What experience has taught me

[Unkotare]

anger or hatred , does it really matter ?? Anger or hatred is going to require that you and your kids pay restitution Delores .

I've been in favor or reparations for a very long time.

Who pays these reparations?

Being so new to this forum, sometimes I'm confused about who is saying what to whom. If someone has asked me if I am Christian, the answer is yes.

Regarding reparations, I see it more as paying a debt. If we as a country would pay our debt to those who built our country and laid the foundation for its future wealth, we could put many complaints to rest. Once I pay my overdue bill, the stops ringing.

Our taxes have always gone to many who have not earned it. We pay subsidies to oil companies and large dairy farms. We pay politicians who already have millions of dollars to live on and go on recess more than they work. We pay foreign countries millions of dollars in aid. We pay so much for pet pork projects - like the bridge to nowhere? I believe that if we paid our debt by reinvesting in the inner cities we abandoned, it would go a long way towards creating peace in our nation.

I saw an episode of The United Shades of America. The host was talking to gang members in the south side of Chicago. As they walked through the neighborhood, they showed him "There used to be a rec center over there and we had organized basketball. There used to be a movie theater over there. There used to be a good school over there. But they took away all the funding and left us with no programs. They took away the jobs. What did they expect us to do but ban together and try to survive as best we could?"

This is childishly obtuse.

 

[williepete]

Maybe the same applies to a gun. Maybe that's the way God chooses to protect you.

Get one.

Good advice. I've heard it somewhere before.

Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36.

 

[pismoe]

anger or hatred , does it really matter ?? Anger or hatred is going to require that you and your kids pay restitution Delores .

I've been in favor or reparations for a very long time.

Who pays these reparations?

Being so new to this forum, sometimes I'm confused about who is saying what to whom. If someone has asked me if I am Christian, the answer is yes.

Regarding reparations, I see it more as paying a debt. If we as a country would pay our debt to those who built our country and laid the foundation for its future wealth, we could put many complaints to rest. Once I pay my overdue bill, the stops ringing.

Our taxes have always gone to many who have not earned it. We pay subsidies to oil companies and large dairy farms. We pay politicians who already have millions of dollars to live on and go on recess more than they work. We pay foreign countries millions of dollars in aid. We pay so much for pet pork projects - like the bridge to nowhere? I believe that if we paid our debt by reinvesting in the inner cities we abandoned, it would go a long way towards creating peace in our nation.

I saw an episode of The United Shades of America. The host was talking to gang members in the south side of Chicago. As they walked through the neighborhood, they showed him "There used to be a rec center over there and we had organized basketball. There used to be a movie theater over there. There used to be a good school over there. But they took away all the funding and left us with no programs. They took away the jobs. What did they expect us to do but ban together and try to survive as best we could?"

--------------------------------------------------------------- cool , saddle your kids with reparation debt , actally it makes me smile Delores .

 

[pismoe]

confined to one area , most people are confined to one area . Most people are confined because they have a job , friends , grocery stores , doctors , kids , schools , churches and other mundane services in one area Delores !!

Agreed. That's why most crimes are committed against someone within that area and who are usually the same race. Black-on-Black crime just gets more media attention and the entire area gets labeled bad. When white-on-white crime occurs, media doesn't similarly condemn the entire neighborhood.

And the name of the neighborhood anywhere in America where white thug criminals routinely shoot one another in the streets is?

Because there may not be a specific neighborhood to name at this time in history does not nullify the fact that there have been many mobsters, gangsters and criminals who did just that in our country. And they were glorified and idolized for it. Al Capone-the Chicago Outfit, the Irish Mob - oldest organized crime group in the U.S., the Italian mafia. But what I wonder is - did they or do they now call this white-on-white crime, and if not, why not? Why now, when black street gangs do the same thing - is it always and constantly referred to as black-on-black crime?

As I noted reading in a book recently - some blacks forget - they can act like white folks, but they will not be treated like white folks.

--------------------------------------------------------------------- black on black violence , heck , like i said , my good old DAD saw what was coming in the late 50s early 60s and he handled the situation for me and my 4 brothers , sisters and MOM !!

 

[blastoff]

confined to one area , most people are confined to one area . Most people are confined because they have a job , friends , grocery stores , doctors , kids , schools , churches and other mundane services in one area Delores !!

Agreed. That's why most crimes are committed against someone within that area and who are usually the same race. Black-on-Black crime just gets more media attention and the entire area gets labeled bad. When white-on-white crime occurs, media doesn't similarly condemn the entire neighborhood.

And the name of the neighborhood anywhere in America where white thug criminals routinely shoot one another in the streets is?

Because there may not be a specific neighborhood to name at this time in history does not nullify the fact that there have been many mobsters, gangsters and criminals who did just that in our country. And they were glorified and idolized for it. Al Capone-the Chicago Outfit, the Irish Mob - oldest organized crime group in the U.S., the Italian mafia. But what I wonder is - did they or do they now call this white-on-white crime, and if not, why not? Why now, when black street gangs do the same thing - is it always and constantly referred to as black-on-black crime?

As I noted reading in a book recently - some blacks forget - they can act like white folks, but they will not be treated like white folks.

Thanks for the long way of saying there isn't one.

 

[Liberty777]

anger or hatred , does it really matter ?? Anger or hatred is going to require that you and your kids pay restitution Delores .

I've been in favor or reparations for a very long time.

Who pays these reparations?

Being so new to this forum, sometimes I'm confused about who is saying what to whom. If someone has asked me if I am Christian, the answer is yes.

Regarding reparations, I see it more as paying a debt. If we as a country would pay our debt to those who built our country and laid the foundation for its future wealth, we could put many complaints to rest. Once I pay my overdue bill, the stops ringing.

Our taxes have always gone to many who have not earned it. We pay subsidies to oil companies and large dairy farms. We pay politicians who already have millions of dollars to live on and go on recess more than they work. We pay foreign countries millions of dollars in aid. We pay so much for pet pork projects - like the bridge to nowhere? I believe that if we paid our debt by reinvesting in the inner cities we abandoned, it would go a long way towards creating peace in our nation.

I saw an episode of The United Shades of America. The host was talking to gang members in the south side of Chicago. As they walked through the neighborhood, they showed him "There used to be a rec center over there and we had organized basketball. There used to be a movie theater over there. There used to be a good school over there. But they took away all the funding and left us with no programs. They took away the jobs. What did they expect us to do but ban together and try to survive as best we could?"

Who is this we? All Americans or just white Americans? Do Irish and Asian slaves get paid too?
So are you saying blacks can't rebuild these neighborhoods on their own. Are you saying blacks don't have the will or mindset to make their own communities survive.
Does the Bible teach us to blame others for our own shortcomings? Does the Bible teach us to forgive or does it teach us to remain angry? You can't help those who aren't willing to receive it.

 

[LOIE]

Maybe the same applies to a gun. Maybe that's the way God chooses to protect you.

Get one.

Good advice. I've heard it somewhere before.

Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36.

I've also heard this, "Put your sword back in its place, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword," Matthew 26:52, and I'd rather die peacefully.
We can pull scriptures out of context to prove all most anything we already believe to be true. The overwhelming theme of scripture is to love one another as God has loved us.

 

[pismoe]

Maybe the same applies to a gun. Maybe that's the way God chooses to protect you.

Get one.

Good advice. I've heard it somewhere before.

Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36.

I've also heard this, "Put your sword back in its place, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword," Matthew 26:52, and I'd rather die peacefully.
We can pull scriptures out of context to prove all most anything we already believe to be true. The overwhelming theme of scripture is to love one another as God has loved us.

---------------------------------------------- individual RIGHTS protected by USA Law is what rules us . Scripture means little to nothing in the secular USA Delores !!

 

[Spare_change]

Maybe the same applies to a gun. Maybe that's the way God chooses to protect you.

Get one.

Good advice. I've heard it somewhere before.

Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36.

I've also heard this, "Put your sword back in its place, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword," Matthew 26:52, and I'd rather die peacefully.
We can pull scriptures out of context to prove all most anything we already believe to be true. The overwhelming theme of scripture is to love one another as God has loved us.

---------------------------------------------- individual RIGHTS protected by USA Law is what rules us . Scripture means little to nothing in the secular USA Delores !!

... and we are the worse for it.

 

[LOIE]

Maybe the same applies to a gun. Maybe that's the way God chooses to protect you.

Get one.

Good advice. I've heard it somewhere before.

Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one. Luke 22:36.

I've also heard this, "Put your sword back in its place, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword," Matthew 26:52, and I'd rather die peacefully.
We can pull scriptures out of context to prove all most anything we already believe to be true. The overwhelming theme of scripture is to love one another as God has loved us.

---------------------------------------------- individual RIGHTS protected by USA Law is what rules us . Scripture means little to nothing in the secular USA Delores !!

I was simply responding to the Luke reference. Someone considers it good advice when a verse said to buy a sword. I consider it good advice to lay it down.

 

[pismoe]

and thats how people die and its how a buncha NEW slaves are made Delores .

 

[LOIE]

anger or hatred , does it really matter ?? Anger or hatred is going to require that you and your kids pay restitution Delores .

I've been in favor or reparations for a very long time.

Who pays these reparations?

Being so new to this forum, sometimes I'm confused about who is saying what to whom. If someone has asked me if I am Christian, the answer is yes.

Regarding reparations, I see it more as paying a debt. If we as a country would pay our debt to those who built our country and laid the foundation for its future wealth, we could put many complaints to rest. Once I pay my overdue bill, the stops ringing.

Our taxes have always gone to many who have not earned it. We pay subsidies to oil companies and large dairy farms. We pay politicians who already have millions of dollars to live on and go on recess more than they work. We pay foreign countries millions of dollars in aid. We pay so much for pet pork projects - like the bridge to nowhere? I believe that if we paid our debt by reinvesting in the inner cities we abandoned, it would go a long way towards creating peace in our nation.

I saw an episode of The United Shades of America. The host was talking to gang members in the south side of Chicago. As they walked through the neighborhood, they showed him "There used to be a rec center over there and we had organized basketball. There used to be a movie theater over there. There used to be a good school over there. But they took away all the funding and left us with no programs. They took away the jobs. What did they expect us to do but ban together and try to survive as best we could?"

Who is this we? All Americans or just white Americans? Do Irish and Asian slaves get paid too?
So are you saying blacks can't rebuild these neighborhoods on their own. Are you saying blacks don't have the will or mindset to make their own communities survive.
Does the Bible teach us to blame others for our own shortcomings? Does the Bible teach us to forgive or does it teach us to remain angry? You can't help those who aren't willing to receive it.

Wow. Lots here. I believe a government that can find funds to fight unnecessary wars and go to the moon can find funds to pay reparations to African Americans. Nobody builds anything totally alone. We all need help. Black people have survived what for most of us would have been insurmountable odds for many years. It attests to their strength that they are not extinct in our country, (like some would prefer them to be). While some folks do not believe the Bible and therefore don't like it to be quoted, I say that while Jesus definitely teaches forgiveness, he also fought injustice, like when he threw the money changers out of the temple. I personally believe that anger in and of itself does little, but anger which leads to action against injustice can be a positive thing. I doubt that any major city would be unwilling to receive funds to help rebuild since so many resources were taken out of the inner cities, like so many resources, material and human, were taken out of Africa. Stating facts about things that have happened is not blaming anyone. It is just stating facts.

 

[LOIE]

and thats how people die and its how a buncha NEW slaves are made Delores .

Can you explain that?

 

[pismoe]

new slaves will be paying reparations Delores .

 

[LOIE]

new slaves will be paying reparations Delores .

What new slaves?

 

[pismoe]

any American that is forced to pay reparations for slavery Delores !!

 

[LOIE]

any American that is forced to pay reparations for slavery Delores !!

Interesting. I don't see that as slavery. We've always been forced to pay taxes, and there has always been a national debt.

 

[pismoe]

any American that is forced to pay reparations for slavery Delores !!

------------------------------- see the above earlie post Delores !!

 

[ninja007]

In 1971 I moved from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania into the heart of a North Philadelphia ghetto to work with a Christian Youth Organization. One of my first memories of that move is a little black kid throwing a can at me while I thought, “What have I ever done to him?”

I had my purse and my favorite sneakers stolen, my room broken into more than once, and my personal safety threatened on numerous occasions.

In 1975 I was attacked from behind by a black man. He stuck a knife to my throat and said, “Get in the car white b**** or I’ll cut your f***** throat.

In 1978 I was thrown down a flight of stairs by a black teenager who threatened to rape and kill me.

Since my move to Germantown in 1979 I have been called white ass, white b**** and white trash. In 1989 an angry black woman threatened to kill me. In 1993 a hostile black teenage girl threatened to bash my head in with her shovel and bury my white ass in the snow.

However, these experiences have not served to make me a hateful person. They have not made me call Black people racists. They have not made me believe that Black people are violent. Even if I had hundreds of negative experiences with Black individuals, I cannot judge an entire race of people by the actions of a handful of folks. I’ve never judged my own race so. I’ve never thrown them all into the same category based on negative experiences with some of them.

My experiences have served to make me wonder what on earth has driven people to such extreme behaviors. They have served to make me strong and determined to do what I can to understand and bridge the gap between black and white people in my city and in our nation.

typical lib apologist drivel. I bet you thought 911 was our fault too, right?

guess what- people are responsible for their action- all races, all political affiliations. Its people like you are are part of the problem.

 

[fncceo]

No thanks. Every time I was in danger a prayer was all that was needed.

Not as efficacious as you might believe ...