What's an Entitlement?

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    According to Websters,

    Definition of ENTITLEMENT
    1a : the state or condition of being entitled : right b : a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract
    2: a government program providing benefits to members of a specified group; also : funds supporting or distributed by such a program

    So an entitlement is a benefit like Social Security or Medicare, etc., and not necessarily a free benefit, but more of an insurance you pay into. Rightys always call it an entitlement, and they are right, certain people meeting certain lawful categories are entitled to these benefits.

    Many of those receiving those benefits worked and paid taxes into those programs, so to say someone is not entitled to a benefit is a rightwing lie. Not only did they help fund the program, the law says they are entitled. So a welfare mother is just as much entitled to her check as the senior on Social security or the injured worker on disability.
     
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    So ya yank all the programs... and the "entitlements" disappear..

    works for me.
     
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    Really? And you are all for seeing your fellow Americans like this?

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    You would really cut people off?
     
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    Yep. There is a little something called personal responsibility for your own life.

    An entitlement is something that is offered....I would not eliminate them all together. More like cutting the funding to them in half and severely pruning off the dead weight of freeloaders.
     
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    There is a difference between charity and entitlements. Few know the difference.
     
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    So you got your dead weight freeloading public education entitlement, and now want to deny others?
     
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    It depends on what is meant by ‘welfare,’ TANF, for example, is not technically an entitlement. It can be argued, however, that one is entitled to TANF because she paid taxes during times of employment.

    Also, in Weston v. Hammons (1999), a Colorado court held that TANF recipients have due process rights with regard to benefit termination.

    But your fundamental premise is correct: ‘welfare’ and ‘entitlements’ are diverse programs, all authorized by different laws and policies with many different funding sources, eligibility requirements, and payment amounts.

    It’s a display of ignorance to lump ‘welfare’ and ‘entitlements’ into a single category, as it is to advocate their elimination.
     
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    Needless to say, per Weston, that’s a non-starter.
    Entitlements and public assistance are subject to statutory determination; all persons are allowed to apply and if eligibility criteria are met, receive benefits. And as noted, termination of benefits are subject to due process. Those currently eligible for on-going benefits simply can’t be ‘cut off.’

    Fortunately public policy and the law have acknowledged the need to ensure vulnerable members of society realize a basic level of shelter and nutrition, children in particular. As with other laws, citizens have a right to equal access to these programs and are entitled to due process pursuant to any changes in, or termination of, benefits.
     
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    The idea of America is there are no "vulnerable" members of society.
     
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    I think you are going to have to go further back in time. Original land titles were granted by English Kings to their subjects. For what ever reason I suppose.
    To be entitled is to be granted a gift from the King. (Not Elvis)
     

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