What science and religion thought impossible has happened.

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    History now has it's first fully demonstrable proof for faith!

    The accumulating scandals shaking the roman catholic church, most recently in Belgium, and new investigations into the Vatican bank will look a mere trifle compared to the perfect storm that appears to be on the way. For these growing, worldwide sexual scandals, exposing the endemic institutional corruption of this tradition, while betraying thousands of children and the faithful, only reflect a far greater betrayal and crime against humanity itself and is setting the stage for the 'churches' worst nightmare: the questioning of it's very origins! And that has already started on the web. But not by any atheist ravings or theological discourse. We may very well come to remember the church as two thousands years of accumulated hubris and self deception, retailing a counterfeit copy of revealed truth.

    For on the horizon is approaching a religious and cultural furore so contentious, any clash of civilizations may have to wait. On one side, a manuscript titled: The Final Freedoms, against all the gravitas religious tradition can bring to bear.

    The first wholly new interpretation for 2000 years of the Gospel/moral teachings of Christ is on the web. Redefining all primary elements including Faith, the Word, Law, Baptism, the Trinity*and especially the Resurrection. Questioning the validity and*origins of all Christian tradition, and focusing specifically on marriage, love and human sexuality; it overturns all natural law ethics and theory. What history, philosophy, science and theology have agreed was not possible has happened and*at stake is the credibility of several thousand years of religious history.

    What first appears a counter intuitive challenge to the religious status quo, on closer examination contains a wisdom the theological history of religion either ignored, were unable to imagine or dismissed. An error of presumption which could now leave 'tradition' staring into the abyss and humble all secular, atheist* speculation.*

    Using a synthesis of scriptural material drawn from the Old and New Testaments, the Apocrypha , The Dead Sea Scrolls, The Nag Hammadi Library, and some of the world's great poetry, as in the beginning, it describes and teaches a single moral Law, a single moral principle, a single test of faith, and delivers on the Promise of its own proof; one in which the reality and will of God responds directly to an act of perfect faith with a demonstration of his omnipotence, an individual intervention into the natural world, 'raising' up the man,*correcting human nature by a change in natural law, altering biology, consciousness and human ethical perception beyond all natural evolutionary boundaries. Intended to be understood metaphorically, where 'death' and darkness are ignorance and 'Life' and light are knowledge,* this personal*experience of*omnipotent transcendent power and moral purpose is our 'Resurrection', and justification for faith. From here, on a perfectly objective foundation of moral principle, conduct and virtue, true morality and 'Life' begins.

    The first ever viable religious conception capable of leading reason, by faith, to observable consequences which can be tested and judged is now a reality. A teaching that delivers the first ever religious claim of insight into the human condition that meets the Enlightenment criteria of verifiable, direct cause and effect, evidence*based truth embodied in experience. For the first time in history, however unexpected, the world must contend with a claim to new revealed truth, a moral wisdom not of human intellectual origin, offering access by faith, to absolute proof, an objective basis for moral principle and a fully rational and justifiable belief!*

    This is 'religion' without any of the conventional embellished trappings of tradition. An individual, spiritual/virtue/ethical conception, independent of all cultural perception; contained within a single moral command and single Law that finds it's expression of obedience within a new covenant of marriage. It requires no institutional framework or hierarchy, churches or priest craft, no scholastic theological rational, dogma or doctrine, no ones permission and stripped of all theological myth,*‘worship’ requires only conviction, faith and the necessary measure of self discipline to accomplish a new, single, moral imperative and the integrity and fidelity to the new Divinely created reality.

    If confirmed and there appears a growing concerted effort to test and authenticate this material, this will represent a paradigm change in the nature of faith and in the moral and intellectual potential of human nature itself;* untangling the greatest* questions of human existence: sustainability, consciousness, meaning, suffering, free will and evil. And at the same time addressing the most profound problems of our age.

    Providing the 'means to ends'* this new teaching is asking humanity: choose the future you prefer? The status quo, with existing religious traditions, mired in their own contradictions, corruption, hypocrisy and hocus-pocus, offer little but pretensions and divisiveness, and where existing political process can only feebly respond by spin and whitewash, to the growing chaos of fear, more war, terrorism, economic turmoil, environmental degradation, injustice, natural disaster, plague and pandemic; or comprehend that human nature, prisoner to its evolutionary root, exists within fixed limits of understanding, and by taking new personal and moral responsibility, in a single change of mind, heart* and conduct, by faith, transcend those limits and blow the status quo strait to oblivion.*

    Trials of this new teaching are open to all and under way in many countries, colloquial evidence already suggest confirmations have and are taking place. For those individuals who can shake off their existing prejudices, imagine outside the cultural box of history, stand against the stream of fashionable thought and spin, who have the moral courage to learn something new and will TEST this revelation for themselves, an intellectual and moral revolution is already under way, where the 'impossible' becomes inevitable, by the most potent, political, Non Violent Direct Action any human being can take to advance peace, justice, change and progress.*

    As a newbie and not able to post links, check my profile and personal web page for further information.
     
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    How about, you actually explain what you are talking about rather than refering people to a website. Then you won't just be considered a troll and be seen as someone who is serious about discussion.
     
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    For the last two thousand years, what exists in history as 'religion' and tradition, particularly mono-theism is a 'faith' paradigm that demands acceptance of dogma and doctrine derived by a very human theological process. As such there is and never has been the means to demonstrate that such interpretations are either complete or a valid reflection of God will. Faith rests on the presumption that natural reason is able to comprehend the mind of God via interpretation of a scriptural record.

    Modern atheism and much secular thought have built on this inability to offer any evidence for either God or any objective moral principle revealed by God.

    Now a wholly new interpretation of the moral teaching of Christ exists, whereby the efficacy and veracity of the claim to speak and teach in God's name is confirmed absolutely by God with a direct and irrefutable intervention into the natural world.

    So it is beginning to look as if the last two thousand years of religious thought may very well prove to be humanities greatest own goal. It is now only a matter of time and numbers, to see how many will test and confirm the authenticity of the new teaching. I am one who is testing the teaching now.

    Any informed discussion requires checking out any of the sites offering free downloads of this new teaching. And while I can't use an active hyper link, most web savvy people should be able to work out the link in long hand. world wide web dot energon dot org dot uk
     
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    New teachings?

    Everyone wants new teachings. Like God has somehow changed the system strictly for our generations. As though the rules of Nature and Natures God that have been in place since the beginning of man are somehow different since we now live on the earth.

    Everyone makes this so much more complex than it is. "If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God who gives to all men liberally and upbraideth not. But ask in faith nothing wavering."

    There is one authority for everything: God. Go to Him. Learn for yourself at His feet. Prepare your mind and hearts for radical change in your life and just listen to God. You'd be very surprised what you get.
     
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    "Prepare your mind and hearts for radical change in your life and just listen to God"

    That is the very purpose of this new teaching. Although many use such language, if such a teaching already existed, it would be reflected in the cultural construction of our country and planet. That is not the way history is being written. What is more radical than: "correcting human nature by a change in natural law, altering biology, consciousness and human ethical perception beyond all natural evolutionary boundaries"?

    Given the potential impact of this teaching, well explained at the web link, it would be contrary to any measure of sound reasoning not to investigate the material further. Anyone who takes the time to download and print out this manuscript for study, and it demands serious study, can't help but being taken aback by the profound nature of understanding necessary to create this teaching.

    I have no doubt that these mere 374 odd pages are more than able to expose and bring down the last two thousand years of religious speculation we have called 'religion'. This is revolutionary stuff in the most literal sense!
     
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    New teachins? Ahh yes Palin was foretold by the bible.
     
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    Seems like Palen resides in your head.
    Better there than in DC.
     
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    Like it or not, history has turned a corner.

    Like all new insights seeking fertile ground to grow, there will those who lead, recognizing that new possibilities have been discovered, those who follow later as the body of evidence builds making old opinions unsustainable and those blinded by their own prejudices, a prisoner of the past and will not 'see' who must accept with the consequences of doing nothing.
     
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    You have me perhaps confused with the retiredgaysgt?
     
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    This is NOT the Klaatu that I knew in another dimension for sure.
    Unless Religion has sucked his brain out.
     

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