What if Israel Quite Trying to Play the Nice Guy

[montelatici]

It's been tried. Playing nice resulted in settlement building in Gaza. The only reason the settlements were removed is because they were too difficult to defend. Had the Palestinians played nice there would be Jewish settlements all over Gaza.

And, you only read Ziionist propaganda and then spread the propaganda here. Not only is there a shortage of concrete, there is a shortage of everything.

"January 14, 2016

From Banned Crayons To Concrete, Gaza Struggles To Rebuild After A Decade Of Israeli Blockade
In addition to essential building supplies like boards and concrete, Israel’s blocked crayons, soccer balls, musical instruments and even potato chips from entering Gaza.

“The supplies contained mainly essential foodstuffs and water filters, which are essential in the Strip because the water there is practically undrinkable. The Palestinian Coalition Against the Blockade intends to give priority to hospitals, where the need for clean water is paramount. For many months, the blockade prevented filters from entering Gaza, producing a serious threat to public health.”

It was hoped at that time that such filters, and other supplies, would be readily imported to Gaza. However, this was not the case, and Palestinians relied on tunnels between Gaza and Egypt described as “virtually the only way that goods have reached the residents of the tiny territory.” In September of 2015, Egypt, in complicity with Israel, flooded the tunnels, effectively closing off Gaza from the rest of the world."

From Banned Crayons To Concrete, Gaza Struggles To Rebuild After A Decade Of Israeli Blockade

 

[Boston1]

The Israeli's could flatten Gaza any time its wants. Just look at how much damage they did in just a week or two

If Israel wanted to, the pali's wouldn't last ten minutes.

No Israel is playing real nice by simply walling you clowns off and leaving you to rot. I'd cut off all aid and utilities and make the terrorists come out with their hands up in their underwear to register for any more welfare like the UNWRA refuses to do now.

This one was caught wearing suicide undies ;--)

 

[montelatici]

Yes, Israel can and has flattened Gaza more than once. Israel has also murdered thousands of civilians in Gaza while flattening Gaza, mostly women and children. I see you are proud of that.

 

[Boston1]

I can see you are still struggling with that whole truthfulness thing.

The pali's hide behind their own woman and send their own children out as suicide bombers.

And now you cry fowl when they get injured ?

Really

NEXT

Just imagine how many could be dead given just how many terrorists there are hiding in among the civilians. Oh Israel is playing the nice guy all right.

 

[Shusha]

Oh and that 1.5 million tons of concrete thing, just goes to prove that the pali's don't care about people, they care about killing.

Well, I think rather it is an indication of the ideology of the people. The people are, on some level, assisting Hamas in obtaining and using the concrete for the one purpose rather than the other. They actively assist by applying multiple times for concrete for the same construction project and by providing labour in building of the tunnels.

Yes, I understand there is some element of coercion within Gaza, but there is also an element of support and even complicity among the people there.

Part of that ideology is the requirement for sacrifice in order to achieve a "greater good". This is the same ideology that demands that they place bombs on their children. Sadly, the "greater good" seems to be to harm Jews rather than build something for themselves. Sacrifice has a great deal of merit and value in their society if it does the work of harming Jews. Thus, they sacrifice homes to build tunnels. And then turn around an blame the Jews for the very problem they are causing by their own choices. It feeds their ideology to be victims and to "have" to sacrifice. It gives them more reason to harm Jews.

Because, ultimately, harming Jews has more ideological value to them than solving the conflict and living in peace with Jews. For them, its a larger war than just Gaza. And, if Gaza has to be the vanguard of sacrifice, or the mechanism of the destruction of the Jews, so be it.

 

[montelatici]

What is "Cry fowl" business, are you referring to some sort chicken?

I am merely stating fact as I always do. I remarked that you enjoy gloating over the murder of Christians and Muslims. Yes, Mr. Fowl Christians were murdered by the Israelis in Gaza too.

 

[montelatici]

Oh and that 1.5 million tons of concrete thing, just goes to prove that the pali's don't care about people, they care about killing.

Well, I think rather it is an indication of the ideology of the people. The people are, on some level, assisting Hamas in obtaining and using the concrete for the one purpose rather than the other. They actively assist by applying multiple times for concrete for the same construction project and by providing labour in building of the tunnels.

Yes, I understand there is some element of coercion within Gaza, but there is also an element of support and even complicity among the people there.

Part of that ideology is the requirement for sacrifice in order to achieve a "greater good". This is the same ideology that demands that they place bombs on their children. Sadly, the "greater good" seems to be to harm Jews rather than build something for themselves. Sacrifice has a great deal of merit and value in their society if it does the work of harming Jews. Thus, they sacrifice homes to build tunnels. And then turn around an blame the Jews for the very problem they are causing by their own choices. It feeds their ideology to be victims and to "have" to sacrifice. It gives them more reason to harm Jews.

Because, ultimately, harming Jews has more ideological value to them than solving the conflict and living in peace with Jews. For them, its a larger war than just Gaza. And, if Gaza has to be the vanguard of sacrifice, or the mechanism of the destruction of the Jews, so be it.

The Jews have no interest in living in peace unless the non-Jews passively accept Jewish rule. That's the problem.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

It's been tried. Playing nice resulted in settlement building in Gaza. The only reason the settlements were removed is because they were too difficult to defend. Had the Palestinians played nice there would be Jewish settlements all over Gaza.

And, you only read Ziionist propaganda and then spread the propaganda here. Not only is there a shortage of concrete, there is a shortage of everything.

"January 14, 2016

From Banned Crayons To Concrete, Gaza Struggles To Rebuild After A Decade Of Israeli Blockade
In addition to essential building supplies like boards and concrete, Israel’s blocked crayons, soccer balls, musical instruments and even potato chips from entering Gaza.

“The supplies contained mainly essential foodstuffs and water filters, which are essential in the Strip because the water there is practically undrinkable. The Palestinian Coalition Against the Blockade intends to give priority to hospitals, where the need for clean water is paramount. For many months, the blockade prevented filters from entering Gaza, producing a serious threat to public health.”

It was hoped at that time that such filters, and other supplies, would be readily imported to Gaza. However, this was not the case, and Palestinians relied on tunnels between Gaza and Egypt described as “virtually the only way that goods have reached the residents of the tiny territory.” In September of 2015, Egypt, in complicity with Israel, flooded the tunnels, effectively closing off Gaza from the rest of the world."

From Banned Crayons To Concrete, Gaza Struggles To Rebuild After A Decade Of Israeli Blockade

If there's such a shortage of concrete, why are the Hamas thugs busy rebuilding the tunnels right now? What are they using for the material? There's been alot of stories lately about the tunnels collapsing and killing the builders. Hand of Gd? There's also stories of the Egyptians flooding the tunnels.

 

[montelatici]

There is a shortage of concrete, concrete is not allowed to be imported.

 

[Shusha]

It's been tried. Playing nice resulted in settlement building in Gaza. The only reason the settlements were removed is because they were too difficult to defend. Had the Palestinians played nice there would be Jewish settlements all over Gaza.

And the problem with THAT, is what, exactly? There are Arab Palestinians "settlements" all over Israel. The result is a vibrant multicultural society.

Unless one fundamentally believes that you can't live with Jews -- what is the problem?

And, you only read Ziionist propaganda and then spread the propaganda here. Not only is there a shortage of concrete....

So....the tunnels don't exist? They are just propaganda? Or they aren't really made of concrete? That is just propaganda? Or the estimates of how much concrete is used to make the tunnels is way off? That is just propaganda?

Don't make silly arguments. There is concrete in Gaza. There are millions of tons of concrete in Gaza.

 

[Slyhunter]

There is a shortage of concrete, concrete is not allowed to be imported.

Then where are they getting the concrete for their tunnels?

 

[montelatici]

There are no Arab settlements in Israel, they are towns that the Israelis were not able to ethnically cleanse in time before the UN threatened to intervene. They were there long before the Zionists arrived. The Arabs in Israel are second-class citizens. They cannot lease/buy land that has

It's been tried. Playing nice resulted in settlement building in Gaza. The only reason the settlements were removed is because they were too difficult to defend. Had the Palestinians played nice there would be Jewish settlements all over Gaza.

And the problem with THAT, is what, exactly? There are Arab Palestinians "settlements" all over Israel. The result is a vibrant multicultural society.

Unless one fundamentally believes that you can't live with Jews -- what is the problem?

And, you only read Ziionist propaganda and then spread the propaganda here. Not only is there a shortage of concrete....

So....the tunnels don't exist? They are just propaganda? Or they aren't really made of concrete? That is just propaganda? Or the estimates of how much concrete is used to make the tunnels is way off? That is just propaganda?

Don't make silly arguments. There is concrete in Gaza. There are millions of tons of concrete in Gaza.

You really do buy the propaganda. There is very little concrete in Gaza and what is there came through the tunnels. Israel has banned the import of concrete.

The tunnels are used to import concrete that Israel does not allow to be imported. What else can the Palestinians do to get their hands on concrete.

 

[Boston1]

There is a shortage of concrete, concrete is not allowed to be imported.

Yikes you are on a role today, one lie after another.

the UNHRA a palestinian run organization is in charge of concrete in Gaza. One more reason they should be expelled from the war zone. Obviously they are funneling concrete to the terrorists.

No worries tho. Soon as the Israeli's quit playing nice the pali's days of terrorism are numbered.

 

[montelatici]

You are the liar par excellence. The facts, from Bloomberg no less. Is there any particular reason why you enjoy being made a fool of?

Gaza's Next Disaster: No Cement for Rebuilding

Next Gaza Disaster After War With Israel: No Cement for Rebuilding - Businessweek

 

[Boston1]

You seem to be having those comprehension problems again

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...YWB8p-CY1K7KPNQZi_R3LA&bvm=bv.113943665,d.amc

Gaza lies about supplies


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...mDTRLSMUqVejKWQfqwW3lA&bvm=bv.113943665,d.amc

How about another


https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...0j3stJ4Vpv-cXse1AMsltA&bvm=bv.113943665,d.amc

 

[montelatici]

Well, well, some more propaganda from propaganda sites. You get a gold star for being consistent.

 

[Shusha]

The Jews have no interest in living in peace unless the non-Jews passively accept Jewish rule. That's the problem.

Which does not in any way address my points about Arab Muslim Palestinian ideology.

The Jewish people have an ideology as well, of course. The Jewish people want very much to live in peace with people. It has been our wish for thousands of years. We have no desire to live with people wish us harm though. So, I guess, yes that means that we expect you to "passively" accept Jewish rule.

The question is why Jewish rule is such a problem. As opposed to Muslim rule, or Christian rule? Especially when that religion is tempered quite a bit by modern thinking and democracy.

 

[Boston1]

Monty's never going to develop the courage to address the topic. He/she simply can't comprehend the issues.

Israel is playing nice by merely isolating the terrorists. But some day soon enough Israel will get sick of it and start playing hard ball.

When that day arrives its going to be a very short lived conflict indeed.

 

[Shusha]

Monte, there is a great deal of difference between there being NO concrete in Gaza and there being no concrete available for building homes, hospitals, schools, water treatment plants and bomb shelters in Gaza.

If there are tunnels in Gaza, there is concrete in Gaza. Don't make silly arguments.

 

[montelatici]

As the Bloomberg article confirms, there is no cement to build in Gaza. Why must you just deny fact?