When we talk about Education, then, including, we mean learning to Work.

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    That sounds like you live in a Liberalville!
     
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    Not sure about the politics of it. It was in suburban Houston.
     
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    Sorry, sir ..
    - Can you fix the Water tap?
    - Can you replace the gas holder with the gas stove?
    - Can you sharpen an ax, chain saw or just an ordinary knife?
    - Can you calculate the cross-section of an electrical wire that will not lead to a fire if your house is heated by electricity?

    Finally...
    Can you distinguish between "dry" wood and "wet" wood?

    America was created by emigrants from Europe, so, historically, you should know this.

    I will continue a little ...
    There is such an old American tradition:
    Old grandmothers collect shreds and sew from them "American blanket."
    Question:
    - Can you sew such a blanket?
     
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    Not sure what you're driving at.
     
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    Wow ..
    Any Russian, or rather, Soviet, can do it.
    It's strange for me to hear that the Americans do not know how.
    Besides...
    When I talk about the "American blanket," then I can give you links to the American survival forum ..
    There is an "American grandmother" who will tell you how to do it. But she is very nervous, since this American Lady is more than 80 years of age.
     
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    Yes to all of them and I never learned a damn one of them in school. Neither did most people of my age and I am a retired teacher. You are confused about the purpose of education. No one does those things anymore because they are not required.
     
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    First of all, welcome to the forum. I appreciate that you share your views with us.

    In answer to your question, vocational classes are available in some school districts, but usually on a limited basis. The main thrust of our education system is clearly readying students for advanced academic achievements. We have let the liberal agenda drive how we teach our youth.

    A major rebellion against this is home schooling. Taking one's children out of the classroom and into a home environment where individual training is accomplished. Sadly, I don't think this serves vocational careers.

    More and more states are increasing vocational training in their community colleges - first two years leading to an Associate Degree. There are also many private institutes that teach technical and other specialties.

    One other change is the growth of charter schools - instituted outside the standard public school system.

    If you want some interesting information, I suggest you check out education in Wikipedia - which is available in a lot of different languages.

    Again, welcome and thanks for your questions.
     
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    I think you are referring to what we call a quilt.
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    There was, at one time, a common social event where women from a small community would get together for a "quilting bee." They would all work together to create these items of bedding for other members of the group. Some were made to sell in local markets for fairs.
     
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    Ok.
     
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    They are no longer "required" because so-called educators today are no longer able to teach them.

    When I attended high school in California in the 50s, we had vocational education. I majored in vocational agriculture and learned; carpentry, electricity, plumbing, welding, metallurgy, mechanics, and animal husbandry, just to name a few. I also took a class in science, chemistry, and anatomy.

    Was it advantageous in my career? Yes and no. I started out in the army as a mechanic on heavy construction equipment. But, as usual, "the needs of the army," came to the fore when it was learned I could type and, over 23 years, my many attempts to get out from behind a desk were thwarted by personnel officers.

    I did find it quite handy in private life as I seldom had to hire someone else to hand a wide range of tasks around the home and with my many different vehicles.

    I would love to see a major push to return vocational training to the school system.
     

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