What if we had?

[Cold Fusion38]

Oh and tell me Dave how many crops can be harvested MULTIPLE TIMES during one season?

 

[DiamondDave]

Coca? WTH are you talking about? Coca doesn't grow here. Neither does coffee. Neither has industrial uses other than their leaves/berries.

Hemp grows anywhere. And there really isn't any plant that can substitute its properties. Hemp has virtually no THC.

1) It could grow in places in the US such as Hawaii, etc
2) There ARE industrial uses of coca.. pretty easy to look up if you would take the few minutes to use a search engine
3) Even with those other uses... the fact that it can be used to also make toxic/illegal/narcotic substances, it should not and will not be legalized

Hemp gives no significant benefit over other plants or alternatives.. PERIOD... we are well advanced past hemp ropes, etc.. just as we are advanced past crude animal skins for our main source of clothing... hemp will remain illegal because of the THC content, as we have a zero tolerance law for that narcotic in open trade (as it should be)...

 

[veritas]

Statement of Congressman Ron Paul
United States House of Representatives
Statement Introducing HR 1866, Industrial Hemp Farming Act
April 2, 2009

Madam Speaker, I rise to introduce the Industrial Hemp Farming Act. The Industrial Hemp Farming Act requires the federal government to respect state laws allowing the growing of industrial hemp.

Eight States–Hawaii, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Montana, North Dakota, Vermont, and West Virginia–allow industrial hemp production or research in accord with state laws. However, federal law is standing in the way of farmers in these states growing what may be a very profitable crop. Because of current federal law, all hemp included in products sold in the United States must be imported instead of being grown by American farmers.

Since 1970, the federal Controlled Substances Act’s inclusion of industrial hemp in the schedule one definition of marijuana has prohibited American farmers from growing industrial hemp despite the fact that industrial hemp has such a low content of THC (the psychoactive chemical in the related marijuana plant) that nobody can be psychologically affected by consuming hemp. Federal law concedes the safety of industrial hemp by allowing it to be legally imported for use as food.

The United States is the only industrialized nation that prohibits industrial hemp cultivation. The Congressional Research Service has noted that hemp is grown as an established agricultural commodity in over 30 nations in Europe, Asia, North America, and South America. The Industrial Hemp Farming Act will relieve this unique restriction on American farmers and allow them to grow industrial hemp in accord with state law.

Industrial hemp is a crop that was grown legally throughout the United States for most of our nation’s history. In fact, during World War II, the federal government actively encouraged American farmers to grow industrial hemp to help the war effort. The Department of Agriculture even produced a film “Hemp for Victory” encouraging the plant’s cultivation.

In recent years, the hemp plant has been put to many popular uses in foods and in industry. Grocery stores sell hemp seeds and oil as well as food products containing oil and seeds from the hemp plant. Industrial hemp is also included in consumer products such as paper, cloths, cosmetics, and carpet. One of the more innovative recent uses of industrial hemp is in the door frames of about 1.5 million cars. Hemp has even been used in alternative automobile fuel.

It is unfortunate that the federal government has stood in the way of American farmers, including many who are struggling to make ends meet, competing in the global industrial hemp market. Indeed, the founders of our nation, some of whom grew hemp, would surely find that federal restrictions on farmers growing a safe and profitable crop on their own land are inconsistent with the constitutional guarantee of a limited, restrained federal government. Therefore, I urge my colleagues to stand up for American farmers and cosponsor the Industrial Hemp Farming Act.

Ron Paul and Barney Frank Introduce Hemp Farming Legislation – HR 1866 | Ron Paul .com

 

[DiamondDave]

Oh and tell me Dave how many crops can be harvested MULTIPLE TIMES during one season?

Yes.. we need the fast growing rate to supply that insatiable need for hemp sacks, hemp handbags, etc

It gives no significant advantage over any other fiber materials... let alone the increasing quality of the latest synthetics

The only reason, when it comes down to it, is the druggies wanting to legalize their high.... and with hemp, it is getting that foot hold so that the zero-tolerance for THC is lifted so they can take the next step so othey can get stones as they please

 

[veritas]

Coca? WTH are you talking about? Coca doesn't grow here. Neither does coffee. Neither has industrial uses other than their leaves/berries.

Hemp grows anywhere. And there really isn't any plant that can substitute its properties. Hemp has virtually no THC.

1) It could grow in places in the US such as Hawaii, etc
2) There ARE industrial uses of coca.. pretty easy to look up if you would take the few minutes to use a search engine
3) Even with those other uses... the fact that it can be used to also make toxic/illegal/narcotic substances, it should not and will not be legalized

Hemp gives no significant benefit over other plants or alternatives.. PERIOD... we are well advanced past hemp ropes, etc.. just as we are advanced past crude animal skins for our main source of clothing... hemp will remain illegal because of the THC content, as we have a zero tolerance law for that narcotic in open trade (as it should be)...

You are obviously ignorant AND uninformed. And just plain stupid.

 

[DiamondDave]

Statement of Congressman Ron Paul
United States House of Representatives
Statement Introducing HR 1866, Industrial Hemp Farming Act
April 2, 2009

Madam Speaker, I rise to introduce the Industrial Hemp Farming Act. The Industrial Hemp Farming Act requires the federal government to respect state laws allowing the growing of industrial hemp.

Eight States–Hawaii, Kentucky, Maine, Maryland, Montana, North Dakota, Vermont, and West Virginia–allow industrial hemp production or research in accord with state laws. However, federal law is standing in the way of farmers in these states growing what may be a very profitable crop. Because of current federal law, all hemp included in products sold in the United States must be imported instead of being grown by American farmers.

Since 1970, the federal Controlled Substances Act’s inclusion of industrial hemp in the schedule one definition of marijuana has prohibited American farmers from growing industrial hemp despite the fact that industrial hemp has such a low content of THC (the psychoactive chemical in the related marijuana plant) that nobody can be psychologically affected by consuming hemp. Federal law concedes the safety of industrial hemp by allowing it to be legally imported for use as food.

The United States is the only industrialized nation that prohibits industrial hemp cultivation. The Congressional Research Service has noted that hemp is grown as an established agricultural commodity in over 30 nations in Europe, Asia, North America, and South America. The Industrial Hemp Farming Act will relieve this unique restriction on American farmers and allow them to grow industrial hemp in accord with state law.

Industrial hemp is a crop that was grown legally throughout the United States for most of our nation’s history. In fact, during World War II, the federal government actively encouraged American farmers to grow industrial hemp to help the war effort. The Department of Agriculture even produced a film “Hemp for Victory” encouraging the plant’s cultivation.

In recent years, the hemp plant has been put to many popular uses in foods and in industry. Grocery stores sell hemp seeds and oil as well as food products containing oil and seeds from the hemp plant. Industrial hemp is also included in consumer products such as paper, cloths, cosmetics, and carpet. One of the more innovative recent uses of industrial hemp is in the door frames of about 1.5 million cars. Hemp has even been used in alternative automobile fuel.

It is unfortunate that the federal government has stood in the way of American farmers, including many who are struggling to make ends meet, competing in the global industrial hemp market. Indeed, the founders of our nation, some of whom grew hemp, would surely find that federal restrictions on farmers growing a safe and profitable crop on their own land are inconsistent with the constitutional guarantee of a limited, restrained federal government. Therefore, I urge my colleagues to stand up for American farmers and cosponsor the Industrial Hemp Farming Act.

Ron Paul and Barney Frank Introduce Hemp Farming Legislation – HR 1866 | Ron Paul .com

Ahhh.. 2 of the biggest whackos in the US government pushing for it... that makes it ALL sensible

 

[concept]

No one is stopping you from getting wasted.

 

[DiamondDave]

Coca? WTH are you talking about? Coca doesn't grow here. Neither does coffee. Neither has industrial uses other than their leaves/berries.

Hemp grows anywhere. And there really isn't any plant that can substitute its properties. Hemp has virtually no THC.

1) It could grow in places in the US such as Hawaii, etc
2) There ARE industrial uses of coca.. pretty easy to look up if you would take the few minutes to use a search engine
3) Even with those other uses... the fact that it can be used to also make toxic/illegal/narcotic substances, it should not and will not be legalized

Hemp gives no significant benefit over other plants or alternatives.. PERIOD... we are well advanced past hemp ropes, etc.. just as we are advanced past crude animal skins for our main source of clothing... hemp will remain illegal because of the THC content, as we have a zero tolerance law for that narcotic in open trade (as it should be)...

You are obviously ignorant AND uninformed. And just plain stupid.

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG

For EVERY use that you and others put forth for hemp, there are indeed alternatives, and many times BETTER alternatives...

But, you see, a druggie wants his initial step... his stepping stone to go forward to try and get his pot high legal....

 

[veritas]

I don't use drugs. I eat the occasional ibuprophen when necessary and antibiotics have saved my life on a couple of occasions. I don't drink either.

 

[veritas]

On an annual basis, 1 acre of hemp will produce as much fiber as 2 to 3 acres of cotton. Hemp fiber is stronger and softer than cotton, lasts twice as long as cotton, and will not mildew.

Cotton grows only in moderate climates and requires more water than hemp; but hemp is frost tolerant, requires only moderate amounts of water, and grows in all 50 states. Cotton requires large quantities of pesticides and herbicides--50% of the world's pesticides/herbicides are used in the production of cotton. Hemp requires no pesticides, no herbicides, and only moderate amounts of fertilizer.

On an annual basis, 1 acre of hemp will produce as much paper as 2 to 4 acres of trees. From tissue paper to cardboard, all types of paper products can be produced from hemp.

The quality of hemp paper is superior to tree-based paper. Hemp paper will last hundreds of years without degrading, can be recycled many more times than tree-based paper, and requires less toxic chemicals in the manufacturing process than does paper made from trees.

Hemp can be used to produce fiberboard that is stronger and lighter than wood. Substituting hemp fiberboard for timber would further reduce the need to cut down our forests.

Hemp can be used to produce strong, durable and environmentally-friendly plastic substitutes. Thousands of products made from petroleum-based plastics can be produced from hemp-based composites.

It takes years for trees to grow until they can be harvested for paper or wood, but hemp is ready for harvesting only 120 days after it is planted. Hemp can grow on most land suitable for farming, while forests and tree farms require large tracts of land available in few locations. Harvesting hemp rather than trees would also eliminate erosion due to logging, thereby reducing topsoil loss and water pollution caused by soil runoff.

Hemp seeds contain a protein that is more nutritious and more economical to produce than soybean protein. Hemp seeds are not intoxicating. Hemp seed protein can be used to produce virtually any product made from soybean: tofu, veggie burgers, butter, cheese, salad oils, ice cream, milk, etc. Hemp seed can also be ground into a nutritious flour that can be used to produce baked goods such as pasta, cookies, and breads.

Hemp seed oil can be used to produce non-toxic diesel fuel, paint, varnish, detergent, ink and lubricating oil. Because hemp seeds account for up to half the weight of a mature hemp plant, hemp seed is a viable source for these products.

Just as corn can be converted into clean-burning ethanol fuel, so can hemp. Because hemp produces more biomass than any plant species (including corn) that can be grown in a wide range of climates and locations, hemp has great potential to become a major source of ethanol fuel.

Hemp uses, information facts

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Dave you are so fing dumb it is almost criminal. HEMP has virtually ZERO THC. Do you understand? do you get it?

 

[veritas]

I also doubt Dave is an MD, Ron Paul is.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

Veritas I think Dave is a dumb shit lost cause. I think his father made him watch "Refer Madness" a hundred times.

 

[Cold Fusion38]

1) It could grow in places in the US such as Hawaii, etc
2) There ARE industrial uses of coca.. pretty easy to look up if you would take the few minutes to use a search engine
3) Even with those other uses... the fact that it can be used to also make toxic/illegal/narcotic substances, it should not and will not be legalized

Hemp gives no significant benefit over other plants or alternatives.. PERIOD... we are well advanced past hemp ropes, etc.. just as we are advanced past crude animal skins for our main source of clothing... hemp will remain illegal because of the THC content, as we have a zero tolerance law for that narcotic in open trade (as it should be)...

You are obviously ignorant AND uninformed. And just plain stupid.

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG

For EVERY use that you and others put forth for hemp, there are indeed alternatives, and many times BETTER alternatives...

But, you see, a druggie wants his initial step... his stepping stone to go forward to try and get his pot high legal....

So instead of producing ONE easily grown crop for MANY uses we should grow HUNDREDS of other crops that are HARDER to grow so we don't have people smoking a product with ZERO THC!

 

[veritas]

Hemp as public enemy #1



Hemp was the first plant known to have been domestically cultivated. The oldest relic of human history is hemp fabric dated to 8,000 BC from ancient Mesopotamia, an area in present-day Turkey. It has been grown as long as recorded history for food, fuel, fiber, and for another legitimate use, which is not even discussed here for the sake of brevity medicine. So, with all these uses and benefits, why is cannabis cultivation illegal in the United States today? Here is a brief history of cannabis prohibition:

Hemp was a primary source of paper, textile, and cordage fiber for thousands of years until just after the turn of the 20th century. It was at this time that companies like DuPont first developed chemicals that enabled trees to be processed into paper.

DuPont's chemicals made wood pulp paper cheaper than paper made from annual crops like hemp. At the same time Wm. Randolph Hearst, the owner of the largest newspaper chain in the United States, backed by Mellon Bank, invested significant capital in timberland and wood paper mills to produce his newsprint using DuPont's chemicals.

DuPont also developed nylon fiber as a direct competitor to hemp in the textile and cordage industries. Nylon was even billed as synthetic hemp.

DuPont was also manufacturing chemical pesticides, herbicides, and fertilizers useful in the cotton industry, another hemp competitor.

Mellon Bank, owned by U.S. Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon, was also DuPont's primary financier. Mellon's niece was married to Harry Anslinger, deputy commissioner of the federal government's alcohol prohibition campaign. After the repeal of Prohibition, Anslinger and his entire federal bureau were out of a job. But Treasurer Mellon didn't let that happen. Andrew Mellon single-handedly created a new government bureaucracy, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, to keep his family and friends employed. And then he unapologetically appointed his own niece's husband, Harry Anslinger, as head of the new multimillion dollar bureaucracy.

At the same time, a machine was developed that was to hemp what the cotton gin was to cotton: it allowed hemp's long, tough fiber to be mass processed efficiently and economically for the first time. Popular Mechanics, in February 1937, predicted hemp would be the world's first "Billion Dollar Crop" that would support thousands of jobs and provide a vast array of consumer products from dynamite to plastics.

This potential rejuvenation of hemp was a major threat to Secretary Mellon's friends and business associates, especially Randolph Hearst with his wood paper industry and Lammont DuPont with his petrochemical and synthetic fiber conglomerates. After all, hemp farmers wouldn't need DuPont's chemicals to grow their hemp because the crop is self-sufficient. The hemp-based ethanol fuel that was mentioned in the Popular Mechanics' article probably didn't sit too well with the oil companies of the time. They also couldn't have been too thrilled to learn that this same plant produced high-strength plastics without a petroleum base. The hemp-based plastics developed at the time were stronger and lighter than steel, which we can imagine wasn't the best news for the steel industry.

In addition, the growing pharmaceutical companies were producing synthetic drugs to replace natural medicines. Hemp extract was used for thousands of years to effectively treat everything from epileptic fits to rheumatoid arthritis. Chances are, hemp's resurgence wasn't good news for these drug companies either.

What we see is that the potential revival of the hemp industry was a threat to almost all the corporate giants of the time, and Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon was at the top of this food chain.

So Commissioner Anslinger, Mellon's appointee, begins researching rumors that immigrants from Mexico are smoking the flowers of the hemp plant. Racism was rampant at the time, and there was a government movement to curb the number of immigrants crossing the U.S. border at Mexico. Anslinger plugged into the racist sentiment, and began referring to the "hemp" that Americans knew cannabis to be, as "marijuana," the Mexican slang word for the plant. He labeled it as a "narcotic" even though cannabis flowers cannot cause narcosis, and spread exaggerated stories and outright lies that Mexicans and blacks became violent and disrespectful to whites when they smoked the "evil menace marijuana."

This slander of cannabis was all just fine for Anslinger's friends, the Mellons, the DuPonts, and the Hearsts. In fact, Hearst's newspapers picked up on the propaganda and fueled the fire by publishing hundreds of lurid stories about people raping and murdering while under the influence of marijuana. The sensationalism sold lots of newspapers, and the people of the country actually based their opinions on this one-sided information. Of course the stories never mentioned the hemp that people used everyday as rope, paper, medicine, and more. The stories always referred to cannabis by the Mexican slang word, marijuana.

With the moral and prohibitive fervor of the time duly stirred, Anslinger took his show to Congress. At the proceedings of the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937, Anslinger didn't mention that marijuana was hemp. And because anti-marijuana propaganda didn't mention that basic fact, hemp industries found out almost too late about the effort to criminalize cannabis cultivation. Testimony was heard from the full gamut of hemp companies and advocates, from birdseed suppliers to cordage manufacturers, from farmers to physicians, all touting hemp's importance in American history and the many industrial, agricultural, medicinal, and economic benefits of cannabis. Only after their testimony, was the wording of the bill changed to allow for the continued legal cultivation of industrial hemp. Anslinger even backed off on hemp prohibition in a very cunning maneuver.

After the Act was passed, Anslinger single-handedly usurped congressional power by mandating hemp prohibition. He justified his action by saying that his agents couldn't tell the difference between industrial hemp and marijuana in the field, so hemp cultivation made enforcement of marijuana prohibition impossible. This unconstitutional usurpation of congressional law is still in effect today as the Department of Justice and the DEA still cling to Anslinger's unjust and unjustifiable prohibition on domestic hemp cultivation.

ET 1/99: The history and benefits of hemp

 

[veritas]

Looks like Dave left. He must live up in the panhandle. Dam#4 maybe.

 

[Gunny]

What if we had something that could be used to make clothes?

What if we had something to make paper?

What if we had something that has seeds that have oil that could be used to fuel our cars?

What if we had something that has fibers we could build with?

What if we had something that literally grows like a weed in every type of climate?

What if we had a NATURAL drug that could help aleviate the pain and suffering of chemotherapy?

What if we had a drug that has numerous WELL documented medicinal properties?

What if we had something with almost limitless uses?

We DO and the ONLY reason we don't use it is because of ignorance about Marajuana.

Newsflash for ya: this about as "current" an event as the Carter Presidency.

 

[veritas]

It's not a reality yet, and people like Dave are living in the dark ages.

 

[veritas]

You suck Gunny.

This is not the appropriate forum for current legal/politics.

 

[Emma]

Forget its so-so effectiveness as an antiemetic. This is far more promising.


Journal of Clinical Investigation -- Inhibition of skin tumor growth and angiogenesis in vivo by activation of cannabinoid receptors

Nonmelanoma skin cancer is one of the most common malignancies in humans. Different therapeutic strategies for the treatment of these tumors are currently being investigated. Given the growth-inhibiting effects of cannabinoids on gliomas and the wide tissue distribution of the two subtypes of cannabinoid receptors (CB1 and CB2), we studied the potential utility of these compounds in anti–skin tumor therapy. Here we show that the CB1 and the CB2 receptor are expressed in normal skin and skin tumors of mice and humans. In cell culture experiments pharmacological activation of cannabinoid receptors induced the apoptotic death of tumorigenic epidermal cells, whereas the viability of nontransformed epidermal cells remained unaffected. Local administration of the mixed CB1/CB2 agonist WIN-55,212-2 or the selective CB2 agonist JWH-133 induced a considerable growth inhibition of malignant tumors generated by inoculation of epidermal tumor cells into nude mice. Cannabinoid-treated tumors showed an increased number of apoptotic cells. This was accompanied by impairment of tumor vascularization, as determined by altered blood vessel morphology and decreased expression of proangiogenic factors (VEGF, placental growth factor, and angiopoietin 2). Abrogation of EGF-R function was also observed in cannabinoid-treated tumors. These results support a new therapeutic approach for the treatment of skin tumors.

Press Releases: 2004

Cannabinoids, the active ingredients in marijuana, restrict the sprouting of blood vessels to brain tumors by inhibiting the expression of genes needed for the production of vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF).
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he researchers also discovered that cannabinoids apparently worked by increasing the activity of ceramide, a lipid mediator of apoptosis, resulting in the functional inhibition of cells needed for VEGF production. The ability of cannabinoids to alter VEGF production was significantly stifled following the introduction of a ceramide inhibitor.
As far as we know, this is the first report showing that ceramide depresses VEGF pathway by interfering with VEGF production,” according to Guzmán.
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[t]he scientists obtained tumor biopsies from two patients with glioblastomas who had failed standard therapy, including surgery, radiotherapy and chemotherapy. The biopsied tissue was analyzed before and after local injection of a cannabinoid.

“In both patients, VEGF levels in tumor extracts were lower after cannabinoid inoculation,” said Guzmán.

The results, he added, suggest a potential new approach toward the treatment of these otherwise intractable brain tumors.

http://www.fasebj.org/cgi/reprint/17/12/1771.pdf

Cannabinoid receptor 1 is a potential drug target for treatment of translocation-positive rhabdomyosarcoma — Mol Cancer Ther

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http://www.biochemsoctrans.cn/bst/033/0712/0330712.pdf

Plant-derived and endogenous cannabinoids have potent anti-neoplastic properties. A number of cannabinoid compounds have antitumoural action in different tumour types, via induction of apoptosis, cell cycle arrest or inhibition of angiogenesis and metastasis.


Lung carcinoma; In vivo (mouse); Tumour size decreased: cell growth inhibition

Glioma; In vitro; In vivo (mouse, rat, human); Tumour size decreased: apoptosis, reduced angiogenesis: blocked VEGF pathway

Thyroid epithelioma; In vitro; In vivo (mouse); Decreased tumour size: cell cycle arrest

Lymphoma/leukaemia; In vitro; In vivo (mouse); Decreased tumour size: apoptosis

Breast carcinoma; In vitro; Cell-cycle arrest

Prostate carcinoma; In vitro; Apoptosis

Neuroblastoma; In vitro; Apoptosis

Colorectal carcinoma; In vitro; Growth inhibition