What Is Wrong With America ?

[dcraelin]

the government has come to be too much influenced by special interests and the wealthy. We are heading over a cliff if something isn't done quickly and one of those things would be to tax the wealthy more to pay down the debt.

Eisenhower had a top rate of 91% we probably dont need it that high but should take it to 65-70%
A tax on Wall Street transactions should also be imposed.

Wht don't we just get it over with now.
Take 99% of what people earn.
Nationalize all IRA and 401K Plans.
Tax wealth at 100% over $1 million.
That way not only do we hit the rich fucks on what they earned but you guys get to take whatever wealth has been accumulated because the rich got rich by stealing from the poor.

And we should be lucky that that's all you guys do....

Or we could have a balanced budget and spend less then what we take in as revenue.

How bout that?

like I said the rate only applies to the last portion of income, the rich pay no more on first dollars than everyone else, it is clear you dont understand this.

A rising tax on the wealthy will lift all boats

 

[Rozman]

I say go for it...

I'm sure a lot of Libs will support you on this.

 

[Rozman]

Who needs to work in this country anymore anyway.
Obama and the democrat party feel that paying people not to work
is a huge boost for the economy anyway.Obama says that creates jobs.
Isn't that how this administration got the UE number to drop?

 

[dcraelin]

Who needs to work in this country anymore anyway.
Obama and the democrat party feel that paying people not to work
is a huge boost for the economy anyway.Obama says that creates jobs.
Isn't that how this administration got the UE number to drop?

what I said has nothing to do with the unemployment extension

 

[protectionist]

the government has come to be too much influenced by special interests and the wealthy. We are heading over a cliff if something isn't done quickly and one of those things would be to tax the wealthy more to pay down the debt.

Eisenhower had a top rate of 91% we probably dont need it that high but should take it to 65-70%
A tax on Wall Street transactions should also be imposed.

Nobody should owe any sort of % of that nature to any government.. government does not exist for your redistribution dreams

And perhaps, just perhaps, before spouting off about some 90+or 60+% rate, you should look at what was counted as income then, deductible then, etc. The effective rate for the top is actually not much different today than it was then...

What should be is equality in treatment across the board, regardless to age, race, sex, creed, income, situation, or whatever else... funny how equality in treatment, to a liberal, only counts when it benefits you.. but unequal treatment of someone else is ok, when it also benefits the liberal

Effective rate is a hollow argument. It matters little what or how past generations screwed the American people out of tax money and services. Now, loopholes should be closed, and America's NORMAL tax rate on the rich should be restored (70-80%)
Without loopholes, this WILL BE the effective tax rate. And as new tricky loopholes arise, Congress should shut them down. That's part of their job. Let them do it.

 

[protectionist]

the government has come to be too much influenced by special interests and the wealthy. We are heading over a cliff if something isn't done quickly and one of those things would be to tax the wealthy more to pay down the debt.

Eisenhower had a top rate of 91% we probably dont need it that high but should take it to 65-70%
A tax on Wall Street transactions should also be imposed.

Wht don't we just get it over with now.
Take 99% of what people earn.
Nationalize all IRA and 401K Plans.
Tax wealth at 100% over $1 million.
That way not only do we hit the rich fucks on what they earned but you guys get to take whatever wealth has been accumulated because the rich got rich by stealing from the poor.

And we should be lucky that that's all you guys do....

Or we could have a balanced budget and spend less then what we take in as revenue.

How bout that?

We could do both of those scenarios. And in the process, we might even get potholes filled.

 

[HenryBHough]

Alas, liberal schools do not teach about geese and golden eggs.

 

[dblack]

What's wrong with America?

We've allowed political power to merge with economic power.

 

[Indeependent]

What's wrong with America?

We've allowed political power to merge with economic power.

True, but you speak as though this is a new phenomena.

 

[dblack]

What's wrong with America?

We've allowed political power to merge with economic power.

True, but you speak as though this is a new phenomena.

I think it's getting worse. And even people who recognize the problem seem fixated on "solutions" that make it worse .

 

[AquaAthena]

What Is Wrong With America ?

Too many uneducated freeloaders with no pride, or drive to better themselves, and who have been created by government which has produced a class of people who thinks the world owes them a living.

 

[Spoonman]

What Is Wrong With America ?

Too many uneducated freeloaders with no pride, or drive to better themselves, and who have been created by government which has produced a class of people who thinks the world owes them a living.

I couldn't have said it better myself

 

[KNB]

US student loan debt is more than credit card debt, so the idea that young people aren't "trying to better their situation" is actually quite insulting. The problem is that there aren't that many jobs to be had in the US because everything except our precious guns are made in China. One easy way to fix that is to legalize marijuana again so industrial hemp can replace foreign imports of raw materials. This was supposed to happen in 1938 but "Marihuana" was outlawed as a dangerous drug (that hasn't caused a single overdose in all of history).
New Billion-Dollar Crop, PAGE 1 of 3

"Government" is not the problem. Lack of a real government is the problem. Corporate consolidation of media narrows the scope of American thinking, corporate consolidation of wealth creates the struggling poor which then need assistance, and corporate consolidation of power has created a revolving-door effect of public servant/lobbyists. 95% of the money made during the economic recovery was divided by 1% of the population.
Obama admits 95% of income gains gone to top 1% - Sep. 15, 2013

 

[protectionist]

What Is Wrong With America ?

Too many uneducated freeloaders with no pride, or drive to better themselves, and who have been created by government which has produced a class of people who thinks the world owes them a living.

Unquestionably true, HOWEVER, the same could be said about super rich business owners in respect to that they freeload off their workers, by taking money that should go to those workers, and have a pompous attitude that because they create a company with their wealth (which in many cases was dumped on them by daddy), that therefore THEY are the only important part of the company, and they are owed the lion's share (never mind that their workers often risk, and sometimes lose, their lives doing their jobs)

 

[The Rabbi]

Allow me to offer one solution. How about having the Presidency, Congress, Court judges, and Agency officials not be paid (Anything). Have all the jobs done on a volunteer basis, and stop all money input in elections. And all one term only (eliminating the drive to be re-elected)

That's the most idiotic solution ever offered. How are middle class or working class people supposed to serve in Congress if they dont get paid? You complain the country is run by the rich and then propose a policy that will guarantee that happens.
The country has always been run by upper class people. And that isnt a bad thing either. Why would I want some loser who can't figure out how to make millions running the country? He can't even run his own life.

 

[The Rabbi]

What Is Wrong With America ?

Too many uneducated freeloaders with no pride, or drive to better themselves, and who have been created by government which has produced a class of people who thinks the world owes them a living.

Unquestionably true, HOWEVER, the same could be said about super rich business owners in respect to that they freeload off their workers, by taking money that should go to those workers, and have a pompous attitude that because they create a company with their wealth (which in many cases was dumped on them by daddy), that therefore THEY are the only important part of the company, and they are owed the lion's share (never mind that their workers often risk, and sometimes lose, their lives doing their jobs)

Never run a business, eh?

 

[OKTexas]

What Is Wrong With America ?

Too many uneducated freeloaders with no pride, or drive to better themselves, and who have been created by government which has produced a class of people who thinks the world owes them a living.

Unquestionably true, HOWEVER, the same could be said about super rich business owners in respect to that they freeload off their workers, by taking money that should go to those workers, and have a pompous attitude that because they create a company with their wealth (which in many cases was dumped on them by daddy), that therefore THEY are the only important part of the company, and they are owed the lion's share (never mind that their workers often risk, and sometimes lose, their lives doing their jobs)

Waht do you plan on doing when you grow up?

 

[protectionist]

What Is Wrong With America ?

Too many uneducated freeloaders with no pride, or drive to better themselves, and who have been created by government which has produced a class of people who thinks the world owes them a living.

Unquestionably true, HOWEVER, the same could be said about super rich business owners in respect to that they freeload off their workers, by taking money that should go to those workers, and have a pompous attitude that because they create a company with their wealth (which in many cases was dumped on them by daddy), that therefore THEY are the only important part of the company, and they are owed the lion's share (never mind that their workers often risk, and sometimes lose, their lives doing their jobs)

Waht do you plan on doing when you grow up?

You have no response to the quote, evidently. Got it.

 

[The Rabbi]

Unquestionably true, HOWEVER, the same could be said about super rich business owners in respect to that they freeload off their workers, by taking money that should go to those workers, and have a pompous attitude that because they create a company with their wealth (which in many cases was dumped on them by daddy), that therefore THEY are the only important part of the company, and they are owed the lion's share (never mind that their workers often risk, and sometimes lose, their lives doing their jobs)

Waht do you plan on doing when you grow up?

You have no response to the quote, evidently. Got it.

His response is that you're too stupid to engage in serious debate, junior.

 

[protectionist]

What Is Wrong With America ?

Too many uneducated freeloaders with no pride, or drive to better themselves, and who have been created by government which has produced a class of people who thinks the world owes them a living.

Unquestionably true, HOWEVER, the same could be said about super rich business owners in respect to that they freeload off their workers, by taking money that should go to those workers, and have a pompous attitude that because they create a company with their wealth (which in many cases was dumped on them by daddy), that therefore THEY are the only important part of the company, and they are owed the lion's share (never mind that their workers often risk, and sometimes lose, their lives doing their jobs)

Never run a business, eh?

Founded, owned, and ran one quite successfully, for 12 years. And expanded it to 3 branch offices in 3 counties. And I paid my workers the equivalent of $150/hour, the entire time. Why do you ask ?