Zone1 what happens after death?

Lucky guess.
* Mithra was born on December 25th. Called "Birthday of the Unconquered Sun", it was incorporated into the church in the 4th century AD as the birthday of Christ. Although Jesus was born in October, christians today celebrate Mithra' birthday, believing it was Jesus' birthday.

* Mithra' birth was witnessed by shepherds and by Magi (wise men) who brought gifts to his sacred birth-cave of the Rock

* He was considered a great travelling teacher and master.

* He had 12 companions or disciples, which in Mithraism were represented by the 12 astrological signs.

* He performed miracles.

* He was buried in a tomb.

* After three days he rose again, but with no witnesses to the event

* His triumph over death and ascension to heaven were celebrated at the Mithran's most important festival, Easter, held at the spring equinox when the sun rises toward its apogee

* Mithra was called "the Good Shepherd."

* He was considered "the Way, the Truth and the Light, the Redeemer, the Savior, the Messiah."

* In the cult's rituals, Mithra was identified with both the Lion and the Lamb.

* His sacred day was Sunday, and was called "the Lord's Day" hundreds of years before the appearance of Christ.

* Mithraism had a Eucharist or "Lord's Supper" in which bread was eaten as a symbol of Mithra' body, and wine was drunk as a symbol of the blood shed when Mithra overpowered and killed the bull

* Mithra performed many miracles, including raising the dead, healing the sick, making the blind see and the lame walk, casting out devils.

* Mithra was said to carry keys to the kingdom of heaven.

* Mithra was called the god of light and truth, the god of mediation between god and man. He was to his worshippers The creator of life; The Mediator between man and the higher gods; The God of light; The All-seeing one; The Guardian of oaths (covenants); The Protector of the righteous in this world and also in the next.

* A trinity godhead comprised of Mithra (divine god of truth), Rashnu (divine god of justice, judgement and righteousness), Vohu Manah (divine spirit of enlightenment). These three persons were separate yet they were one.

Before returning to heaven, Mithra was said to have celebrated a Last Supper with followers, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac. In memory of this, his worshippers partook of a sacramental meal of bread marked with the Mithran cross of light. (see below) This was one of the seven Mithraic sacraments, believed to be the models for the Christians' seven sacraments, which follow them identically. It was called mizd, latin missa, in other words, English mass. Mithra' image was buried in a rock tomb, the same sacred cave that represented his mother's womb. He was withdrawn from it and said to live again.

Mithraism was an ascetic anti female religion whose priesthood consisted of celibate men only.

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I'm not so sure about this guy. What he says about Mithras is probably true. I'm just seeing an anti-Christian tone in some of his postings.
 
I never said God wants you to seek suffering. I said God does his best work when people are suffering. Why? Because suffering strips away their pride. Some people have to reach rock bottom before they change their ways. I'd like to say it's your lack of understanding that is hindering your progress but really it's your pride. Just remember... laughing leads to crying. So yuk it up while you can.

the heavens have forbidden themselves from earthly intervention - to use the 4th century christian bible for their crutch only perpetuates the crimes committed in the 1st century against the emissaries the heavens would have as their examples for others to emulate.

as proven by the deserts uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent.
 
Is that what I was doing? Or was I showing that even in an atheistic state that Christianity thrives? When man becomes satisfied he becomes proud and forgets God (America). It's the story of the OT. The good news is that when man suffers, he remembers God (China). God does his best work when man suffers.
Your statements are only of concern towards religious indoctrinated folks. BTW the vast majority of "Christians" in China certainly don't suffer, since they belong to the wealthy and well off Chinese population. And they are also the ones who apply in vast majority for visas and PR's, where religion has a "positive impact" - like for those setting their eye's onto e.g the "Christian" indoctrinated USA.

An atheist - if he "suffers" - won't appeal or seek a solution in religion or some God - but via taking active actions towards solving the respective issue by himself.

I don't pray to a God to get a job or a better job, - I actively send out my CV and actively improve my qualification.
I don't pray to a God to make it rain - but dig/drill actively a well and/or set up an irrigation system.
I don't go to church and pray to God to stop COVID - but I actively wear a mask and reduce/avoid social contact for the time being.
(The latter only proof's as to how hopelessly backward and indoctrinated religious people are).

Neither do I need to pray to a non-existing God to avoid a war - but via electing a government that is capable and willing to prevent one. Your God nor any religion has prevented a single war - but religious belief (as such defining/creating moral "values" and therefore a sociology and material egoistic mentality in humans) is factually the primary cause for wars, which is then initiated by those "religiously" educated elites.

So tell me, I need to pray to some God, or believe in religious dogmas, for what?
Because the basis for Darwinism is things don't happen randomly. That life evolved the way it did for logical reasons
I don't care about Darwinism - since as I had stated already, it is not a science. The "explanations" (the theories of evolution) offered via Darwinism, a 180 years ago towards evolution processes, are however increasingly backed by science aka scientific research & evidence.

Whilst religion got absolutely nothing to show for (proof) - aside from stoically referencing from some self-written books, obviously written by non scientific knowledgeable people (therefore fantasizing), thousands of years ago.

Science certainly does not exclude "random events" in regards to lifeforms evolving on earth - they are most likely absolutely vital towards the evolution processes that we know of.
Starting of with e.g. random Gene/Cell mutations - that also provide new evolutionary substance - right down to the random occurrence of meteors/asteroids having (proven) effects onto the evolutionary process of planet earth, and e.g. random changes in the earth climate.

As such in reference to the TOPIC - if one dies and isn't cremated - ones body simply decomposes. Thus feeding existing and new animal and plant life. And if you manged to create something of worth or significant for mankind - the memory towards you, might live on forever.
 
the heavens have forbidden themselves from earthly intervention - to use the 4th century christian bible for their crutch only perpetuates the crimes committed in the 1st century against the emissaries the heavens would have as their examples for others to emulate.

as proven by the deserts uninterrupted history of persecution and victimization of the innocent.
That's nice. Please tell me more.
 
Your statements are only of concern towards religious indoctrinated folks. BTW the vast majority of "Christians" in China certainly don't suffer, since they belong to the wealthy and well off Chinese population. And they are also the ones who apply in vast majority for visas and PR's, where religion has a "positive impact" - like for those setting their eye's onto e.g the "Christian" indoctrinated USA.

An atheist - if he "suffers" - won't appeal or seek a solution in religion or some God - but via taking active actions towards solving the respective issue by himself.

I don't pray to a God to get a job or a better job, - I actively send out my CV and actively improve my qualification.
I don't pray to a God to make it rain - but dig/drill actively a well and/or set up an irrigation system.
I don't go to church and pray to God to stop COVID - but I actively wear a mask and reduce/avoid social contact for the time being.
(The latter only proof's as to how hopelessly backward and indoctrinated religious people are).

Neither do I need to pray to a non-existing God to avoid a war - but via electing a government that is capable and willing to prevent one. Your God nor any religion has prevented a single war - but religious belief (as such defining/creating moral "values" and therefore a sociology and material egoistic mentality in humans) is factually the primary cause for wars, which is then initiated by those "religiously" educated elites.

So tell me, I need to pray to some God, or believe in religious dogmas, for what?

I don't care about Darwinism - since as I had stated already, it is not a science. The "explanations" (the theories of evolution) offered via Darwinism, a 180 years ago towards evolution processes, are however increasingly backed by science aka scientific research & evidence.

Whilst religion got absolutely nothing to show for (proof) - aside from stoically referencing from some self-written books, obviously written by non scientific knowledgeable people (therefore fantasizing), thousands of years ago.

Science certainly does not exclude "random events" in regards to lifeforms evolving on earth - they are most likely absolutely vital towards the evolution processes that we know of.
Starting of with e.g. random Gene/Cell mutations - that also provide new evolutionary substance - right down to the random occurrence of meteors/asteroids having (proven) effects onto the evolutionary process of planet earth, and e.g. random changes in the earth climate.

As such in reference to the TOPIC - if one dies and isn't cremated - ones body simply decomposes. Thus feeding existing and new animal and plant life. And if you manged to create something of worth or significant for mankind - the memory towards you, might live on forever.
tl/dr
 
So according to your logic, God would require a body and brain?
The Hebrew concept of The Essence of Life-source of life (God) is not a man nor form (not a vessel), an Essence is in the nature of the process not the processor nor vessel holding the processor, the actual nature of the process and processor.
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Isaiah 42:8 we can't pray to any image of anything physical- Exodus 20:3-7 and Deuteronomy 5:8-10



God is not a man nor form-(Isaiah 2:22, 14:13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, and Hosea 11:9, Deuteronomy 4:11-12 and the 13 major principles of the Jewish faith based on the Rambam's teaching of "ain lo demus haguf ve'ayno guf" -- that Hashem has no physical form.)
 
If you want to remain an ignorant atheist-materialist, that's your prerogative.

I'm not an atheist I just know that ghosts don't exist

From Ghoulies and Ghosties,
And long-leggity Beasties,
And all Things that go bump in the Night,
Good Lord deliver us.
 
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Humans actually knew the earth was round as early as 2500 years ago. Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the planet to an astounding accuracy of around 99%. Other civilizations, like the Chinese and Indians were already speculating that the Earth was spherical.

The average person did not.

You don't seem to realize that the vast majority of people in the Iron Age were illiterate uneducated unsophisticated and superstitious.

Don't confuse what a few extremely educated and intelligent people knew with what everyone else believed. And don't forget these very intelligent people of the Iron Age thought the universe revolved around the Earth.
 
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The Hebrew concept of The Essence of Life-source of life (God) is not a man nor form (not a vessel), an Essence is in the nature of the process not the processor nor vessel holding the processor, the actual nature of the process and processor.
Sources:



Isaiah 42:8 we can't pray to any image of anything physical- Exodus 20:3-7 and Deuteronomy 5:8-10



God is not a man nor form-(Isaiah 2:22, 14:13, I Samuel 15:29, Numbers 23:19, and Hosea 11:9, Deuteronomy 4:11-12 and the 13 major principles of the Jewish faith based on the Rambam's teaching of "ain lo demus haguf ve'ayno guf" -- that Hashem has no physical form.)
Seems to be a disconnect then with his creatures needing bodies and brains for the afterlife. Do those bodies and brains of God's creatures age in the afterlife? Do they still need to eat and poop?
 

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