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We already do that.
Fleeing from anything remotely associated with murder is gooooood medicine.
The death penalty is not "murder."
Just wondered what an acceptable number would be for "executing innocent people by mistake" before reviewing the death penalty? What brings this up is the proud record of Texas.
From what I've seen there have been 12 people released from Death Row in Texas. There has also been 755 executed. Now ASSUMING that EVERY ONE of the executed were, in fact, guilty as charged (highly unlikely) that would bring the average to about 1.6% faulty conviction rate.
So what say you? Is more than 1 out of 100 "mistakes" an acceptable number? Would that be considered "collateral damage"?
State by State Database | Death Penalty Information Center
DA who convicted man freed from death row:
NCADP Affiliate: Texas Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty
.
good post, I agree it is problematic. and as much as I agree on one hand, if even one occurs thats too much and since due to the finality of the sentence, it can never be reversed, my visceral reaction is; 1.6% is not prohibitive, god help me.
The number of acceptable executions of an innocent person should be directly proportional to your willingness to stand in that person's shoes...
Think about the circus mouse.
what the fuck is the focus on texas for?just wondered what an acceptable number would be for "executing innocent people by mistake" before reviewing the death penalty? What brings this up is the proud record of texas.
From what i've seen there have been 12 people released from death row in texas. There has also been 755 executed. Now assuming that every one of the executed were, in fact, guilty as charged (highly unlikely) that would bring the average to about 1.6% faulty conviction rate.
So what say you? Is more than 1 out of 100 "mistakes" an acceptable number? Would that be considered "collateral damage"?
state by state database | death penalty information center
da who convicted man freed from death row:
ncadp affiliate: Texas coalition to abolish the death penalty
.
what the fuck is the focus on texas for?just wondered what an acceptable number would be for "executing innocent people by mistake" before reviewing the death penalty? What brings this up is the proud record of texas.
From what i've seen there have been 12 people released from death row in texas. There has also been 755 executed. Now assuming that every one of the executed were, in fact, guilty as charged (highly unlikely) that would bring the average to about 1.6% faulty conviction rate.
So what say you? Is more than 1 out of 100 "mistakes" an acceptable number? Would that be considered "collateral damage"?
state by state database | death penalty information center
da who convicted man freed from death row:
ncadp affiliate: Texas coalition to abolish the death penalty
.
number of executions by state since 1976
state / total executions
texas 474
virginia 109
oklahoma 96
florida 69
missouri 68
alabama 53
georgia 51
ohio 45
north carolina 43
south carolina 43
louisiana 28
arizona 28
arkansas 27
indiana 20
delaware 15
mississippi 15
california 13
illinois 12
nevada 12
utah 7
tennessee 6
maryland 5
washington 5
nebraska 3
montana 3
pennsylvania 3
u. S. Federal government 3
kentucky 3
oregon 2
colorado 1
connecticut 1
idaho 1
new mexico 1
south dakota 1
wyoming 1
Just wondered what an acceptable number would be for "executing innocent people by mistake" before reviewing the death penalty? What brings this up is the proud record of Texas.
From what I've seen there have been 12 people released from Death Row in Texas. There has also been 755 executed. Now ASSUMING that EVERY ONE of the executed were, in fact, guilty as charged (highly unlikely) that would bring the average to about 1.6% faulty conviction rate.
So what say you? Is more than 1 out of 100 "mistakes" an acceptable number? Would that be considered "collateral damage"?
.
Just wondered what an acceptable number would be for "executing innocent people by mistake" before reviewing the death penalty? What brings this up is the proud record of Texas.
From what I've seen there have been 12 people released from Death Row in Texas. There has also been 755 executed. Now ASSUMING that EVERY ONE of the executed were, in fact, guilty as charged (highly unlikely) that would bring the average to about 1.6% faulty conviction rate.
So what say you? Is more than 1 out of 100 "mistakes" an acceptable number? Would that be considered "collateral damage"?
.
You guys haven't found that person yet.
I think the problem with the "you might execute an innocent person by mistake" argument is addressing the issues of flaws in the system. I think sending an innocent person away for the rest of his life in a cell block with a bunch of animals is worse than death row. Who'd want to live like that?
I guess the reason I don't lose a lot of sleep over the issue is that the kinds of people who get "wrongly convicted" usually did a bunch of bad stuff that they were never caught doing. Cops are out there busting Marvin Milqutoast. They are busting the local dirtbag with a long criminal record because they figured "he looked good for it."
I do think we need to fund public defenders better, and put more emphasis on finding the truth than running up a conviction rate. Cops who frame suspects and prosecutors who commit misconduct to win should be thrown out of their jobs.
But the thing is, we need a death penalty to send a message that SOME crimes are completely unacceptable to a civil society. Throwing Charles Manson in prison until he's a senior citizen doesn't cut it.
You said - spending your life in prison is worse than death, then said it is better to kill the bad guys than keep them in prison for life, to teach them and others a lesson?
So are you actually being too soft by advocating the death penalty?
"Death is too good for them"
We already do that.
No we do not.
That's an interesting phrase, guilty of something. So is it ok to convict a person of a crime they didn't do because they committed other crimes and got away with it?Just wondered what an acceptable number would be for "executing innocent people by mistake" before reviewing the death penalty? What brings this up is the proud record of Texas.
From what I've seen there have been 12 people released from Death Row in Texas. There has also been 755 executed. Now ASSUMING that EVERY ONE of the executed were, in fact, guilty as charged (highly unlikely) that would bring the average to about 1.6% faulty conviction rate.
So what say you? Is more than 1 out of 100 "mistakes" an acceptable number? Would that be considered "collateral damage"?
State by State Database | Death Penalty Information Center
DA who convicted man freed from death row:
NCADP Affiliate: Texas Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty
.
No one has been executed by mistake. Ever. Every single one of them was guilty of something and it was their time to die.
That's an interesting phrase, guilty of something. So is it ok to convict a person of a crime they didn't do because they committed other crimes and got away with it?Just wondered what an acceptable number would be for "executing innocent people by mistake" before reviewing the death penalty? What brings this up is the proud record of Texas.
From what I've seen there have been 12 people released from Death Row in Texas. There has also been 755 executed. Now ASSUMING that EVERY ONE of the executed were, in fact, guilty as charged (highly unlikely) that would bring the average to about 1.6% faulty conviction rate.
So what say you? Is more than 1 out of 100 "mistakes" an acceptable number? Would that be considered "collateral damage"?
State by State Database | Death Penalty Information Center
DA who convicted man freed from death row:
NCADP Affiliate: Texas Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty
.
No one has been executed by mistake. Ever. Every single one of them was guilty of something and it was their time to die.
I"D saaayyyy uuuuummmmm 5 no!!! 4 out of a hundred !!Just wondered what an acceptable number would be for "executing innocent people by mistake" before reviewing the death penalty? What brings this up is the proud record of Texas.
From what I've seen there have been 12 people released from Death Row in Texas. There has also been 755 executed. Now ASSUMING that EVERY ONE of the executed were, in fact, guilty as charged (highly unlikely) that would bring the average to about 1.6% faulty conviction rate.
So what say you? Is more than 1 out of 100 "mistakes" an acceptable number? Would that be considered "collateral damage"?
State by State Database | Death Penalty Information Center
DA who convicted man freed from death row:
NCADP Affiliate: Texas Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty
.
Just wondered what an acceptable number would be for "executing innocent people by mistake" before reviewing the death penalty? What brings this up is the proud record of Texas.
From what I've seen there have been 12 people released from Death Row in Texas. There has also been 755 executed. Now ASSUMING that EVERY ONE of the executed were, in fact, guilty as charged (highly unlikely) that would bring the average to about 1.6% faulty conviction rate.
So what say you? Is more than 1 out of 100 "mistakes" an acceptable number? Would that be considered "collateral damage"?
.
You guys haven't found that person yet.
I think the problem with the "you might execute an innocent person by mistake" argument is addressing the issues of flaws in the system. I think sending an innocent person away for the rest of his life in a cell block with a bunch of animals is worse than death row. Who'd want to live like that?
I guess the reason I don't lose a lot of sleep over the issue is that the kinds of people who get "wrongly convicted" usually did a bunch of bad stuff that they were never caught doing. Cops are out there busting Marvin Milqutoast. They are busting the local dirtbag with a long criminal record because they figured "he looked good for it."
I do think we need to fund public defenders better, and put more emphasis on finding the truth than running up a conviction rate. Cops who frame suspects and prosecutors who commit misconduct to win should be thrown out of their jobs.
But the thing is, we need a death penalty to send a message that SOME crimes are completely unacceptable to a civil society. Throwing Charles Manson in prison until he's a senior citizen doesn't cut it.