What's the difference between the 13 indicted Russians and the millions of anti-Hillary posters?

[Zander]

Mueller chose his targets because he knows they will never appear in court, never contest the charges, and cannot be arrested or extradited as Russian citizens.

He's covering his ass........

I dont know.

Now he has a set of criminal charges that is foundational to other conspiracy charges.

This aint over yet folks.

Mueller's indictments are as weak as a kitten.

If you rely upon Mueller's "logic" , speaking out about American politics on the internet now requires a foreign citizen to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act?? and list their source and expenditure of funding to the Federal Election Commission?



That dog won't hunt.

 

[paperview]

According the Mueller, these Russian internet trolls are guilty of crimes because ....they are foreign citizens who tried to influence an election,failed to register as foreign agents. failed to disclose their funding to the FEC.

Guess what? Christopher Steele was a foreign citizen who : tried to influence an election, and failed to register as foreign agent, failed to disclose his funding to SEC. When are the charges going to be filed against him?

Who paid Christopher Steele? The DNC, The hiLIARy Campaign. Fusion GPS. That makes them criminals too. Let the indictments fly.

America was attacked by a hostile foreign government, and all you care about is protecting the attack, future attacks, and that hostile foreign government.

Nice going.

 

[Zander]

According the Mueller, these Russian internet trolls are guilty of crimes because ....they are foreign citizens who tried to influence an election,failed to register as foreign agents. failed to disclose their funding to the FEC.

Guess what? Christopher Steele was a foreign citizen who : tried to influence an election, and failed to register as foreign agent, failed to disclose his funding to SEC. When are the charges going to be filed against him?

Who paid Christopher Steele? The DNC, The hiLIARy Campaign. Fusion GPS. That makes them criminals too. Let the indictments fly.

America was attacked by a hostile foreign government, and all you care about is protecting the attack, future attacks, and that hostile foreign government.

Nice going.

You poor hysterical ninny! I feel bad for you. Were you influenced by those "russian internet trolls"? Poor thing......



According to Mueller, we have "foreign agents" violating the law right here on this board. Where are your papers? Did you register with the FEC?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Are you telling me 13 guys named Boris posting shit about Hilary on FB had any effect whatsoever on the election? LOL. You can't be serious! This is what Mueller has come up with after a year of wasting everyone's time and money? Look on any social media platform including this one. There were millions of us making anti-Hillary pro-Trump posts and these 13 jokers swung the election to Donald Trump? BWAAHAHAHAHA you retards.

Definately, crowds filling coliseums wasn't made possible by 13 Russians. Hillary sucked as a candidate.

 

[paperview]

According the Mueller, these Russian internet trolls are guilty of crimes because ....they are foreign citizens who tried to influence an election,failed to register as foreign agents. failed to disclose their funding to the FEC.

Guess what? Christopher Steele was a foreign citizen who : tried to influence an election, and failed to register as foreign agent, failed to disclose his funding to SEC. When are the charges going to be filed against him?

Who paid Christopher Steele? The DNC, The hiLIARy Campaign. Fusion GPS. That makes them criminals too. Let the indictments fly.

America was attacked by a hostile foreign government, and all you care about is protecting the attack, future attacks, and that hostile foreign government.

Nice going.

You poor hysterical ninny! I feel bad for you. Were you influenced by those "russian internet trolls"? Poor thing......



According to Mueller, we have "foreign agents" violating the law right here on this board. Where are your papers? Did you register with the FEC?

Confirmed. 99% of all Trump Humpers are fucked in the head.

 

[Zander]

According the Mueller, these Russian internet trolls are guilty of crimes because ....they are foreign citizens who tried to influence an election,failed to register as foreign agents. failed to disclose their funding to the FEC.

Guess what? Christopher Steele was a foreign citizen who : tried to influence an election, and failed to register as foreign agent, failed to disclose his funding to SEC. When are the charges going to be filed against him?

Who paid Christopher Steele? The DNC, The hiLIARy Campaign. Fusion GPS. That makes them criminals too. Let the indictments fly.

America was attacked by a hostile foreign government, and all you care about is protecting the attack, future attacks, and that hostile foreign government.

Nice going.

You poor hysterical ninny! I feel bad for you. Were you influenced by those "russian internet trolls"? Poor thing......



According to Mueller, we have "foreign agents" violating the law right here on this board. Where are your papers? Did you register with the FEC?

Confirmed. 99% of all Trump Humpers are fucked in the head.

hiLIARy lost because she was a lousy candidate.

Sorry you are so dull and gullible.

 

[ding]

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Russians are more patriotic to America than democrats.

 

[paperview]

Russians are more patriotic to America than democrats.

America was attacked by a hostile foreign government, and all you care about is protecting the attack, future attacks, and that hostile foreign government.

Nice going. POS.

 

[petro]

My mind was made up the second the bitch announced her intention to run.
No Russians needed as she lost all on her own.

 

[Thunderbird]

Um those 13 people are accused of creating THOUSANDS of fake profiles and organizing dozens of fake rallies around the country.

The NYT says the Russians "created hundreds of social media accounts" so you are engaging in hyperbole. Do you really think these Russians have an adequate understanding of American politics? Do they even have a basic command of the English language? The whole Russian effort seems puny when compared to the pro-Hillary anti-Trump propaganda tsunami brought to us by the Hillary campaign and the corporate media.

And remember the Russians supported Black Lives Matter and Bernie Sanders too.

 

[Thunderbird]

Russians are more patriotic to America than democrats.

America was attacked by a hostile foreign government, and all you care about is protecting the attack, future attacks, and that hostile foreign government.

Nice going. POS.

You know the British also tried to influence an American presidential election. Are you outraged?

BBC NEWS | UK | Did Guardian turn Ohio to Bush?

The British effort was fumbling, and they speak English. You can imagine how inept the tiny Russian effort must have been.

 

[dannyboys]

According the Mueller, these Russian internet trolls are guilty of crimes because ....they are foreign citizens who tried to influence an election,failed to register as foreign agents. failed to disclose their funding to the FEC.

Guess what? Christopher Steele was a foreign citizen who : tried to influence an election, and failed to register as foreign agent, failed to disclose his funding to SEC. When are the charges going to be filed against him?

Who paid Christopher Steele? The DNC, The hiLIARy Campaign. Fusion GPS. That makes them criminals too. Let the indictments fly.

America was attacked by a hostile foreign government, and all you care about is protecting the attack, future attacks, and that hostile foreign government.

Nice going.

BONOBO KNEW back in 2014 the russians were screwing around and what did he do? SWEET FUCK ALL! He 100% believed Hillary would beat Trump.
So why bother pissing off the russians..........right?

 

[abu afak]

Are you telling me 13 guys named Boris posting shit about Hilary on FB had any effect whatsoever on the election? LOL. You can't be serious! This is what Mueller has come up with after a year of wasting everyone's time and money? Look on any social media platform including this one. There were millions of us making anti-Hillary pro-Trump posts and these 13 jokers swung the election to Donald Trump? BWAAHAHAHAHA you retards.

You're a Willfully Stupid and Treasonous Trumpkin willing to sell out his country for his idiotic party/leader.

Russian Influence Operation Allegedly Ran Like a Propaganda Startup
Federal indictment describes Internet Research Agency as having deep understanding how to use Silicon Valley technology to sow discord
By Robert McMillan,
Deepa Seetharaman and
Georgia Wells
Wall Street Journal - Feb. 17, 2018
Russian Influence Operation Allegedly Ran Like a Propaganda Startup

The alleged Russian campaign to manipulate the U.S. presidential election was orchestrated by what amounted to a propaganda startup, with finance and graphics departments, performance targets and a sophisticated social-media strategy designed to gain maximum attention, according to U.S. authorities.

The federal indictment issued Friday against the Internet Research Agency describes in rich detail an institution with a deep understanding of Silicon Valley technology that allegedly manipulated tools designed to foster open discussion and turned them into weapons for causing discord.

The IRA’s opinion-influencing unit, set up in 2014 to exploit social media, had at least 80 staff by 2016, and a stated goal to spread “distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general,” the indictment says. Employees of that division crafted viral Facebook posts and widely-followed, fraudulent Twitter accounts, according to the indictment. The indictment, secured by special counsel Robert Mueller, also named two related companies and 13 Russian nationals allegedly involved in the scheme.

The Wall Street Journal and other news organizations have detailed ways the Russian efforts allegedly played out in the U.S., with hundreds of thousands of Americans following fake Facebook pages and some even participating in bogus events that the provocateurs organized.

Friday’s indictment provides the clearest portrait yet of how that disruption was allegedly coordinated. Based in St. Petersburg, Russia, IRA employees used free email accounts and online cryptocurrency exchanges, and concealed their Russian origin using virtual private networks and U.S. computer servers, the U.S. indictment says. They used stolen identities to open PayPal accounts, from which they also paid for Facebook and Instagram ads to promote their online groups, according to the indictment.

U.S. authorities say the IRA leveraged these tools to organize flash-mobs in Florida, run ads for “Miners for Trump” in Pennsylvania and to pay a U.S. resident to dress up like Hillary Clinton in a prison uniform at a West Palm Beach rally.

Operational goals were subject to internal audits. In September 2016, an employee was chastised for not criticizing Hillary Clinton enough in a Facebook group called Secured Borders and was instructed to step up the criticism in future posts, according to the indictment.

The charges show how social media, anonymity and messaging technologies that minted citizen journalists during the Arab Spring came to be turned on their head by Russian operatives to sow disinformation during the 2016 election, said John Scott Railton, a researcher with the University of Toronto’s Munk Centre for International Studies.

“Back in the day if you wanted to run a coup d’état, one of the first things you needed to do was to capture the TV station, capture the radio,” he said. But in the era of Facebook and Twitter, that is no longer the case, he said.

Moscow has repeatedly denied any government effort to influence the U.S. election, and the Russian Embassy in Washington didn’t respond to a request for comment.

The IRA had a monthly budget of more than $1.25 million to conduct influence operations in various countries, the indictment says. In 2014, it created a special team called the Translator Project that fostered campaigns on social media including Facebook, Instagram and Twitter, and also Alphabet Inc.’s YouTube, according to the indictment.

Working in split shifts designed to make it seem like they were in U.S. time zones, project staffers allegedly posted topics on these networks that would resonate with extreme viewpoints held by Americans. They spent thousands of dollars a month promoting their messages, and used engagement metrics—quantifying the size of the audience reached and the number of likes and comments—to refine them, while developing fictitious U.S. personas into “leaders of public opinion,” according to the indictment.

By the time of the election, many of the Translator Project’s groups had snagged hundreds of thousands of unsuspecting followers, the indictment says.

IRA employees also stole the identities of legitimate organizations and real Americans to add credibility to their cause, according to the indictment. Ahead of the presidential election, they allegedly created the Twitter account @TEN_GOP, which claimed to be the Twitter account for the Tennessee Republican party. The false account amassed more than 100,000 online followers, more than seven times the 14,000 followers the official Twitter account of the Tennessee Republican Party has attracted, according to calculations by the Journal.

In a statement posted to its website Friday, the Tennessee Republican Party said that it had filed “multiple” reports to Twitter complaining about the @TEN_GOP account. “Each report was either dismissed by Twitter or never responded to,” the party said.

Twitter didn’t comment on the @TEN_GOP account, but said the alleged Russian efforts to disrupt the election “go against everything we at Twitter believe.” As part of its preparation for the U.S. midterm elections, Twitter said it is monitoring trends and spikes in conversations for possible manipulation activity. YouTube didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Facebook reiterated its plans to expand its safety and security team to 20,000 people by the end of 2018. “We know we have more to do to prevent future attacks,” the company said.

Facebook and Twitter said they were working with a Federal Bureau of Investigation task force on election tampering.

The indictment describes in detail how the IRA allegedly organized real-world events throughout the U.S. through Facebook advertisements and direct contact with activists who supported certain causes, tactics previously reported by the Journal and other media outlets.

The IRA page “Born Patriotic” purchased Facebook ads to promote several pro-Trump rallies in Florida in August 2016 that reached 59,000 Facebook users in Florida, according to the indictment. More than 8,300 Facebook users clicked on the ads, which routed users to Being Patriotic’s page on Facebook, the indictment says.

The IRA pages covered some event costs, like travel and equipment rental, transmitting funds to activists through wire transfers and other means, the indictment says.

The alleged Russian influence campaign seemingly flew under the radar of the technology companies. Facebook, Twitter and Google didn’t launch investigations into the Russian influence campaign until after the presidency was decided.

Starting last September, Facebook and other companies publicly reported that they had identified Russian expenditures on their platforms. The indictment says that media reports that Facebook was working with Mr. Mueller’s team spooked the IRA operatives, prompting them to start destroying evidence.

“We had a slight crisis here at work: the FBI busted our activity (not a joke). So, I got preoccupied with covering tracks together with the colleagues,” a co-conspirator emailed a relative at the time, according to the indictment. “I created all these pictures and posts, and the Americans believed that it was written by their people.”​

 

[dannyboys]

Are you telling me 13 guys named Boris posting shit about Hilary on FB had any effect whatsoever on the election? LOL. You can't be serious! This is what Mueller has come up with after a year of wasting everyone's time and money? Look on any social media platform including this one. There were millions of us making anti-Hillary pro-Trump posts and these 13 jokers swung the election to Donald Trump? BWAAHAHAHAHA you retards.

You're a Willfully Stupid and Treasonous Trumpkin willing to sell out his country for his idiotic party/leader.

Russian Influence Operation Allegedly Ran Like a Propaganda Startup
Federal indictment describes Internet Research Agency as having deep understanding how to use Silicon Valley technology to sow discord
By Robert McMillan,
Deepa Seetharaman and
Georgia Wells
Wall Street Journal - Feb. 17, 2018
Russian Influence Operation Allegedly Ran Like a Propaganda Startup

The alleged Russian campaign to manipulate the U.S. presidential election was orchestrated by what amounted to a propaganda startup, with finance and graphics departments, performance targets and a sophisticated social-media strategy designed to gain maximum attention, according to U.S. authorities.

The federal indictment issued Friday against the Internet Research Agency describes in rich detail an institution with a deep understanding of Silicon Valley technology that allegedly manipulated tools designed to foster open discussion and turned them into weapons for causing discord.

The IRA’s opinion-influencing unit, set up in 2014 to exploit social media, had at least 80 staff by 2016, and a stated goal to spread “distrust towards the candidates and the political system in general,” the indictment says. Employees of that division crafted viral Facebook posts and widely-followed, fraudulent Twitter accounts, according to the indictment. The indictment, secured by special counsel Robert Mueller, also named two related companies and 13 Russian nationals allegedly involved in the scheme.

The Wall Street Journal and other news organizations have detailed ways the Russian efforts allegedly played out in the U.S., with hundreds of thousands of Americans following fake Facebook pages and some even participating in bogus events that the provocateurs organized.

Friday’s indictment provides the clearest portrait yet of how that disruption was allegedly coordinated. Based in St. Petersburg, Russia, IRA employees used free email accounts and online cryptocurrency exchanges, and concealed their Russian origin using virtual private networks and U.S. computer servers, the U.S. indictment says. They used stolen identities to open PayPal accounts, from which they also paid for Facebook and Instagram ads to promote their online groups, according to the indictment.

U.S. authorities say the IRA leveraged these tools to organize flash-mobs in Florida, run ads for “Miners for Trump” in Pennsylvania and to pay a U.S. resident to dress up like Hillary Clinton in a prison uniform at a West Palm Beach rally.

Operational goals were subject to internal audits. In September 2016, an employee was chastised for not criticizing Hillary Clinton enough in a Facebook group called Secured Borders and was instructed to step up the criticism in future posts, according to the indictment.

The charges show how social media, anonymity and messaging technologies that minted citizen journalists during the Arab Spring came to be turned on their head by Russian operatives to sow disinformation during the 2016 election, said John Scott Railton, a researcher with the University of Toronto’s Munk Centre for International Studies.

“Back in the day if you wanted to run a coup d’état, one of the first things you needed to do was to capture the TV station, capture the radio,” he said. But in the era of Facebook and Twitter, that is no longer the case, he said.

Moscow has repeatedly denied any government effort to influence the U.S. election, and the Russian Embassy in Washington didn’t respond to a request for comment.

The IRA had a monthly budget of more than $1.25 million to conduct influence operations in various countries, the indictment says. In 2014, it created a special team called the Translator Project that fostered campaigns on social media including Facebook, Instagram and Twitter, and also Alphabet Inc.’s YouTube, according to the indictment.

Working in split shifts designed to make it seem like they were in U.S. time zones, project staffers allegedly posted topics on these networks that would resonate with extreme viewpoints held by Americans. They spent thousands of dollars a month promoting their messages, and used engagement metrics—quantifying the size of the audience reached and the number of likes and comments—to refine them, while developing fictitious U.S. personas into “leaders of public opinion,” according to the indictment.

By the time of the election, many of the Translator Project’s groups had snagged hundreds of thousands of unsuspecting followers, the indictment says.

IRA employees also stole the identities of legitimate organizations and real Americans to add credibility to their cause, according to the indictment. Ahead of the presidential election, they allegedly created the Twitter account @TEN_GOP, which claimed to be the Twitter account for the Tennessee Republican party. The false account amassed more than 100,000 online followers, more than seven times the 14,000 followers the official Twitter account of the Tennessee Republican Party has attracted, according to calculations by the Journal.

In a statement posted to its website Friday, the Tennessee Republican Party said that it had filed “multiple” reports to Twitter complaining about the @TEN_GOP account. “Each report was either dismissed by Twitter or never responded to,” the party said.

Twitter didn’t comment on the @TEN_GOP account, but said the alleged Russian efforts to disrupt the election “go against everything we at Twitter believe.” As part of its preparation for the U.S. midterm elections, Twitter said it is monitoring trends and spikes in conversations for possible manipulation activity. YouTube didn’t respond to a request for comment.

Facebook reiterated its plans to expand its safety and security team to 20,000 people by the end of 2018. “We know we have more to do to prevent future attacks,” the company said.

Facebook and Twitter said they were working with a Federal Bureau of Investigation task force on election tampering.

The indictment describes in detail how the IRA allegedly organized real-world events throughout the U.S. through Facebook advertisements and direct contact with activists who supported certain causes, tactics previously reported by the Journal and other media outlets.

The IRA page “Born Patriotic” purchased Facebook ads to promote several pro-Trump rallies in Florida in August 2016 that reached 59,000 Facebook users in Florida, according to the indictment. More than 8,300 Facebook users clicked on the ads, which routed users to Being Patriotic’s page on Facebook, the indictment says.

The IRA pages covered some event costs, like travel and equipment rental, transmitting funds to activists through wire transfers and other means, the indictment says.

The alleged Russian influence campaign seemingly flew under the radar of the technology companies. Facebook, Twitter and Google didn’t launch investigations into the Russian influence campaign until after the presidency was decided.

Starting last September, Facebook and other companies publicly reported that they had identified Russian expenditures on their platforms. The indictment says that media reports that Facebook was working with Mr. Mueller’s team spooked the IRA operatives, prompting them to start destroying evidence.

“We had a slight crisis here at work: the FBI busted our activity (not a joke). So, I got preoccupied with covering tracks together with the colleagues,” a co-conspirator emailed a relative at the time, according to the indictment. “I created all these pictures and posts, and the Americans believed that it was written by their people.”​

Did these russian trolls learn how to hack into the FBI and Hillary's campaign to learn how they illegally got the FISA warrants and spy on Americans?
The IRA even had enough cash to organize anti-Trump events. LOL!

 

[Thunderbird]

Are you telling me 13 guys named Boris posting shit about Hilary on FB had any effect whatsoever on the election? LOL. You can't be serious! This is what Mueller has come up with after a year of wasting everyone's time and money? Look on any social media platform including this one. There were millions of us making anti-Hillary pro-Trump posts and these 13 jokers swung the election to Donald Trump? BWAAHAHAHAHA you retards.

You're a Willfully Stupid and Treasonous Trumpkin willing to sell out his country for his idiotic party/leader.

Don't be a partisan clown.

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

 

[tigerred59]

Are you telling me 13 guys named Boris posting shit about Hilary on FB had any effect whatsoever on the election? LOL. You can't be serious! This is what Mueller has come up with after a year of wasting everyone's time and money? Look on any social media platform including this one. There were millions of us making anti-Hillary pro-Trump posts and these 13 jokers swung the election to Donald Trump? BWAAHAHAHAHA you retards.

You know the problem with idiots, like yourself just makes for fucked up news. Everybody, including myself has conceded that Trump won this election fair and square. People wasn't feeling Hillary. But to dismiss Russian involvment does a disservice to our nation's ballot box. These mf's helped Trump. Did they help him win, who no's, but they helped this orange bitch in the 2016 election and for that, we should make them pay for interfering with our elections.
In your white pathetic gut, had the roles been reversed, and Hillary had won and we found out the Russians helped her win by interfering...you red white and blue bitches would have had a melt down.

 

[abu afak]

..Don't be a partisan clown.

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

You mean a Clown So partisan he goes OFF the string topic and drags in Hillary.

You Retard, you forgot "Monica."

You're all sick MFers like Trumpov.
`

 

[Thunderbird]

..Don't be a partisan clown.

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

You mean a Clown So partisan he goes OFF the string topic and drags in Hillary.

You Retard, you forgot "Monica."

`

So your emotional problems make it impossible for you to accept her collusion with the Russians.

 

[Disir]

Are you telling me 13 guys named Boris posting shit about Hilary on FB had any effect whatsoever on the election? LOL. You can't be serious! This is what Mueller has come up with after a year of wasting everyone's time and money? Look on any social media platform including this one. There were millions of us making anti-Hillary pro-Trump posts and these 13 jokers swung the election to Donald Trump? BWAAHAHAHAHA you retards.

Be nice to Hillary Clinton online — or risk a confrontation with her super PAC

Like this?

The Democratic Party insists on pretending to be victims. The reality is that the Russians exploited weaknesses already present. Not different from what the US does. There is no losing trust in the system or process as that ship sailed a looooong time before. If anything, the Russians are slow on the uptake. Now the Democrats are terrified of a report being kicked out before the next election. So, they can continue to bullshit people afterwards. It's that kind of shit that creates a loss of trust.