When Did The Republican Party Become Stupid?

[eagle1462010]

Whether the debate is over or not is a personal question. Whether you BELIEVE that it's all bullshit, or BELIEVE that the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor, if you BELIEVE, the debate is over for you.

The only folks for whom the debate is not over are the undecideds.
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Whether or not Jon Stewart has any credibility as a 'journalist' is moot - the people who voted for the congressmen featured in the clips in the O/P video should be embarrassed. At best, those committee members are playing stupid to advance an agenda, at worse, they really are that stupid.

Whether or not the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor is also moot, ass-u-me-ing one is not stupid enough to believe that pollution in the air is something we should just have to live (and die) with.

Did we learn NOTHING from the successful clean-up imposed on industry in the 1970's?
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Sorry Joe,

I'm done trying to mollify those who will not accept the science. I am not discussing my beliefs here. I am discussing the science. Those who claim that climate change is not occurring and that it isn't a problem....do not get to claim equal standing with me. They are to be mocked.

The debate is over.

The debate is never over.............You position is a typical leftist position........you either agree with me or your wrong.............even when data goes against you..........even as the GW crowd is proven to falsify data to keep your cult going.........................

It's never over...........I oppose your position because your policies eventually hose the little people in this country by your ideals on this subject.

We are opposed..............I refuse to back down and you do as well...............Grid lock...........and a Lame Duck POTUS in office.

 

[eagle1462010]

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Tell me about the effect of the Kemper Power plant to utility rates and get back to me.

Tell me about the costs of installing EPA mandated devices and get back to me.

A lot of those devices pay for themselves. For instance, converting from a old HVAC system to a new high efficiency one will save $900.00 a year in utilities.

And how much will it cost to replace every coal burner in this country and replace with Gas Turbines and other forms of Electrical power generation....................We still get our power at about 40% coal. and Industry that you want to die off...........

Irregardless of the costs of doing so............Your THE ONE IN OFFICE has openly stated that rates would necessarily SKY ROCKET..........which is the END RESULT OF YOUR AGENDA................

We are OPPOSED.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Whether the debate is over or not is a personal question. Whether you BELIEVE that it's all bullshit, or BELIEVE that the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor, if you BELIEVE, the debate is over for you.

The only folks for whom the debate is not over are the undecideds.
______________

Whether or not Jon Stewart has any credibility as a 'journalist' is moot - the people who voted for the congressmen featured in the clips in the O/P video should be embarrassed. At best, those committee members are playing stupid to advance an agenda, at worse, they really are that stupid.

Whether or not the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor is also moot, ass-u-me-ing one is not stupid enough to believe that pollution in the air is something we should just have to live (and die) with.

Did we learn NOTHING from the successful clean-up imposed on industry in the 1970's?
​

Sorry Joe,

I'm done trying to mollify those who will not accept the science. I am not discussing my beliefs here. I am discussing the science. Those who claim that climate change is not occurring and that it isn't a problem....do not get to claim equal standing with me. They are to be mocked.

The debate is over.

The debate is never over.............You position is a typical leftist position........you either agree with me or your wrong.............even when data goes against you..........even as the GW crowd is proven to falsify data to keep your cult going.........................

It's never over...........I oppose your position because your policies eventually hose the little people in this country by your ideals on this subject.

We are opposed..............I refuse to back down and you do as well...............Grid lock...........and a Lame Duck POTUS in office.

What policies? I haven't discussed a single policy here. I have said that there is still a debate to be had concerning HOW to address the problem. But...you failed to see that, I suppose.

The debate regarding the existence of a problem is over. Period.

If you can't come to terns with that fact, you won't be useful at all when it comes to solving it. That is why I will mock you.

 

[eagle1462010]

Both parties are "stupid." That is clear to anyone capable of thinking.

Yet many on the left only identify and condemn stupidity by the R party...now that is really stupid.

This fails as an attempt to deflect.


The thread is about the ignorance and stupidity that is unique to the right:


'...for whom...politics "becomes an arena into which the wildest fancies are projected, the most paranoid suspicions, the most absurd superstitions, the most bizarre apocalyptic fantasies."'


We see examples of this from the right on this very forum.


So no, the two parties are not the same.

The thread is about the ignorance of stupidity of the left on it's current crusade to kill fossil fuels who IGNORE THE ECONOMIC effects of these policies..........................

When rates go up............and the poor have trouble paying for their air conditioning and heat............you'll say OH WELL..........we are SAVING THE PLANET................ too bad you have no A/C when it's 100 outside.............

Or then you will save them via subsidies to keep the bills lower to save them from your policies that caused it in the first place.

 

[eagle1462010]

Whether the debate is over or not is a personal question. Whether you BELIEVE that it's all bullshit, or BELIEVE that the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor, if you BELIEVE, the debate is over for you.

The only folks for whom the debate is not over are the undecideds.
______________

Whether or not Jon Stewart has any credibility as a 'journalist' is moot - the people who voted for the congressmen featured in the clips in the O/P video should be embarrassed. At best, those committee members are playing stupid to advance an agenda, at worse, they really are that stupid.

Whether or not the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor is also moot, ass-u-me-ing one is not stupid enough to believe that pollution in the air is something we should just have to live (and die) with.

Did we learn NOTHING from the successful clean-up imposed on industry in the 1970's?
​

Sorry Joe,

I'm done trying to mollify those who will not accept the science. I am not discussing my beliefs here. I am discussing the science. Those who claim that climate change is not occurring and that it isn't a problem....do not get to claim equal standing with me. They are to be mocked.

The debate is over.

The debate is never over.............You position is a typical leftist position........you either agree with me or your wrong.............even when data goes against you..........even as the GW crowd is proven to falsify data to keep your cult going.........................

It's never over...........I oppose your position because your policies eventually hose the little people in this country by your ideals on this subject.

We are opposed..............I refuse to back down and you do as well...............Grid lock...........and a Lame Duck POTUS in office.

What policies? I haven't discussed a single policy here. I have said that there is still a debate to be had concerning HOW to address the problem. But...you failed to see that, I suppose.

The debate regarding the existence of a problem is over. Period.

If you can't come to terns with that fact, you won't be useful at all when it comes to solving it. That is why I will mock you.

Your economic Stupidity is why I'll mock you.....Your policy hurts the poor.........It raises rates.........Your lack of caring for what happens to the people you claim to support by your Stupid policies is why I'll Mock you as well.

That's Gridlock buddy.......and part of the Checks and Balances of the Constitution.....We are opposed...........PERIOD.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Whether the debate is over or not is a personal question. Whether you BELIEVE that it's all bullshit, or BELIEVE that the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor, if you BELIEVE, the debate is over for you.

The only folks for whom the debate is not over are the undecideds.
______________

Whether or not Jon Stewart has any credibility as a 'journalist' is moot - the people who voted for the congressmen featured in the clips in the O/P video should be embarrassed. At best, those committee members are playing stupid to advance an agenda, at worse, they really are that stupid.

Whether or not the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor is also moot, ass-u-ming one is not stupid enough to believe that pollution in the air is something we should just have to live (and die) with.

Did we learn NOTHING from the successful clean-up imposed on industry in the 1970's?
​

Sorry Joe,

I'm done trying to mollify those who will not accept the science. I am not discussing my beliefs here. I am discussing the science. Those who claim that climate change is not occurring and that it isn't a problem....do not get to claim equal standing with me. They are to be mocked.

The debate is over.

The debate is never over.............You position is a typical leftist position........you either agree with me or your wrong.............even when data goes against you..........even as the GW crowd is proven to falsify data to keep your cult going.........................

It's never over...........I oppose your position because your policies eventually hose the little people in this country by your ideals on this subject.

We are opposed..............I refuse to back down and you do as well...............Grid lock...........and a Lame Duck POTUS in office.

What policies? I haven't discussed a single policy here. I have said that there is still a debate to be had concerning HOW to address the problem. But...you failed to see that, I suppose.

The debate regarding the existence of a problem is over. Period.

If you can't come to terns with that fact, you won't be useful at all when it comes to solving it. That is why I will mock you.

Your economic Stupidity is why I'll mock you.....Your policy hurts the poor.........It raises rates.........Your lack of caring for what happens to the people you claim to support by your Stupid policies is why I'll Mock you as well.

That's Gridlock buddy.......and part of the Checks and Balances of the Constitution.....We are opposed...........PERIOD.

What policy?

 

[Stephanie]

We have become a nation of sheep not free thinking people anymore

when hear people spout off but the consensus of scientist says so

 

[Boss]

No, 95% of climatologists have said we are in a warming cycle. That may not even be true. Climatologists are not the only scientists who've studied this "global warming" phenomenon. A good many botanical scientists totally disagree with your "too much CO2" theories. A good many geologists have totally refuted the myth that our planet is experiencing something unordinary with change in climate. And most physicists laugh at the notion that humans could ever change what happens with regard to the atmosphere.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the theory of evolution or if it's correct. It also has nothing to do with the fact that socialized medicine and gun control do not work. The only pretenders are morons like you, who've bought into the liberal socialist propaganda to allow government to control capitalism some more.

Botanists aren't climatologists. Neither are Geologists.

And, frankly, I don't feel like having our descendants deal with the results of AGW because you don't want the rich people to be denied a Dressage Horsie.

Here's the problem. You are right, if we are going to address this, we need government to control a lot of things. The thing about it is, dumbasses like you have been conditioned to think this is a bad thing.

Again, there is other science besides climatology. I understand there are thousands of climatologists awaing a sweet government grant, no need to bring them into this or call them rich people. Your kids are going to laugh at what an utter buffoon you were.

The government should only control what it is allowed to control in the constitution. Any other government control is tyranny and usurps freedom. So, yes, government control in this area is a bad thing.

We don't need to address this, there is nothing to address. It is a 100% charlatan liberal ruse to grab power from capitalists. Plain and simple, that's ALL this is. There is no threat from man-made greenhouse gas. There is no alarming catastrophe in the making. If Earth's natural cycles want to produce more heat or cold, they will, and there isn't a damn thing any one can do about it.

 

[eagle1462010]

Whether the debate is over or not is a personal question. Whether you BELIEVE that it's all bullshit, or BELIEVE that the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor, if you BELIEVE, the debate is over for you.

The only folks for whom the debate is not over are the undecideds.
______________

Whether or not Jon Stewart has any credibility as a 'journalist' is moot - the people who voted for the congressmen featured in the clips in the O/P video should be embarrassed. At best, those committee members are playing stupid to advance an agenda, at worse, they really are that stupid.

Whether or not the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor is also moot, ass-u-ming one is not stupid enough to believe that pollution in the air is something we should just have to live (and die) with.

Did we learn NOTHING from the successful clean-up imposed on industry in the 1970's?
​

Sorry Joe,

I'm done trying to mollify those who will not accept the science. I am not discussing my beliefs here. I am discussing the science. Those who claim that climate change is not occurring and that it isn't a problem....do not get to claim equal standing with me. They are to be mocked.

The debate is over.

The debate is never over.............You position is a typical leftist position........you either agree with me or your wrong.............even when data goes against you..........even as the GW crowd is proven to falsify data to keep your cult going.........................

It's never over...........I oppose your position because your policies eventually hose the little people in this country by your ideals on this subject.

We are opposed..............I refuse to back down and you do as well...............Grid lock...........and a Lame Duck POTUS in office.

What policies? I haven't discussed a single policy here. I have said that there is still a debate to be had concerning HOW to address the problem. But...you failed to see that, I suppose.

The debate regarding the existence of a problem is over. Period.

If you can't come to terns with that fact, you won't be useful at all when it comes to solving it. That is why I will mock you.

Your economic Stupidity is why I'll mock you.....Your policy hurts the poor.........It raises rates.........Your lack of caring for what happens to the people you claim to support by your Stupid policies is why I'll Mock you as well.

That's Gridlock buddy.......and part of the Checks and Balances of the Constitution.....We are opposed...........PERIOD.

What policy?

Ten Thousand Commandments An Annual Snapshot of the Federal Regulatory State Competitive Enterprise Institute

Take your dang pic........Stop saying their isn't back door EPA regs to attack industry like Coal. The Administration has openly stated it wants it gone, so at least own up to the issue that they want Coal gone............

And while your at it, give the cost of doing so.............

And if you say that policy will not raise the price of utilities as it has done so in Europe, then I'll call you a LIAR..........

 

[LoneLaugher]

Sorry Joe,

I'm done trying to mollify those who will not accept the science. I am not discussing my beliefs here. I am discussing the science. Those who claim that climate change is not occurring and that it isn't a problem....do not get to claim equal standing with me. They are to be mocked.

The debate is over.

The debate is never over.............You position is a typical leftist position........you either agree with me or your wrong.............even when data goes against you..........even as the GW crowd is proven to falsify data to keep your cult going.........................

It's never over...........I oppose your position because your policies eventually hose the little people in this country by your ideals on this subject.

We are opposed..............I refuse to back down and you do as well...............Grid lock...........and a Lame Duck POTUS in office.

What policies? I haven't discussed a single policy here. I have said that there is still a debate to be had concerning HOW to address the problem. But...you failed to see that, I suppose.

The debate regarding the existence of a problem is over. Period.

If you can't come to terns with that fact, you won't be useful at all when it comes to solving it. That is why I will mock you.

Your economic Stupidity is why I'll mock you.....Your policy hurts the poor.........It raises rates.........Your lack of caring for what happens to the people you claim to support by your Stupid policies is why I'll Mock you as well.

That's Gridlock buddy.......and part of the Checks and Balances of the Constitution.....We are opposed...........PERIOD.

What policy?

Ten Thousand Commandments An Annual Snapshot of the Federal Regulatory State Competitive Enterprise Institute

Take your dang pic........Stop saying their isn't back door EPA regs to attack industry like Coal. The Administration has openly stated it wants it gone, so at least own up to the issue that they want Coal gone............

And while your at it, give the cost of doing so.............

And if you say that policy will not raise the price of utilities as it has done so in Europe, then I'll call you a LIAR..........

It is pointless to discuss policies aimed at solving the climate change problem with you UNTIL YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE PROBLEM EXISTS.

Do you understand this? I've not expressed support for or even suggested any policy. We are still at the point of getting idiots to acknowledge the problem.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Whether the debate is over or not is a personal question. Whether you BELIEVE that it's all bullshit, or BELIEVE that the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor, if you BELIEVE, the debate is over for you.

The only folks for whom the debate is not over are the undecideds.
______________

Whether or not Jon Stewart has any credibility as a 'journalist' is moot - the people who voted for the congressmen featured in the clips in the O/P video should be embarrassed. At best, those committee members are playing stupid to advance an agenda, at worse, they really are that stupid.

Whether or not the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor is also moot, ass-u-me-ing one is not stupid enough to believe that pollution in the air is something we should just have to live (and die) with.

Did we learn NOTHING from the successful clean-up imposed on industry in the 1970's?
​

Sorry Joe,

I'm done trying to mollify those who will not accept the science. I am not discussing my beliefs here. I am discussing the science. Those who claim that climate change is not occurring and that it isn't a problem....do not get to claim equal standing with me. They are to be mocked.

The debate is over.

The debate is never over.............You position is a typical leftist position........you either agree with me or your wrong.............even when data goes against you..........even as the GW crowd is proven to falsify data to keep your cult going.........................

It's never over...........I oppose your position because your policies eventually hose the little people in this country by your ideals on this subject.

We are opposed..............I refuse to back down and you do as well...............Grid lock...........and a Lame Duck POTUS in office.

Can we at least agree that unfettered pollution is a bad thing?

Whether or not global warming is real or imagined, choking on the smoke pumped in to the air by an unregulated coal burning plant is NOT good for anyone's economy, sans those who profit from the operation of the plant.

 

[Boss]

A lot of those devices pay for themselves. For instance, converting from a old HVAC system to a new high efficiency one will save $900.00 a year in utilities.

Hey, I believe in capitalism baby. If the device can save $900 a year, there is a market. People like to save, especially on utilities. And capitalists LOVE to save on utilities because that helps the bottom line, you see.

A friend of mine up north worked out an independent energy system. It totally allows you to live off the grid and cost less than ($5k per 1000sf.) It uses solar, wind and biofuel. Provides air and heat system, hot water system, standard electric box and outlets in every room and interior/exterior lighting. He sold the crap out of these things until the State banned living off the grid.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Whether the debate is over or not is a personal question. Whether you BELIEVE that it's all bullshit, or BELIEVE that the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor, if you BELIEVE, the debate is over for you.

The only folks for whom the debate is not over are the undecideds.
______________

Whether or not Jon Stewart has any credibility as a 'journalist' is moot - the people who voted for the congressmen featured in the clips in the O/P video should be embarrassed. At best, those committee members are playing stupid to advance an agenda, at worse, they really are that stupid.

Whether or not the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor is also moot, ass-u-me-ing one is not stupid enough to believe that pollution in the air is something we should just have to live (and die) with.

Did we learn NOTHING from the successful clean-up imposed on industry in the 1970's?
​

Sorry Joe,

I'm done trying to mollify those who will not accept the science. I am not discussing my beliefs here. I am discussing the science. Those who claim that climate change is not occurring and that it isn't a problem....do not get to claim equal standing with me. They are to be mocked.

The debate is over.

The debate is never over.............You position is a typical leftist position........you either agree with me or your wrong.............even when data goes against you..........even as the GW crowd is proven to falsify data to keep your cult going.........................

It's never over...........I oppose your position because your policies eventually hose the little people in this country by your ideals on this subject.

We are opposed..............I refuse to back down and you do as well...............Grid lock...........and a Lame Duck POTUS in office.

Can we at least agree that unfettered pollution is a bad thing?

Whether or not global warming is real or imagined, choking on the smoke pumped in to the air by an unregulated coal burning plant is NOT good for anyone's economy, sans those who profit from the operation of the plant.

Clearly, I agree. Cleaning our shit up should be reason enough to begin taking serious steps in the right direction. You'd think even the most ardent nutter would support measures to reduce pollution.

But....by saying "Whether or not global warming is real or imagined", you are simply giving the denier too much respect. It's real.....and this is no longer in question.

 

[JoeB131]

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Again, there is other science besides climatology. I understand there are thousands of climatologists awaing a sweet government grant, no need to bring them into this or call them rich people. Your kids are going to laugh at what an utter buffoon you were.

Uh, guy, other sciences aren't studying climate. Climatologists are.

And trust me, if Climatologists COULD be bought, the Koch brothers would have bought them a long time ago.

[
The government should only control what it is allowed to control in the constitution. Any other government control is tyranny and usurps freedom. So, yes, government control in this area is a bad thing.

Again, guy, i live in the 21st Century, I'm not interested in 18th century government.

[
We don't need to address this, there is nothing to address. It is a 100% charlatan liberal ruse to grab power from capitalists. Plain and simple, that's ALL this is. There is no threat from man-made greenhouse gas. There is no alarming catastrophe in the making. If Earth's natural cycles want to produce more heat or cold, they will, and there isn't a damn thing any one can do about it.

In short, Science might get in the way of your greed, so you want to ignore the science.

Kind of like the Christian who ignores the evidence for evolution because it disproves God.

I can see in my own 52 years how the climate has gotten warmer. I remember how brutal the winters in Chicago were in the 1970's and how mild they are in the "teens".

 

[JoeB131]

A lot of those devices pay for themselves. For instance, converting from a old HVAC system to a new high efficiency one will save $900.00 a year in utilities.

Hey, I believe in capitalism baby. If the device can save $900 a year, there is a market. People like to save, especially on utilities. And capitalists LOVE to save on utilities because that helps the bottom line, you see.

A friend of mine up north worked out an independent energy system. It totally allows you to live off the grid and cost less than ($5k per 1000sf.) It uses solar, wind and biofuel. Provides air and heat system, hot water system, standard electric box and outlets in every room and interior/exterior lighting. He sold the crap out of these things until the State banned living off the grid.

Wonderful.

BUt you know what, Capitalism isn't a holy system. Sometimes you just do things because they are the right thing to do, even if you don't get a personal gain out of it.

 

[eagle1462010]

Whether the debate is over or not is a personal question. Whether you BELIEVE that it's all bullshit, or BELIEVE that the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor, if you BELIEVE, the debate is over for you.

The only folks for whom the debate is not over are the undecideds.
______________

Whether or not Jon Stewart has any credibility as a 'journalist' is moot - the people who voted for the congressmen featured in the clips in the O/P video should be embarrassed. At best, those committee members are playing stupid to advance an agenda, at worse, they really are that stupid.

Whether or not the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor is also moot, ass-u-me-ing one is not stupid enough to believe that pollution in the air is something we should just have to live (and die) with.

Did we learn NOTHING from the successful clean-up imposed on industry in the 1970's?
​

Sorry Joe,

I'm done trying to mollify those who will not accept the science. I am not discussing my beliefs here. I am discussing the science. Those who claim that climate change is not occurring and that it isn't a problem....do not get to claim equal standing with me. They are to be mocked.

The debate is over.

The debate is never over.............You position is a typical leftist position........you either agree with me or your wrong.............even when data goes against you..........even as the GW crowd is proven to falsify data to keep your cult going.........................

It's never over...........I oppose your position because your policies eventually hose the little people in this country by your ideals on this subject.

We are opposed..............I refuse to back down and you do as well...............Grid lock...........and a Lame Duck POTUS in office.

Can we at least agree that unfettered pollution is a bad thing?

Whether or not global warming is real or imagined, choking on the smoke pumped in to the air by an unregulated coal burning plant is NOT good for anyone's economy, sans those who profit from the operation of the plant.

We have been adding processes to limit the amount of pollution to address that problem for decades. Billions have already been spent to limit those emissions. Scrubbers and Precipitators have been installed at the cost of Billions to limit emissions in ppms..............even with that they now want all coal burners gone completely.

That has severe economic consequences on the eventual cost of power.

 

[Boss]

Whether the debate is over or not is a personal question. Whether you BELIEVE that it's all bullshit, or BELIEVE that the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor, if you BELIEVE, the debate is over for you.

The only folks for whom the debate is not over are the undecideds.
______________

Whether or not Jon Stewart has any credibility as a 'journalist' is moot - the people who voted for the congressmen featured in the clips in the O/P video should be embarrassed. At best, those committee members are playing stupid to advance an agenda, at worse, they really are that stupid.

Whether or not the planet is warming and human industry is a contributing factor is also moot, ass-u-me-ing one is not stupid enough to believe that pollution in the air is something we should just have to live (and die) with.

Did we learn NOTHING from the successful clean-up imposed on industry in the 1970's?
​

Sorry Joe,

I'm done trying to mollify those who will not accept the science. I am not discussing my beliefs here. I am discussing the science. Those who claim that climate change is not occurring and that it isn't a problem....do not get to claim equal standing with me. They are to be mocked.

The debate is over.

The debate is never over.............You position is a typical leftist position........you either agree with me or your wrong.............even when data goes against you..........even as the GW crowd is proven to falsify data to keep your cult going.........................

It's never over...........I oppose your position because your policies eventually hose the little people in this country by your ideals on this subject.

We are opposed..............I refuse to back down and you do as well...............Grid lock...........and a Lame Duck POTUS in office.

Can we at least agree that unfettered pollution is a bad thing?

Whether or not global warming is real or imagined, choking on the smoke pumped in to the air by an unregulated coal burning plant is NOT good for anyone's economy, sans those who profit from the operation of the plant.

Is there somewhere people are choking on smoke from coal? Didn't we already have 1972? Seems like we did, but I am not sure anymore, it's almost as if we've jumped back into the 1850s. Plants with any kind of emissions, including coal burning, are subject to a litany of EPA regulations, reporting, compliance, inspections, etc. Pursuant to Congressional order under the 1972 Clean Air Act and various other supporting environmental legislation. So all these evil plants spitting out smoke and choking people to make a buck... they don't exist.

I am very much an environmentally conscious person. I don't feel the need to reel off a long list of things I do to help the environment but there are plenty. I'm all for that. I am a conservative and that means conservationist to be perfectly literal. I think everyone should care about the environment, it is our civic duty to protect it. I just don't feel that is government's role. It's certainly not government's role if government is holding court with activist liberal front groups to shake down big business.

 

[Boss]

Wonderful.

BUt you know what, Capitalism isn't a holy system. Sometimes you just do things because they are the right thing to do, even if you don't get a personal gain out of it.

Nonsense. Even when you "do the right thing" you get a personal gain out of it. Your conscious is eased knowing you did the right thing. That's what makes this propaganda you've been listening to so dangerous. It's giving you this personal satisfaction of knowing you're doing the right thing, you're here daily to beat down those mean ol' conservatives all funded by the Koch Brothers.

Capitalism isn't a holy system, but it should be. We should worship something so awesome. No other system has produced as many millionaires and billionaires in the history of man.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

The debate is over....

"I'm not a scientists, and i haven't done shit to research the subject, but I can listen to people and therefore, the debate is over."




That is some serious simpleton, goofball shit right there.

 

[Boss]

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Again, there is other science besides climatology. I understand there are thousands of climatologists awaing a sweet government grant, no need to bring them into this or call them rich people. Your kids are going to laugh at what an utter buffoon you were.

Uh, guy, other sciences aren't studying climate. Climatologists are.

And trust me, if Climatologists COULD be bought, the Koch brothers would have bought them a long time ago.

[
The government should only control what it is allowed to control in the constitution. Any other government control is tyranny and usurps freedom. So, yes, government control in this area is a bad thing.

Again, guy, i live in the 21st Century, I'm not interested in 18th century government.

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We don't need to address this, there is nothing to address. It is a 100% charlatan liberal ruse to grab power from capitalists. Plain and simple, that's ALL this is. There is no threat from man-made greenhouse gas. There is no alarming catastrophe in the making. If Earth's natural cycles want to produce more heat or cold, they will, and there isn't a damn thing any one can do about it.

In short, Science might get in the way of your greed, so you want to ignore the science.

Kind of like the Christian who ignores the evidence for evolution because it disproves God.

I can see in my own 52 years how the climate has gotten warmer. I remember how brutal the winters in Chicago were in the 1970's and how mild they are in the "teens".

And trust me, if Climatologists COULD be bought, the Koch brothers would have bought them a long time ago.
Ahh, so those climatologists who were bought and produced the fraudulent data and hockey stick graph, those were the only dishonorable climatologists, and the rest of them are incapable of being bought off? And I suppose, all other disciplines of science are being bought off, since they don't seem to be towing the line for the climatologists?

Again, guy, i live in the 21st Century, I'm not interested in 18th century government.
Oh okay, well what you'll need to do then is have a revolt. See, we have a government which was established in the 18th century and a Constitution. To have something else, you need to stage a coup and overthrow the existing government, then you can set up a 21st century government.

In short, Science might get in the way of your greed, so you want to ignore the science.
Are you kidding? Nothing gets in the way of my greed. But this isn't about me. It's about you, and your liberal charlatans who want to shake down big business. Shut the hell up with the science crap, there is no science, it's all made up, trumped up, exaggerated paranoia. Our fucking globe goes through dramatic changes and shifts in temperatures all the time.

Kind of like the Christian who ignores the evidence for evolution because it disproves God.
Great.. you all are like a fucking CULT! Evolution in NO WAY disproves God. MORON!