what so bad about socialism

[Freiheit]

I really thought I would have more support than this. Liberal's don't like free stuff sir, but we don't like people so suffer, and we do want everyone living outside of poverty, and enjoying there lives. I encourage anyone with very different views to please google happiest countries in the world, and see the results. Then spend some time looking that there politics, benefits, and rights... You might be surprised what you find.

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I really thought I would have more support than this. Liberal's don't like free stuff sir, but we don't like people so suffer, and we do want everyone living outside of poverty, and enjoying there lives. I encourage anyone with very different views to please google happiest countries in the world, and see the results. Then spend some time looking that there politics, benefits, and rights... You might be surprised what you find.

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Merriam Webster Dictionary

Full Definition of SOCIALISM

1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property
b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

What you have listed are states with extensive welfare benefits. Surprisingly the Swiss have more moderate welfare benefits than most of those listed. The Socialist states existent are
1. China
2.The Lao Peoples Democratic Republic
3.The Socialist Republic of Vietnam
4.The Republic of Cuba
Where do they rate on your happiness list.

 

[danielpalos]

Why do those of the opposing view plead so specially, from a dictionary instead of an encyclopedia?

 

[Conservative65]

I've seen and experienced great things in countries that are more geared to socialism. The happiest rated countries in the world are all highly socialistic countries. Why can't we do what we already know that works?

Because it doesn't work. Redistribution of wealth from one that earned to one that didn't is a failed policy.

 

[Freiheit]

Why do those of the opposing view plead so specially, from a dictionary instead of an encyclopedia?

Why not, definitions are both definite and clear. If you have a problem with the definition take it up with the editors of Merriam Webster.
If the definition doesn't fit your parameters sharpen your ability to both understand and speak English.

 

[danielpalos]

Why do those of the opposing view plead so specially, from a dictionary instead of an encyclopedia?

Why not, definitions are both definite and clear. If you have a problem with the definition take it up with the editors of Merriam Webster.
If the definition doesn't fit your parameters sharpen your ability to both understand and speak English.

Because, it is special pleading if we have to quibble what socialism is. You have to use an encyclopedia if you are going to quibble, or you are merely full of fallacy.

 

[Freiheit]

Why do those of the opposing view plead so specially, from a dictionary instead of an encyclopedia?

Why not, definitions are both definite and clear. If you have a problem with the definition take it up with the editors of Merriam Webster.
If the definition doesn't fit your parameters sharpen your ability to both understand and speak English.

Because, it is special pleading if we have to quibble what socialism is. You have to use an encyclopedia if you are going to quibble, or you are merely full of fallacy.

Who made you the arbiter of this discussion board. The Merriam Webster Dictionary provides a succinct clear and definite definition of the word and is a reference work accepted and distributed by the US government. Your pathetic attempt at obfuscation in place of refutation or answer is just that pathetic. I challenge you to prove the Merriam Webster definition is "full of fallacy".

 

[Freiheit]

Why do those of the opposing view plead so specially, from a dictionary instead of an encyclopedia?

Why not, definitions are both definite and clear. If you have a problem with the definition take it up with the editors of Merriam Webster.
If the definition doesn't fit your parameters sharpen your ability to both understand and speak English.

Because, it is special pleading if we have to quibble what socialism is. You have to use an encyclopedia if you are going to quibble, or you are merely full of fallacy.

How is referencing a widely accepted reference work a special pleading?

 

[danielpalos]

Why do those of the opposing view plead so specially, from a dictionary instead of an encyclopedia?

Why not, definitions are both definite and clear. If you have a problem with the definition take it up with the editors of Merriam Webster.
If the definition doesn't fit your parameters sharpen your ability to both understand and speak English.

Because, it is special pleading if we have to quibble what socialism is. You have to use an encyclopedia if you are going to quibble, or you are merely full of fallacy.

Who made you the arbiter of this discussion board. The Merriam Webster Dictionary provides a succinct clear and definite definition of the word and is a reference work accepted and distributed by the US government. Your pathetic attempt at obfuscation in place of refutation or answer is just that pathetic. I challenge you to prove the Merriam Webster definition is "full of fallacy".

Why not reference an encyclopedia?

 

[danielpalos]

Why do those of the opposing view plead so specially, from a dictionary instead of an encyclopedia?

Why not, definitions are both definite and clear. If you have a problem with the definition take it up with the editors of Merriam Webster.
If the definition doesn't fit your parameters sharpen your ability to both understand and speak English.

Because, it is special pleading if we have to quibble what socialism is. You have to use an encyclopedia if you are going to quibble, or you are merely full of fallacy.

How is referencing a widely accepted reference work a special pleading?

It is an inaccurate authority and doesn't explain what socislm is.

 

[Freiheit]

Be so kind as to provide authoritative sources pointing to inaccuracies. "Explanations" are inaccurate in most cases due to bias.
Unless and until you provide authoritative sources as the the inaccuracy of the Merriam Webster dictionary I categorically reject your
argument and will ignore any further comment from you.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Why do those of the opposing view plead so specially, from a dictionary instead of an encyclopedia?

Why not, definitions are both definite and clear. If you have a problem with the definition take it up with the editors of Merriam Webster.
If the definition doesn't fit your parameters sharpen your ability to both understand and speak English.

Because, it is special pleading if we have to quibble what socialism is. You have to use an encyclopedia if you are going to quibble, or you are merely full of fallacy.

How is referencing a widely accepted reference work a special pleading?

It is an inaccurate authority and doesn't explain what socislm is.

yes a dictionary will leave out that the more socialist a country is the more its people are likely to starve to death! Daniel spents 100% of his time on the meaning of his own language and never once gets to substance.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Why do those of the opposing view plead so specially, from a dictionary instead of an encyclopedia?

Why not, definitions are both definite and clear. If you have a problem with the definition take it up with the editors of Merriam Webster.
If the definition doesn't fit your parameters sharpen your ability to both understand and speak English.

Because, it is special pleading if we have to quibble what socialism is. You have to use an encyclopedia if you are going to quibble, or you are merely full of fallacy.

How is referencing a widely accepted reference work a special pleading?

It is an inaccurate authority and doesn't explain what socislm is.

yes a dictionary will leave out that the more socialist a country is the more its people are likely to starve to death! Daniel spents 100% of his time on the meaning of is own language and never once gets to substance.

Pussy.

 

[Freiheit]

Why not, definitions are both definite and clear. If you have a problem with the definition take it up with the editors of Merriam Webster.
If the definition doesn't fit your parameters sharpen your ability to both understand and speak English.

Because, it is special pleading if we have to quibble what socialism is. You have to use an encyclopedia if you are going to quibble, or you are merely full of fallacy.

How is referencing a widely accepted reference work a special pleading?

It is an inaccurate authority and doesn't explain what socislm is.

yes a dictionary will leave out that the more socialist a country is the more its people are likely to starve to death! Daniel spents 100% of his time on the meaning of is own language and never once gets to substance.

Pussy.

I am stunned by the perspicacity and relevance of your statement.

 

[danielpalos]

Be so kind as to provide authoritative sources pointing to inaccuracies. "Explanations" are inaccurate in most cases due to bias.
Unless and until you provide authoritative sources as the the inaccuracy of the Merriam Webster dictionary I categorically reject your
argument and will ignore any further comment from you.

Nothing but fallacy of appealing to ignorance by not citing an encyclopedia that supports your contention.

my assertions are self-evident truths, except to the clueless, the Causeless, and the right.

 

[danielpalos]

Why do those of the opposing view plead so specially, from a dictionary instead of an encyclopedia?

Why not, definitions are both definite and clear. If you have a problem with the definition take it up with the editors of Merriam Webster.
If the definition doesn't fit your parameters sharpen your ability to both understand and speak English.

Because, it is special pleading if we have to quibble what socialism is. You have to use an encyclopedia if you are going to quibble, or you are merely full of fallacy.

How is referencing a widely accepted reference work a special pleading?

It is an inaccurate authority and doesn't explain what socislm is.

yes a dictionary will leave out that the more socialist a country is the more its people are likely to starve to death! Daniel spents 100% of his time on the meaning of his own language and never once gets to substance.

dear, put up an encyclopedic reference or cede the point and the argument, due to simple shillery of not having a clue or a Cause.

 

[Freiheit]

The countries mentioned in the OP have market economies except for Norway which has a mixied economy (oil industry nationalized).
Several have extensive welfare benefits. None are socialist. All except Canada have small homogeneous populations. The article the OP is based on did not elucidate the methodology used making a determination of what contributes to happiness difficult.

 

[Freiheit]

Be so kind as to provide authoritative sources pointing to inaccuracies. "Explanations" are inaccurate in most cases due to bias.
Unless and until you provide authoritative sources as the the inaccuracy of the Merriam Webster dictionary I categorically reject your
argument and will ignore any further comment from you.

Nothing but fallacy of appealing to ignorance by not citing an encyclopedia that supports your contention.

my assertions are self-evident truths, except to the clueless, the Causeless, and the right.

 

[Freiheit]

Be so kind as to provide authoritative sources pointing to inaccuracies. "Explanations" are inaccurate in most cases due to bias.
Unless and until you provide authoritative sources as the the inaccuracy of the Merriam Webster dictionary I categorically reject your
argument and will ignore any further comment from you.

Nothing but fallacy of appealing to ignorance by not citing an encyclopedia that supports your contention.

my assertions are self-evident truths, except to the clueless, the Causeless, and the right.

Self evident is not authoritative. Reference works are authoritative.

Why not, definitions are both definite and clear. If you have a problem with the definition take it up with the editors of Merriam Webster.
If the definition doesn't fit your parameters sharpen your ability to both understand and speak English.

Because, it is special pleading if we have to quibble what socialism is. You have to use an encyclopedia if you are going to quibble, or you are merely full of fallacy.

How is referencing a widely accepted reference work a special pleading?

It is an inaccurate authority and doesn't explain what socislm is.

yes a dictionary will leave out that the more socialist a country is the more its people are likely to starve to death! Daniel spents 100% of his time on the meaning of his own language and never once gets to substance.

dear, put up an encyclopedic reference or cede the point and the argument, due to simple shillery of not having a clue or a Cause.

You are now using a special pleading. Without using an authoritative reference you are just, as my grandfather said,"just flapping your jaws".

 

[Freiheit]

Be so kind as to provide authoritative sources pointing to inaccuracies. "Explanations" are inaccurate in most cases due to bias.
Unless and until you provide authoritative sources as the the inaccuracy of the Merriam Webster dictionary I categorically reject your
argument and will ignore any further comment from you.

Nothing but fallacy of appealing to ignorance by not citing an encyclopedia that supports your contention.

my assertions are self-evident truths, except to the clueless, the Causeless, and the right.

Self evident is not authoritative. Reference works are authoritative.

Because, it is special pleading if we have to quibble what socialism is. You have to use an encyclopedia if you are going to quibble, or you are merely full of fallacy.

How is referencing a widely accepted reference work a special pleading?

It is an inaccurate authority and doesn't explain what socislm is.

yes a dictionary will leave out that the more socialist a country is the more its people are likely to starve to death! Daniel spents 100% of his time on the meaning of his own language and never once gets to substance.

dear, put up an encyclopedic reference or cede the point and the argument, due to simple shillery of not having a clue or a Cause.

You are now using a special pleading. Without using an authoritative reference you are just, as my grandfather said,"just flapping your jaws".

When you have something of substance to add please do so otherwise curb your bleating.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

my assertions are self-evident truths,

it is self-evident that socialism killed 120 million and some are still deranged enough to want to try it again and then nazism next!