what would reagan think of mr. obama

if the election was today would you vote for reagan or obama ??

  • obama

    Votes: 10 30.3%
  • reagan

    Votes: 23 69.7%

  • Total voters
    33
False, JFK did far more to stop the communists than Reagan ever did. Reagan created the taliban.

LOL

What a fucking moron

Care to prove me wrong? Oh wait, you can't. You're nothing but an ultra right wing brainwashed idiot that doesn't have the intelligence even close to do so.

Keep on trolling, troll.

Okay what exactly did Kennedy do to stop communism ? He broke even when it came to the Cuban Missle Crisis. He directed NASA to get to the moon first, which did indeed smack down the Soviets, he got involved in Vietnam to halt thye spread of communism, but what else ?
 
I must respect your resiliency. No matter how many times you get slapped down you come back. Let me use an example of your absurdity. Reagan is vilified for his stand on AIDS, Bush was praised just the other day by Elton John. Now which one is more conservative? Doesn't really matter the Republicans do what is right for America, them and Reagan both would agree. Reagan did and would rule in the RNC, I am a life long Republican so I get to say that, you not so much.

Are you sure? How's old school republican John McCain doing with republicans these days?

McCain??? He never did well with real Conservatives why do you think he should today? The only reason I voted for McCain was because of Palin. I would have voted for an independent first. Of course the left lies and says Palin ruined his chance but no, it was McCain who did that.

BTW, McCain being a Republican and not completely agreeing with the platform is exactly what I said, the door is open to all who wishes to loosen the shackles of the DNC. But considering the DNC is now full of lemmings I don't see a lot leaving.

The so-called "real conservative" is a relatively recent mainstream GOP development. In Reagan's day they were confined to the John Birch society and other such ultra-conservative fringe groups that the GOP mostly greeted with derision but he let them get their toe in the door in the name of garnering the widest possible support. Are you actually old enough to remember Reagan or are you just making up your own history?
 
That is what is so laughable about the left they now love Reagan. They think that somehow he would be disappointed in Conservatives today. They make this stuff up out of sail cloth then just keep on repeating it. If Reagan rand today the landslide would be as not other. Romney is no Reagan but we damn know for sure that Obama ain't no JFK. JFK really wouldn't stand a chance in the welfare state DNC. "Ask not what your country can do for you.." would make most of the DNC throw up.

Reagan would be ran out of the GOP today being called a liberal.

I must respect your resiliency. No matter how many times you get slapped down you come back. Let me use an example of your absurdity. Reagan is vilified for his stand on AIDS, Bush was praised just the other day by Elton John. Now which one is more conservative? Doesn't really matter the Republicans do what is right for America, them and Reagan both would agree. Reagan did and would rule in the RNC, I am a life long Republican so I get to say that, you not so much.

You couldn't even slap around you 2"er if you tried :up:

Now tell me, how would Reagan be able to stand up today's GOP when he:

Raised taxes more times than anyone in history

Called the taliban "the moral equivalents of america's founding fathers"

Made illegal arms deals with muslims in Iran

Granted full blown blanket amnesty to millions of illegals

Strongly feels church and state must be kept separate

Feels the rich also needs to "pay their fair share"

and the list goes on,..

I find it hard to believe Reagan would not be run out of the GOP today with pitchforks and torches blazing,..
 
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I am not so sure Reagan would be too ashamed of today's republican party, after all, he threw open the doors to the disgruntled dixecrats and the moral majority in the first place, not sure that he would actually believe that Democrats are communists but he would certainly see the value of dusting off the disused cold war rhetoric and turning it on our own. In his heart he was a republican who liked for republicans to win by fair means or foul.

Not disagreeing, but compare Reagan’s relationship with Speaker O’Neill and House democrats during his first term to that of House republicans and Obama.

I was one Reagan’s most aggressive detractors – I still consider him among our worst presidents for the reasons you note. But he and Senate republicans at least conducted themselves in a responsible manner, understanding the need for sound governance; they didn’t fail the American people as have House republican since 2011.
 
birther controversy and unknown past aside, reagan was the champion of dampening the communist spirit and did more to stop it than anyone in American history. i'm glad he got to see it come full circle in his lifetime.

so what would he say or do if he were running against the radical obama.


To be honest, my politics are radically in the center, such as Obama and Reagan's were.

You can't go with the claptrap you hear either on FOX or anywhere else. You have to look at how an individual governs.

Those two Presidents have more in common than they have differences. Their personalities are the same, the type of person who knows how to take the temperature of a room and to put themselves right square in the center.

Reagan was a tax-cutting President before he had to raise revenue to keep up with spending and to help the economy. Obama's in the process of wanting to do the exact same thing.

Reagan drafted the nuclear arms treaty with Russia, and was the strongest advocate in the free world of reducing loose nukes. He would be proud that this President has continued his legacy, whereas the neo-cons abandoned it.

I don't feel that Reagan would be included in the GOP anymore, the same way I'm not included. We're centrists who put common sense over ideology and dogma on most issues, but in today's GOP it's like they have to pretend to be as stupid as possible in order to court every last ignorant fucker left in the land.

Have to pretend that Obama's a foreigner or you're excluded. Have to pretend that tax cuts solve unemployment and deficits or you're excluded. Have to be militantly pro-life or you're excluded. Have to believe that putting all our resources in chasing down every last illegal immigrant is the right thing to do over creating a pathway for some of 'em to be here legally so that they can pay into our system instead of sending it all back to Mexico, or you're excluded.

You have to believe in creationism or you're excluded.

You have to deny climate change or you're excluded.

You see where I'm going with this. Ronald Reagan would've been perceived by today's Republican party to be just a celebrity who talks nice but who isn't militant like they are about the stupid ass things they believe in.

Ronald Reagan passed amnesty for illegals. He raised taxes over a half dozen times after he cut them too deeply in his first year in office. That means Reagan saw the mistake and then corrected it. Today's Republicans don't ever admit mistakes, and thus dig themselves and the country into a deeper hole as a result of that denial.

Ronald Reagan would be a Democrat today. You look at Harry Reid's positions on social issues, and that's pretty much where Reagan was. Reagan would've never carried out all this bullshit against gay people. He was a fair man for a conservative, and he would have preached more tolerance instead of going to a Chick-Fil-A with his wife in order support the redneck who owns it who thinks that discriminating against people is a valid opinion.

Reagan would have passed the individual mandate, just like Obama. No free riders, bitches! They both believe in responsibility that way.

So, to make a short story long, Ronald Reagan would never run against Obama because Ronald Reagan is a fig newton in the Republican imagination. A saintly saint of a conservative who would have never lowered himself to the level of a Michele Bachmann or a Sarah Palin. Would never have lowered himself by talking like a teabagger does today.
 
I am not so sure Reagan would be too ashamed of today's republican party, after all, he threw open the doors to the disgruntled dixecrats and the moral majority in the first place, not sure that he would actually believe that Democrats are communists but he would certainly see the value of dusting off the disused cold war rhetoric and turning it on our own. In his heart he was a republican who liked for republicans to win by fair means or foul.

Not disagreeing, but compare Reagan’s relationship with Speaker O’Neill and House democrats during his first term to that of House republicans and Obama.

I was one Reagan’s most aggressive detractors – I still consider him among our worst presidents for the reasons you note. But he and Senate republicans at least conducted themselves in a responsible manner, understanding the need for sound governance; they didn’t fail the American people as have House republican since 2011.


Oh please
that is all part of the Left's falsehood to make Papa Obama seem like some kind of victim .....
and push the Left's template on dubious claims of Republican extremism

O’Neill publicly called Reagan “callous . . . a real Ebenezer Scrooge,” whose program was “for the selfish, the greedy, and the affluent.”

O’Neill’s about Reagan during the 1984 campaign:

The evil is in the White House at the present time. And that evil is a man who has no care and no concern for the working class of America and the future generations of America, and who likes to ride a horse. He’s cold. He’s mean. He’s got ice water for blood.


Nothing's change in the body politics
except unlike Reagan

your guy policies failed and
he is going to lose the next election
 
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False, JFK did far more to stop the communists than Reagan ever did. Reagan created the taliban.

I give Reagan huge credit for establishing trust with Gorbachev. His "Zero Option" negotiation was pretty progressive, and really pissed off the right wing.

I just can't believe how the left twists history. Reagn never pissed off the right wing, I am, I was, I know.

Bullshit. Wingnuts like Jesse Helms went ballistic over his "Zero Option" proposal.
 
so what would he say or do if he were running against the radical obama.

First of all, Obama is no radical. At best he's a center-right moderate. If you think of Reagan as an opponent of the left, you'd be disappointed in a Reagan - Obama contest.

How the hell off the far left end of the scale do you have to be to see Obama as center-right?
 
Reagan chased Obama's ilk underground in the eighties, spent the Soviets into defeat in the cold war and made possible the massive defense cuts that led to "Clinton's" surplus.
Anyone here remember when there were no negative implications in an American admitting his/her support for communism?
Yeah, that crap died under Reagan and the defeat of communism. But alas, the domestic threats have returned yet this time they're not so bold and honest. They still want to end capitalism and believe that a few should be making all the decisions for us all but they're not going to admit for a minute what they're truly about or from whence they get their inspiration.
Reagan was such a master orator that I so WISH we could hear what he would say about Obama.
It would be straight forward, concise and so brutally honest and irrefutable that is would likely signal the end of the boy king's reign.
 
The GOP has moved so far to the right that they'd be calling Reagan a socialist for raising taxes in seven of his eight years.
 
so what would he say or do if he were running against the radical obama.

First of all, Obama is no radical. At best he's a center-right moderate. If you think of Reagan as an opponent of the left, you'd be disappointed in a Reagan - Obama contest.

How the hell off the far left end of the scale do you have to be to see Obama as center-right?

Reagan chased Obama's ilk underground in the eighties, spent the Soviets into defeat in the cold war and made possible the massive defense cuts that led to "Clinton's" surplus.
Anyone here remember when there were no negative implications in an American admitting his/her support for communism?
Yeah, that crap died under Reagan and the defeat of communism. But alas, the domestic threats have returned yet this time they're not so bold and honest. They still want to end capitalism and believe that a few should be making all the decisions for us all but they're not going to admit for a minute what they're truly about or from whence they get their inspiration.
Reagan was such a master orator that I so WISH we could hear what he would say about Obama.
It would be straight forward, concise and so brutally honest and irrefutable that is would likely signal the end of the boy king's reign.


The Left is like a bad case of foot fungus
tough to go away

The left has been selling the same bag of goods for years

For example watch this video
same crap, different day

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPKH4GHiihg]Socialist World Republic - Sozialistische Weltrepublik - YouTube[/ame]
 
Obama is responsible for legislation far reaching beyond the present time "Affordable HealthCare Act" that transcends any accomplishment of lasting endurance sponsored by R Reagan.
 
Obama is responsible for legislation far reaching beyond the present time "Affordable HealthCare Act" that transcends any accomplishment of lasting endurance sponsored by R Reagan.

Oh, I don't know about that. Reagan's tax policies created far reaching and long lasting repercussions that we are still suffering from. The middle class is still shrinking because of him.
 
Obama is responsible for legislation far reaching beyond the present time "Affordable HealthCare Act" that transcends any accomplishment of lasting endurance sponsored by R Reagan.

Oh, I don't know about that. Reagan's tax policies created far reaching and long lasting repercussions that we are still suffering from. The middle class is still shrinking because of him.

Raising taxes 7 of his 8 years?
 
Reagan, just like the rest of us sane people, would think Obama is an ass clown.

Ideed. Obama in NO WAY resembles reagan in any shape, form, and Fashion by word and deed.

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Obama is responsible for legislation far reaching beyond the present time "Affordable HealthCare Act" that transcends any accomplishment of lasting endurance sponsored by R Reagan.

Oh, I don't know about that. Reagan's tax policies created far reaching and long lasting repercussions that we are still suffering from. The middle class is still shrinking because of him.

Raising taxes 7 of his 8 years?

Yeah, he did that after his huge tax cut to the rich and then had to nudge it back up a smidgen. The middle class had to pick up the slack. That is why the middle class is no better off today than it was 30 years ago, but the rich have seen their wealth skyrocket.
 
The truth hurts doesn't it? The GOP has shifted so far to the radical right, Reagan would be an Obama center/right republican today.


Too funny

The Democrats have shifted so far left
Kennedy would be to the far right of Papa Obama
Imagine he cut taxes
:eusa_whistle:



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It really is sad how extreme the Democrats have become
More so since Papa Obama has been elected
 
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