What Is Space Actually On?

[CarlinAnnArbor]

What is Space actually Made On?
I do not mean the atoms, energy, mass, baryonic matter, planets, dust, moons, or plasma that make up the Universe?
I mean what is holding these physical structures of mass.
I am specifically talking about what the matter is in or on.
Like if you see a painting or drawing. You look at what the drawing is of.
But what is the ink or paint on? What is the canvas made of?
The question we need to ask ourselves is what are we as mass, such as the planets, and the vacuum of space on?
For instance we are 1 astronomical unit from the Sun.
We are 150 million kilometres from the Sun.
And some would say there is nothing between the Earth and the Sun. Just a near perfect vacuum, with virtually nothing between us.
But that is not what I am asking. I am asking what is holding that vacuum. On another level what is the vacuum of 150 million miles on.
You cannot have 150 million miles of nothing. I know you will say it is a vacuum. But what is that vacuum on.
I mean if you had a mile of space on Earth. Yes it might be containing matter, such as oxygen, rocks, oceans, clouds, humans, animals, and plants. But if you had a mile of outer space. There might be a near perfect vacuum. But it is still 1 mile of space. The same distance both times.
So the thing is. Surely the 1 mile of near perfect space and 1 mile of Earth, are the same distance. So what is holding that 1 miles of space whether it be a near perfect vacuum or as on Earth containing huge amounts of matter.
The actual structure that holds 1 mile of vacuum space and 1 mile of matter, must be the same thing,
So what is that is holding the 1 mile of space and 1 mile of Earth matter.
I know the Universe contains mass, energy, matter. But what is it on?
This is a vital philosophical and scientific question.
1 mile of mass and 1 mile of space vacuum, are both the same distance. What are they both on?
It is as if we are people painted on a canvas that tells a story or landscape. On one level you can as an art critic try to explain the story that the painting is telling. But to make that work of art you must know what we are made. Are we paint, or are we layers of different paint on a canvas? And what is that canvas made of? A canvas with no paint on it, is the same distance as a canvas with a beautiful landscape or mythical scene.
What is Space on?

You failed science.

Of course we exist on the back of a giant turtle

 

[hjmick]

Duh...

 

[BackAgain]

Creptus. Be nicer.

Ah nonsense. His little video clip was funny and actually on point.

 

[BackAgain]

You failed science.

Of course we exist on the back of a giant turtle

Which is in turn on top of another turtle. And that one is on another one. And so on and on and on …

All the way down.

 

[Oddball]

Turtles, turtles, turtles, all the way down.

 

[MarathonMike]

The universe is a giant cloud of space dust that was created and coalesced into an infinite number of forms.

 

[norwegen]

Space isn't sitting on the backs of turtles all the way down; that's the earth.

Space is in a vacuum. A Dyson, I believe.

 

[Woodznutz]

How do you know that? ... what experiment can we perform to demonstrate your claim? ...

So far science supports this. Once you identify the very smallest substance or unit of energy that is possible to discover but you believe or 'know' that there is something else that supports or energizes it you're left with something that you know or believe theoretically is there but cannot be detected.

 

[MarathonMike]

Space isn't sitting on the backs of turtles all the way down; that's the earth.

Space is in a vacuum. A Dyson, I believe.

Gotta be a Dyson, you need a lot of sucking power to hold the Universe together.

 

[ding]

What is Space actually Made On?

A false vaccum.

 

[Unkotare]

Is this stupid thread still going?

 

[BackAgain]

Space isn't sitting on the backs of turtles all the way down; that's the earth.

Space is in a vacuum. A Dyson, I believe.

Hoover.

 

[ReinyDays]

So far science supports this. Once you identify the very smallest substance or unit of energy that is possible to discover but you believe or 'know' that there is something else that supports or energizes it you're left with something that you know or believe theoretically is there but cannot be detected.

If it CANNOT be detected, then it's not science ... so ... science DOES NOT support your claim ... or post an experiment we can conduct to demonstrate we cannot know these things ...

 

[Woodznutz]

If it CANNOT be detected, then it's not science ... so ... science DOES NOT support your claim ... or post an experiment we can conduct to demonstrate we cannot know these things ...

Science includes theories that are unproven and unproveable.

 

[braalian]

“The substructure of the universe regresses infinitely towards smaller and smaller components. Behind atoms we find electrons, and behind electrons, quarks. Each layer unraveled reveals new secrets, but also new mysteries.”

• Academician Prokhor Zakharov, "For I Have Tasted the Fruit"

 

[ReinyDays]

Science includes theories that are unproven and unproveable.

No it doesn't ... that's pseudo-science ... we can't prove Bigfoot doesn't exist ... so it's not science ...

Any theory that's not provable is philosophy ... or religion ... what you describe is more dogma than science ...

 

[braalian]

“Beware, you who seek first and final principles, for you are trampling the garden of an angry God and He awaits you just beyond the last theorem.”

• Sister Miriam Godwinson, "But for the Grace of God"

 

[ReinyDays]

Space isn't sitting on the backs of turtles all the way down; that's the earth.

Space is in a vacuum. A Dyson, I believe.

Space is not a vacuum ... 3rd Law of Thermodynamics ... we can measure the temperature even ... -270ºC ... so not a vacuum ...

 

[Woodznutz]

No it doesn't ... that's pseudo-science ... we can't prove Bigfoot doesn't exist ... so it's not science ...

Any theory that's not provable is philosophy ... or religion ... what you describe is more dogma than science ...

How about the ToE? That's unproveable yet science clings to it.

 

[badger2]

What is Space actually Made On?
I do not mean the atoms, energy, mass, baryonic matter, planets, dust, moons, or plasma that make up the Universe?
I mean what is holding these physical structures of mass.
I am specifically talking about what the matter is in or on.
Like if you see a painting or drawing. You look at what the drawing is of.
But what is the ink or paint on? What is the canvas made of?
The question we need to ask ourselves is what are we as mass, such as the planets, and the vacuum of space on?
For instance we are 1 astronomical unit from the Sun.
We are 150 million kilometres from the Sun.
And some would say there is nothing between the Earth and the Sun. Just a near perfect vacuum, with virtually nothing between us.
But that is not what I am asking. I am asking what is holding that vacuum. On another level what is the vacuum of 150 million miles on.
You cannot have 150 million miles of nothing. I know you will say it is a vacuum. But what is that vacuum on.
I mean if you had a mile of space on Earth. Yes it might be containing matter, such as oxygen, rocks, oceans, clouds, humans, animals, and plants. But if you had a mile of outer space. There might be a near perfect vacuum. But it is still 1 mile of space. The same distance both times.
So the thing is. Surely the 1 mile of near perfect space and 1 mile of Earth, are the same distance. So what is holding that 1 miles of space whether it be a near perfect vacuum or as on Earth containing huge amounts of matter.
The actual structure that holds 1 mile of vacuum space and 1 mile of matter, must be the same thing,
So what is that is holding the 1 mile of space and 1 mile of Earth matter.
I know the Universe contains mass, energy, matter. But what is it on?
This is a vital philosophical and scientific question.
1 mile of mass and 1 mile of space vacuum, are both the same distance. What are they both on?
It is as if we are people painted on a canvas that tells a story or landscape. On one level you can as an art critic try to explain the story that the painting is telling. But to make that work of art you must know what we are made. Are we paint, or are we layers of different paint on a canvas? And what is that canvas made of? A canvas with no paint on it, is the same distance as a canvas with a beautiful landscape or mythical scene.
What is Space on?

If the utter boundary of the Universe a true ending, then what is on the other side of that ending?