You know you are just making up shit at this stage.... Credibility used to be a thing some people wanted to have.
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When the house is crooked - check the foundation
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You know you are just making up shit at this stage.... Credibility used to be a thing some people wanted to have.
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The Trump Foundation is under investigation against.
"Hillary" of course will be the war cry of deflection.
"Hillary" of course will be the war cry of deflection.
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Quit lying, folks.
The OP is the very weak allegation (not a fact) made against the Campaign.
Sure, all you have to do is to look at their tax records.
Can you find them on your own, or you need me to do it for you?
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Let's see... These figures are from an official copy of the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton Foundation for the tax year 2014. The copy of the tax return is from the National Center for Charitable Statistics web site. You can obtain the latest tax return on any charitable organization there.
The Clinton Foundation:
Number of Employees (line 5) 486
Total revenue (line 12) $177,804,612.00 (this dried up as soon as the Clinton’s were no longer able to do favors for the “anonymous” donors)
Total grants to charity (line 13) $5,160,385.00 (this is less than 3%)
Total expenses of $91,281,145.00
Expenses include: Salaries (line 15) $34,838,106.00
Fund raising fees (line 16a) $850,803.00
Other expenses (line 17) $50,431,851.00 (huh?)
Travel $8,000,000.00
Meetings $12,000,000.00
Net assets/fund balances (line 22) $332,471,349.00
So it required 486 people, who were paid $34.8 million, plus $91.3 million in fees and expenses, to give away $5.1 million!
And they call this a charity. Charity my ass, it's a slush fund.
The Clinton Foundation:
Number of Employees (line 5) 486
Total revenue (line 12) $177,804,612.00 (this dried up as soon as the Clinton’s were no longer able to do favors for the “anonymous” donors)
Total grants to charity (line 13) $5,160,385.00 (this is less than 3%)
Total expenses of $91,281,145.00
Expenses include: Salaries (line 15) $34,838,106.00
Fund raising fees (line 16a) $850,803.00
Other expenses (line 17) $50,431,851.00 (huh?)
Travel $8,000,000.00
Meetings $12,000,000.00
Net assets/fund balances (line 22) $332,471,349.00
So it required 486 people, who were paid $34.8 million, plus $91.3 million in fees and expenses, to give away $5.1 million!
And they call this a charity. Charity my ass, it's a slush fund.
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And Americano proves why the case will go nowhere.
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Nowhere...
As we seen from the testimony of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray, thigs are going to get somewhere, very soon.
To get a clear(er) picture, here are the timeline and few details.
Crazy Hillary has her own problems coming down the road and she can't protect Rod any longer.
From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation. A Grand Jury had been impaneled. Governments from around the world had donated to the "Charity". Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those "Donations" to the Clinton Foundation were declared. You would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.
Guess who took over this investigation in 2002? James Comey.
Who was transferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS? Lois Lerner.
Who ran the Tax Division inside the DOJ from 2001 to 2005? None other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein.
Who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame? Robert Mueller.
What do all four casting characters have in common? They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.
Let's fast forward to 2009. James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go to Lockheed Martin. Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, with her own personal email server. The Uranium One "issue" comes to the attention of the Hillary. She decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no one other than, the Russians.You would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, the American people got absolutely nothing out of it. However, prior to the sales approval, no one other than Arkansas Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.
At the same time, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme. Guess who was the FBI Director at this time? Robert Mueller.
Who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland. Rod Rosenstein.
So what happened to the informant from inside the operation? The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it. How does 20% of the strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise? Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?
It's not that hard... ~145 million dollars in "donations" made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.
Who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division? None other than, Lois Lerner.
Fast forward to 2015. Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 "investigations" the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server. He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her "public service" as Secretary of State which was required by law. He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email.
Guess who became FBI Director in 2013? Guess who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer. No one other than James Comey. Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State.
Suddenly he is the FBI Director in charge of the "Clinton Email Investigation" after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner matter at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her. Nope, couldn’t find any crimes there.
Can you guess what happened next? In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy. They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury. Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates Hillary from any wrongdoing.
Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General, Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.
FISA Abuse, political espionage, spies inside campaign, leaks, pick a crime, any crime, chances are this group and a few others did it. All the same players.
All compromised and conflicted. All connected in one way or another to the Clinton’s.
As we seen from the testimony of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray, thigs are going to get somewhere, very soon.
To get a clear(er) picture, here are the timeline and few details.
Crazy Hillary has her own problems coming down the road and she can't protect Rod any longer.
From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation. A Grand Jury had been impaneled. Governments from around the world had donated to the "Charity". Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those "Donations" to the Clinton Foundation were declared. You would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.
Guess who took over this investigation in 2002? James Comey.
Who was transferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS? Lois Lerner.
Who ran the Tax Division inside the DOJ from 2001 to 2005? None other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein.
Who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame? Robert Mueller.
What do all four casting characters have in common? They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.
Let's fast forward to 2009. James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go to Lockheed Martin. Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, with her own personal email server. The Uranium One "issue" comes to the attention of the Hillary. She decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no one other than, the Russians.You would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, the American people got absolutely nothing out of it. However, prior to the sales approval, no one other than Arkansas Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.
At the same time, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme. Guess who was the FBI Director at this time? Robert Mueller.
Who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland. Rod Rosenstein.
So what happened to the informant from inside the operation? The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it. How does 20% of the strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise? Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?
It's not that hard... ~145 million dollars in "donations" made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.
Who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division? None other than, Lois Lerner.
Fast forward to 2015. Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 "investigations" the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server. He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her "public service" as Secretary of State which was required by law. He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email.
Guess who became FBI Director in 2013? Guess who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer. No one other than James Comey. Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State.
Suddenly he is the FBI Director in charge of the "Clinton Email Investigation" after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner matter at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her. Nope, couldn’t find any crimes there.
Can you guess what happened next? In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy. They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury. Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates Hillary from any wrongdoing.
Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General, Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.
FISA Abuse, political espionage, spies inside campaign, leaks, pick a crime, any crime, chances are this group and a few others did it. All the same players.
All compromised and conflicted. All connected in one way or another to the Clinton’s.
A private foundation which I believe is how the Clinton Foundation is set up requires a minimum of 5% payout per year. I'm not a tax expert but I think that is correct. So if your 2.9% payout is right they are not even complying with the tax code.
His numbers aren’t right. That’s an old lie you fools keep repeating. Close to 90% of funds raised are used in programming.
The Clinton Foundation doesn’t “pay out” funds. They are not a “pass through” charity. They run their own programs, using their own people. This ensures the drugs and other aid aren’t diverted and sold as so often happens in Third World Countries.
Close to 90% of funds raised are spend on Foundation programs. Their administration costs are very low compared to other large charities, but then the Clintons take no salaries.
They have a 5 star Charity Watch rating precisely because their Foundation ensures the funds raised reached the people they’re meant to assist.
Apparently the FBI is doing another “pay for play” Investigation. This is 3rd, or 4th such Investigation. I expect the same outcome as the last three.
Please don’t soil yourselves. This is just another Trumpian diversion.
You know all the BS phony scandals that our justice system has no interest in because they're ridiculous propaganda...Nowhere...
As we seen from the testimony of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Christopher Wray, thigs are going to get somewhere, very soon.
To get a clear(er) picture, here are the timeline and few details.
Crazy Hillary has her own problems coming down the road and she can't protect Rod any longer.
From 2001 to 2005 there was an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation. A Grand Jury had been impaneled. Governments from around the world had donated to the "Charity". Yet, from 2001 to 2003 none of those "Donations" to the Clinton Foundation were declared. You would think that an honest investigator would be able to figure this out.
Guess who took over this investigation in 2002? James Comey.
Who was transferred in to the Internal Revenue Service to run the Tax Exemption Branch of the IRS? Lois Lerner.
Who ran the Tax Division inside the DOJ from 2001 to 2005? None other than the Assistant Attorney General of the United States, Rod Rosenstein.
Who was the Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation during this time frame? Robert Mueller.
What do all four casting characters have in common? They all were briefed and/or were front line investigators into the Clinton Foundation Investigation.
Let's fast forward to 2009. James Comey leaves the Justice Department to go to Lockheed Martin. Hillary Clinton is running the State Department, with her own personal email server. The Uranium One "issue" comes to the attention of the Hillary. She decides to support the decision and approve the sale of 20% of US Uranium to no one other than, the Russians.You would think that this is a fairly straight up deal, except it wasn’t, the American people got absolutely nothing out of it. However, prior to the sales approval, no one other than Arkansas Bill Clinton goes to Moscow, gets paid 500K for a one hour speech then meets with Vladimir Putin at his home for a few hours.
At the same time, the FBI had a mole inside the money laundering and bribery scheme. Guess who was the FBI Director at this time? Robert Mueller.
Who was handling that case within the Justice Department out of the US Attorney’s Office in Maryland. Rod Rosenstein.
So what happened to the informant from inside the operation? The Department of Justice placed a GAG order on him and threatened to lock him up if he spoke out about it. How does 20% of the strategic asset of the United States of America end up in Russian hands when the FBI has an informant, a mole providing inside information to the FBI on the criminal enterprise? Guess what happened soon after the sale was approved?
It's not that hard... ~145 million dollars in "donations" made their way into the Clinton Foundation from entities directly connected to the Uranium One deal.
Who was still at the Internal Revenue Service working the Charitable Division? None other than, Lois Lerner.
Fast forward to 2015. Due to a series of tragic events in Benghazi and after the 9 "investigations" the House, Senate and at State Department, Trey Gowdy who was running the 10th investigation as Chairman of the Select Committee on Benghazi discovers that Hillary ran the State Department on an unclassified, unauthorized, outlaw personal email server. He also discovered that none of those emails had been turned over when she departed her "public service" as Secretary of State which was required by law. He also discovered that there was Top Secret information contained within her personally archived email.
Guess who became FBI Director in 2013? Guess who secured 17 no bid contracts for his employer with the State Department and was rewarded with a six million dollar thank you present when he departed his employer. No one other than James Comey. Amazing how all those no-bids just went right through at State.
Suddenly he is the FBI Director in charge of the "Clinton Email Investigation" after of course his FBI Investigates the Lois Lerner matter at the Internal Revenue Service and exonerates her. Nope, couldn’t find any crimes there.
Can you guess what happened next? In April 2016, James Comey drafts an exoneration letter of Hillary Clinton, meanwhile the DOJ is handing out immunity deals like candy. They didn’t even convene a Grand Jury. Like a lightning bolt of statistical impossibility, like a miracle from God himself, James steps out into the cameras of an awaiting press conference on July the 8th of 2016, and exonerates Hillary from any wrongdoing.
Rosenstein becomes Asst. Attorney General, Comey gets fired based upon a letter by Rosenstein, Comey leaks government information to the press, Mueller is assigned to the Russian Investigation sham by Rosenstein to provide cover for decades of malfeasance within the FBI and DOJ and the story continues.
FISA Abuse, political espionage, spies inside campaign, leaks, pick a crime, any crime, chances are this group and a few others did it. All the same players.
All compromised and conflicted. All connected in one way or another to the Clinton’s.
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Ridgerunner
'Ole Wise One'
Between 1995 and 2008, Farouki family members made at least 19 donations to Clinton-associated campaigns.
Since 2005, Farouki has participated in The Clinton Global Initiative, and during his presidency, Bill Clinton appointed him to the prestigious advisory board for Washington’s Kennedy Center.
Remember the $600 Defense Department hammer controversy from the 1980s? And liberals screaming over Halliburton during the Bush Presidency? SIGIR found Anham billed American taxpayers $900 for a $7.00 electric switch, and $80 for a $1.40 drainpipe. Where is the outrage? Or even media coverage? Why did the government ignore contracting irregularities and then award the same company billions in new contracts.
Bill's wife is a crook...
Since 2005, Farouki has participated in The Clinton Global Initiative, and during his presidency, Bill Clinton appointed him to the prestigious advisory board for Washington’s Kennedy Center.
Remember the $600 Defense Department hammer controversy from the 1980s? And liberals screaming over Halliburton during the Bush Presidency? SIGIR found Anham billed American taxpayers $900 for a $7.00 electric switch, and $80 for a $1.40 drainpipe. Where is the outrage? Or even media coverage? Why did the government ignore contracting irregularities and then award the same company billions in new contracts.
Bill's wife is a crook...
Between 1995 and 2008, Farouki family members made at least 19 donations to Clinton-associated campaigns.
Since 2005, Farouki has participated in The Clinton Global Initiative, and during his presidency, Bill Clinton appointed him to the prestigious advisory board for Washington’s Kennedy Center.
Remember the $600 Defense Department hammer controversy from the 1980s? And liberals screaming over Halliburton during the Bush Presidency? SIGIR found Anham billed American taxpayers $900 for a $7.00 electric switch, and $80 for a $1.40 drainpipe. Where is the outrage? Or even media coverage? Why did the government ignore contracting irregularities and then award the same company billions in new contracts.
Bill's wife is a crook...
That's stretch! You're suggesting that the Clintons knew that a defense contractor was overbilling the government.
Ridgerunner
'Ole Wise One'
Report: Whistleblower Who Found Information Showing Feds Ignored Hillary's Dealings With Russians Has Home Raided By FBI
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Report: Whistleblower Who Found Information Showing Feds Ignored Hillary's Dealings With Russians Has Home Raided By FBI
Russia Russia Russia…
Report: Whistleblower Who Found Information Showing Feds Ignored Hillary's Dealings With Russians Has Home Raided By FBI
Between 1995 and 2008, Farouki family members made at least 19 donations to Clinton-associated campaigns.
Since 2005, Farouki has participated in The Clinton Global Initiative, and during his presidency, Bill Clinton appointed him to the prestigious advisory board for Washington’s Kennedy Center.
Remember the $600 Defense Department hammer controversy from the 1980s? And liberals screaming over Halliburton during the Bush Presidency? SIGIR found Anham billed American taxpayers $900 for a $7.00 electric switch, and $80 for a $1.40 drainpipe. Where is the outrage? Or even media coverage? Why did the government ignore contracting irregularities and then award the same company billions in new contracts.
Bill's wife is a crook...
This the biggest load of bullshit yet... You think Clinton's sold out US for $8bn for less than $100k... You call these people evil masterminds, how does that add up...
Lets look at pay for play...
"
Sheldon Adelson, a GOP megadonor and CEO of the largest casino company in the United States, Las Vegas Sands Corp. He doled out $5 millionfor Trump’s inauguration fund.
The donation was not only Trump’s largest inaugural contribution, but the largest individual donation made to any presidential inaugural committee. He and his wife, Miriam Adelson, also donated nearly $83 million to Republicans in the 2016 election."
President Trump’s top donors: Where are they now?
Opinion | Miriam Adelson's Medal of Freedom perfectly captures Trump's transactional presidency
"Freedom may be priceless, but the Presidential Medal of Freedom may have a price tag: $133 million. That’s how much Miriam and Sheldon Adelson, the Republican megadonors, ponied up to President Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign ($20 million) and to Republican and conservative groups and candidates in the 2018 election cycle ($113 million)."
Might as well put a for sale sign up in the Rose Garden...
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Between 1995 and 2008, Farouki family members made at least 19 donations to Clinton-associated campaigns.
Since 2005, Farouki has participated in The Clinton Global Initiative, and during his presidency, Bill Clinton appointed him to the prestigious advisory board for Washington’s Kennedy Center.
Remember the $600 Defense Department hammer controversy from the 1980s? And liberals screaming over Halliburton during the Bush Presidency? SIGIR found Anham billed American taxpayers $900 for a $7.00 electric switch, and $80 for a $1.40 drainpipe. Where is the outrage? Or even media coverage? Why did the government ignore contracting irregularities and then award the same company billions in new contracts.
Bill's wife is a crook...
This the biggest load of bullshit yet... You think Clinton's sold out US for $8bn for less than $100k... You call these people evil masterminds, how does that add up...
Lets look at pay for play...
"
Sheldon Adelson, a GOP megadonor and CEO of the largest casino company in the United States, Las Vegas Sands Corp. He doled out $5 millionfor Trump’s inauguration fund.
The donation was not only Trump’s largest inaugural contribution, but the largest individual donation made to any presidential inaugural committee. He and his wife, Miriam Adelson, also donated nearly $83 million to Republicans in the 2016 election."
President Trump’s top donors: Where are they now?
Opinion | Miriam Adelson's Medal of Freedom perfectly captures Trump's transactional presidency
"Freedom may be priceless, but the Presidential Medal of Freedom may have a price tag: $133 million. That’s how much Miriam and Sheldon Adelson, the Republican megadonors, ponied up to President Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign ($20 million) and to Republican and conservative groups and candidates in the 2018 election cycle ($113 million)."
Might as well put a for sale sign up in the Rose Garden...
They got a medal. Whoa... I'm gonna faint. I can't believe how rich Adelsons got of their donation.
sartre play
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Thanks for digging up this old hat, learned a few things.
Between 1995 and 2008, Farouki family members made at least 19 donations to Clinton-associated campaigns.
Since 2005, Farouki has participated in The Clinton Global Initiative, and during his presidency, Bill Clinton appointed him to the prestigious advisory board for Washington’s Kennedy Center.
Remember the $600 Defense Department hammer controversy from the 1980s? And liberals screaming over Halliburton during the Bush Presidency? SIGIR found Anham billed American taxpayers $900 for a $7.00 electric switch, and $80 for a $1.40 drainpipe. Where is the outrage? Or even media coverage? Why did the government ignore contracting irregularities and then award the same company billions in new contracts.
Bill's wife is a crook...
This the biggest load of bullshit yet... You think Clinton's sold out US for $8bn for less than $100k... You call these people evil masterminds, how does that add up...
Lets look at pay for play...
"
Sheldon Adelson, a GOP megadonor and CEO of the largest casino company in the United States, Las Vegas Sands Corp. He doled out $5 millionfor Trump’s inauguration fund.
The donation was not only Trump’s largest inaugural contribution, but the largest individual donation made to any presidential inaugural committee. He and his wife, Miriam Adelson, also donated nearly $83 million to Republicans in the 2016 election."
President Trump’s top donors: Where are they now?
Opinion | Miriam Adelson's Medal of Freedom perfectly captures Trump's transactional presidency
"Freedom may be priceless, but the Presidential Medal of Freedom may have a price tag: $133 million. That’s how much Miriam and Sheldon Adelson, the Republican megadonors, ponied up to President Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign ($20 million) and to Republican and conservative groups and candidates in the 2018 election cycle ($113 million)."
Might as well put a for sale sign up in the Rose Garden...
They got a medal. Whoa... I'm gonna faint. I can't believe how rich Adelsons got of their donation.
Highest Civilian Honour.....
AND
President Trump Lobbies for Sheldon Adelson's Japan Casino Bid to Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe
Difference we have proof you have nothing...
Hang on.
Major Democrat, Clinton Donor Indicted for Fraud, Violating Iran Sanctions
These guys are mainly guilty of shipping material through Iran. Thats it.
Guilty yes... They are accused of defrauding billions, one contract they lied on.
In total they gave $320k to Democrats..
Have you got a place where the got pay for play?
Major Democrat, Clinton Donor Indicted for Fraud, Violating Iran Sanctions
These guys are mainly guilty of shipping material through Iran. Thats it.
Guilty yes... They are accused of defrauding billions, one contract they lied on.
In total they gave $320k to Democrats..
Have you got a place where the got pay for play?
Donations to the Clinton Foundation dropped by more than 50% after Hillary could no longer sell influence. Apparently the tickets to see today's Clinton tour are around $9 and they still can't fill a venue.
Ridgerunner
'Ole Wise One'
Donations to the Clinton Foundation dropped by more than 50% after Hillary could no longer sell influence. Apparently the tickets to see today's Clinton tour are around $9 and they still can't fill a venue.
I'm thinking that CowboyTed ought to pull out his check book because Bill's wife needs the money...
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