What needs to be done if we want to control guns

[rightwinger]

President Obama made a nice speech but other than some executive orders on gun registration and sharing of information, nothing will be done by Congress

The NRA has too much influence over Congress to get any gun legislation passed. Congress may huff and puff but nothing will be done

I grew up in the 50s and 60s. Half the people smoked and it was ridiculous to think Congress could do anything about smoking. Smoking was part of our culture and the smoking lobby was very powerful
Drunk Driving killed thousands of people a year. It was accepted that nothing could be done. Drinking was part of our culture and the alcohol lobby was very strong

What changed?

It was the people who got fed up. Grass roots movements against smoking and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving became politically powerful. Smoking and drunk driving no longer were socially acceptable. It became politically unfeasable to support smoking or lax drunk driving rules.
Public smoking was banned, drunk driving laws were made tougher and the rates of smoking and drunk driving decreased dramatically

If anything will be done on gun violence it will have to come from the American people and not the politicians. Strong grass roots movements need to rise up and say "Enough is enough". These movements need to go head to head with the NRA and support candidates who are willing to fight for stricter gun laws

Unless that happens we will see business as usual

 

[tjvh]

What changed? Why don't you ask the residents of New York State that question.

 

[AmericanFirst]

Good. Obamaturd needs stopped in his socialist tracks.

 

[PredFan]

Time to join or donate to the NRA.

 

[Mr. H.]

That does makes sense. But there are many such efforts even within the City of Chicago.
What good are stricter laws when existing laws are unenforceable.

 

[Katzndogz]

The difference is neither a cigarette or a drink are useful in keeping yourself from getting killed.

The reality is people will have weapons for self protection. The more they need self protection, the more guns they will have. Every time a homeowner uses a gun to protect himself or his family, 100 more guns are sold. The woman in Georgia was probably responsible for selling thousands of guns.

You can't say that about cigarettes or alcohol.

 

[Katzndogz]

That does makes sense. But there are many such efforts even within the City of Chicago.
What good are stricter laws when existing laws are unenforceable.

obama passes an executive order that says "We really mean it this time".

 

[ShootSpeeders]

The public has to realize we don't have a gun problem - we have a black and hispanic problem. Per capita they do far far more killing than whites. The establishment media refuses to talk about that though.

 

[007]

What changed?

It was the people who got fed up.

You're right, the people are getting fed up with you constitution hating, gun confiscating radical commie zealots. That's why over a QUARTER OF A MILLION NEW MEMBERS have joined the NRA in the last MONTH.

You don't want a gun, DON'T BUY ONE, idiot.

 

[Katzndogz]

Despite all evidence the contrary, liberals believe gun control nuts are in the majority.

 

[rightwinger]

The difference is neither a cigarette or a drink are useful in keeping yourself from getting killed.

The reality is people will have weapons for self protection. The more they need self protection, the more guns they will have. Every time a homeowner uses a gun to protect himself or his family, 100 more guns are sold. The woman in Georgia was probably responsible for selling thousands of guns.

You can't say that about cigarettes or alcohol.

Cigarettes, alcohol and guns are part of our culture

We couldn't ban cigarettes or alcohol same as we can never ban guns

What we, as a culture, did was make sure that cigarettes and alcohol are used responsibly. You can still smoke and drink but you are more accountable for your actions. If you smoke, you can't do it at work or inpublic areas.
If you drink, the bar will stop serving you if you are drunk or arrange a ride home. If you get caught drunk driving you will lose your licence the first time

We can't ban guns but we can make gun ownership more responsible and accountable. We can cut down on gun violence without banning them

We did it with cigarettes and alcohol

 

[jwoodie]

President Obama made a nice speech but other than some executive orders on gun registration and sharing of information, nothing will be done by Congress

The NRA has too much influence over Congress to get any gun legislation passed. Congress may huff and puff but nothing will be done

I grew up in the 50s and 60s. Half the people smoked and it was ridiculous to think Congress could do anything about smoking. Smoking was part of our culture and the smoking lobby was very powerful
Drunk Driving killed thousands of people a year. It was accepted that nothing could be done. Drinking was part of our culture and the alcohol lobby was very strong

What changed?

It was the people who got fed up. Grass roots movements against smoking and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving became politically powerful. Smoking and drunk driving no longer were socially acceptable. It became politically unfeasable to support smoking or lax drunk driving rules.
Public smoking was banned, drunk driving laws were made tougher and the rates of smoking and drunk driving decreased dramatically

If anything will be done on gun violence it will have to come from the American people and not the politicians. Strong grass roots movements need to rise up and say "Enough is enough". These movements need to go head to head with the NRA and support candidates who are willing to fight for stricter gun laws

Unless that happens we will see business as usual

What a ridiculous Circular Argument (look it up).

 

[Sallow]

Despite all evidence the contrary, liberals believe gun control nuts are in the majority.

Actually..people that want responsible gun laws are in the majority.

True Americans are sick and tired of psychopaths with assault weapons killing large amounts are law abiding American Citizens.

 

[007]

Despite all evidence the contrary, liberals believe gun control nuts are in the majority.

That's the lie they're desperately trying to propagate. It's not working though. They're even causing people that supported them two months ago to defect.

So let 'em run with this, it's hurting them but they're too stupid to see it. We'll just give them another shellacking in 2014.

 

[tjvh]

Despite all evidence the contrary, liberals believe gun control nuts are in the majority.

Actually..people that want responsible gun laws are in the majority.

True Americans are sick and tired of psychopaths with assault weapons killing large amounts are law abiding American Citizens.

What's an assault weapon?

 

[007]

Despite all evidence the contrary, liberals believe gun control nuts are in the majority.

Actually..people that want responsible gun laws are in the majority.

True Americans are sick and tired of psychopaths with assault weapons killing large amounts are law abiding American Citizens.

And we already have responsible gun laws, and the majority knows that too. They also know that you gun control zealots true agenda is to completely disarm this nation, and don't tell us it's not. We know better.

But you're right, it's whack jobs that are shooting people up. Do something about the whack jobs and leave the damn guns alone. That's what the majority wants.

 

[jwoodie]

Despite all evidence the contrary, liberals believe gun control nuts are in the majority.

Actually..people that want responsible gun laws are in the majority.

True Americans are sick and tired of psychopaths with assault weapons killing large amounts are law abiding American Citizens.

So what do you propose we do with these psychopaths, and why should we restrict the rights of law abiding citizens who are not psychopaths?

 

[blastoff]

President Obama made a nice speech but other than some executive orders on gun registration and sharing of information, nothing will be done by Congress

The NRA has too much influence over Congress to get any gun legislation passed. Congress may huff and puff but nothing will be done

I grew up in the 50s and 60s. Half the people smoked and it was ridiculous to think Congress could do anything about smoking. Smoking was part of our culture and the smoking lobby was very powerful
Drunk Driving killed thousands of people a year. It was accepted that nothing could be done. Drinking was part of our culture and the alcohol lobby was very strong

What changed?

It was the people who got fed up. Grass roots movements against smoking and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving became politically powerful. Smoking and drunk driving no longer were socially acceptable. It became politically unfeasable to support smoking or lax drunk driving rules.
Public smoking was banned, drunk driving laws were made tougher and the rates of smoking and drunk driving decreased dramatically

If anything will be done on gun violence it will have to come from the American people and not the politicians. Strong grass roots movements need to rise up and say "Enough is enough". These movements need to go head to head with the NRA and support candidates who are willing to fight for stricter gun laws

Unless that happens we will see business as usual

And if that happens you will still see business as usual unless you've got a trick up your sleeve to get criminals to obey both the new and previous gun laws.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

President Obama made a nice speech but other than some executive orders on gun registration and sharing of information, nothing will be done by Congress

The NRA has too much influence over Congress to get any gun legislation passed. Congress may huff and puff but nothing will be done

I grew up in the 50s and 60s. Half the people smoked and it was ridiculous to think Congress could do anything about smoking. Smoking was part of our culture and the smoking lobby was very powerful
Drunk Driving killed thousands of people a year. It was accepted that nothing could be done. Drinking was part of our culture and the alcohol lobby was very strong

What changed?

It was the people who got fed up. Grass roots movements against smoking and groups like Mothers Against Drunk Driving became politically powerful. Smoking and drunk driving no longer were socially acceptable. It became politically unfeasable to support smoking or lax drunk driving rules.
Public smoking was banned, drunk driving laws were made tougher and the rates of smoking and drunk driving decreased dramatically

If anything will be done on gun violence it will have to come from the American people and not the politicians. Strong grass roots movements need to rise up and say "Enough is enough". These movements need to go head to head with the NRA and support candidates who are willing to fight for stricter gun laws

Unless that happens we will see business as usual

There are too many laws that need to be enforced. No, more worthless laws are not the answer.

 

[Mad Scientist]

The NRA has too much influence over Congress to get any gun legislation passed.

International Bankers OWN and RUN the United States but you're worried about the NRA?