When Freedom of Conscience Died....

....in America
1. When America was the 'shining city on the hill,' prior to the ascendancy of Liberalism, people were encouraged to say and think whatever they cared to, whatever they believed.
But when Liberals became the majority, whatever they claimed to believe become the only allowed expressions of speech and of thought.

One of the old kind of Liberals, Kirsten Powers, penned a best-seller called
"The Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech"


2. As has often been reported in these threads, and denied by the Liberal acolytes, modern Liberalism is simply a permutation of every earlier totalitarian view.

Let's review the progression.

a. During the French Revolution, the provenance of the Bolsheviks and the Nazis, and the Fascists, the elites claimed to be infused with the 'will of the people," the "general will."
“We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will. Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68

b. "The actual insurrection--the Bolshevik Revolution--began on the morning of November 6 (October 24) 1917, ....
The Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union Union

In November/December, the penal system was re-written to include the Bolshevik version of the 'general will'....naming those who do not subscribe to the government's doctrines as "enemy of the people."

...and, ex-post facto, the Bolsheviks arrested and exterminated all those 'enemies of the people.'

"The Soviet Union made extensive use of the term (Russian language:враг народа,"vrag naroda"), as it fitted well with the idea that the people were in control. The term was used by Vladimir Lenin after coming to power, as early as in the decree of 28 November 1917:

"all leaders of the Constitutional Democratic Party, a party filled with enemies of the people, are hereby to be considered outlaws, and are to be arrested immediately and brought before the revolutionary court."
Nicolas Werth, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Panné, Jean-Louis Margolin, Andrzej Paczkowski,Stéphane Courtois, "The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression"



But....
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”― George Orwell

And so it was....once upon a time.

Who's right to say what they want to say is being infringed by the government. Freedom of speech is not the freedom to force anyone to give you a platform for speech they don't agree with.
It is my freedom of speech right to offend you......:lol:

You have freedom from the government stopping you. I, however can tell you to go fuck yourself, and don't have to give you a platform to spout your cap.
 
....in America
1. When America was the 'shining city on the hill,' prior to the ascendancy of Liberalism, people were encouraged to say and think whatever they cared to, whatever they believed.
But when Liberals became the majority, whatever they claimed to believe become the only allowed expressions of speech and of thought.

One of the old kind of Liberals, Kirsten Powers, penned a best-seller called
"The Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech"


2. As has often been reported in these threads, and denied by the Liberal acolytes, modern Liberalism is simply a permutation of every earlier totalitarian view.

Let's review the progression.

a. During the French Revolution, the provenance of the Bolsheviks and the Nazis, and the Fascists, the elites claimed to be infused with the 'will of the people," the "general will."
“We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will. Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68

b. "The actual insurrection--the Bolshevik Revolution--began on the morning of November 6 (October 24) 1917, ....
The Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union Union

In November/December, the penal system was re-written to include the Bolshevik version of the 'general will'....naming those who do not subscribe to the government's doctrines as "enemy of the people."

...and, ex-post facto, the Bolsheviks arrested and exterminated all those 'enemies of the people.'

"The Soviet Union made extensive use of the term (Russian language:враг народа,"vrag naroda"), as it fitted well with the idea that the people were in control. The term was used by Vladimir Lenin after coming to power, as early as in the decree of 28 November 1917:

"all leaders of the Constitutional Democratic Party, a party filled with enemies of the people, are hereby to be considered outlaws, and are to be arrested immediately and brought before the revolutionary court."
Nicolas Werth, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Panné, Jean-Louis Margolin, Andrzej Paczkowski,Stéphane Courtois, "The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression"



But....
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”― George Orwell

And so it was....once upon a time.

Who's right to say what they want to say is being infringed by the government. Freedom of speech is not the freedom to force anyone to give you a platform for speech they don't agree with.
It is my freedom of speech right to offend you......:lol:

You have freedom from the government stopping you. I, however can tell you to go fuck yourself, and don't have to give you a platform to spout your cap.
You just did, fucktard......:lol:
 
America was never a shining city on a hill, that was the kind of bullshit all governments do to subjects.


I actually appreciate when you make a fool of yourself, as you just did.....saves me the trouble.


The proof of America as the shining city on the hill can be ascertained by what I call the 'Gates Test.'

When the gates are opened....do folks rush in or rush out.


They're open....don't let 'em hit you on your way out.

I would be mortified if you ever approved of something I said love, thank you.



Brendan Eich.....
Liberals demanded he step down from the company he created..... many Mozilla employees followed suit, using similar language or copying each other's statements outright. Those included Mozilla Festival curator Chloe Vareldi, partnerships lead John Bevan, designer Jessica Klein, and engagement team member Sydney Moyer."
Mozilla employees tell Brendan Eich he needs to step down Ars Technica




What was his crime?

What was he charged with?
 
Having asked a simple question of the simpletons....the Liberals who were incensed by the thread.....

This question: what was the crime that Brendan Eich committed that made it imperative that he be removed from the company that he founded....
...it seems clear that the crime was to believe differently from the Liberal's 'general will', to actually have a different opinion...

...hence, Mr. Eich became 'an enemy of the people.'


QED....Liberals are no different from their predecessors...communists, fascists, and Nazis.
 
America was never a shining city on a hill, that was the kind of bullshit all governments do to subjects.


I actually appreciate when you make a fool of yourself, as you just did.....saves me the trouble.


The proof of America as the shining city on the hill can be ascertained by what I call the 'Gates Test.'

When the gates are opened....do folks rush in or rush out.


They're open....don't let 'em hit you on your way out.

I would be mortified if you ever approved of something I said love, thank you.



Brendan Eich.....
Liberals demanded he step down from the company he created..... many Mozilla employees followed suit, using similar language or copying each other's statements outright. Those included Mozilla Festival curator Chloe Vareldi, partnerships lead John Bevan, designer Jessica Klein, and engagement team member Sydney Moyer."
Mozilla employees tell Brendan Eich he needs to step down Ars Technica




What was his crime?

What was he charged with?

"What was he charged with?"

Disagreeing with Liberals.


"Mozilla Employees Call for CEO to be Fired for Donating to Prop 8 Campaign

....thousands [of Liberals] have signed a petition calling for new Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich to either openly endorse gay marriage or be fired."
Mozilla Employees Call for CEO to be Fired for Donating to Prop 8 Campaign, by Alec Torres, National Review
 
....in America
1. When America was the 'shining city on the hill,' prior to the ascendancy of Liberalism, people were encouraged to say and think whatever they cared to, whatever they believed.
But when Liberals became the majority, whatever they claimed to believe become the only allowed expressions of speech and of thought.

One of the old kind of Liberals, Kirsten Powers, penned a best-seller called
"The Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech"


2. As has often been reported in these threads, and denied by the Liberal acolytes, modern Liberalism is simply a permutation of every earlier totalitarian view.

Let's review the progression.

a. During the French Revolution, the provenance of the Bolsheviks and the Nazis, and the Fascists, the elites claimed to be infused with the 'will of the people," the "general will."
“We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will. Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68

b. "The actual insurrection--the Bolshevik Revolution--began on the morning of November 6 (October 24) 1917, ....
The Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union Union

In November/December, the penal system was re-written to include the Bolshevik version of the 'general will'....naming those who do not subscribe to the government's doctrines as "enemy of the people."

...and, ex-post facto, the Bolsheviks arrested and exterminated all those 'enemies of the people.'

"The Soviet Union made extensive use of the term (Russian language:враг народа,"vrag naroda"), as it fitted well with the idea that the people were in control. The term was used by Vladimir Lenin after coming to power, as early as in the decree of 28 November 1917:

"all leaders of the Constitutional Democratic Party, a party filled with enemies of the people, are hereby to be considered outlaws, and are to be arrested immediately and brought before the revolutionary court."
Nicolas Werth, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Panné, Jean-Louis Margolin, Andrzej Paczkowski,Stéphane Courtois, "The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression"



But....
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”― George Orwell

And so it was....once upon a time.

Who's right to say what they want to say is being infringed by the government. Freedom of speech is not the freedom to force anyone to give you a platform for speech they don't agree with.

Brendan Eich.....
Liberals demanded he step down from the company he created..... many Mozilla employees followed suit, using similar language or copying each other's statements outright. Those included Mozilla Festival curator Chloe Vareldi, partnerships lead John Bevan, designer Jessica Klein, and engagement team member Sydney Moyer."
Mozilla employees tell Brendan Eich he needs to step down Ars Technica




What was his crime?

Did someone say he was guilty of a crime? Those people you listed were using their right to say what they wanted to say just like Eich did. Eich had the right to make his remarks, but he still has to take the consequences of what he says just like everybody else. Do you even know what freedom of speech means?
 
....in America
1. When America was the 'shining city on the hill,' prior to the ascendancy of Liberalism, people were encouraged to say and think whatever they cared to, whatever they believed.
But when Liberals became the majority, whatever they claimed to believe become the only allowed expressions of speech and of thought.

One of the old kind of Liberals, Kirsten Powers, penned a best-seller called
"The Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech"


2. As has often been reported in these threads, and denied by the Liberal acolytes, modern Liberalism is simply a permutation of every earlier totalitarian view.

Let's review the progression.

a. During the French Revolution, the provenance of the Bolsheviks and the Nazis, and the Fascists, the elites claimed to be infused with the 'will of the people," the "general will."
“We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will. Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68

b. "The actual insurrection--the Bolshevik Revolution--began on the morning of November 6 (October 24) 1917, ....
The Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union Union

In November/December, the penal system was re-written to include the Bolshevik version of the 'general will'....naming those who do not subscribe to the government's doctrines as "enemy of the people."

...and, ex-post facto, the Bolsheviks arrested and exterminated all those 'enemies of the people.'

"The Soviet Union made extensive use of the term (Russian language:враг народа,"vrag naroda"), as it fitted well with the idea that the people were in control. The term was used by Vladimir Lenin after coming to power, as early as in the decree of 28 November 1917:

"all leaders of the Constitutional Democratic Party, a party filled with enemies of the people, are hereby to be considered outlaws, and are to be arrested immediately and brought before the revolutionary court."
Nicolas Werth, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Panné, Jean-Louis Margolin, Andrzej Paczkowski,Stéphane Courtois, "The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression"



But....
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”― George Orwell

And so it was....once upon a time.

Who's right to say what they want to say is being infringed by the government. Freedom of speech is not the freedom to force anyone to give you a platform for speech they don't agree with.

Brendan Eich.....
Liberals demanded he step down from the company he created..... many Mozilla employees followed suit, using similar language or copying each other's statements outright. Those included Mozilla Festival curator Chloe Vareldi, partnerships lead John Bevan, designer Jessica Klein, and engagement team member Sydney Moyer."
Mozilla employees tell Brendan Eich he needs to step down Ars Technica




What was his crime?

Did someone say he was guilty of a crime? Those people you listed were using their right to say what they wanted to say just like Eich did. Eich had the right to make his remarks, but he still has to take the consequences of what he says just like everybody else. Do you even know what freedom of speech means?



"....a sizable portion of the Mozilla Community refused to follow the person that the Board designated to lead the organization. That wide refusal and rejection fomented the issue, and Eich's decision to maintain his public stance on gay marriage -- ..."
Did Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Deserve To Be Removed From His Position?


Can I assume that you agree with the Liberal contention that one must.....must....agree with the 'general will'....or else?
 
4. tweets from Mozilla Open Badges project lead Chris McAvoy:
"McAvoy added that he feels fortunate to work at a company like Mozilla, "where I can say that without fear of retribution."
So typical of the Left-wing hypocrites, he didn't allow Brendan Eich to be as fortunate.



"In November 2008 — five months after gay couples began marrying in the state — Californians went to the polls and voted 52% to 48% to ban same-sex marriage.

Proposition 8 amended California’s Constitution to define marriage as between a man and a woman and is the state’s costliest social initiative to date, with more than $83 million raised.

The initiative fight got underway after the California Supreme Court ruled unconstitutional a 2000 vote that limited marriage to heterosexual couples. In their May 2008 decision, the justices said gay couples had the same fundamental right to marry.

Supporters of Proposition 8 wanted to end gay marriage in California; opponents wanted to maintain the right of same-sex couples to wed."
Proposition 8 Campaign Contributions - Los Angeles Times




A six-year old donation of $1,000 to the "Yes on 8"campaign by Eich based on a different opinion from that of the Liberal orthodoxy.
Lynch him....in the 21st century fashion.



Did Eich "do" anything to gay couples?
Did he fire any?
Abuse or harass any????

No....he simply differed in opinion from their view.
He differed from "the general will," hence....an "enemy of the people"...earning him pitchforks and torches.
 
....in America
1. When America was the 'shining city on the hill,' prior to the ascendancy of Liberalism, people were encouraged to say and think whatever they cared to, whatever they believed.
But when Liberals became the majority, whatever they claimed to believe become the only allowed expressions of speech and of thought.

One of the old kind of Liberals, Kirsten Powers, penned a best-seller called
"The Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech"


2. As has often been reported in these threads, and denied by the Liberal acolytes, modern Liberalism is simply a permutation of every earlier totalitarian view.

Let's review the progression.

a. During the French Revolution, the provenance of the Bolsheviks and the Nazis, and the Fascists, the elites claimed to be infused with the 'will of the people," the "general will."
“We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will. Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68

b. "The actual insurrection--the Bolshevik Revolution--began on the morning of November 6 (October 24) 1917, ....
The Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union Union

In November/December, the penal system was re-written to include the Bolshevik version of the 'general will'....naming those who do not subscribe to the government's doctrines as "enemy of the people."

...and, ex-post facto, the Bolsheviks arrested and exterminated all those 'enemies of the people.'

"The Soviet Union made extensive use of the term (Russian language:враг народа,"vrag naroda"), as it fitted well with the idea that the people were in control. The term was used by Vladimir Lenin after coming to power, as early as in the decree of 28 November 1917:

"all leaders of the Constitutional Democratic Party, a party filled with enemies of the people, are hereby to be considered outlaws, and are to be arrested immediately and brought before the revolutionary court."
Nicolas Werth, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Panné, Jean-Louis Margolin, Andrzej Paczkowski,Stéphane Courtois, "The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression"



But....
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”― George Orwell

And so it was....once upon a time.

Who's right to say what they want to say is being infringed by the government. Freedom of speech is not the freedom to force anyone to give you a platform for speech they don't agree with.

Brendan Eich.....
Liberals demanded he step down from the company he created..... many Mozilla employees followed suit, using similar language or copying each other's statements outright. Those included Mozilla Festival curator Chloe Vareldi, partnerships lead John Bevan, designer Jessica Klein, and engagement team member Sydney Moyer."
Mozilla employees tell Brendan Eich he needs to step down Ars Technica




What was his crime?

Did someone say he was guilty of a crime? Those people you listed were using their right to say what they wanted to say just like Eich did. Eich had the right to make his remarks, but he still has to take the consequences of what he says just like everybody else. Do you even know what freedom of speech means?



"....a sizable portion of the Mozilla Community refused to follow the person that the Board designated to lead the organization. That wide refusal and rejection fomented the issue, and Eich's decision to maintain his public stance on gay marriage -- ..."
Did Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Deserve To Be Removed From His Position?


Can I assume that you agree with the Liberal contention that one must.....must....agree with the 'general will'....or else?


One must face the consequences of their actions. Each and every one of the people who demanded he be removed had the right to do that. Can I assume you want to remove the rights from all those people? Nobody even tried to remove any of Eich's rights. He was able to do exactly what he chose to do. Nobody has the right to avoid the consequences of their actions.
 
4. tweets from Mozilla Open Badges project lead Chris McAvoy:
"McAvoy added that he feels fortunate to work at a company like Mozilla, "where I can say that without fear of retribution."
So typical of the Left-wing hypocrites, he didn't allow Brendan Eich to be as fortunate.



"In November 2008 — five months after gay couples began marrying in the state — Californians went to the polls and voted 52% to 48% to ban same-sex marriage.

Proposition 8 amended California’s Constitution to define marriage as between a man and a woman and is the state’s costliest social initiative to date, with more than $83 million raised.

The initiative fight got underway after the California Supreme Court ruled unconstitutional a 2000 vote that limited marriage to heterosexual couples. In their May 2008 decision, the justices said gay couples had the same fundamental right to marry.

Supporters of Proposition 8 wanted to end gay marriage in California; opponents wanted to maintain the right of same-sex couples to wed."
Proposition 8 Campaign Contributions - Los Angeles Times




A six-year old donation of $1,000 to the "Yes on 8"campaign by Eich based on a different opinion from that of the Liberal orthodoxy.
Lynch him....in the 21st century fashion.



Did Eich "do" anything to gay couples?
Did he fire any?
Abuse or harass any????

No....he simply differed in opinion from their view.
He differed from "the general will," hence....an "enemy of the people"...earning him pitchforks and torches.

As usual, you're just upset because....... I'm not sure why you are upset. Hormone imbalance?
 
....in America
1. When America was the 'shining city on the hill,' prior to the ascendancy of Liberalism, people were encouraged to say and think whatever they cared to, whatever they believed.
But when Liberals became the majority, whatever they claimed to believe become the only allowed expressions of speech and of thought.

One of the old kind of Liberals, Kirsten Powers, penned a best-seller called
"The Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech"


2. As has often been reported in these threads, and denied by the Liberal acolytes, modern Liberalism is simply a permutation of every earlier totalitarian view.

Let's review the progression.

a. During the French Revolution, the provenance of the Bolsheviks and the Nazis, and the Fascists, the elites claimed to be infused with the 'will of the people," the "general will."
“We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will. Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68

b. "The actual insurrection--the Bolshevik Revolution--began on the morning of November 6 (October 24) 1917, ....
The Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union Union

In November/December, the penal system was re-written to include the Bolshevik version of the 'general will'....naming those who do not subscribe to the government's doctrines as "enemy of the people."

...and, ex-post facto, the Bolsheviks arrested and exterminated all those 'enemies of the people.'

"The Soviet Union made extensive use of the term (Russian language:враг народа,"vrag naroda"), as it fitted well with the idea that the people were in control. The term was used by Vladimir Lenin after coming to power, as early as in the decree of 28 November 1917:

"all leaders of the Constitutional Democratic Party, a party filled with enemies of the people, are hereby to be considered outlaws, and are to be arrested immediately and brought before the revolutionary court."
Nicolas Werth, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Panné, Jean-Louis Margolin, Andrzej Paczkowski,Stéphane Courtois, "The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression"



But....
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”― George Orwell

And so it was....once upon a time.

Who's right to say what they want to say is being infringed by the government. Freedom of speech is not the freedom to force anyone to give you a platform for speech they don't agree with.

Brendan Eich.....
Liberals demanded he step down from the company he created..... many Mozilla employees followed suit, using similar language or copying each other's statements outright. Those included Mozilla Festival curator Chloe Vareldi, partnerships lead John Bevan, designer Jessica Klein, and engagement team member Sydney Moyer."
Mozilla employees tell Brendan Eich he needs to step down Ars Technica




What was his crime?

Did someone say he was guilty of a crime? Those people you listed were using their right to say what they wanted to say just like Eich did. Eich had the right to make his remarks, but he still has to take the consequences of what he says just like everybody else. Do you even know what freedom of speech means?



"....a sizable portion of the Mozilla Community refused to follow the person that the Board designated to lead the organization. That wide refusal and rejection fomented the issue, and Eich's decision to maintain his public stance on gay marriage -- ..."
Did Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Deserve To Be Removed From His Position?


Can I assume that you agree with the Liberal contention that one must.....must....agree with the 'general will'....or else?


One must face the consequences of their actions. Each and every one of the people who demanded he be removed had the right to do that. Can I assume you want to remove the rights from all those people? Nobody even tried to remove any of Eich's rights. He was able to do exactly what he chose to do. Nobody has the right to avoid the consequences of their actions.
yours are coming soon......
 
....in America
1. When America was the 'shining city on the hill,' prior to the ascendancy of Liberalism, people were encouraged to say and think whatever they cared to, whatever they believed.
But when Liberals became the majority, whatever they claimed to believe become the only allowed expressions of speech and of thought.

One of the old kind of Liberals, Kirsten Powers, penned a best-seller called
"The Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech"


2. As has often been reported in these threads, and denied by the Liberal acolytes, modern Liberalism is simply a permutation of every earlier totalitarian view.

Let's review the progression.

a. During the French Revolution, the provenance of the Bolsheviks and the Nazis, and the Fascists, the elites claimed to be infused with the 'will of the people," the "general will."
“We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will. Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68

b. "The actual insurrection--the Bolshevik Revolution--began on the morning of November 6 (October 24) 1917, ....
The Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union Union

In November/December, the penal system was re-written to include the Bolshevik version of the 'general will'....naming those who do not subscribe to the government's doctrines as "enemy of the people."

...and, ex-post facto, the Bolsheviks arrested and exterminated all those 'enemies of the people.'

"The Soviet Union made extensive use of the term (Russian language:враг народа,"vrag naroda"), as it fitted well with the idea that the people were in control. The term was used by Vladimir Lenin after coming to power, as early as in the decree of 28 November 1917:

"all leaders of the Constitutional Democratic Party, a party filled with enemies of the people, are hereby to be considered outlaws, and are to be arrested immediately and brought before the revolutionary court."
Nicolas Werth, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Panné, Jean-Louis Margolin, Andrzej Paczkowski,Stéphane Courtois, "The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression"



But....
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”― George Orwell

And so it was....once upon a time.

Who's right to say what they want to say is being infringed by the government. Freedom of speech is not the freedom to force anyone to give you a platform for speech they don't agree with.

Brendan Eich.....
Liberals demanded he step down from the company he created..... many Mozilla employees followed suit, using similar language or copying each other's statements outright. Those included Mozilla Festival curator Chloe Vareldi, partnerships lead John Bevan, designer Jessica Klein, and engagement team member Sydney Moyer."
Mozilla employees tell Brendan Eich he needs to step down Ars Technica




What was his crime?

Did someone say he was guilty of a crime? Those people you listed were using their right to say what they wanted to say just like Eich did. Eich had the right to make his remarks, but he still has to take the consequences of what he says just like everybody else. Do you even know what freedom of speech means?



"....a sizable portion of the Mozilla Community refused to follow the person that the Board designated to lead the organization. That wide refusal and rejection fomented the issue, and Eich's decision to maintain his public stance on gay marriage -- ..."
Did Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Deserve To Be Removed From His Position?


Can I assume that you agree with the Liberal contention that one must.....must....agree with the 'general will'....or else?


One must face the consequences of their actions. Each and every one of the people who demanded he be removed had the right to do that. Can I assume you want to remove the rights from all those people? Nobody even tried to remove any of Eich's rights. He was able to do exactly what he chose to do. Nobody has the right to avoid the consequences of their actions.


"One must face the consequences of their actions."

What actions were there?
 
....in America
1. When America was the 'shining city on the hill,' prior to the ascendancy of Liberalism, people were encouraged to say and think whatever they cared to, whatever they believed.
But when Liberals became the majority, whatever they claimed to believe become the only allowed expressions of speech and of thought.

One of the old kind of Liberals, Kirsten Powers, penned a best-seller called
"The Silencing: How the Left is Killing Free Speech"


2. As has often been reported in these threads, and denied by the Liberal acolytes, modern Liberalism is simply a permutation of every earlier totalitarian view.

Let's review the progression.

a. During the French Revolution, the provenance of the Bolsheviks and the Nazis, and the Fascists, the elites claimed to be infused with the 'will of the people," the "general will."
“We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will. Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68

b. "The actual insurrection--the Bolshevik Revolution--began on the morning of November 6 (October 24) 1917, ....
The Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union Union

In November/December, the penal system was re-written to include the Bolshevik version of the 'general will'....naming those who do not subscribe to the government's doctrines as "enemy of the people."

...and, ex-post facto, the Bolsheviks arrested and exterminated all those 'enemies of the people.'

"The Soviet Union made extensive use of the term (Russian language:враг народа,"vrag naroda"), as it fitted well with the idea that the people were in control. The term was used by Vladimir Lenin after coming to power, as early as in the decree of 28 November 1917:

"all leaders of the Constitutional Democratic Party, a party filled with enemies of the people, are hereby to be considered outlaws, and are to be arrested immediately and brought before the revolutionary court."
Nicolas Werth, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Panné, Jean-Louis Margolin, Andrzej Paczkowski,Stéphane Courtois, "The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression"



But....
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”― George Orwell

And so it was....once upon a time.

Who's right to say what they want to say is being infringed by the government. Freedom of speech is not the freedom to force anyone to give you a platform for speech they don't agree with.

Brendan Eich.....
Liberals demanded he step down from the company he created..... many Mozilla employees followed suit, using similar language or copying each other's statements outright. Those included Mozilla Festival curator Chloe Vareldi, partnerships lead John Bevan, designer Jessica Klein, and engagement team member Sydney Moyer."
Mozilla employees tell Brendan Eich he needs to step down Ars Technica




What was his crime?

Did someone say he was guilty of a crime? Those people you listed were using their right to say what they wanted to say just like Eich did. Eich had the right to make his remarks, but he still has to take the consequences of what he says just like everybody else. Do you even know what freedom of speech means?



"....a sizable portion of the Mozilla Community refused to follow the person that the Board designated to lead the organization. That wide refusal and rejection fomented the issue, and Eich's decision to maintain his public stance on gay marriage -- ..."
Did Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Deserve To Be Removed From His Position?


Can I assume that you agree with the Liberal contention that one must.....must....agree with the 'general will'....or else?


One must face the consequences of their actions. Each and every one of the people who demanded he be removed had the right to do that. Can I assume you want to remove the rights from all those people? Nobody even tried to remove any of Eich's rights. He was able to do exactly what he chose to do. Nobody has the right to avoid the consequences of their actions.



"....a sizable portion of the Mozilla Community refused to follow the person that the Board designated to lead the organization. That wide refusal and rejection fomented the issue, and Eich's decision to maintain his public stance on gay marriage -- ..."
Did Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Deserve To Be Removed From His Position?


They demanded he lose his job because he differed from their opinion.

Hence....Liberals are, in reality, Fascists.
 
Who's right to say what they want to say is being infringed by the government. Freedom of speech is not the freedom to force anyone to give you a platform for speech they don't agree with.

Brendan Eich.....
Liberals demanded he step down from the company he created..... many Mozilla employees followed suit, using similar language or copying each other's statements outright. Those included Mozilla Festival curator Chloe Vareldi, partnerships lead John Bevan, designer Jessica Klein, and engagement team member Sydney Moyer."
Mozilla employees tell Brendan Eich he needs to step down Ars Technica




What was his crime?

Did someone say he was guilty of a crime? Those people you listed were using their right to say what they wanted to say just like Eich did. Eich had the right to make his remarks, but he still has to take the consequences of what he says just like everybody else. Do you even know what freedom of speech means?



"....a sizable portion of the Mozilla Community refused to follow the person that the Board designated to lead the organization. That wide refusal and rejection fomented the issue, and Eich's decision to maintain his public stance on gay marriage -- ..."
Did Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Deserve To Be Removed From His Position?


Can I assume that you agree with the Liberal contention that one must.....must....agree with the 'general will'....or else?


One must face the consequences of their actions. Each and every one of the people who demanded he be removed had the right to do that. Can I assume you want to remove the rights from all those people? Nobody even tried to remove any of Eich's rights. He was able to do exactly what he chose to do. Nobody has the right to avoid the consequences of their actions.


"One must face the consequences of their actions."

What actions were there?

He supported the denial of rights to a section of the population.
 
4. tweets from Mozilla Open Badges project lead Chris McAvoy:
"McAvoy added that he feels fortunate to work at a company like Mozilla, "where I can say that without fear of retribution."
So typical of the Left-wing hypocrites, he didn't allow Brendan Eich to be as fortunate.



"In November 2008 — five months after gay couples began marrying in the state — Californians went to the polls and voted 52% to 48% to ban same-sex marriage.

Proposition 8 amended California’s Constitution to define marriage as between a man and a woman and is the state’s costliest social initiative to date, with more than $83 million raised.

The initiative fight got underway after the California Supreme Court ruled unconstitutional a 2000 vote that limited marriage to heterosexual couples. In their May 2008 decision, the justices said gay couples had the same fundamental right to marry.

Supporters of Proposition 8 wanted to end gay marriage in California; opponents wanted to maintain the right of same-sex couples to wed."
Proposition 8 Campaign Contributions - Los Angeles Times




A six-year old donation of $1,000 to the "Yes on 8"campaign by Eich based on a different opinion from that of the Liberal orthodoxy.
Lynch him....in the 21st century fashion.



Did Eich "do" anything to gay couples?
Did he fire any?
Abuse or harass any????

No....he simply differed in opinion from their view.
He differed from "the general will," hence....an "enemy of the people"...earning him pitchforks and torches.

As usual, you're just upset because....... I'm not sure why you are upset. Hormone imbalance?

"As usual, you're just upset because....... I'm not sure why you are upset."

I'm 'upset' because I believe in liberty, and there are so many Fascists like you.

Isn't that clear from the OP?



As has often been reported in these threads, and denied by the Liberal acolytes, modern Liberalism is simply a permutation of every earlier totalitarian view.

Let's review the progression.

a. During the French Revolution, the provenance of the Bolsheviks and the Nazis, and the Fascists, the elites claimed to be infused with the 'will of the people," the "general will."
“We must reason about all things,” and anyone who ‘refuses to seek out the truth’ thereby renounces his human nature and “should be treated by the rest of his species as a wild beast.” So, once ‘truth’ is determined, anyone who doesn’t accept it was “either insane or wicked and morally evil.” It is not the individual who has the “ right to decide about the nature of right and wrong,” but only “the human race,” expressed as the general will.
Himmelfarb, “The Roads to Modernity,” p. 167-68

b. "The actual insurrection--the Bolshevik Revolution--began on the morning of November 6 (October 24) 1917, ....
The Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union Union

In November/December, the penal system was re-written to include the Bolshevik version of the 'general will'....naming those who do not subscribe to the government's doctrines as "enemy of the people."

...and, ex-post facto, the Bolsheviks arrested and exterminated all those 'enemies of the people.'

"The Soviet Union made extensive use of the term (Russian language:враг народа,"vrag naroda"), as it fitted well with the idea that the people were in control. The term was used by Vladimir Lenin after coming to power, as early as in the decree of 28 November 1917:

"all leaders of the Constitutional Democratic Party, a party filled with enemies of the people, are hereby to be considered outlaws, and are to be arrested immediately and brought before the revolutionary court."
Nicolas Werth, Karel Bartošek, Jean-Louis Panné, Jean-Louis Margolin, Andrzej Paczkowski,Stéphane Courtois, "The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression"




But....
“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”― George Orwell

And so it was....once upon a time.
 
Who's right to say what they want to say is being infringed by the government. Freedom of speech is not the freedom to force anyone to give you a platform for speech they don't agree with.

Brendan Eich.....
Liberals demanded he step down from the company he created..... many Mozilla employees followed suit, using similar language or copying each other's statements outright. Those included Mozilla Festival curator Chloe Vareldi, partnerships lead John Bevan, designer Jessica Klein, and engagement team member Sydney Moyer."
Mozilla employees tell Brendan Eich he needs to step down Ars Technica




What was his crime?

Did someone say he was guilty of a crime? Those people you listed were using their right to say what they wanted to say just like Eich did. Eich had the right to make his remarks, but he still has to take the consequences of what he says just like everybody else. Do you even know what freedom of speech means?



"....a sizable portion of the Mozilla Community refused to follow the person that the Board designated to lead the organization. That wide refusal and rejection fomented the issue, and Eich's decision to maintain his public stance on gay marriage -- ..."
Did Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Deserve To Be Removed From His Position?


Can I assume that you agree with the Liberal contention that one must.....must....agree with the 'general will'....or else?


One must face the consequences of their actions. Each and every one of the people who demanded he be removed had the right to do that. Can I assume you want to remove the rights from all those people? Nobody even tried to remove any of Eich's rights. He was able to do exactly what he chose to do. Nobody has the right to avoid the consequences of their actions.



"....a sizable portion of the Mozilla Community refused to follow the person that the Board designated to lead the organization. That wide refusal and rejection fomented the issue, and Eich's decision to maintain his public stance on gay marriage -- ..."
Did Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Deserve To Be Removed From His Position?


They demanded he lose his job because he differed from their opinion.

Hence....Liberals are, in reality, Fascists.


You're more entertaining each time you post.
 
Brendan Eich.....
Liberals demanded he step down from the company he created..... many Mozilla employees followed suit, using similar language or copying each other's statements outright. Those included Mozilla Festival curator Chloe Vareldi, partnerships lead John Bevan, designer Jessica Klein, and engagement team member Sydney Moyer."
Mozilla employees tell Brendan Eich he needs to step down Ars Technica




What was his crime?

Did someone say he was guilty of a crime? Those people you listed were using their right to say what they wanted to say just like Eich did. Eich had the right to make his remarks, but he still has to take the consequences of what he says just like everybody else. Do you even know what freedom of speech means?



"....a sizable portion of the Mozilla Community refused to follow the person that the Board designated to lead the organization. That wide refusal and rejection fomented the issue, and Eich's decision to maintain his public stance on gay marriage -- ..."
Did Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Deserve To Be Removed From His Position?


Can I assume that you agree with the Liberal contention that one must.....must....agree with the 'general will'....or else?


One must face the consequences of their actions. Each and every one of the people who demanded he be removed had the right to do that. Can I assume you want to remove the rights from all those people? Nobody even tried to remove any of Eich's rights. He was able to do exactly what he chose to do. Nobody has the right to avoid the consequences of their actions.


"One must face the consequences of their actions."

What actions were there?

He supported the denial of rights to a section of the population.


He disagreed with a political perspective.
He did exactly what the Supreme Court decreed is the right of every American.

For this, he lost his job.
 
Brendan Eich.....
Liberals demanded he step down from the company he created..... many Mozilla employees followed suit, using similar language or copying each other's statements outright. Those included Mozilla Festival curator Chloe Vareldi, partnerships lead John Bevan, designer Jessica Klein, and engagement team member Sydney Moyer."
Mozilla employees tell Brendan Eich he needs to step down Ars Technica




What was his crime?

Did someone say he was guilty of a crime? Those people you listed were using their right to say what they wanted to say just like Eich did. Eich had the right to make his remarks, but he still has to take the consequences of what he says just like everybody else. Do you even know what freedom of speech means?



"....a sizable portion of the Mozilla Community refused to follow the person that the Board designated to lead the organization. That wide refusal and rejection fomented the issue, and Eich's decision to maintain his public stance on gay marriage -- ..."
Did Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Deserve To Be Removed From His Position?


Can I assume that you agree with the Liberal contention that one must.....must....agree with the 'general will'....or else?


One must face the consequences of their actions. Each and every one of the people who demanded he be removed had the right to do that. Can I assume you want to remove the rights from all those people? Nobody even tried to remove any of Eich's rights. He was able to do exactly what he chose to do. Nobody has the right to avoid the consequences of their actions.



"....a sizable portion of the Mozilla Community refused to follow the person that the Board designated to lead the organization. That wide refusal and rejection fomented the issue, and Eich's decision to maintain his public stance on gay marriage -- ..."
Did Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Deserve To Be Removed From His Position?


They demanded he lose his job because he differed from their opinion.

Hence....Liberals are, in reality, Fascists.


You're more entertaining each time you post.


This is your answer to what crime he committed....and why you espouse Fascist views?

I don't find that entertaining at all.
 
Did someone say he was guilty of a crime? Those people you listed were using their right to say what they wanted to say just like Eich did. Eich had the right to make his remarks, but he still has to take the consequences of what he says just like everybody else. Do you even know what freedom of speech means?



"....a sizable portion of the Mozilla Community refused to follow the person that the Board designated to lead the organization. That wide refusal and rejection fomented the issue, and Eich's decision to maintain his public stance on gay marriage -- ..."
Did Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Deserve To Be Removed From His Position?


Can I assume that you agree with the Liberal contention that one must.....must....agree with the 'general will'....or else?


One must face the consequences of their actions. Each and every one of the people who demanded he be removed had the right to do that. Can I assume you want to remove the rights from all those people? Nobody even tried to remove any of Eich's rights. He was able to do exactly what he chose to do. Nobody has the right to avoid the consequences of their actions.


"One must face the consequences of their actions."

What actions were there?

He supported the denial of rights to a section of the population.


He disagreed with a political perspective.
He did exactly what the Supreme Court decreed is the right of every American.

For this, he lost his job.

Congratulations. You got that part right. Now, if you try real hard, you will get the rest of it.
 
"....a sizable portion of the Mozilla Community refused to follow the person that the Board designated to lead the organization. That wide refusal and rejection fomented the issue, and Eich's decision to maintain his public stance on gay marriage -- ..."
Did Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich Deserve To Be Removed From His Position?


Can I assume that you agree with the Liberal contention that one must.....must....agree with the 'general will'....or else?


One must face the consequences of their actions. Each and every one of the people who demanded he be removed had the right to do that. Can I assume you want to remove the rights from all those people? Nobody even tried to remove any of Eich's rights. He was able to do exactly what he chose to do. Nobody has the right to avoid the consequences of their actions.


"One must face the consequences of their actions."

What actions were there?

He supported the denial of rights to a section of the population.


He disagreed with a political perspective.
He did exactly what the Supreme Court decreed is the right of every American.

For this, he lost his job.

Congratulations. You got that part right. Now, if you try real hard, you will get the rest of it.


Let's leave it at this:
I pointed out that the Supreme Court decreed that supporting a political view is the right of all Americans, and is covered by the first amendment, free speech.

You see such support as worthy of losing one's livelihood.

I say that makes you a Fascist.

'nuff said?
 

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