What Is Your Bar For Impeachment?

[g5000]

You dolts can pretend all you want, but the fact is Bill Clinton was impeached over consensual sex.

Do you REALLY want that to be the bar for impeachment?

 

[g5000]

Not to mention the raging hypocrisy over the fact that the Speaker of the House (Gingrich) who was screaming for Clinton's impeachment was in the middle of his own extra-marital affair.

The sickness in both parties goes all the way to the core.

 

[Bush92]

The "Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors."

Let's all agree that if a President shoots a man on Fifth Avenue, he should be impeached, even if he committed the crime before he was President.

That's a pretty high crime.


But how low do you go with "Misdemeanors"? Why did our Founders use that word? I'm going to have to dust off some of my books to see if I can rediscover the reasoning behind that one.

The Republican party set the bar really, really low by impeaching a President over a blowjob.

Now, some will simp and say they impeached him over LYING about a blowjob, but come on. Why are you even asking him about a blowjob under oath, for chrissakes.

Everyone knows most of our Presidents screwed around. JFK was notorious, but even long before Kennedy, the private sex lives of Presidents were filled with mistresses. Yet we kept it private. You didn't make political hay out of it. Only if you were "caught in bed with a live boy or a dead girl".


I can see how it would be tempting to force Trump to be put under oath and to ask him about Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal and what pussies he might have grabbed. But I personally really don't want us to go there again.

I do think we need to know if our President cheated on his taxes or defrauded investors or defrauded insurance companies. But even that would not be an impeachable offense in my book.

We need to know those kinds of things so we know something about the character of the man, and then we can decide for ourselves whether to vote him out democratically rather than remove him by force.


So for me, in this current climate, the only potential crime I can foresee which would be a high enough bar for me is money laundering.

Ill-gotten gains are acquired through murder and terrorism and human trafficking and other "high crimes", and anyone who plays a part in aiding and abetting those crimes should be forcibly removed from office.

What is YOUR bar for impeachment?

Hiding porn star payments from America just before an election.

Writing a letter to investigators saying there was a meeting in Trump Tower about adoption when it was actually a meeting about committing felonies and trying to hide the fact.

Those are crimes.

The problem with Trump as president is we’ve never had a criminal as president before.

So a lot of things he does aren’t against the law because it never occurred to anyone that we would have a Russian stooge in the White House.

Standing in front of the world and saying he believes a Russian despot over our Intel agencies deserves a spank and a very hard slap across the face, at the very least.

“Trump wins again! Waaaaaaahhhh!

 

[Mac1958]

BENGHAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZIIIIIII!

Damn, beat me to it.

I'm becoming more and more convinced that all the nutters, both ends, get their nutter training at the same place.

They probably get better group hotel rates that way.
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[OKTexas]

The special counsel law requires Mueller to deliver the report to the AG, and no one else. Publishing any part of the report is solely at the AG's discretion. He can keep it all confidential if he wants. The law specifically bars him from releasing Grand Jury testimony and classified material, so you are wrong about 5 different ways to Sunday.

Yes, "deliver" it to him. He is then tasked with going over it to see if there are any parts that are part of grand jury testimony or any parts that divulge intelligence practices that can not be shared with anyone except those with the clearance to see it.

He is NOT tasked with reading it and then interpreting HIS opinion and making that opinion public. He overstepped his duties.

Are you trolling? I'm being serious, because this is not that difficult to understand.

Except for releasing Grand Jury testimony and classified information, What he does with it is totally up to him.

You legal theories are made up from whole cloth.

Idiocy is seldom difficult to understand.

I said he could withhold that... Do try to keep up. That was the whole purpose of delivering it to Barr first, so he could go through and redact that information before making the rest available to Congress... I've said this to you about 10 times now.

The special council law says nothing about delivering it to Congress. You're just making that up.

Congress has oversight over the executive branch.

Yet all law enforcement powers are in the executive, not congress. You commies don't seem to have figured that out.

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