What's the point of a govenor signing a bill into law that's already against the federal law????

[Wyatt earp]

I don't get this, are Californians so brain dead they already don't know it's against the 1968 federal gun law??.

What is this brownie points for uniformed California voters??.


California governor signs bill to raise age requirement to 21 for purchase of rifles, shotguns


Other bills endorsed by Brown prohibit those with misdemeanor domestic violence convictions from owning guns




Gun Control Act of 1968 - Wikipedia

1968 gun law




It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person— (1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year; (2) is a fugitive from justice; (3) is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802)); (4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution; (5) who, being an alien— (A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or (B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 (a)(26))); (6) who [2] has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions; (7) who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his citizenship; (8) is subject to a court order that restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child, except that this paragraph shall only apply to a court order that— (A) was issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at which such person had the opportunity to participate; and (B) (i) includes a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of such intimate partner or child; or (ii) by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury; or (9) has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence




.

 

[Erinwltr]

I thought you were an advocate for states rights?

 

[Syriusly]

I don't get this, are Californians so brain dead they already don't know it's against the 1968 federal gun law??.

What is this brownie points for uniformed California voters??.


California governor signs bill to raise age requirement to 21 for purchase of rifles, shotguns


Other bills endorsed by Brown prohibit those with misdemeanor domestic violence convictions from owning guns




Gun Control Act of 1968 - Wikipedia

1968 gun law




It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person— (1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year; (2) is a fugitive from justice; (3) is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802)); (4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution; (5) who, being an alien— (A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or (B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 (a)(26))); (6) who [2] has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions; (7) who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his citizenship; (8) is subject to a court order that restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child, except that this paragraph shall only apply to a court order that— (A) was issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at which such person had the opportunity to participate; and (B) (i) includes a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of such intimate partner or child; or (ii) by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury; or (9) has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence




.

Just going by what you posted- the State law makes it illegal for someone to possess a fire arm if they have been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic abuse- the federal law makes it illegal to sell or give someone a firearm if they have been so convicted.

Significant difference.

Though- it is pretty common for state laws to be passed that virtually duplicate federal laws- such as drug possession laws.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I don't get this, are Californians so brain dead they already don't know it's against the 1968 federal gun law??.

What is this brownie points for uniformed California voters??.


California governor signs bill to raise age requirement to 21 for purchase of rifles, shotguns


Other bills endorsed by Brown prohibit those with misdemeanor domestic violence convictions from owning guns




Gun Control Act of 1968 - Wikipedia

1968 gun law




It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person— (1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year; (2) is a fugitive from justice; (3) is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802)); (4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution; (5) who, being an alien— (A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or (B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 (a)(26))); (6) who [2] has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions; (7) who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his citizenship; (8) is subject to a court order that restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child, except that this paragraph shall only apply to a court order that— (A) was issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at which such person had the opportunity to participate; and (B) (i) includes a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of such intimate partner or child; or (ii) by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury; or (9) has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence




.

Just going by what you posted- the State law makes it illegal for someone to possess a fire arm if they have been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic abuse- the federal law makes it illegal to sell or give someone a firearm if they have been so convicted.

Significant difference.

Though- it is pretty common for state laws to be passed that virtually duplicate federal laws- such as drug possession laws.

Huh, Where does it say that?

 

[Wyatt earp]

I don't get this, are Californians so brain dead they already don't know it's against the 1968 federal gun law??.

What is this brownie points for uniformed California voters??.


California governor signs bill to raise age requirement to 21 for purchase of rifles, shotguns


Other bills endorsed by Brown prohibit those with misdemeanor domestic violence convictions from owning guns




Gun Control Act of 1968 - Wikipedia

1968 gun law




It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person— (1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year; (2) is a fugitive from justice; (3) is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802)); (4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution; (5) who, being an alien— (A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or (B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 (a)(26))); (6) who [2] has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions; (7) who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his citizenship; (8) is subject to a court order that restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child, except that this paragraph shall only apply to a court order that— (A) was issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at which such person had the opportunity to participate; and (B) (i) includes a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of such intimate partner or child; or (ii) by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury; or (9) has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence




.

Just going by what you posted- the State law makes it illegal for someone to possess a fire arm if they have been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic abuse- the federal law makes it illegal to sell or give someone a firearm if they have been so convicted.

Significant difference.

Though- it is pretty common for state laws to be passed that virtually duplicate federal laws- such as drug possession laws.

Huh, Where does it say that?

Gun Rights and Domestic Violence | Ted Hess & Associates, LLC


Can my gun rights be taken away if I am convicted of a minor crime of domestic violence?
Yes! Most people know that it is a federal crime to possess a firearm if you have been convicted of a felony. However, it is also illegal to possess a firearm if you are convicted of a crime of domestic violence, even if it is only a misdemeanor. Further, you will not be able to purchase a gun if a criminal background check shows a misdemeanor domestic violence conviction.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I thought you were an advocate for states rights?

I thought you completed 1st grade math.

Which number comes first, 2 or 10?

 

[Erinwltr]

I thought you were an advocate for states rights?

I thought you completed 1st grade math.

Which number comes first, 2 or 10?

Nice edit.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

I don't get this, are Californians so brain dead they already don't know it's against the 1968 federal gun law??.

What is this brownie points for uniformed California voters??.


California governor signs bill to raise age requirement to 21 for purchase of rifles, shotguns


Other bills endorsed by Brown prohibit those with misdemeanor domestic violence convictions from owning guns




Gun Control Act of 1968 - Wikipedia

1968 gun law




It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person— (1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year; (2) is a fugitive from justice; (3) is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802)); (4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution; (5) who, being an alien— (A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or (B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 (a)(26))); (6) who [2] has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions; (7) who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his citizenship; (8) is subject to a court order that restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child, except that this paragraph shall only apply to a court order that— (A) was issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at which such person had the opportunity to participate; and (B) (i) includes a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of such intimate partner or child; or (ii) by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury; or (9) has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence




.

Now, if you want to avoid being seen as a damned fool, you just have to find the part of the federal law that says a state cannot be more stringent than the federal law.

 

[Syriusly]

I don't get this, are Californians so brain dead they already don't know it's against the 1968 federal gun law??.

What is this brownie points for uniformed California voters??.


California governor signs bill to raise age requirement to 21 for purchase of rifles, shotguns


Other bills endorsed by Brown prohibit those with misdemeanor domestic violence convictions from owning guns




Gun Control Act of 1968 - Wikipedia

1968 gun law




It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person— (1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year; (2) is a fugitive from justice; (3) is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802)); (4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution; (5) who, being an alien— (A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or (B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 (a)(26))); (6) who [2] has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions; (7) who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his citizenship; (8) is subject to a court order that restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child, except that this paragraph shall only apply to a court order that— (A) was issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at which such person had the opportunity to participate; and (B) (i) includes a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of such intimate partner or child; or (ii) by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury; or (9) has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence




.

Just going by what you posted- the State law makes it illegal for someone to possess a fire arm if they have been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic abuse- the federal law makes it illegal to sell or give someone a firearm if they have been so convicted.

Significant difference.

Though- it is pretty common for state laws to be passed that virtually duplicate federal laws- such as drug possession laws.

Huh, Where does it say that?

Right in your post
Other bills endorsed by Brown prohibit those with misdemeanor domestic violence convictions from owning guns

It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person— or (9) has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence

 

[RetiredGySgt]

I don't get this, are Californians so brain dead they already don't know it's against the 1968 federal gun law??.

What is this brownie points for uniformed California voters??.


California governor signs bill to raise age requirement to 21 for purchase of rifles, shotguns


Other bills endorsed by Brown prohibit those with misdemeanor domestic violence convictions from owning guns




Gun Control Act of 1968 - Wikipedia

1968 gun law




It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person— (1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year; (2) is a fugitive from justice; (3) is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802)); (4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution; (5) who, being an alien— (A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or (B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 (a)(26))); (6) who [2] has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions; (7) who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his citizenship; (8) is subject to a court order that restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child, except that this paragraph shall only apply to a court order that— (A) was issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at which such person had the opportunity to participate; and (B) (i) includes a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of such intimate partner or child; or (ii) by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury; or (9) has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence




.

Now, if you want to avoid being seen as a damned fool, you just have to find the part of the federal law that says a state cannot be more stringent than the federal law.

Not if they violate the Bill of Rights they can not.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I don't get this, are Californians so brain dead they already don't know it's against the 1968 federal gun law??.

What is this brownie points for uniformed California voters??.


California governor signs bill to raise age requirement to 21 for purchase of rifles, shotguns


Other bills endorsed by Brown prohibit those with misdemeanor domestic violence convictions from owning guns




Gun Control Act of 1968 - Wikipedia

1968 gun law




It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person— (1) is under indictment for, or has been convicted in any court of, a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year; (2) is a fugitive from justice; (3) is an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance (as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802)); (4) has been adjudicated as a mental defective or has been committed to any mental institution; (5) who, being an alien— (A) is illegally or unlawfully in the United States; or (B) except as provided in subsection (y)(2), has been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa (as that term is defined in section 101(a)(26) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101 (a)(26))); (6) who [2] has been discharged from the Armed Forces under dishonorable conditions; (7) who, having been a citizen of the United States, has renounced his citizenship; (8) is subject to a court order that restrains such person from harassing, stalking, or threatening an intimate partner of such person or child of such intimate partner or person, or engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child, except that this paragraph shall only apply to a court order that— (A) was issued after a hearing of which such person received actual notice, and at which such person had the opportunity to participate; and (B) (i) includes a finding that such person represents a credible threat to the physical safety of such intimate partner or child; or (ii) by its terms explicitly prohibits the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against such intimate partner or child that would reasonably be expected to cause bodily injury; or (9) has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence




.

Just going by what you posted- the State law makes it illegal for someone to possess a fire arm if they have been convicted of a misdemeanor crime of domestic abuse- the federal law makes it illegal to sell or give someone a firearm if they have been so convicted.

Significant difference.

Though- it is pretty common for state laws to be passed that virtually duplicate federal laws- such as drug possession laws.

Huh, Where does it say that?

Right in your post
Other bills endorsed by Brown prohibit those with misdemeanor domestic violence convictions from owning guns

It shall be unlawful for any person to sell or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person knowing or having reasonable cause to believe that such person— or (9) has been convicted in any court of a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence

It's the same thing