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The debate is over. I suggest that even entertaining a discussion about whether or not we are facing a climate change problem is foolish.
I think a debate regarding how to go about solving the problem is reasonable. There are various interests who should have a say.....so there will be differences of opinion.
But....if you are still discussing the very existence of the problem as though it is debatable.......you are wasting everyone's time.
What's the problem? Warmer?
Look at history, when it was warmer, mankind thrived.
Those periods were called climatic optimums.
When it was colder, people starved, died, in huge numbers.
So why is the temperature in 1980 or 1900 or whatever arbitrary year you pick, the perfect temperature?
The debate is over. I suggest that even entertaining a discussion about whether or not we are facing a climate change problem is foolish.
I think a debate regarding how to go about solving the problem is reasonable. There are various interests who should have a say.....so there will be differences of opinion.
But....if you are still discussing the very existence of the problem as though it is debatable.......you are wasting everyone's time.
What's the problem? Warmer?
Look at history, when it was warmer, mankind thrived.
Those periods were called climatic optimums.
When it was colder, people starved, died, in huge numbers.
So why is the temperature in 1980 or 1900 or whatever arbitrary year you pick, the perfect temperature?
It's not just getting "Warmer", though. It's the pace of change that causes ecosystems to die out.
When you have massive die-offs on coral reefs because the water is too warm, or coastal areas flooding because the water is too high, that's really a problem.
This is often the problem with EVERY liberal argument. The debate is over before we even have the debate, the liberal has declared it. No need in arguing, no point can be made in a debate that is over. One time in human history, this was known as shallow-minded stubbornness and we thought the Age of Enlightenment may have eradicated it, but I guess not.The debate is over. I suggest that even entertaining a discussion about whether or not we are facing a climate change problem is foolish.
I think a debate regarding how to go about solving the problem is reasonable. There are various interests who should have a say.....so there will be differences of opinion.
But....if you are still discussing the very existence of the problem as though it is debatable.......you are wasting everyone's time.
It's not just getting "Warmer", though. It's the pace of change that causes ecosystems to die out.
When you have massive die-offs on coral reefs because the water is too warm, or coastal areas flooding because the water is too high, that's really a problem.
In fact, this is not really a complicated equation. I know sometimes I can remember from when I was in high school and college, some aspects of science or physics can be tough – chemistry. But this is not tough. This is simple. Kids at the earliest age can understand this.
Try and picture a very thin layer of gases – a quarter-inch, half an inch, somewhere in that vicinity – that’s how thick it is. It’s in our atmosphere. It’s way up there at the edge of the atmosphere. And for millions of years – literally millions of years – we know that layer has acted like a thermal blanket for the planet – trapping the sun’s heat and warming the surface of the Earth to the ideal, life-sustaining temperature. Average temperature of the Earth has been about 57 degrees Fahrenheit, which keeps life going. Life itself on Earth exists because of the so-called greenhouse effect. But in modern times, as human beings have emitted gases into the air that come from all the things we do, that blanket has grown thicker and it traps more and more heat beneath it, raising the temperature of the planet. It’s called the greenhouse effect because it works exactly like a greenhouse in which you grow a lot of the fruit that you eat here.
This is what’s causing climate change. It’s a huge irony that the very same layer of gases that has made life possible on Earth from the beginning now makes possible the greatest threat that the planet has ever seen.
And how?
And how? The republican party, especially at the state level, is engaging in a Taliban like fight against science and the scientific method. In two areas they are particularly short sighted, evolution and global warming. Religious belief and corporate propaganda work their magic and even control education, see first link. If this were another nation the same people would be condemning them. Why is it OK here?
How The Koch Brothers Corrupted Florida State University 163 Other Colleges Young Turks Informed Comment
Your republican congressman engaging a scientist below. And you wonder why America scores low in math and science, wonder no more.
"The rise of conservative politics in postwar America is one of the great puzzles of American political history. For much of the period that followed the end of World War II, conservative ideas about the primacy of the free market, and the dangers of too-powerful labor unions, government regulation, and an activist, interventionist state seemed to have been thoroughly rejected by most intellectual and political elites. Scholars and politicians alike dismissed those who adhered to such faiths as a "radical right," for whom to quote the Columbia University historian Richard Hofstadter politics "becomes an arena into which the wildest fancies are projected, the most paranoid suspicions, the most absurd superstitions, the most bizarre apocalyptic fantasies." How, then, did such ideas move from their marginal position in the middle years of the twentieth century to become the reigning politics of the country by the century's end?" Kim Phillips-Fein ('Invisible Hands')
I believe it was the onset of the Teaparty. I mean these people are scary stupid.
The debate is over. We have a climate change problem. We can do something about it. You will join the effort or you won't.
The debate is over.
And how? The republican party, especially at the state level, is engaging in a Taliban like fight against science and the scientific method. In two areas they are particularly short sighted, evolution and global warming. Religious belief and corporate propaganda work their magic and even control education, see first link. If this were another nation the same people would be condemning them. Why is it OK here?
How The Koch Brothers Corrupted Florida State University 163 Other Colleges Young Turks Informed Comment
Your republican congressman engaging a scientist below. And you wonder why America scores low in math and science, wonder no more.
"The rise of conservative politics in postwar America is one of the great puzzles of American political history. For much of the period that followed the end of World War II, conservative ideas about the primacy of the free market, and the dangers of too-powerful labor unions, government regulation, and an activist, interventionist state seemed to have been thoroughly rejected by most intellectual and political elites. Scholars and politicians alike dismissed those who adhered to such faiths as a "radical right," for whom to quote the Columbia University historian Richard Hofstadter politics "becomes an arena into which the wildest fancies are projected, the most paranoid suspicions, the most absurd superstitions, the most bizarre apocalyptic fantasies." How, then, did such ideas move from their marginal position in the middle years of the twentieth century to become the reigning politics of the country by the century's end?" Kim Phillips-Fein ('Invisible Hands')
The debate is over. We have a climate change problem. We can do something about it. You will join the effort or you won't.
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Again, you are positing theories that have absolutely no basis in scientific evidence. We have had massive die-offs on coral reefs and coastal flooding for centuries. The warming and cooling in the ocean is what creates a convection current. Without that, nothing can live in the ocean.
The debate is over. We have a climate change problem. We can do something about it. You will join the effort or you won't.
The debate is far from over, we do not have a climate change problem and if we did, there would be little humans could do about it. No one is joining your effort, in case you hadn't noticed. You are quickly becoming a laughing stock and a nutter. If you don't cut this nonsense you'll run the risk of being typecast. You'll forever be known in the company of the flat-earthers and tin-foil hat wearers.
And how? The republican party, especially at the state level, is engaging in a Taliban like fight against science and the scientific method. In two areas they are particularly short sighted, evolution and global warming. Religious belief and corporate propaganda work their magic and even control education, see first link. If this were another nation the same people would be condemning them. Why is it OK here?
How The Koch Brothers Corrupted Florida State University 163 Other Colleges Young Turks Informed Comment
Your republican congressman engaging a scientist below. And you wonder why America scores low in math and science, wonder no more.
"The rise of conservative politics in postwar America is one of the great puzzles of American political history. For much of the period that followed the end of World War II, conservative ideas about the primacy of the free market, and the dangers of too-powerful labor unions, government regulation, and an activist, interventionist state seemed to have been thoroughly rejected by most intellectual and political elites. Scholars and politicians alike dismissed those who adhered to such faiths as a "radical right," for whom to quote the Columbia University historian Richard Hofstadter politics "becomes an arena into which the wildest fancies are projected, the most paranoid suspicions, the most absurd superstitions, the most bizarre apocalyptic fantasies." How, then, did such ideas move from their marginal position in the middle years of the twentieth century to become the reigning politics of the country by the century's end?" Kim Phillips-Fein ('Invisible Hands')
And how? The republican party, especially at the state level, is engaging in a Taliban like fight against science and the scientific method. In two areas they are particularly short sighted, evolution and global warming. Religious belief and corporate propaganda work their magic and even control education, see first link. If this were another nation the same people would be condemning them. Why is it OK here?
How The Koch Brothers Corrupted Florida State University 163 Other Colleges Young Turks Informed Comment
Your republican congressman engaging a scientist below. And you wonder why America scores low in math and science, wonder no more.
"The rise of conservative politics in postwar America is one of the great puzzles of American political history. For much of the period that followed the end of World War II, conservative ideas about the primacy of the free market, and the dangers of too-powerful labor unions, government regulation, and an activist, interventionist state seemed to have been thoroughly rejected by most intellectual and political elites. Scholars and politicians alike dismissed those who adhered to such faiths as a "radical right," for whom to quote the Columbia University historian Richard Hofstadter politics "becomes an arena into which the wildest fancies are projected, the most paranoid suspicions, the most absurd superstitions, the most bizarre apocalyptic fantasies." How, then, did such ideas move from their marginal position in the middle years of the twentieth century to become the reigning politics of the country by the century's end?" Kim Phillips-Fein ('Invisible Hands')
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Again, you are positing theories that have absolutely no basis in scientific evidence. We have had massive die-offs on coral reefs and coastal flooding for centuries. The warming and cooling in the ocean is what creates a convection current. Without that, nothing can live in the ocean.
95% of climate scientist think it's getting warmer too fast and that humans are responsible.
Now, I know you guys don't WANT it to be true. You don't want evolution to be true. You want to pretend socialized medicine and gun control don't work. (Just pretend Japan and Europe don't exist.)
The debate is over. We have a climate change problem. We can do something about it. You will join the effort or you won't.
The debate is far from over, we do not have a climate change problem and if we did, there would be little humans could do about it. No one is joining your effort, in case you hadn't noticed. You are quickly becoming a laughing stock and a nutter. If you don't cut this nonsense you'll run the risk of being typecast. You'll forever be known in the company of the flat-earthers and tin-foil hat wearers.
You got the wrong guy, dipshit. I'm just telling you like it is. I have very little, if any, respect for you. So...I'm not really concerned with what you think. But...I'm no environmentalist and I'm no climate activist. I just have an interest in facts.
The debate is over.
