What the HealthCare Bill Means:

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    1. You are young and don’t want health insurance? You are starting up a small business and need to minimize expenses, and one way to do that is to forego health insurance? Tough. You have to pay $750 annually for the “privilege.” (Section 1501)

    2. You are young and healthy and want to pay for insurance that reflects that status? Tough. You’ll have to pay for premiums that cover not only you, but also the guy who smokes three packs a day, drink a gallon of whiskey and eats chicken fat off the floor. That’s because insurance companies will no longer be able to underwrite on the basis of a person’s health status. (Section 2701).

    3. You would like to pay less in premiums by buying insurance with lifetime or annual limits on coverage? Tough. Health insurers will no longer be able to offer such policies, even if that is what customers prefer. (Section 2711).

    4. Think you’d like a policy that is cheaper because it doesn’t cover preventive care or requires cost-sharing for such care? Tough. Health insurers will no longer be able to offer policies that do not cover preventive services or offer them with cost-sharing, even if that’s what the customer wants. (Section 2712).

    5. You are an employer and you would like to offer coverage that doesn’t allow your employers’ slacker children to stay on the policy until age 26? Tough. (Section 2714).

    6. You must buy a policy that covers ambulatory patient services, emergency services, hospitalization, maternity and newborn care, mental health and substance use disorder services, including behavioral health treatment; prescription drugs; rehabilitative and habilitative services and devices; laboratory services; preventive and wellness services; chronic disease management; and pediatric services, including oral and vision care.
    You’re a single guy without children? Tough, your policy must cover pediatric services. You’re a woman who can’t have children? Tough, your policy must cover maternity services. You’re a teetotaler? Tough, your policy must cover substance abuse treatment. (Add your own violation of personal freedom here.) (Section 1302).

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    Repeal this heap of trash.
     
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    Your link doesnt work
     
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    hmm... didn't notice that. Oh well.. the link is on Drudge.
     
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    You can be breaking the rules by doing that I think.
     
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    the bill means walmart will lose a lot of money and actually have to give employees benefits. its a win for everyone
     
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    No, it means Walmart will fulfill their responsibility of making as much money as possible by laying off employees and raising prices on you and I and the poor people you pretend to want to protect.
     
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    What happens if you can't afford the $750 annually?
     
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    They have stated that the IRS has jurisdiction, so I imagine they would take money out of paycheck or confiscate property.
     
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    In other words: Do you want to be able to have society pay for your emergency room visits when you get deathly ill, because you don't feel like paying for health insurance?

    False. Intentional self-destruction is not a "pre-existing condition". Risk rates will be raised accordingly for people who abuse substances.

    Section 2711 states:

    "[E]ach health insurance issuer that offers health insurance coverage in the small group market in a State --

    (A) must accept every small employer (as defined in section 300gg-91(e)(4) of this title) in the State that applies for such coverage; and

    (B) must accept for enrollment under such coverage every eligible individual (as defined in paragraph (2)) who applies for enrollment during the period in which the individual first becomes eligible to enroll under the terms of the group health plan and may not place any restriction which is inconsistent with section 300gg-1 of this title on an eligible individual being a participant or beneficiary."


    What part of that does what you're describing exactly?

    Section 2712 Reads:

    "[A] group health plan, and a health insurance issuer offering group health insurance coverage in connection with a group health plan, may not establish rules for eligibility (including continued eligibility) of any individual to enroll under the terms of the plan based on any of the following health status-related factors in relation to the individual or a dependent of the individual:

    (A) Health status.

    (B) Medical condition (including both physical and mental illnesses).

    (C) Claims experience.

    (D) Receipt of health care.

    (E) Medical history.

    (F) Genetic information.

    (G) Evidence of insurability (including conditions arising out of acts of domestic violence).

    (H) Disability."


    Now, what part of that has anything at all to do with what you're talking about???

    Honestly, given the gross inaccuracy of the first 4 points, combined with the bad link, I'm not even going to bother doing the research on the rest.

    Did some right-wing propaganda machine send this to you in an e-mail? You should always check your sources. When it comes to propaganda like this, they're lying at least 80% of the time.
     

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