What would a decisive battle look like in a 2nd American Civil War?

[HereWeGoAgain]

Totalitarian America is already here --- NSA --- NDAA --- IRS --- AP wiretaps ---....

If you are here safely bitching about being in a totalitarian state, then you aren't in one.

So seem to think the only way to stop dissadent's is to snatch them out of their bed at two a.m.
You couldnt be more wrong. We're way past that.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Americans are fat and lazy.......they will not turn out for the great Conservative rebellion against our country

democrats believe Americans to be fat and lazy, willing to endure any infringement of liberty and civil rights without reaction. Oddly, these are the identical words that your Al Qaeda allies use when describing us.

You of the Khmer Rouge put your jackbooted foot on the throat of the 1st Amendment, and we fought you. Not with guns, but in the courts, and we defeated you. The Constitution of the Old Republic prevailed, while you suffered a humiliating defeat.

While the system still functions, any talk of civil war is foolish.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The first redneck that shoots a soldier will unleash the fury of our military on the American hating right

You Khmer Rouge morons fantasize that the military would side with you against the Constitution.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Americans are fat and lazy.......they will not turn out for the great Conservative rebellion against our country

democrats believe Americans to be fat and lazy, willing to endure any infringement of liberty and civil rights without reaction. Oddly, these are the identical words that your Al Qaeda allies use when describing us.

You of the Khmer Rouge put your jackbooted foot on the throat of the 1st Amendment, and we fought you. Not with guns, but in the courts, and we defeated you. The Constitution of the Old Republic prevailed, while you suffered a humiliating defeat.

While the system still functions, any talk of civil war is foolish.

I would argue that the system is already broken. We just haven't felt the full force of it....yet.
Republicans and democrats have been selling us down the river for years with amnesty programs coming from both sides. Then Bush hit us with the DHS and spying on American citizens,only to have obama come in and make Bush look like a rookie when it comes to trampling the Constitution. So what the fuck is next?
I'd wager more of the same no matter who gets elected.

If we continue down this path we're screwed. I'm just glad there are still some of us left who are willing to do something about it if we cant stop it using the ballot box.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The first soldier that shoots an American citizen will unleash the fury of every armed citizen against the military.

The armed citizens of America are the third largest, armed standing army on the face of the earth. There isn't a force big enough to win a war against them. That's what scares the fuck otta libroids, and why they're so rabid about disarming law abiding citizens. Just like the movie "War Games" where total thermonuclear warfare was waged and NOTHING was left, would be the only scenario, and in that scenario, NO ONE wins.

Why would a soldier shoot an American Citizen?

Obama wouldn't even attempt to deploy the military against domestic targets - he knows full well they would refuse.

IF civil war erupted, the Khmer Rouge would be limited to FBI, DEA, IRS, and ICE as their troops. There is zero chance the military would intervene, in defiance of Posse comitatus. The Khmer Rouge democrats have a fantasy of the US Army kicking down the doors of all white people and marching them off to death camps. It ain't going to happen. If war erupted, democrats will be limited to the secret police as their military force.

A civil war would destroy what we have. It would weaken us to our enemies and leave our infrastructure in ruins. I know forum democrats think civil war would let them setup the killing fields they lust for, but chances are it would merely open the way for China or Russia to attack.

Obama has done everything he can think of to provoke violence, but prudence remains the proper course. Remember, the left seeks to destroy, they are creatures of destruction, poverty and despair. We of the right are the builders and traders, we create and grow to the benefit of all. Never let the leftists goad you into unnecessary violence.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Not so much.

Their 15 minutes are up. Their idiotic OPs and trollposts aren't bringing in traffic (read: $$$) anymore. In fact, they're turning off a lot of potential members.

You of the Khmer Rouge keep saying that, yet you keep getting your asses kicked in elections and in the courts.


Your dream of marching your neighbors off to death camps in the middle of the night is no closer today than it was 2 years ago.

 

[Nutz]

The first soldier that shoots an American citizen will unleash the fury of every armed citizen against the military.

The armed citizens of America are the third largest, armed standing army on the face of the earth. There isn't a force big enough to win a war against them. That's what scares the fuck otta libroids, and why they're so rabid about disarming law abiding citizens. Just like the movie "War Games" where total thermonuclear warfare was waged and NOTHING was left, would be the only scenario, and in that scenario, NO ONE wins.

Why would a soldier shoot an American Citizen?

Obama wouldn't even attempt to deploy the military against domestic targets - he knows full well they would refuse.

IF civil war erupted, the Khmer Rouge would be limited to FBI, DEA, IRS, and ICE as their troops. There is zero chance the military would intervene, in defiance of Posse comitatus. The Khmer Rouge democrats have a fantasy of the US Army kicking down the doors of all white people and marching them off to death camps. It ain't going to happen. If war erupted, democrats will be limited to the secret police as their military force.

If a civil war were to break out, Posse Comitatus would not apply and I am sure the MAJORITY of troops would fight for their nation against racist asswipes who threaten a revolution because there is a black President.

On top of that, he could use canadian troops to settle any unrest, WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL. There is an agreement, it was made in 2008. N. American Army created without OK by Congress

Now, I am not saying I agree with using canadian troops and I believe the agreement is an affront to all Americans...this romantic view of a civil war is nonsense. Utter nonsense and a revolt would be quickly crushed.

A civil war would destroy what we have. It would weaken us to our enemies and leave our infrastructure in ruins. I know forum democrats think civil war would let them setup the killing fields they lust for, but chances are it would merely open the way for China or Russia to attack.

And the Teapers continually spew nonsense about a civil war...I wonder, is that their goal, to be invaded by China or Russia?

Obama has done everything he can think of to provoke violence, but prudence remains the proper course. Remember, the left seeks to destroy, they are creatures of destruction, poverty and despair. We of the right are the builders and traders, we create and grow to the benefit of all. Never let the leftists goad you into unnecessary violence.

Like what? What has Obama done to provoke violence...did he simply say hello or is it just is skin color?

 

[Uncensored2008]

I would argue that the system is already broken. We just haven't felt the full force of it....yet.

The "system" is a V8 running on three cylinders. It's limping along in bad shape, but it is still running.

Republicans and democrats have been selling us down the river for years with amnesty programs coming from both sides. Then Bush hit us with the DHS and spying on American citizens,only to have obama come in and make Bush look like a rookie when it comes to trampling the Constitution. So what the fuck is next?
I'd wager more of the same no matter who gets elected.

I have no love of the Republican, not by a long shot. But the democrats are controlled by the radical left, and dedicated to the destruction of the Constitution with the establishment of an authoritarian socialist system, which they have been frighteningly successful in establishing their agenda/

If we continue down this path we're screwed. I'm just glad there are still some of us left who are willing to do something about it if we cant stop it using the ballot box.

Better to change the path than to blow it up, though.

 

[Nutz]

If we continue down this path we're screwed. I'm just glad there are still some of us left who are willing to do something about it if we cant stop it using the ballot box.

And that is the problem...you only believe in a republic if it adheres to your ideology. You can't handle being defeated.

I do understand your position...the ballot doesn't matter if it takes away the basic tenants of the Constitution. Some might argue that we have a living Constitution that can be adjusted for contemporary times. I would argue that we do have a living Constitution, but the Bill of Rights is the core to the values and principles this nation was founded...and should not be messed with.

So my question is simple...Specifically, what justifies ignoring the will of the people and armed insurrection? What are the causes of even entertaining the thought of revolution or secession?

 

[Uncensored2008]

If a civil war were to break out, Posse Comitatus would not apply and I am sure the MAJORITY of troops would fight for their nation against racist asswipes who threaten a revolution because there is a black President.

Yes, but you are sure that white people are responsible for your failures in life. You are SURE that if only Obama were white, everyone would celebrate the revocation of the 1st Amendment and other basic civil liberties.

So what YOU are sure of has no bearing on reality.

On top of that, he could use canadian troops to settle any unrest, WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL. There is an agreement, it was made in 2008. N. American Army created without OK by Congress

No doubt Canada would invade to support the Khmer Rouge, and the US Military would stand idle as a foreign force occupied.

You may be a racist, you may be dull witted, but you are indeed nutz..

Now, I am not saying I agree with using canadian troops and I believe the agreement is an affront to all Americans...this romantic view of a civil war is nonsense. Utter nonsense and a revolt would be quickly crushed.

ROFL

You are insane.

And the Teapers continually spew nonsense about a civil war...I wonder, is that their goal, to be invaded by China or Russia?

Obama does whatever he can to promote violence. I see the shameful democrats as the fools seeking to start a civil war. Because you are stupid, you think that it would be easy, that you would just march in in a day and kill all the whites in the country. This is the same thing the North said in the first civil war. They, like you, were fools.

You are a bunch of children, spoiled and mean, dreaming of inflicting pain and suffering on those whom you hate - in your case, white people - in the case of RW, Capitalists. But you're stupid - which is the most serious fault in you. Real war, real death and destruction, would not be fun for anyone. Destruction is the product of war, and you don't know how to build. So what would you do if you won? Live in the ruins?

Like what? What has Obama done to provoke violence...did he simply say hello or is it just is skin color?

You are a racist. To you, Obama can do no wrong - he is faux-black. You hold skin color as the only measure of a man.

I don't give a fuck what color the pile of shit is, he is a pile of shit, and that is what is important.

What has the putrid pile of shit done? How about the open violation of law in the "Dream Act" which, which has resulted in influx of 10's of thousands of illegals, as the scumbag essentially put a flashing neon welcome sign up. Importing poverty and ignorance while driving wages for Americans down with yet another massive inflow of unskilled labor.

 

[Ernie S.]

We believe in the Republic, if it adheres to it's own ideology stated quite clearly in the U. S. Constitution.
This country is so far from the Founders' ideology now that I'm not sure we can return to sanity without drastic measures.
I'm rather offended that you, of all people tout the Bill of Rights when you only use it to support an agenda that seeks to limit some of the very rights codified in it.

Well everyone. Post up in the thread before Putz gets this one locked up too.

 

[Nutz]

If a civil war were to break out, Posse Comitatus would not apply and I am sure the MAJORITY of troops would fight for their nation against racist asswipes who threaten a revolution because there is a black President.

Yes, but you are sure that white people are responsible for your failures in life. You are SURE that if only Obama were white, everyone would celebrate the revocation of the 1st Amendment and other basic civil liberties.

So what YOU are sure of has no bearing on reality.

On top of that, he could use canadian troops to settle any unrest, WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL APPROVAL. There is an agreement, it was made in 2008. N. American Army created without OK by Congress

No doubt Canada would invade to support the Khmer Rouge, and the US Military would stand idle as a foreign force occupied.

You may be a racist, you may be dull witted, but you are indeed nutz..



ROFL

You are insane.

And the Teapers continually spew nonsense about a civil war...I wonder, is that their goal, to be invaded by China or Russia?

Obama does whatever he can to promote violence. I see the shameful democrats as the fools seeking to start a civil war. Because you are stupid, you think that it would be easy, that you would just march in in a day and kill all the whites in the country. This is the same thing the North said in the first civil war. They, like you, were fools.

You are a bunch of children, spoiled and mean, dreaming of inflicting pain and suffering on those whom you hate - in your case, white people - in the case of RW, Capitalists. But you're stupid - which is the most serious fault in you. Real war, real death and destruction, would not be fun for anyone. Destruction is the product of war, and you don't know how to build. So what would you do if you won? Live in the ruins?

Like what? What has Obama done to provoke violence...did he simply say hello or is it just is skin color?

You are a racist. To you, Obama can do no wrong - he is faux-black. You hold skin color as the only measure of a man.

I don't give a fuck what color the pile of shit is, he is a pile of shit, and that is what is important.

What has the putrid pile of shit done? How about the open violation of law in the "Dream Act" which, which has resulted in influx of 10's of thousands of illegals, as the scumbag essentially put a flashing neon welcome sign up. Importing poverty and ignorance while driving wages for Americans down with yet another massive inflow of unskilled labor.

You are irrational. You have perhaps even gone off the deep end.

Show me where I have EVER supported Obama. Teapers are fucking ridiculous...you are so full of rage, you can't see past your own little noses. In all of that rant, all you have is the Dream Act?

Now, just because I ask you a question doesn't mean I support Obama...so relax, francis.

So explain the open violation of law in the Dream Act.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

If we continue down this path we're screwed. I'm just glad there are still some of us left who are willing to do something about it if we cant stop it using the ballot box.

And that is the problem...you only believe in a republic if it adheres to your ideology. You can't handle being defeated.

I do understand your position...the ballot doesn't matter if it takes away the basic tenants of the Constitution. Some might argue that we have a living Constitution that can be adjusted for contemporary times. I would argue that we do have a living Constitution, but the Bill of Rights is the core to the values and principles this nation was founded...and should not be messed with.

So my question is simple...Specifically, what justifies ignoring the will of the people and armed insurrection? What are the causes of even entertaining the thought of revolution or secession?

If you call destroying America defeat,then yes I fear defeat.
Obama has been pissing on the rule of law for six years and he's praised by the left,I find that disturbing to say the least.

As far as what will set things off? I really dont know,but it's pretty obvious that obama is doing his damnedest find out.
You have the militarization of police forces around the country,DHS arming themselves to the teeth and a president who is doing his damnedest to set off the American right.

It's my hope America wakes up after seeing obama at work.
Anything else is unthinkable....

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Show me where I have EVER supported Obama. Teapers are fucking ridiculous...you are so full of rage,

When have you ever disagreed with Obama?

 

[Nutz]

We believe in the Republic, if it adheres to it's own ideology stated quite clearly in the U. S. Constitution.
This country is so far from the Founders' ideology now that I'm not sure we can return to sanity without drastic measures.
I'm rather offended that you, of all people tout the Bill of Rights when you only use it to support an agenda that seeks to limit some of the very rights codified in it.

Well everyone. Post up in the thread before Putz gets this one locked up too.

You don't know what I believe. You only attribute arguments to me because I dare disagree with your arguments...which usually happen to be nonsense and never based on logic.

I believe in the Constitution. I believe in law and order. I can appreciate the fact that the Constitution is a living Constitution.

I will never give up my guns, nor do I want guns taken away from anyone else. Illegal immigration is illegal, and they all need to be sent back.

Gun control has always been a hot topic. So has illegal immigration as even RONALD REAGAN gave illegal amnesty. Why the uproar now?

This is the first I have ever heard of unrest so bad, that people are calling for an armed revolution...for no other reason than bitterness over lost elections (as I can see it). You have tried the birther route, you have accused the opposition of voter fraud, you blame gerrymandering, you have blamed blacks, Mexicans and Jews. None of that worked...so now you are calling for a revolution...because you lost at the ballot box.

If the Constitution is being usurped at the ballot box and the core foundation of this nation has been perverted so much that there is a call for a revolution...I would like to know why. What justifies ignoring the will of the people and armed insurrection? What are the causes of even entertaining the thought of revolution or secession?

 

[Nutz]

Show me where I have EVER supported Obama. Teapers are fucking ridiculous...you are so full of rage,

When have you ever disagreed with Obama?

All of the time...you people just don't pay attention because I dare disagree with your nonsense about revolutions and blaming blackie.

I deal with facts, not your nonsense and hyperbole...ridiculous arguments get ridiculous responses. This is how I know Teapers are low information fools. They can't defend their argument, they can only resort to personal attacks and attributing arguments to the opposition...because honest discussion will always reveal the flaw in their argument.

I asked a couple of questions...non-flaming posts. I guarantee you people will not answer those questions...and if you do, it will be laden with vitriolic hate and nonsense.

 

[Nutz]

If we continue down this path we're screwed. I'm just glad there are still some of us left who are willing to do something about it if we cant stop it using the ballot box.

And that is the problem...you only believe in a republic if it adheres to your ideology. You can't handle being defeated.

I do understand your position...the ballot doesn't matter if it takes away the basic tenants of the Constitution. Some might argue that we have a living Constitution that can be adjusted for contemporary times. I would argue that we do have a living Constitution, but the Bill of Rights is the core to the values and principles this nation was founded...and should not be messed with.

So my question is simple...Specifically, what justifies ignoring the will of the people and armed insurrection? What are the causes of even entertaining the thought of revolution or secession?

If you call destroying America defeat,then yes I fear defeat.
Obama has been pissing on the rule of law for six years and he's praised by the left,I find that disturbing to say the least.

As far as what will set things off? I really dont know,but it's pretty obvious that obama is doing his damnedest find out.
You have the militarization of police forces around the country,DHS arming themselves to the teeth and a president who is doing his damnedest to set off the American right.

It's my hope America wakes up after seeing obama at work.
Anything else is unthinkable....

What specifically has Obama done? No hyperbole, no nonsense. Just the facts, please.

 

[Uncensored2008]

You are irrational. You have perhaps even gone off the deep end.

Says the fuckwad claiming that Canadian troops will storm the country to crush the hated opponents of Dear Leader..

Dude, get help - seriously.

Show me where I have EVER supported Obama. Teapers are fucking ridiculous...you are so full of rage, you can't see past your own little noses. In all of that rant, all you have is the Dream Act?

All you DO is support Obama. You have one, and only one, stupid assed line - that anyone who criticizes Obama is a racist.

This is the most insipid type of support, sleazy with the intent of intimidating others. Except that everyone in the forum already knows that the racist around here is you.

Now, just because I ask you a question doesn't mean I support Obama...so relax, francis.

Just because you slander anyone who criticizes Obama DOES mean you support him, Goober.

So explain the open violation of law in the Dream Act.

Congress defeated the Dream Act - Obama said that he is above the law and Constitution, and will grant citizenship anyway. Which sparked this massive influx of new illegals - as was the plan.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

And that is the problem...you only believe in a republic if it adheres to your ideology. You can't handle being defeated.

I do understand your position...the ballot doesn't matter if it takes away the basic tenants of the Constitution. Some might argue that we have a living Constitution that can be adjusted for contemporary times. I would argue that we do have a living Constitution, but the Bill of Rights is the core to the values and principles this nation was founded...and should not be messed with.

So my question is simple...Specifically, what justifies ignoring the will of the people and armed insurrection? What are the causes of even entertaining the thought of revolution or secession?

If you call destroying America defeat,then yes I fear defeat.
Obama has been pissing on the rule of law for six years and he's praised by the left,I find that disturbing to say the least.

As far as what will set things off? I really dont know,but it's pretty obvious that obama is doing his damnedest find out.
You have the militarization of police forces around the country,DHS arming themselves to the teeth and a president who is doing his damnedest to set off the American right.

It's my hope America wakes up after seeing obama at work.
Anything else is unthinkable....

What specifically has Obama done? No hyperbole, no nonsense. Just the facts, please.

I see no reason to give you a list,this board if full of the reasons. And it's also full of dems who will defend whats going on no matter what obama does.

Seriously...what can you say to a group of people who think nothing is going on at the IRS?

 

[Nutz]

You are irrational. You have perhaps even gone off the deep end.

Says the fuckwad claiming that Canadian troops will storm the country to crush the hated opponents of Dear Leader..

I was merely pointing out that canadian troops can be called to the US without Congressional approval. I am surprised you aren't outraged about this...then again, Teapers are irrational and can only spew what they have been told.

Show me where I have EVER supported Obama. Teapers are fucking ridiculous...you are so full of rage, you can't see past your own little noses. In all of that rant, all you have is the Dream Act?

All you DO is support Obama. You have one, and only one, stupid assed line - that anyone who criticizes Obama is a racist.[/quote]
Show me where I have supported Obama. Hell, show me where I say you are a racist if you don't support Obama. You are too emotional and have poor reading comprehension skills. What I have said is that racist Teapers have no basis for their arguments if they are honest with themselves. Their outrage is a black President...not the perceived issues he has supposedly caused. I have asked you people, countless times, to list Obama's crimes that are unique to his administration. None of you have or can do it.

This is the most insipid type of support, sleazy with the intent of intimidating others. Except that everyone in the forum already knows that the racist around here is you.

The ploy of the Teapers...if anyone dares disagree with them, call them a racist. I am no more a racist that any Teaper on this forum...but you guys will call me racist because it makes you feel better about your rhetoric and empty arguments.

Just because you slander anyone who criticizes Obama DOES mean you support him, Goober.

No, it doesn't.



Congress defeated the Dream Act - Obama said that he is above the law and Constitution, and will grant citizenship anyway. Which sparked this massive influx of new illegals - as was the plan.[/QUOTE]
What was his executive order. How did it spark a massive influx of new illegals? Many people would argue Bush's implementation of his Immigration Reform Act sparked a massive influx of illegals.