new tariffs the U.S. president announced Thursday.

"U.S. agriculture and the president’s rural political base are in China’s sights as it weighs retaliation after Donald Trump slapped tariffs on at least $50 billion in Chinese imports.

"In its initial counterstrike, China announced a 25 percent levy on U.S. pork imports -- a heavy blow to Iowa, the top pork-producing state and a political battleground that swung to Trump in 2016 after going for Democrat Barack Obama in the previous two elections.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling."
Trump Country May Be Hit Hardest by Chinese Tariff Retaliation

Don't worry, be happy, I'll pray for trump supporters, that's always a solution to serous problems. Isn't it?
Wry Catcher
At least if the Pork market crashes,
this will make the Vegans, Muslims and Pigs happy!

Trump can count on their votes!
 
Just a year and a half ago you idiots were making Hillary disavow her 20 year old NAFTA endorsement. You're the anti-free trade party. Now you're for free trade because Trump is against it. You're such liars. And you'll switch back after Trump. If Trump said he was pro-choice, you'd attack him for not being pro-life like you are ...

You use on data point and conclude million of others are not free traders? Q. Are you that stupid
A. It seems so.

Maybe if you put your emotional tirades and hate aside, you might one day post something substantive.

You're a hoot. You think the leftists across the board attacking our most basic treaty "on data point?" Seriously?

Clinton fought Democrats with NAFTA, not Republicans. Democrats fight against every trade Treaty other than TPP which was a socialist globalist treaty not a trade treaty.

Trump comes out anti-free trade, so you flip sides to attack him. And post-Trump, you'll flip back

I maybe seem to be a hoot to you, but your opinions are not credible.

Your disability to read without a bias to defend your narrative is the issue. Have someone with a background in reading and comprehending English read your post and my response on the data point you so misunderstand.

It's Democrats who have through my life loved the Russians, it's Democrats who Gerrymandered, Democrats have started most of our wars and supported them all, it's Democrats who have fought trade treaties. Trump derangement syndrome made you switch sides and you think people are stupid. But we aren't, you are

I'm more an equal disliker (-: I realize you'll disagree, but imo both W and Obama started out trying to govern in a civil respectful way. Both fell short.

I sort of agree, actually. Clearly W offered the left all kinds of goodies to Democrats to like him. It just pissed them off. It's not like he was a fiscal conservative anyway.

Obama did with tone, but he offered fiscal conservatives nothing ever in his Presidency. He politely said come and give me what I want and we can be friends
 
You know, we import about twice as much from China as we export to them.

If there is a trade war, expect everything that is made in China to go up significantly.

That means damn near everything you buy at Wal Mart.
 
You know, we import about twice as much from China as we export to them.

If there is a trade war, expect everything that is made in China to go up significantly.

That means damn near everything you buy at Wal Mart.

True. They have a lot more to lose than we do, at least on that part of the equation.

Wal Mart is a great American company! They provide job opportunities for people no one else will hire
 
Will they now?

"Trump Country looks to be hit hardest as China strikes back against new tariffs the U.S. president announced Thursday.

"U.S. agriculture and the president’s rural political base are in China’s sights as it weighs retaliation after Donald Trump slapped tariffs on at least $50 billion in Chinese imports.

"In its initial counterstrike, China announced a 25 percent levy on U.S. pork imports -- a heavy blow to Iowa, the top pork-producing state and a political battleground that swung to Trump in 2016 after going for Democrat Barack Obama in the previous two elections.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling."
Trump Country May Be Hit Hardest by Chinese Tariff Retaliation

Don't worry, be happy, I'll pray for trump supporters, that's always a solution to serous problems. Isn't it?
It may cause inflation and we might not be able to buy cheap shit from China anymore at the Dollar Store, but if it lets people eventually get back their GOOD jobs, would it be worth it? When I was a kid, people didn't automatically aspire to a McMansion in the suburbs. A modest house in a decent neighborhood with good schools was where people set their sights. They remodeled by replacing the sofa slipcovers every ten years or so. We've gone nuts with the consumer thing.
I don't know anything about economies, but what we've had is not so great. A change might be good. Anyway, you'll never convince the Trumpkins that the trade wars are bad news until the price of an AR goes up $200.

IF it brings jobs back? We have turned the corner from a manufacturing base to a service base, so I very much doubt we will create many jobs where technology, i.e. robots have replaced people.

We are, and have been a consumer based economy since the end of WW II. And yet, retail jobs are being eliminated as we speak. Shoppers shop at home on their computers, and UPS / Fed Ex trucks are ubiquitous on our roadways.

Maybe its time to consider new ways, instead of seeking what may have been successful in the past?


And yet in your op, YOU, sound the alarm of a threat to our pig farmers, an industry that was developed, literally, in the Stone Age.


9edh4v.jpg

I sounded the Alarm? I guess so, and like some other people you'll choose to ignore it. China lighted the fire, I reported seeing the flames, and you and others may one day feel the heat , yet.

Denial ends when one touches a hot stove - though some never learn from experience, vicariously or in the ER.


In your op, you have attacked and ridiculed the idea of basing policy on protection our manufacturing base, as it is of "the past"

while advocating that we should protect the interests of our agricultural and animal husbandry segments of our economy, which are VASTLY more of "the past", than manufacturing.



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You're wrong. We need to protect our intellectual property, not manufacturing. More and more manufacturing is becoming less labor intensive as more robots and computers take over what were once jobs done by human hands.

Instead of picking a fight with China, we need to keep the diplomatic lines open. China is pragmatic, and looks to the future. Trump can't see beyond today, he is impulsive and intractable, he does not listen to others, 'cept maybe Putin, and can't get alone with anyone who does not kiss his fat ass.
 
You know, we import about twice as much from China as we export to them.

If there is a trade war, expect everything that is made in China to go up significantly.

That means damn near everything you buy at Wal Mart.

True. They have a lot more to lose than we do, at least on that part of the equation.

Wal Mart is a great American company! They provide job opportunities for people no one else will hire

? China trades in other markets, bozo. The American consumer will lose in a trade war.
 
Will they now?

"Trump Country looks to be hit hardest as China strikes back against new tariffs the U.S. president announced Thursday.

"U.S. agriculture and the president’s rural political base are in China’s sights as it weighs retaliation after Donald Trump slapped tariffs on at least $50 billion in Chinese imports.

"In its initial counterstrike, China announced a 25 percent levy on U.S. pork imports -- a heavy blow to Iowa, the top pork-producing state and a political battleground that swung to Trump in 2016 after going for Democrat Barack Obama in the previous two elections.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling."
Trump Country May Be Hit Hardest by Chinese Tariff Retaliation

Don't worry, be happy, I'll pray for trump supporters, that's always a solution to serous problems. Isn't it?
Wry Catcher
At least if the Pork market crashes,
this will make the Vegans, Muslims and Pigs happy!

Trump can count on their votes!

Your Easter Ham will cost more, the shoes you wear will cost more and the soy bean farmers will lose a huge market in China. Trump's ignorance and arrogance will harm every American.
 
You know, we import about twice as much from China as we export to them.

If there is a trade war, expect everything that is made in China to go up significantly.

That means damn near everything you buy at Wal Mart.

True. They have a lot more to lose than we do, at least on that part of the equation.

Wal Mart is a great American company! They provide job opportunities for people no one else will hire

? China trades in other markets, bozo. The American consumer will lose in a trade war.

Let me help you since you are not wearing your spectacles.

And you lecturing me on free trade is a classic since I'm always for it, including now, and your support of free trade is a recent and temporary phenomenon driven by a severe case of Trump Derangement Syndrome
 
Wry's right to the extent that China simply produces cheap shit cheaper than other places. It's workers work cheaper. It's Healthcare is cheaper. At some point someone else will be cheaper. Taiwan, Indonesia, Korea ..... yes China dumps steel and did dump solar, maybe it still does. But there are item by item reasons that have little to do with ..... they produce cheap shit cheaper.

And, Wry's right that Trump does not address intellectual property, which should be the number one issue. As, we stopped buying their steel already.
 
Wry's right to the extent that China simply produces cheap shit cheaper than other places. It's workers work cheaper. It's Healthcare is cheaper. At some point someone else will be cheaper. Taiwan, Indonesia, Korea ..... yes China dumps steel and did dump solar, maybe it still does. But there are item by item reasons that have little to do with ..... they produce cheap shit cheaper.

And, Wry's right that Trump does not address intellectual property, which should be the number one issue. As, we stopped buying their steel already.

My ham doesn't come from china though. It's not gonna be good for Mississippi Ag with a trade war though.
 
Will they now?

"Trump Country looks to be hit hardest as China strikes back against new tariffs the U.S. president announced Thursday.

"U.S. agriculture and the president’s rural political base are in China’s sights as it weighs retaliation after Donald Trump slapped tariffs on at least $50 billion in Chinese imports.

"In its initial counterstrike, China announced a 25 percent levy on U.S. pork imports -- a heavy blow to Iowa, the top pork-producing state and a political battleground that swung to Trump in 2016 after going for Democrat Barack Obama in the previous two elections.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling."
Trump Country May Be Hit Hardest by Chinese Tariff Retaliation

Don't worry, be happy, I'll pray for trump supporters, that's always a solution to serous problems. Isn't it?


Note how the amount of Chinese imports is given an exact number, but the American exports, at risk is not.


That's to try to hide the TRuth that there are vastly more Chinese goods coming to the US, than US goods going to China.


China CANNOT win a trade war with US, as the status quo is so bad for US than just about anything is an improvement.


while the opposite is true for China.

And you would be wrong. The US has outsourced all clothing manufacturing and other consumer goods. China doesn’t need American imports as much as the US needs their goods. You’ll see.

You just made his point....dumbass.
 
Will they now?

"Trump Country looks to be hit hardest as China strikes back against new tariffs the U.S. president announced Thursday.

"U.S. agriculture and the president’s rural political base are in China’s sights as it weighs retaliation after Donald Trump slapped tariffs on at least $50 billion in Chinese imports.

"In its initial counterstrike, China announced a 25 percent levy on U.S. pork imports -- a heavy blow to Iowa, the top pork-producing state and a political battleground that swung to Trump in 2016 after going for Democrat Barack Obama in the previous two elections.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling.

"But the president risks broader damage to the economy and to his political standing if the tit-for-tat with China escalates into a trade war, an outcome investors worried was growing more likely, sending stocks tumbling."
Trump Country May Be Hit Hardest by Chinese Tariff Retaliation

Don't worry, be happy, I'll pray for trump supporters, that's always a solution to serous problems. Isn't it?
It may cause inflation and we might not be able to buy cheap shit from China anymore at the Dollar Store, but if it lets people eventually get back their GOOD jobs, would it be worth it? When I was a kid, people didn't automatically aspire to a McMansion in the suburbs. A modest house in a decent neighborhood with good schools was where people set their sights. They remodeled by replacing the sofa slipcovers every ten years or so. We've gone nuts with the consumer thing.
I don't know anything about economies, but what we've had is not so great. A change might be good. Anyway, you'll never convince the Trumpkins that the trade wars are bad news until the price of an AR goes up $200.

IF it brings jobs back? We have turned the corner from a manufacturing base to a service base, so I very much doubt we will create many jobs where technology, i.e. robots have replaced people.

We are, and have been a consumer based economy since the end of WW II. And yet, retail jobs are being eliminated as we speak. Shoppers shop at home on their computers, and UPS / Fed Ex trucks are ubiquitous on our roadways.

Maybe its time to consider new ways, instead of seeking what may have been successful in the past?
There are a lot of people in Mexico, Vietnam, China, India that are making our stuff and earning $10 less per hour. It's not all automated. I can't blame a business for taking advantage of cheap labor, but I know better than to think every overseas factory is run solely by robots. If they were, the companies wouldn't have moved to begin with.
I agree we don't need to be looking backward, but I'm not going to piss on the idea just because a Republican said it.
 

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