What is the law.

I'll tell you what the law is. A bunch of horse shit! It is written by the wealthy for the wealthy. Thomas Jefferson once prophesied, "From time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Why? Because whatever it is that a patriot would want to rise up against would be perfectly legal.

Also, in a courtroom with a judge and jury, where does the law lie. With the judge or jury. Right now, it lies with the judge. He will tell the jury what to do. But for many of the founding fathers, the law should lay with the jury. After all, the constitution says "We the people." Well the jury IS the people. Real democracy depends on them deciding what is legal or not.
Sooooo...
The verdict wasn't in your favor?
:dunno:

I have never had a trial by jury.

Always took the deal, did you?

That's probably smart in your case. I'm guessing ingratiating yourself with a jury isn't one of your strong suits.
 
I'll tell you what the law is. A bunch of horse shit! It is written by the wealthy for the wealthy. Thomas Jefferson once prophesied, "From time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Why? Because whatever it is that a patriot would want to rise up against would be perfectly legal.

Also, in a courtroom with a judge and jury, where does the law lie. With the judge or jury. Right now, it lies with the judge. He will tell the jury what to do. But for many of the founding fathers, the law should lay with the jury. After all, the constitution says "We the people." Well the jury IS the people. Real democracy depends on them deciding what is legal or not.

What is the law? Not the horse shit proposed above:

Look at post #15.

Read post #14. Please tell the readers and me, are you nuts or a nihilist?
 
I'll tell you what the law is. A bunch of horse shit! It is written by the wealthy for the wealthy. Thomas Jefferson once prophesied, "From time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Why? Because whatever it is that a patriot would want to rise up against would be perfectly legal.

Also, in a courtroom with a judge and jury, where does the law lie. With the judge or jury. Right now, it lies with the judge. He will tell the jury what to do. But for many of the founding fathers, the law should lay with the jury. After all, the constitution says "We the people." Well the jury IS the people. Real democracy depends on them deciding what is legal or not.

What is the law? Not the horse shit proposed above:

Look at post #15.

Read post #14. Please tell the readers and me, are you nuts or a nihilist?

Can't we be both?

goodman-ethos.jpg
 
I'll tell you what the law is. A bunch of horse shit! It is written by the wealthy for the wealthy. Thomas Jefferson once prophesied, "From time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Why? Because whatever it is that a patriot would want to rise up against would be perfectly legal.

Also, in a courtroom with a judge and jury, where does the law lie. With the judge or jury. Right now, it lies with the judge. He will tell the jury what to do. But for many of the founding fathers, the law should lay with the jury. After all, the constitution says "We the people." Well the jury IS the people. Real democracy depends on them deciding what is legal or not.

What is the law? Not the horse shit proposed above:

Look at post #15.

Read post #14. Please tell the readers and me, are you nuts or a nihilist?

Can't we be both?

goodman-ethos.jpg

I suppose. One is an ideology, the other isn't.
 
I'll tell you what the law is. A bunch of horse shit! It is written by the wealthy for the wealthy. Thomas Jefferson once prophesied, "From time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Why? Because whatever it is that a patriot would want to rise up against would be perfectly legal.

Also, in a courtroom with a judge and jury, where does the law lie. With the judge or jury. Right now, it lies with the judge. He will tell the jury what to do. But for many of the founding fathers, the law should lay with the jury. After all, the constitution says "We the people." Well the jury IS the people. Real democracy depends on them deciding what is legal or not.

What is the law? Not the horse shit proposed above:

Look at post #15.

Read post #14. Please tell the readers and me, are you nuts or a nihilist?

How about this instead. Point out any statement I made in my thread that you disagree with. I will set you straight.
 
I'll tell you what the law is. A bunch of horse shit! It is written by the wealthy for the wealthy. Thomas Jefferson once prophesied, "From time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Why? Because whatever it is that a patriot would want to rise up against would be perfectly legal.

Also, in a courtroom with a judge and jury, where does the law lie. With the judge or jury. Right now, it lies with the judge. He will tell the jury what to do. But for many of the founding fathers, the law should lay with the jury. After all, the constitution says "We the people." Well the jury IS the people. Real democracy depends on them deciding what is legal or not.

What is the law? Not the horse shit proposed above:

Look at post #15.

Read post #14. Please tell the readers and me, are you nuts or a nihilist?

How about this instead. Point out any statement I made in my thread that you disagree with. I will set you straight.

Such arrogance. I'd put you on ignore before every attempting to try to edify you.
 
I'll tell you what the law is. A bunch of horse shit! It is written by the wealthy for the wealthy. Thomas Jefferson once prophesied, "From time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Why? Because whatever it is that a patriot would want to rise up against would be perfectly legal.

Also, in a courtroom with a judge and jury, where does the law lie. With the judge or jury. Right now, it lies with the judge. He will tell the jury what to do. But for many of the founding fathers, the law should lay with the jury. After all, the constitution says "We the people." Well the jury IS the people. Real democracy depends on them deciding what is legal or not.

What is the law? Not the horse shit proposed above:

Look at post #15.

Read post #14. Please tell the readers and me, are you nuts or a nihilist?

How about this instead. Point out any statement I made in my thread that you disagree with. I will set you straight.

Such arrogance. I'd put you on ignore before every attempting to try to edify you.

You have a unique way of saying you can't.
 
Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
Fuck the law.
If that is your attitude, no wonder you are misquoting its application.

He's a troll, and putting at risk a quick expulsion from the Society of Trolls. Clearly he's in this for attention, given the stupidity of this thread and the absurdity of his posts.

So now you resort to insults because you can't point to anything in my thread that you disagree with. Why don't you just go haunt somebody else's thread.
 
Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
Fuck the law.
If that is your attitude, no wonder you are misquoting its application.

He's a troll, and putting at risk a quick expulsion from the Society of Trolls. Clearly he's in this for attention, given the stupidity of this thread and the absurdity of his posts.

So now you resort to insults because you can't point to anything in my thread that you disagree with. Why don't you just go haunt somebody else's thread.
No one here is so dense as to believe your messages.
 
Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
Fuck the law.
If that is your attitude, no wonder you are misquoting its application.

He's a troll, and putting at risk a quick expulsion from the Society of Trolls. Clearly he's in this for attention, given the stupidity of this thread and the absurdity of his posts.

So now you resort to insults because you can't point to anything in my thread that you disagree with. Why don't you just go haunt somebody else's thread.
No one here is so dense as to believe your messages.

Or you could just tell me what it is that I said that you don't believe. But then, you would learn something. Which it seems you don't want to do.
 
I'll tell you what the law is. A bunch of horse shit! It is written by the wealthy for the wealthy. Thomas Jefferson once prophesied, "From time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Why? Because whatever it is that a patriot would want to rise up against would be perfectly legal.

Also, in a courtroom with a judge and jury, where does the law lie. With the judge or jury. Right now, it lies with the judge. He will tell the jury what to do. But for many of the founding fathers, the law should lay with the jury. After all, the constitution says "We the people." Well the jury IS the people. Real democracy depends on them deciding what is legal or not.

I live in a Republic and have no use for a democracy.

If the people would take a few months to study the law instead of spewing their own personal swill on the Internet, then the we. the people WOULD have more say in the government and the courts.

Groups have been talking about jury Rights ever since I've been around. Juries can judge both the law as well as the facts. A jury could over-turn bad laws by finding the law unconstitutional. Judges don't have a monopoly on that.

The fact that you invoked the word democracy shows that you don't know much about the history of this country or the law. So, without being long winded, I'll give you a short lesson in reality:

In a democracy you have 1 vote; in our Republic you have 3 votes

1 Vote on the jury trial
1 Vote on the Grand Jury
1 vote at the polls
 
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Ignorance of the law is no excuse.
Fuck the law.
If that is your attitude, no wonder you are misquoting its application.

He's a troll, and putting at risk a quick expulsion from the Society of Trolls. Clearly he's in this for attention, given the stupidity of this thread and the absurdity of his posts.

So now you resort to insults because you can't point to anything in my thread that you disagree with. Why don't you just go haunt somebody else's thread.
No one here is so dense as to believe your messages.

If they don't believe it, it isn't because they don't believe it. It is because they don't want to believe it. A wise person once said, "Worse than a fool is somebody who likes being a fool." That wise person was me. And that "once said" happened here and now. Will this saying go down in history as one of the great truisms? I doubt it.
 
I'll tell you what the law is. A bunch of horse shit! It is written by the wealthy for the wealthy. Thomas Jefferson once prophesied, "From time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Why? Because whatever it is that a patriot would want to rise up against would be perfectly legal.

Also, in a courtroom with a judge and jury, where does the law lie. With the judge or jury. Right now, it lies with the judge. He will tell the jury what to do. But for many of the founding fathers, the law should lay with the jury. After all, the constitution says "We the people." Well the jury IS the people. Real democracy depends on them deciding what is legal or not.

I live in a Republic and have no use for a democracy.

If the people would take a few months to study the law instead of spewing their own personal swill on the Internet, then the we. the people WOULD have more say in the government and the courts.

Groups have been talking about jury Rights ever since I've been around. Juries can judge both the law as well as the facts. A jury could over-turn bad laws by finding the law unconstitutional. Judges don't have a monopoly on that.

The fact that you invoked the word democracy shows that you don't know much about the history of this country or the law. So, without being long winded, I'll give you a short lesson in reality:

In a democracy you have 1 vote; in our Republic you have 3 votes

1 Vote on the jury trial
1 Vote on the Grand Jury
1 vote at the polls

Instead of talking nonsense, maybe you should reread my thread. The law is written by the rich and for the rich. Period. But I will tell you more. I watched a documentary once about how the workings of how our law works came from. They came from law books used during the Roman Empire. In this law, like ours, sometimes you had to look up a word to find the definition of a word used in litigation. Sometimes you had to look up for another word to define what the last one said and in turn define what the original word meant. In short, to be able to double talk and do a runaround the majority of people who aren't well versed in legalese. So again I say Fuck The Law! Laws should be written in plain language. And instead of lengthy contracts, intent should be the only requirement. And that can be done with three or four sentences.

Ad for democracy, fuck democracy. It doesn't exist anyway.. A plutocracy does. As for voting in a jury, it has no meaning. A unanimous decision isn't needed to convict somebody.somebody. Next, a jury is a jury. It doesn't matter if it is "grand" or not. Next, you have many votes at the poles. You vote for president, congressmen, senators, judges, local sheriff's, etc. Not that any of them have any meaning.
 
I'll tell you what the law is. A bunch of horse shit! It is written by the wealthy for the wealthy. Thomas Jefferson once prophesied, "From time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Why? Because whatever it is that a patriot would want to rise up against would be perfectly legal.

Also, in a courtroom with a judge and jury, where does the law lie. With the judge or jury. Right now, it lies with the judge. He will tell the jury what to do. But for many of the founding fathers, the law should lay with the jury. After all, the constitution says "We the people." Well the jury IS the people. Real democracy depends on them deciding what is legal or not.

I live in a Republic and have no use for a democracy.

If the people would take a few months to study the law instead of spewing their own personal swill on the Internet, then the we. the people WOULD have more say in the government and the courts.

Groups have been talking about jury Rights ever since I've been around. Juries can judge both the law as well as the facts. A jury could over-turn bad laws by finding the law unconstitutional. Judges don't have a monopoly on that.

The fact that you invoked the word democracy shows that you don't know much about the history of this country or the law. So, without being long winded, I'll give you a short lesson in reality:

In a democracy you have 1 vote; in our Republic you have 3 votes

1 Vote on the jury trial
1 Vote on the Grand Jury
1 vote at the polls

Instead of talking nonsense, maybe you should reread my thread. The law is written by the rich and for the rich. Period. But I will tell you more. I watched a documentary once about how the workings of how our law works came from. They came from law books used during the Roman Empire. In this law, like ours, sometimes you had to look up a word to find the definition of a word used in litigation. Sometimes you had to look up for another word to define what the last one said and in turn define what the original word meant. In short, to be able to double talk and do a runaround the majority of people who aren't well versed in legalese. So again I say Fuck The Law! Laws should be written in plain language. And instead of lengthy contracts, intent should be the only requirement. And that can be done with three or four sentences.

Ad for democracy, fuck democracy. It doesn't exist anyway.. A plutocracy does. As for voting in a jury, it has no meaning. A unanimous decision isn't needed to convict somebody.somebody. Next, a jury is a jury. It doesn't matter if it is "grand" or not. Next, you have many votes at the poles. You vote for president, congressmen, senators, judges, local sheriff's, etc. Not that any of them have any meaning.

While "Plan Nine from Outer Space" is interesting to watch in a disastrous sort-of-way, reading reams of dialogue from it merely produces a vast bubbling ennui.
 
I'll tell you what the law is. A bunch of horse shit! It is written by the wealthy for the wealthy. Thomas Jefferson once prophesied, "From time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Why? Because whatever it is that a patriot would want to rise up against would be perfectly legal.

Also, in a courtroom with a judge and jury, where does the law lie. With the judge or jury. Right now, it lies with the judge. He will tell the jury what to do. But for many of the founding fathers, the law should lay with the jury. After all, the constitution says "We the people." Well the jury IS the people. Real democracy depends on them deciding what is legal or not.

I live in a Republic and have no use for a democracy.

If the people would take a few months to study the law instead of spewing their own personal swill on the Internet, then the we. the people WOULD have more say in the government and the courts.

Groups have been talking about jury Rights ever since I've been around. Juries can judge both the law as well as the facts. A jury could over-turn bad laws by finding the law unconstitutional. Judges don't have a monopoly on that.

The fact that you invoked the word democracy shows that you don't know much about the history of this country or the law. So, without being long winded, I'll give you a short lesson in reality:

In a democracy you have 1 vote; in our Republic you have 3 votes

1 Vote on the jury trial
1 Vote on the Grand Jury
1 vote at the polls

Instead of talking nonsense, maybe you should reread my thread. The law is written by the rich and for the rich. Period. But I will tell you more. I watched a documentary once about how the workings of how our law works came from. They came from law books used during the Roman Empire. In this law, like ours, sometimes you had to look up a word to find the definition of a word used in litigation. Sometimes you had to look up for another word to define what the last one said and in turn define what the original word meant. In short, to be able to double talk and do a runaround the majority of people who aren't well versed in legalese. So again I say Fuck The Law! Laws should be written in plain language. And instead of lengthy contracts, intent should be the only requirement. And that can be done with three or four sentences.

Ad for democracy, fuck democracy. It doesn't exist anyway.. A plutocracy does. As for voting in a jury, it has no meaning. A unanimous decision isn't needed to convict somebody.somebody. Next, a jury is a jury. It doesn't matter if it is "grand" or not. Next, you have many votes at the poles. You vote for president, congressmen, senators, judges, local sheriff's, etc. Not that any of them have any meaning.

You are projecting in a vain attempt to hide your ignorance. Thanks, but I mistook you for someone capable of civil conversation.
 
I'll tell you what the law is. A bunch of horse shit! It is written by the wealthy for the wealthy. Thomas Jefferson once prophesied, "From time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants." Why? Because whatever it is that a patriot would want to rise up against would be perfectly legal.

Also, in a courtroom with a judge and jury, where does the law lie. With the judge or jury. Right now, it lies with the judge. He will tell the jury what to do. But for many of the founding fathers, the law should lay with the jury. After all, the constitution says "We the people." Well the jury IS the people. Real democracy depends on them deciding what is legal or not.

I live in a Republic and have no use for a democracy.

If the people would take a few months to study the law instead of spewing their own personal swill on the Internet, then the we. the people WOULD have more say in the government and the courts.

Groups have been talking about jury Rights ever since I've been around. Juries can judge both the law as well as the facts. A jury could over-turn bad laws by finding the law unconstitutional. Judges don't have a monopoly on that.

The fact that you invoked the word democracy shows that you don't know much about the history of this country or the law. So, without being long winded, I'll give you a short lesson in reality:

In a democracy you have 1 vote; in our Republic you have 3 votes

1 Vote on the jury trial
1 Vote on the Grand Jury
1 vote at the polls

Instead of talking nonsense, maybe you should reread my thread. The law is written by the rich and for the rich. Period. But I will tell you more. I watched a documentary once about how the workings of how our law works came from. They came from law books used during the Roman Empire. In this law, like ours, sometimes you had to look up a word to find the definition of a word used in litigation. Sometimes you had to look up for another word to define what the last one said and in turn define what the original word meant. In short, to be able to double talk and do a runaround the majority of people who aren't well versed in legalese. So again I say Fuck The Law! Laws should be written in plain language. And instead of lengthy contracts, intent should be the only requirement. And that can be done with three or four sentences.

Ad for democracy, fuck democracy. It doesn't exist anyway.. A plutocracy does. As for voting in a jury, it has no meaning. A unanimous decision isn't needed to convict somebody.somebody. Next, a jury is a jury. It doesn't matter if it is "grand" or not. Next, you have many votes at the poles. You vote for president, congressmen, senators, judges, local sheriff's, etc. Not that any of them have any meaning.



You know what’s even more interesting?





No one gives the slightest shit what you think.
 

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