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The libs here, and their fellow travelling narco-libertarians, maintain that Ukraine is not a vital US interest and we need to stay away.
So what is a vital U.S. interest? Philippines? Cuba? Hawaii? California? At what point is action of any kind a necessity?
The libs here, and their fellow travelling narco-libertarians, maintain that Ukraine is not a vital US interest and we need to stay away.
So what is a vital U.S. interest? Philippines? Cuba? Hawaii? California? At what point is action of any kind a necessity?
We do not have a national interest in making sure the EU gets favorable trade agreements.
Honoring our treaties would strike me as vital...
The libs here, and their fellow travelling narco-libertarians, maintain that Ukraine is not a vital US interest and we need to stay away.
So what is a vital U.S. interest? Philippines? Cuba? Hawaii? California? At what point is action of any kind a necessity?
When someone threatens the actual U.S., including its formally recognized territories/districts, or a country with which we have a border that asks for our support.At what point is action of any kind a necessity?
To liberate itself from Eskimo banking cartelWhat is a vital U.S. Interest? The libs here, and their fellow travelling narco-libertarians, maintain that Ukraine is not a vital US interest and we need to stay away.
So what is a vital U.S. interest? Philippines? Cuba? Hawaii? California? At what point is action of any kind a necessity?
OK. The lesson of Afghanistan is that isnt true. We were engaged in Afghanistan. Then we pulled out. Afghanistan literally was shorthand for the other side of the universe that no one cared about. Most people didnt even know where it was.The libs here, and their fellow travelling narco-libertarians, maintain that Ukraine is not a vital US interest and we need to stay away.
So what is a vital U.S. interest? Philippines? Cuba? Hawaii? California? At what point is action of any kind a necessity?
Philippines: Nope.
Cuba: Nope.
Hawaii: Yep.
California: Yep.
When someone threatens the actual U.S., including its formally recognized territories/districts, or a country with which we have a border that asks for our support.At what point is action of any kind a necessity?
OK. The lesson of Afghanistan is that isnt true. We were engaged in Afghanistan. Then we pulled out. Afghanistan literally was shorthand for the other side of the universe that no one cared about. Most people didnt even know where it was.The libs here, and their fellow travelling narco-libertarians, maintain that Ukraine is not a vital US interest and we need to stay away.
So what is a vital U.S. interest? Philippines? Cuba? Hawaii? California? At what point is action of any kind a necessity?
Philippines: Nope.
Cuba: Nope.
Hawaii: Yep.
California: Yep.
When someone threatens the actual U.S., including its formally recognized territories/districts, or a country with which we have a border that asks for our support.At what point is action of any kind a necessity?
Then we suffered the biggest attack on US soil since WW2, orchestrated from Afghanistan, that place we abandoned.
So attacks can come from anywhere these days.
Nothing defines our way of life like our use of energy. Right now oil is the worlds most vital interest.
OK. The lesson of Afghanistan is that isnt true. We were engaged in Afghanistan. Then we pulled out. Afghanistan literally was shorthand for the other side of the universe that no one cared about. Most people didnt even know where it was.Philippines: Nope.
Cuba: Nope.
Hawaii: Yep.
California: Yep.
When someone threatens the actual U.S., including its formally recognized territories/districts, or a country with which we have a border that asks for our support.
Then we suffered the biggest attack on US soil since WW2, orchestrated from Afghanistan, that place we abandoned.
So attacks can come from anywhere these days.
so you think we should police the entire world? get involved in every civil war and border dispute? make enemies instead of trading partners? force others to accept our way of life---or else?
How about the lesson of viet nam? 58,000 dead americans and billions of dollars---exactly how did that serve the national interest of the USA?
Nothing defines our way of life like our use of energy. Right now oil is the worlds most vital interest.
The libs here, and their fellow travelling narco-libertarians, maintain that Ukraine is not a vital US interest and we need to stay away.
So what is a vital U.S. interest? Philippines? Cuba? Hawaii? California? At what point is action of any kind a necessity?
OK. The lesson of Afghanistan is that isnt true. We were engaged in Afghanistan. Then we pulled out. Afghanistan literally was shorthand for the other side of the universe that no one cared about. Most people didnt even know where it was.
Then we suffered the biggest attack on US soil since WW2, orchestrated from Afghanistan, that place we abandoned.
So attacks can come from anywhere these days.
so you think we should police the entire world? get involved in every civil war and border dispute? make enemies instead of trading partners? force others to accept our way of life---or else?
How about the lesson of viet nam? 58,000 dead americans and billions of dollars---exactly how did that serve the national interest of the USA?
How about answering the question, Conrad?
so you think we should police the entire world? get involved in every civil war and border dispute? make enemies instead of trading partners? force others to accept our way of life---or else?
How about the lesson of viet nam? 58,000 dead americans and billions of dollars---exactly how did that serve the national interest of the USA?
How about answering the question, Conrad?
I did, now answer mine--------how did viet nam serve the national interests of the USA?
How about answering the question, Conrad?
I did, now answer mine--------how did viet nam serve the national interests of the USA?
Where was your answer defining what a vital US interest is? All I saw was you putting words in my mouth. Either answer the question and start a dialogue or shut the fuck up and go post somewhere else.
The libs here, and their fellow travelling narco-libertarians, maintain that Ukraine is not a vital US interest and we need to stay away.
So what is a vital U.S. interest? Philippines? Cuba? Hawaii? California? At what point is action of any kind a necessity?
I did, now answer mine--------how did viet nam serve the national interests of the USA?
Where was your answer defining what a vital US interest is? All I saw was you putting words in my mouth. Either answer the question and start a dialogue or shut the fuck up and go post somewhere else.
I answered your original question in post #14. But let me expand. Our national interest is when the physical land of the USA or its possessions or allies is threatened, when US citizens abroad are threatened, or when our financial, infrastructure, or security systems are threatened.
We have no national interest in trying to prevent the people of crimea from deciding their own fate.
Where was your answer defining what a vital US interest is? All I saw was you putting words in my mouth. Either answer the question and start a dialogue or shut the fuck up and go post somewhere else.
I answered your original question in post #14. But let me expand. Our national interest is when the physical land of the USA or its possessions or allies is threatened, when US citizens abroad are threatened, or when our financial, infrastructure, or security systems are threatened.
We have no national interest in trying to prevent the people of crimea from deciding their own fate.
Post #14 was not an answer. But anyway.
Would Russia taking over other countries in E.Europe constitute a threat? Recall that, what is it, Lithuania and Estonia? are NATO members, thus technically allies.
