What's the plan for Rational Republicans?

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  1. N4mddissent
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    I'm interested in hearing from some of the rational conservatives here. It's no secret that I hang to the left, but I also believe that competition is good. And as long as the Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, anti-intellectual, irrationalist, and/or theocractic fringe are the movers and shakers of the Republican party, I can't see them as a viable alternative to the Democratic party.

    So my question is to the more rational conservatives who I recognize are present here and in the general public. The conservatives who are not anti-evolution, obsessed with abortion, spouting over-the-top conspiracy theories, and who can debate on the merits of an idea rather than make-up patently false assertions are my target.

    What comes next for you and the Republican party? Do you have any ideas how to regain control? Do you think the GOP should be conceded and another party become home for rational conservatives? What if the Democratic party officially split into Conservative Democrats and Liberal Democrats? (which seems possible these days). Would any of you consider joining a separate Conservative Democrat Party? Should you try to make the Libertarian party a viable national party?

    I'm asking with sincerity. I consider it to my advantage if rational people control the opposition. After all, I don't like to think that if the party I generally support loses, then the country could have a Sarah Palin as president. I may frequently support the Democrat party, but I don't appreciate feeling like I have to support them because the alternative is so out of touch.
     
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    You ought to try listenng to Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh instead of forming your opinions based on what CNN says.

    The path to victory is the same as it was in 1980, 1984, and 1994: small limited government, lower and simplified taxes, vigorous foreign policy. If they get back on that message they will win elections.
    But if the GOP sounds only marginally competent they will still beat the tar out of the Democrats, who have welched on every promise they made in the last 2 years.
     
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    I used to be a republican, right up until they forced the RINO mclame and Palin on me as my only choice. I'm fed up. Fed up completely with the two party system. It's FAILED us so far, and we need something different. So I registered as an independent, and that's the way I'll vote from now on. I'll vote for, or write in, whoever best represents my ideology.
     
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    [SIZE=+1]Pimp My GOP: How The GOP Can Become Relevant Again[/SIZE]

    Even Grumpy McCain says they need a makeover

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    1. Oust the Puppets Who Think They Are Masters
    McCain won the South Carolina primary. The talk jocks can't even deliver South Carolina!

    4. Haters Never Prosper (Except in real life)
    Enough said. Start making actual plans instead of just jeering at what the Dems are doing. And celebrating that we lost the 2016 Olympic bid is just bad form.
     
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    Rational republicans have avatars like the Rabbi

    We are looking at a contradiction in terms
     
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    Cause the government sure get smaller in 1980, 1984, and 1994, right?

    Of course not. The government has NEVER gotten smaller. It has only ever gotten bigger.

    So if the GOP ran on smaller government in 80, 84, and 94 - aren't they the ones who've welched on every promise they made in the last 30 years?
     
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    Fuck you, eat shit, and die.
    Thanks for playing.
     
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    The "conservative" GOP?
    Crackpots, rightists, and wingers

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    I suppose it's only through force of habit that we still use the phrase, "right-wing Republicans," which, like "unsolved mystery" or "free gift," is a tautological offense against our mother tongue - a distinctive distinction without a different difference. I mean, when was the last time you heard someone refer to a "left-wing socialist"? Once upon a time, the "right-wing" portion of "right-wing Republicans" did have a necessary adjectival meaning. It identified right-wing Republicans, as well as right-wing Republicans, in the unmistakable sense that those chaps were indeed but one wing of the party, and they were to the right of the internal others. That was a time when we occasionally spoke of liberal Republicans, or, with far more frequency, of moderate Republicans. But those species, as you know, are long since virtually extinct; they went the way of the hula hoop and the shiny metallic grille and the single-blade safety razor. They suffered a sustained assault of brutal ideological cleansing; they are, pretty much, no more. There are only the right wingers, which, as competitive slaughter would have it, means they're no "wing" at all. Republicans are just righties, radically rotten to the core.
     
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    Thank you for exhibiting the extent of rational debate in which you engage in the same thread you defend Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh. You demonstrate the problems in the current GOP far more elegantly than I could explain.
     
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    Unfortunately for all, more and more it seems that the GOP won't need any plan - just sit back and watch BHO and Congress crash on their own. All lose out.
     

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