What should happen to US-born kids of illegal aliens being deported?

[Barbasiewiczfan]

You will hear, "Don't hold the children accountable for the crimes of their parents".
How come myself and any children I have into the future are being held accountable for the sins of slave-holders who died over 100 years ago ? We, non dark shinned people, are to be gotten even with and outright punished for slavery. Accused of "White privilege" as a result of our benefits from slavery, non dark skinned people are ALL accused of being racists. This is pre-judging which is the definition of prejudice, but it's ok because you are a victim, NOT. I've been accused of being a racist for just entering the room, by people who don't know me but say the know my true intentions and beliefs. Mind readers they must be.

 

[Conservative65]

Since their legal status is solely because of an illegal act by their parents, the legal status makes no sense. We wouldn't let bank robbers keep the money they stole because they were trying to "better their family" yet many will support illegals coming here claiming the same thing.

 

[Conservative65]

How come myself and any children I have into the future are being held accountable for the sins of slave-holders who died over 100 years ago

On top of that, those of us whose family didn't come to the U.S. until after 1900 are held accountable for what happened before they got here because we happen to be the same color.

 

[Conservative65]

The kids go with their parents back to the parents' homeland.

They should be deported, with their parents, stripped of citizenship awarded by a perversion of the 14th Amendments well intentioned protection of the descendants of slaves, and implanted with micro-chips and tracked.

If they come back, jail them.

One minor point of law needs to be done first...change the 14th amendment.

What needs to be done is for people like you to study history and know that the intent when it was written wasn't that nor was it intended to do that. Bleeding hearts have interpreted it that way.

 

[Conservative65]

Why do you do with a child lets say 6 years old who is left behind by parents who are deported?

Who said it is up to "me" to do anything with those kids? Or, alternatively, up the the US Government?

The kids' parents are responsible for the kids' predicament. It is their responsibility to make arrangements for their kids. Not some faceless government bureau.

What have the PARENTS planned for their own kids?

I didn't bring them here. I didn't commit a crime so they would be given legal status. Let the ones that created the situation by having them here when they committed a crime to do so deal with them. If anyone here wants to deal with them, let them do it privately and individually. Taxpayer money should not be involved.

 

[Conservative65]

The parents can take their children home. The children aren't only citizens of the US. They also have the citizenship of their home country just as if they were born there.

That's one of the choices available to the illegal alien parents.

But why do we get all the screaming that the Federal Government is the one "breaking up the families" of the illegal aliens?

The illegal aliens knew the law when they first came here (or overstayed their visas). And they knew them when they produced kids while being here illegally. Putting their kids in this situation was the parents' idea from the beginning.

Now what do those illegal alien parents plan to do with their children?

Those doing the screaming don't seem to get that those kids going with their parents would be citizens where they go

 

[AmericanFirst]

It's a pretty common scenario today. Illegal alien parents who produced kids in the U.S., get busted and deported. What happens to their U.S. citizen kids? Especially young kids, barely past toddler stage?

An adult man crosses the border illegally, and lives here. He marries someone, say another illegal alien. They have kids here. The kids are U.S. citizens under the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, since they were born on U.S. soil.

Then the man (and maybe his wife) get busted by ICE, proven to be illegal aliens (which they in fact are), and get listed for deportation.

What happens to the kids?

The kids are U.S. citizens, no doubt about it. ICE has no grounds whatever for deporting them. But the parents are unquestionably illegal aliens, and the law is clear, the parents must be deported. Must the family be broken up? Who says so?

I've hear some people protest that it's inhuman for ICE to separate the kids (who are, say, 3 and 4 years old by now) from their parents. But is it ICE who is actually doing that?

This man knew before he ever came here, that he was breaking U.S. law, and was subject to deportation if caught. And his wife, if she is also an illegal alien, knew the same about herself. And when they were making kids here on U.S. soil and delivering them, they knew the same was still true.

It's not ICE who is planning to split up this family. It is the man and his wife, knowing that he and she might be booted out at any time for breaking U.S. immigration law, and that any kids they produced while living illegally in America, would be citizens NOT subject to deporation. They knew all these things going in. And one must assume they planned for them. (If they didn't plan, whose fault is that?)

So, what did this man and his wife plan would happen to their U.S. kids if and when they (the parents) got busted and deported? What plans did they make about what should happen to their kids? The kids are 3 and 4 years old now. They are considered U.S. citizens and have the legal right to stay in this country. Of course, they can't stay alone in the house their parents were just deported out of, if there are no other responsible adults around - the kids are just 3 and 4 years old. Of course, the kids also have the legal right to go with their parents back to the parents' home country.

The parents knew going in, that their own deportation was possible and legal... and even just. WHAT DID THEY PLAN FOR THEIR KIDS if that were to happen to them?

Did they plan that those kids would come back to the parents' home country with them? Or did they plan that the kids would stay with other (legal) family, however distantly related, in the U.S.? Or...? What DID these parents plan, for the time when the parents got busted?

Where does anyone get the idea that the government is responsible for the kids?

The parents are responsible for their kids. What have they planned?

It's a pretty common scenario today. Illegal alien parents who produced kids in the U.S., get busted and deported. What happens to their U.S. citizen kids? Especially young kids, barely past toddler stage?

An adult man crosses the border illegally, and lives here. He marries someone, say another illegal alien. They have kids here. The kids are U.S. citizens under the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, since they were born on U.S. soil.

Then the man (and maybe his wife) get busted by ICE, proven to be illegal aliens (which they in fact are), and get listed for deportation.

What happens to the kids?

The kids are U.S. citizens, no doubt about it. ICE has no grounds whatever for deporting them. But the parents are unquestionably illegal aliens, and the law is clear, the parents must be deported. Must the family be broken up? Who says so?

I've hear some people protest that it's inhuman for ICE to separate the kids (who are, say, 3 and 4 years old by now) from their parents. But is it ICE who is actually doing that?

This man knew before he ever came here, that he was breaking U.S. law, and was subject to deportation if caught. And his wife, if she is also an illegal alien, knew the same about herself. And when they were making kids here on U.S. soil and delivering them, they knew the same was still true.

It's not ICE who is planning to split up this family. It is the man and his wife, knowing that he and she might be booted out at any time for breaking U.S. immigration law, and that any kids they produced while living illegally in America, would be citizens NOT subject to deporation. They knew all these things going in. And one must assume they planned for them. (If they didn't plan, whose fault is that?)

So, what did this man and his wife plan would happen to their U.S. kids if and when they (the parents) got busted and deported? What plans did they make about what should happen to their kids? The kids are 3 and 4 years old now. They are considered U.S. citizens and have the legal right to stay in this country. Of course, they can't stay alone in the house their parents were just deported out of, if there are no other responsible adults around - the kids are just 3 and 4 years old. Of course, the kids also have the legal right to go with their parents back to the parents' home country.

The parents knew going in, that their own deportation was possible and legal... and even just. WHAT DID THEY PLAN FOR THEIR KIDS if that were to happen to them?

Did they plan that those kids would come back to the parents' home country with them? Or did they plan that the kids would stay with other (legal) family, however distantly related, in the U.S.? Or...? What DID these parents plan, for the time when the parents got busted?

Where does anyone get the idea that the government is responsible for the kids?

The parents are responsible for their kids. What have they planned?

Kids go with the parents. Parents chose to come here illegally and have kids just to gain citizenship, they scammed the libtards who feel bad.

 

[Unkotare]

... the kids should get automatic citizenship because they were born here...

Just like the way you got your citizenship?

 

[Unkotare]

How come myself and any children I have into the future are being held accountable for the sins of slave-holders who died over 100 years ago ?...

You're not. Relax.

 

[Unkotare]

On top of that, those of us whose family didn't come to the U.S. until after 1900 are held accountable for what happened before they got here ...

No you're not.

 

[Publius1787]

It's a pretty common scenario today. Illegal alien parents who produced kids in the U.S., get busted and deported. What happens to their U.S. citizen kids? Especially young kids, barely past toddler stage?

An adult man crosses the border illegally, and lives here. He marries someone, say another illegal alien. They have kids here. The kids are U.S. citizens under the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, since they were born on U.S. soil.

Then the man (and maybe his wife) get busted by ICE, proven to be illegal aliens (which they in fact are), and get listed for deportation.

What happens to the kids?

The kids are U.S. citizens, no doubt about it. ICE has no grounds whatever for deporting them. But the parents are unquestionably illegal aliens, and the law is clear, the parents must be deported. Must the family be broken up? Who says so?

I've hear some people protest that it's inhuman for ICE to separate the kids (who are, say, 3 and 4 years old by now) from their parents. But is it ICE who is actually doing that?

This man knew before he ever came here, that he was breaking U.S. law, and was subject to deportation if caught. And his wife, if she is also an illegal alien, knew the same about herself. And when they were making kids here on U.S. soil and delivering them, they knew the same was still true.

It's not ICE who is planning to split up this family. It is the man and his wife, knowing that he and she might be booted out at any time for breaking U.S. immigration law, and that any kids they produced while living illegally in America, would be citizens NOT subject to deporation. They knew all these things going in. And one must assume they planned for them. (If they didn't plan, whose fault is that?)

So, what did this man and his wife plan would happen to their U.S. kids if and when they (the parents) got busted and deported? What plans did they make about what should happen to their kids? The kids are 3 and 4 years old now. They are considered U.S. citizens and have the legal right to stay in this country. Of course, they can't stay alone in the house their parents were just deported out of, if there are no other responsible adults around - the kids are just 3 and 4 years old. Of course, the kids also have the legal right to go with their parents back to the parents' home country.

The parents knew going in, that their own deportation was possible and legal... and even just. WHAT DID THEY PLAN FOR THEIR KIDS if that were to happen to them?

Did they plan that those kids would come back to the parents' home country with them? Or did they plan that the kids would stay with other (legal) family, however distantly related, in the U.S.? Or...? What DID these parents plan, for the time when the parents got busted?

Where does anyone get the idea that the government is responsible for the kids?

The parents are responsible for their kids. What have they planned?

1) We should rewrite the provision in the 14th Amendment to forbid citizenship to those children born of illegal immigrants.
2) We should grant amnesty to parents of US citizens without the possibility of parental citizenship.
3) We should deport every family that comes in afterwards.

 

[Oldglory1]

It's a pretty common scenario today. Illegal alien parents who produced kids in the U.S., get busted and deported. What happens to their U.S. citizen kids? Especially young kids, barely past toddler stage?

An adult man crosses the border illegally, and lives here. He marries someone, say another illegal alien. They have kids here. The kids are U.S. citizens under the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, since they were born on U.S. soil.

Then the man (and maybe his wife) get busted by ICE, proven to be illegal aliens (which they in fact are), and get listed for deportation.

What happens to the kids?

The kids are U.S. citizens, no doubt about it. ICE has no grounds whatever for deporting them. But the parents are unquestionably illegal aliens, and the law is clear, the parents must be deported. Must the family be broken up? Who says so?

I've hear some people protest that it's inhuman for ICE to separate the kids (who are, say, 3 and 4 years old by now) from their parents. But is it ICE who is actually doing that?

This man knew before he ever came here, that he was breaking U.S. law, and was subject to deportation if caught. And his wife, if she is also an illegal alien, knew the same about herself. And when they were making kids here on U.S. soil and delivering them, they knew the same was still true.

It's not ICE who is planning to split up this family. It is the man and his wife, knowing that he and she might be booted out at any time for breaking U.S. immigration law, and that any kids they produced while living illegally in America, would be citizens NOT subject to deporation. They knew all these things going in. And one must assume they planned for them. (If they didn't plan, whose fault is that?)

So, what did this man and his wife plan would happen to their U.S. kids if and when they (the parents) got busted and deported? What plans did they make about what should happen to their kids? The kids are 3 and 4 years old now. They are considered U.S. citizens and have the legal right to stay in this country. Of course, they can't stay alone in the house their parents were just deported out of, if there are no other responsible adults around - the kids are just 3 and 4 years old. Of course, the kids also have the legal right to go with their parents back to the parents' home country.

The parents knew going in, that their own deportation was possible and legal... and even just. WHAT DID THEY PLAN FOR THEIR KIDS if that were to happen to them?

Did they plan that those kids would come back to the parents' home country with them? Or did they plan that the kids would stay with other (legal) family, however distantly related, in the U.S.? Or...? What DID these parents plan, for the time when the parents got busted?

Where does anyone get the idea that the government is responsible for the kids?

The parents are responsible for their kids. What have they planned?

1) We should rewrite the provision in the 14th Amendment to forbid citizenship to those children born of illegal immigrants.
2) We should grant amnesty to parents of US citizens without the possibility of parental citizenship.
3) We should deport every family that comes in afterwards.

I totally disagree with number 2. Just because illegal aliens managed to drop an anchor on our soil should not entitled the parents to remain here.

 

[Conservative65]

On top of that, those of us whose family didn't come to the U.S. until after 1900 are held accountable for what happened before they got here ...

No you're not.

Apparently you haven't heard those who do use terms like "white privilege" and "reparations".

 

[Unkotare]

Apparently you haven't heard those who do use terms like "white privilege" and "reparations".

"Terms"? Terms?!!!!!!!!!! Good lord, not TERMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, you poor, traumatized victim! How are you dealing with the soul-crushing horror of "those who do use terms"? This is just SHOCKING news! I know that many servicemen returning from war suffer with PTSD, but that must only pale in comparison with the damage your psyche has endured from "those who do use terms"!

 

[Conservative65]

Apparently you haven't heard those who do use terms like "white privilege" and "reparations".

"Terms"? Terms?!!!!!!!!!! Good lord, not TERMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh, you poor, traumatized victim! How are you dealing with the soul-crushing horror of "those who do use terms"? This is just SHOCKING news! I know that many servicemen returning from war suffer with PTSD, but that must only pale in comparison with the damage your psyche has endured from "those who do use terms"!

Typical smartass. It's not the terms. It's people using them that vote politicians into office who are willing to do things under the guise of those terms. Programs like affirmative action came about because of the term "white privilege". If it were just the terms, it wouldn't be a problem. When bleeding hearts enact legislation that put those terms to use, it's a problem. Sorry you can't grasp that simple concept.

 

[Unkotare]

It's not the terms. It's people using them that vote politicians into office ....

Oh, so the real problem is that people other than yourself are allowed to vote! That's a tough one. That ol' 15th Amendment gettin' ya down, son? You sure do have a lot of problems. Must be hard being a victim like yourself.

 

[Conservative65]

It's a pretty common scenario today. Illegal alien parents who produced kids in the U.S., get busted and deported. What happens to their U.S. citizen kids? Especially young kids, barely past toddler stage?

An adult man crosses the border illegally, and lives here. He marries someone, say another illegal alien. They have kids here. The kids are U.S. citizens under the current interpretation of the 14th amendment, since they were born on U.S. soil.

Then the man (and maybe his wife) get busted by ICE, proven to be illegal aliens (which they in fact are), and get listed for deportation.

What happens to the kids?

The kids are U.S. citizens, no doubt about it. ICE has no grounds whatever for deporting them. But the parents are unquestionably illegal aliens, and the law is clear, the parents must be deported. Must the family be broken up? Who says so?

I've hear some people protest that it's inhuman for ICE to separate the kids (who are, say, 3 and 4 years old by now) from their parents. But is it ICE who is actually doing that?

This man knew before he ever came here, that he was breaking U.S. law, and was subject to deportation if caught. And his wife, if she is also an illegal alien, knew the same about herself. And when they were making kids here on U.S. soil and delivering them, they knew the same was still true.

It's not ICE who is planning to split up this family. It is the man and his wife, knowing that he and she might be booted out at any time for breaking U.S. immigration law, and that any kids they produced while living illegally in America, would be citizens NOT subject to deporation. They knew all these things going in. And one must assume they planned for them. (If they didn't plan, whose fault is that?)

So, what did this man and his wife plan would happen to their U.S. kids if and when they (the parents) got busted and deported? What plans did they make about what should happen to their kids? The kids are 3 and 4 years old now. They are considered U.S. citizens and have the legal right to stay in this country. Of course, they can't stay alone in the house their parents were just deported out of, if there are no other responsible adults around - the kids are just 3 and 4 years old. Of course, the kids also have the legal right to go with their parents back to the parents' home country.

The parents knew going in, that their own deportation was possible and legal... and even just. WHAT DID THEY PLAN FOR THEIR KIDS if that were to happen to them?

Did they plan that those kids would come back to the parents' home country with them? Or did they plan that the kids would stay with other (legal) family, however distantly related, in the U.S.? Or...? What DID these parents plan, for the time when the parents got busted?

Where does anyone get the idea that the government is responsible for the kids?

The parents are responsible for their kids. What have they planned?

1) We should rewrite the provision in the 14th Amendment to forbid citizenship to those children born of illegal immigrants.
2) We should grant amnesty to parents of US citizens without the possibility of parental citizenship.
3) We should deport every family that comes in afterwards.

Agree except with the part in #2 about parents being given amnesty. If we don't do #1, #2 isn't a consideration . What you described is typical. Someone breaks the laws and enforcing them causes a situation they don't like yet they blame it on those enforcing the laws rather their own actions. Seems they don't understand had they not broken the law, nothing related to the situation would have occurred. If they don't come illegally and have kids, they don't get deported and the family is separated.

Interesting thing on this concept is those in the country that support the parents staying because it will separate families don't have a problem imprisoning a person that robbed a bank. It does the same thing yet they don't seem to understand that both are crimes that if they aren't committed, what happens after that doesn't occur.

 

[Unkotare]

You need to leave "family" out of your public display of stupidity, "dumbass." Don't make me tell you again, got it?

 

[Unkotare]

You must be one that benefited from AA thanks to some white person more qualified being turned down for something they earned.

And with that statement you officially pass the 'Internet Idiot Test.' You are now a certified Internet Idiot with 0% grasp of the most basic logic. Congratulations.

 

[Conservative65]

You must be one that benefited from AA thanks to some white person more qualified being turned down for something they earned.

And with that statement you officially pass the 'Internet Idiot Test.' You are now a certified Internet Idiot with 0% grasp of the most basic logic. Congratulations.

Since you have 0% worth to society or anyone in society, nothing you say really amounts to anything. Since you don't matter what you say doesn't matter or holds any validity. I grasp 100% of how affirmative action works. It gives those who couldn't do it on their own if their life depended on it a false sense of accomplishment as if they actually earned what they have but got it because of what they were born with. Must be sad for them to know, if they care, that they are where they are because someone more qualified wasn't the color they were.