What happened to liberals pushing gun control?

[Jarhead]

Liberals are spineless cowards and know they can not win!

No...politicians that cater to a liberal base use it as a platform to get elected...but those same politicans are completely aware that such a ban would prove to be a dangerous thing for our republic.

Gun control and gun banning is like closing GITMO.....something to promise that you know you will never be able to stick to.

I laugh at all that fall for the open promises made by both sides of the aisle.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Don't you know? We took all your guns away....like you said we would.

If you arent going to even -try- to engage in some sort of serious conversation, please don't waste everyone's time.

 

[M14 Shooter]

It is the NRA that relies on the liberals to periodically push some minor gun control legislation. Without the "Libruls gunna take your guns away" mantra, the NRA would have zero fund raising

This might be true if the only the the NRA did was defend gun rights.
But, anyone familiar with the organization knows there's a lot more to it than that.

Given your response, it's clear you arent familiar with the organization, and as such, your commentary regarding what it wants, needs, does, etc, is spoken from a position of ignorance.

 

[Jarhead]

It is the NRA that relies on the liberals to periodically push some minor gun control legislation. Without the "Libruls gunna take your guns away" mantra, the NRA would have zero fund raising

This migh tbe true if the only the the NRA did was defend gun rights.
But, anyone familiar with the organization knows there's a lot more to it than that.

Given your response, it's clear you arent familiar with the organization, and as such, your commentary regarding what it wants, needs, does, etc, is spoken from a position of ignorance.

I am finding many on the left only debate or comment on things they hear...not on things they know.
Not all....but many.

I assume the same holds true for the right.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Gun control and gun banning is like closing GITMO.....something to promise that you know you will never be able to stick to.

This isnt really true -- they used to at least try to stick to that promise, and they used to have some success.
Now, they've stopped making the promise almost completely.
Has to be a reason for that change.

 

[Old Rocks]

Sure, we know that there is a lot more to the NRA than that. They also defend the right of the Merchants of Death to export guns into any voliatile situation.

 

[rightwinger]

It is the NRA that relies on the liberals to periodically push some minor gun control legislation. Without the "Libruls gunna take your guns away" mantra, the NRA would have zero fund raising

This migh tbe true if the only the the NRA did was defend gun rights.
But, anyone familiar with the organization knows there's a lot more to it than that.

Given your response, it's clear you arent familiar with the organization, and as such, your commentary regarding what it wants, needs, does, etc, is spoken from a position of ignorance.

Oh yes...The NRA has strong programs on gun safety, hunter protections, education....

None of which draws any $$$$ for the NRA

Without the boogeyman of losing second amendment protections the NRA would be nothing more than your local rod and gun club

 

[rdean]

What happened to liberals pushing gun control?

At one point, they pushed it rather strongly. Nowadays its hardly ever brought up.

If the anti-gun crowd is so right, if their argument is so sound – why pull back from the issue?

Gun control group gives Obama an ?F? - TheHill.com

But the Brady Campaign, a leading advocacy group for stricter gun laws, said Obama actually has done little to clamp down on firearms since being elected. Instead, the president has signed into law two bills that favored gun-rights supporters.

Obama has relaxed gun laws more than any president in modern history.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Oh yes...The NRA has strong programs on gun safety, hunter protections, education....
None of which draws any $$$$ for the NRA

According to whom...?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Sure, we know that there is a lot more to the NRA than that. They also defend the right of the Merchants of Death to export guns into any voliatile situation.

This is nothing but hyperbole and melodrama, pursuant to no relevant point.

 

[Jarhead]

It is the NRA that relies on the liberals to periodically push some minor gun control legislation. Without the "Libruls gunna take your guns away" mantra, the NRA would have zero fund raising

This migh tbe true if the only the the NRA did was defend gun rights.
But, anyone familiar with the organization knows there's a lot more to it than that.

Given your response, it's clear you arent familiar with the organization, and as such, your commentary regarding what it wants, needs, does, etc, is spoken from a position of ignorance.

Oh yes...The NRA has strong programs on gun safety, hunter protections, education....

None of which draws any $$$$ for the NRA

Without the boogeyman of losing second amendment protections the NRA would be nothing more than your local rod and gun club

Whoa...now you are just saying stuff without any knowledge at all.

You are much better than that RW.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Gun control group gives Obama an ?F? - TheHill.com

But the Brady Campaign, a leading advocacy group for stricter gun laws, said Obama actually has done little to clamp down on firearms since being elected. Instead, the president has signed into law two bills that favored gun-rights supporters.

Obama has relaxed gun laws more than any president in modern history.

And yet, His past statements and stated positions indicate that He -clearly- supports increased controls, including bans, on guns -- but, neither He nor His liberal political allies pursue these goals.
Why?

 

[rdean]

Gun control group gives Obama an ?F? - TheHill.com

But the Brady Campaign, a leading advocacy group for stricter gun laws, said Obama actually has done little to clamp down on firearms since being elected. Instead, the president has signed into law two bills that favored gun-rights supporters.

Obama has relaxed gun laws more than any president in modern history.

And yet, His past statements and stated positions indicate that He -clearly- supports increased controls, including bans, on guns -- but, neither He nor His liberal political allies pursue these goals.
Why?

Because he lived in Chicago. It's different when you are president. What you want in one city doesn't mean you want that for the entire country.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Because he lived in Chicago. It's different when you are president. What you want in one city doesn't mean you want that for the entire country.

Not sure how much water this holds, especially if you don't apply it to everything else.
If the argument for the positions he stated is sound, then it is sound, period.

 

[SMkbby]

What happened to liberals pushing gun control?

At one point, they pushed it rather strongly. Nowadays its hardly ever brought up.

If the anti-gun crowd is so right, if their argument is so sound – why pull back from the issue?

Two reasons.
The Obama Promised that he would not push for more gun control.

The supreme court ruled it was unconstitutional to out law the owner ship of fire arms by law abiding citizens. Like Washington DC had out law hand guns. (one of the most violent cities in America when that law was enforced.)

Once the supreme court had it's say the fight for more control became imposable.

 

[rightwinger]

This migh tbe true if the only the the NRA did was defend gun rights.
But, anyone familiar with the organization knows there's a lot more to it than that.

Given your response, it's clear you arent familiar with the organization, and as such, your commentary regarding what it wants, needs, does, etc, is spoken from a position of ignorance.

Oh yes...The NRA has strong programs on gun safety, hunter protections, education....

None of which draws any $$$$ for the NRA

Without the boogeyman of losing second amendment protections the NRA would be nothing more than your local rod and gun club

Whoa...now you are just saying stuff without any knowledge at all.

You are much better than that RW.

I belonged to the NRA in the 60s and 70s. I witnessed the transformation from a group interested in Hunters rights and gun safety into a Second Amendment protective society. NRA mailings do not stress "Send us money for gun safety training" they know their hot button topic is "Liberals want to take away your second amendment rights"

It is a bigger issue with the NRA than it is with Liberals. As the OP notes, it is barely on the radar with liberals today

 

[Vast LWC]

What happened to liberals pushing gun control?

At one point, they pushed it rather strongly. Nowadays its hardly ever brought up.

If the anti-gun crowd is so right, if their argument is so sound – why pull back from the issue?

It was really only a small, loud, percentage of the left that wanted gun control at all.

For instance, I'm left-of-center, but I believe strongly in the right to bear arms.

The NRA has been pushing the idea that liberals are after your guns for quite some time, that way they get more funding.

 

[Modbert]

Without the boogeyman of losing second amendment protections the NRA would be nothing more than your local rod and gun club

This. The NRA seems to scare people into believing the Democrats are going to take their guns away. If anything, the Democrats would likely give more gun rights since they don't have enough spine to do otherwise.

 

[shintao]

We could do better at enforcing our existing gun laws. Kind of like immigration issues.

Actually, we could do better rescinding all gun laws and restoring the 2nd. All the gun laws combined have not stopped one shooting, IMO.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Liberals moved to big cities where we have control. Connies want to shoot it out..fine.

Have at it.

40,000 Americans die of gun shot wounds every year.

The reason the right to bear arms became one of the first "rights" is the reason why it should never be eliminated.

Two problems with this 'analysis': there is no evidence that the Bill of Rights is prioritized from most to least sacrosanct; and, anyone who has read history, especially biographies on the founders, understands that militias were volunteer armies under the control of and trained by officers appointed by civil authorities. The crazy groups today, running around the woods in camouflage costumes bear no resemblance to the 18th century militias.

As I wrote, the issue is an emotional one and no matter the evidence guns will be part of the landscape of the U.S. until we become civilized - and that ain;t gonna happen soon.