Opinions turn favorable on Healthcare Plan

[rightwinger]

Opinions turn favorable on health care plan - USATODAY.com

WASHINGTON — Americans by 9 percentage points have a favorable view of the health care overhaul that President Obama signed into law Tuesday, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, a notable turnaround from surveys before the vote that showed a plurality against it.
By 49%-40% those surveyed say it was "a good thing" rather than a bad one that Congress passed the bill. Half describe their reaction in positive terms, as "enthusiastic" or "pleased," while about four in 10 describe it in negative ways, as "disappointed" or "angry."

The largest single group, 48%, calls the bill "a good first step" that should be followed by more action on health care. An additional 4% also have a favorable view, saying the bill makes the most important changes needed in the nation's health care system



What were Republicans saying about Waterloo?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

With this kind of track record?




Medicare (hospital insurance). In 1965, as Congress considered legislation to establish a national Medicare program, the House Ways and Means Committee estimated that the hospital insurance portion of the program, Part A, would cost about $9 billion annually by 1990.v Actual Part A spending in 1990 was $67 billion. The actuary who provided the original cost estimates acknowledged in 1994 that, even after conservatively discounting for the unexpectedly high inflation rates of the early ‘70s and other factors, “the actual [Part A] experience was 165% higher than the estimate.”

Medicare (entire program). In 1967, the House Ways and Means Committee predicted that the new Medicare program, launched the previous year, would cost about $12 billion in 1990. Actual Medicare spending in 1990 was $110 billion—off by nearly a factor of 10.

Medicaid DSH program. In 1987, Congress estimated that Medicaid’s disproportionate share hospital (DSH) payments—which states use to provide relief to hospitals that serve especially large numbers of Medicaid and uninsured patients—would cost less than $1 billion in 1992. The actual cost that year was a staggering $17 billion. Among other things, federal lawmakers had failed to detect loopholes in the legislation that enabled states to draw significantly more money from the federal treasury than they would otherwise have been entitled to claim under the program’s traditional 50-50 funding scheme.

Medicare home care benefit. When Congress debated changes to Medicare’s home care benefit in 1988, the projected 1993 cost of the benefit was $4 billion. The actual 1993 cost was more than twice that amount, $10 billion.

Medicare catastrophic coverage benefit. In 1988, Congress added a catastrophic coverage benefit to Medicare, to take effect in 1990. In July 1989, the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) doubled its cost estimate for the program, for the four-year period 1990-1993, from $5.7 billion to $11.8 billion. CBO explained that it had received newer data showing it had significantly under-estimated prescription drug cost growth, and it warned Congress that even this revised estimate might be too low. This was a principal reason Congress repealed the program before it could take effect.

SCHIP. In 1997, Congress established the State Children’s Health Insurance Program as a capped grant program to states, and appropriated $40 billion to be doled out to states over 10 years at a rate of roughly $5 billion per year, once implemented. In each year, some states exceeded their allotments, requiring shifts of funds from other states that had not done so. By 2006, unspent reserves from prior years were nearly exhausted. To avert mass disenrollments, Congress decided to appropriate an additional $283 million in FY 2006 and an additional $650 million in FY 2007.

http://jec.senate.gov/republicans/p...orm_Cost_Estimates_Reliable__July_31_2009.pdf

What could possibly go wrong?

 

[manu1959]

gotta love the swing voters....they were firmly against it before they were firmly for it....

 

[rightwinger]

How is that Republican Landslide in November looking now?

 

[Oscar Wao]

Because only the seemingly good stuff is being advertised.

When you go to a seafood restaurant like Red Lobster, you're shown the advertisements of hot, fresh cheddar biscuits and fresh, tasty seafood. However, some of those restaurants may have biscuits that are old and stale from the previous day's batch, the food may be cold, the waiters/waitresses may be nasty and give you sucky service, etc.

Same thing here.

 

[manu1959]

How is that Republican Landslide in November looking now?

don't care....both sides are idiots....have been for decades....

 

[Oscar Wao]

How is that Republican Landslide in November looking now?

Parties lose seats when the leader of their same party holds the executive position; that's history.

So don't sit back and relax now, leftwinger.

 

[Oscar Wao]

Amen, manu. I'm just arguing history, heh.

I can't wait till the day we are a multi-party system.

 

[masquerade]

Opinions turn favorable on health care plan - USATODAY.com

WASHINGTON — Americans by 9 percentage points have a favorable view of the health care overhaul that President Obama signed into law Tuesday, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, a notable turnaround from surveys before the vote that showed a plurality against it.
By 49%-40% those surveyed say it was "a good thing" rather than a bad one that Congress passed the bill. Half describe their reaction in positive terms, as "enthusiastic" or "pleased," while about four in 10 describe it in negative ways, as "disappointed" or "angry."

The largest single group, 48%, calls the bill "a good first step" that should be followed by more action on health care. An additional 4% also have a favorable view, saying the bill makes the most important changes needed in the nation's health care system



What were Republicans saying about Waterloo?

Until that one day when they wake up and realize all their freedoms have been taken away and the America they once loved is gone. They'll wonder what happened and where did things go wrong. They'll wonder how and when did the government take over every fucking aspect of their lives from right underneath their noses. After sometime thinking about it, they'll most likely blame Bush.

 

[rightwinger]

How is that Republican Landslide in November looking now?

Parties lose seats when the leader of their same party holds the executive position; that's history.

So don't sit back and relax now, leftwinger.

I've always admitted that there would be a mid term adjustment in 2010. However, the claims of an unprecidented Republican landslide where they take back both houses is not going to happen.

With 49% favorability rating let the Republicans run on platforms that they will repeal the Bill. Then they will give the dems a super-majority again

 

[Oscar Wao]

Well, I'm not on board that the Dems are going to lose 150 seats, lol. Maybe in about 6 years time, at least, but not now or in 2012.

And repealing Obama's health plan won't necessarily be a liability for them, although I'm not banking on their claims to do so. These court challenges and/or nullifcation is the best trust I have for this happening.

 

[Samson]

Opinions turn favorable on health care plan - USATODAY.com

WASHINGTON — Americans by 9 percentage points have a favorable view of the health care overhaul that President Obama signed into law Tuesday, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, a notable turnaround from surveys before the vote that showed a plurality against it.
By 49%-40% those surveyed say it was "a good thing" rather than a bad one that Congress passed the bill. Half describe their reaction in positive terms, as "enthusiastic" or "pleased," while about four in 10 describe it in negative ways, as "disappointed" or "angry."

The largest single group, 48%, calls the bill "a good first step" that should be followed by more action on health care. An additional 4% also have a favorable view, saying the bill makes the most important changes needed in the nation's health care system



What were Republicans saying about Waterloo?

Apparently a "notable" number of USA Today readers would say anything if USA Today would STFU about Healthcare Reform

 

[rightwinger]

Well, I'm not on board that the Dems are going to lose 150 seats, lol. Maybe in about 6 years time, at least, but not now or in 2012.

And repealing Obama's health plan won't necessarily be a liability for them, although I'm not banking on their claims to do so. These court challenges and/or nullifcation is the best trust I have for this happening.

Republicans will treat this Healthcare Bill the same way they treat Abortion. They will bitch about it every election but do nothing about it

 

[Oscar Wao]

Like I said.

The Court challenges and Nullification legislations are the best they will do, IMO

 

[Care4all]

Because only the seemingly good stuff is being advertised.

When you go to a seafood restaurant like Red Lobster, you're shown the advertisements of hot, fresh cheddar biscuits and fresh, tasty seafood. However, some of those restaurants may have biscuits that are old and stale from the previous day's batch, the food may be cold, the waiters/waitresses may be nasty and give you sucky service, etc.

Same thing here.

or it could be a scary looking shack on the outside and much to your surprise it was a delectable dinner and the service was really good!

 

[uptownlivin90]

Americans are principless idiots. What else is new? I tried to tell the tea party folks... they didn't listen. They keep thinking "the people" are on their side. "The people" are to stupid to pick a side... damn shame.