What do average american patriots think about world war 2?

[BULLDOG]

Trump's chief strategist, Steve Bannon who was the head of Breitbart before joining Trump's cabinet, bragged that Breitbart was the goto site for the white supremacist, nationalist Alt Right

Was petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama's priest, for over 20 years, the one President Obama stated was a like a part of their family, married the Obama's and christened their two daughters, the Rev. Jerimiah Wright a racist? How about the Rev. Wright's close friend and associate, Minister Louis Farrakhan. Then there is Van Jones, outspoken Communist and President Obama's Green Czar.

The Rev. Al Sharpton, who owes over $4.5 million in income taxes visited the White House well over 100 times. Do you think of Al Sharpton as a racist? Have you forgotten Eric Holder and his actions?

Steve Bannon made a statement, he did not brag, he made a statement. But your desperation is so great that you want to frame President Donald Trump as a racist because he has one person whom you allege was a racist on his advisory team.

His preacher said something dumb and was vilified for it. You might note that is the only thing the right had to hammer him with. If he had made 20 years of remarks that the right could make any complaints about, you can bet your ass they would have.
I never heard Obama say anything good about Farrakhan. I don't think I ever heard anyone say anything good about Farrakhan. Sharpton is barely on the fringe, and any problems you think you have with holder are based on RWNJ rhetoric instead of reality. Bannon is his trump's chief strategist.

 

[fncceo]

More Americans hate Hitler than Disco.

Toss up. Disco didn't kill millions of my people.

 

[BULLDOG]

Lots of right wingers say that, but I never met a white guy that voted for Obama because he was black.

Right, you went around asking white people if they voted for petulant former President Barack Hussein Obama because he is of mixed race. You just can't make these things up!

Didn't have to go around asking people. I know a lot of people, and worked with a lot of people before I retired. Around election time, it's hard to get anyone to talk about anything but who they are voting for, and why.

 

[BULLDOG]

Thank you. Your odd color choice for text made your first posting of the link less than noticeable. Forgive me missing it, even after I went back and looked at previous posts.
Breitbart is far from credible, but I did read the article. There is nothing there to shed the title of racist. It's clear that the AltRight is a group of loosely associated Tribes that have similar tactics and are willing to say anything in support of their own tribe, and willing to say anything, no matter how absurd about anyone who isn't a member of their tribe. Logic and truth are not a limitation for their attacks on their targets. All that perfectly describes a large part of Trump's supporters. How was this supposed to convince me that the AltRight isn't racist?

How's my color choice odd? I love purple.

The information within the article credible, regardless of whether it's Breitbart or CNN, further proven by the fact that you attacked the source rather than the information therein, and your lack of a counterargument or link to back up your accusation of racism. Of course, the link and argument is less for you, the forum already knows you well enough, it's more for all the randoms that simply lurk. Your response is exactly what I expected, thus I'm not disappointed.

The color of your text and the color of the link are very similar. Easy for someone with less than perfect sight to see them as the same.
I'm not sure how my mistrust of Breitbart, with it's long documented history of blatant lies and misrepresentations proves the credibility of the article. You gotta explain that one to me.
Why would you expect a counter argument or link? I already said I have no desire to try to change you mind. You do remember that, don't you? I said that if you had credible evidence that the AltRight wasn't racist, I would appreciate the information. The request still stands. What you presented might be helpful for a mostly reasonable person looking and hoping for some way to justify their support for Trump with the large group of racists that share their support, but it does nothing to show the Alt Right isn't racist, or that other Trump supporters aren't joining forces with racist.

Well, then I'm sorry my color of choice is confusing to you. It was lighter, which may or may not have helped, but that bothered colorblind people.

Didn't expect a counterargument or a link, I expected you to make excuses, not read the article, pretend you have nothing to prove despite your lack of evidence or a source, and continue to call everyone racist. An actual discussion or debate is not something that I expected, which is why I said your responses are exactly what I expected, and that I was not disappointed. I'm only saying that hypothetically if what you wanted was a debate or a reasonable discussion, you'd have, again hypothetically, made a counterargument, or cited evidence and/or a source.

We on the forum know what to expect from you, I'm not here to change your mind, I'm here for the spectators.

You claimed that the AltRight wasn't white supremacists. Your didn't even come close to proving your claim. I find it odd that you think your claim requires me to convince you of anything. Hitler and all the other AltRight ideals are diametrically opposed to what American represents. You have failed to separate Trump supporters from the AltRight, and you have failed to separate the AltRight from Hitler and White Supremacists. I'll be here if you want to try again.

Your original claim was that the AltRight were racists, you did nothing. I at least provided an article with a breakdown, that's one more thing than your zero. I'd also like to point out that I wasn't trying to separate the AltRight from Trump, only pointing out that the sub group you with represented all of them is only an extremely loud minority within the group.

"Hitler and all of the other AltRight"? Now not only have you made two claims with nothing to back it up, but you've also called a staunch leftist AltRight. Or did you forget that Socialism is far left? Or are you going to go ahead and explain to me how Social control of industry, universal healthcare, and all citizens being employed by the state are right wing ideals. All of which Hitler implemented in Nazi(National Socialist) Germany.

On the other hand, much like every other time you've made a claim, you'll no doubt dodge debating and provide absolutely nothing to back it up.

If I cared to try to convince you of something you obviously will not accept, no matter what i might produce, I would give you links. If you remember, I already told you that your beliefs mean nothing to me,but if you had something credible to back up your claim that the altRight is not a bunch of Hitler loving racists, I would be interested in seeing it. Obviously you don't have anything like that.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Sure, some of Obama's supporters were racist.

SOME?

He was elected ONLY because of his race. If he were not black, he never would have held that office. It's that Black Privilege thing again

 

[BULLDOG]

Sure, some of Obama's supporters were racist.

SOME?

He was elected ONLY because of his race. If he were not black, he never would have held that office. It's that Black Privilege thing again

Yes, I know rush and hannity told you that. They also said the BP oil spill didn't cause any environmental damage.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

How's my color choice odd? I love purple.

The information within the article credible, regardless of whether it's Breitbart or CNN, further proven by the fact that you attacked the source rather than the information therein, and your lack of a counterargument or link to back up your accusation of racism. Of course, the link and argument is less for you, the forum already knows you well enough, it's more for all the randoms that simply lurk. Your response is exactly what I expected, thus I'm not disappointed.

The color of your text and the color of the link are very similar. Easy for someone with less than perfect sight to see them as the same.
I'm not sure how my mistrust of Breitbart, with it's long documented history of blatant lies and misrepresentations proves the credibility of the article. You gotta explain that one to me.
Why would you expect a counter argument or link? I already said I have no desire to try to change you mind. You do remember that, don't you? I said that if you had credible evidence that the AltRight wasn't racist, I would appreciate the information. The request still stands. What you presented might be helpful for a mostly reasonable person looking and hoping for some way to justify their support for Trump with the large group of racists that share their support, but it does nothing to show the Alt Right isn't racist, or that other Trump supporters aren't joining forces with racist.

Well, then I'm sorry my color of choice is confusing to you. It was lighter, which may or may not have helped, but that bothered colorblind people.

Didn't expect a counterargument or a link, I expected you to make excuses, not read the article, pretend you have nothing to prove despite your lack of evidence or a source, and continue to call everyone racist. An actual discussion or debate is not something that I expected, which is why I said your responses are exactly what I expected, and that I was not disappointed. I'm only saying that hypothetically if what you wanted was a debate or a reasonable discussion, you'd have, again hypothetically, made a counterargument, or cited evidence and/or a source.

We on the forum know what to expect from you, I'm not here to change your mind, I'm here for the spectators.

You claimed that the AltRight wasn't white supremacists. Your didn't even come close to proving your claim. I find it odd that you think your claim requires me to convince you of anything. Hitler and all the other AltRight ideals are diametrically opposed to what American represents. You have failed to separate Trump supporters from the AltRight, and you have failed to separate the AltRight from Hitler and White Supremacists. I'll be here if you want to try again.

Your original claim was that the AltRight were racists, you did nothing. I at least provided an article with a breakdown, that's one more thing than your zero. I'd also like to point out that I wasn't trying to separate the AltRight from Trump, only pointing out that the sub group you with represented all of them is only an extremely loud minority within the group.

"Hitler and all of the other AltRight"? Now not only have you made two claims with nothing to back it up, but you've also called a staunch leftist AltRight. Or did you forget that Socialism is far left? Or are you going to go ahead and explain to me how Social control of industry, universal healthcare, and all citizens being employed by the state are right wing ideals. All of which Hitler implemented in Nazi(National Socialist) Germany.

On the other hand, much like every other time you've made a claim, you'll no doubt dodge debating and provide absolutely nothing to back it up.

If I cared to try to convince you of something you obviously will not accept, no matter what i might produce, I would give you links. If you remember, I already told you that your beliefs mean nothing to me,but if you had something credible to back up your claim that the altRight is not a bunch of Hitler loving racists, I would be interested in seeing it. Obviously you don't have anything like that.

In other words, you have no source, and you have no links, so you're making excuses. If you had anything, you'd have provided links instead going in circles, as one is easier than the other.

It's the accuser that needs evidence, I already produced a breakdown as to what the AltRight are, you've produced nothing but excuses. As I said, if you're not here to debate, your presence on this forum is utterly pointless.

 

[BULLDOG]

The color of your text and the color of the link are very similar. Easy for someone with less than perfect sight to see them as the same.
I'm not sure how my mistrust of Breitbart, with it's long documented history of blatant lies and misrepresentations proves the credibility of the article. You gotta explain that one to me.
Why would you expect a counter argument or link? I already said I have no desire to try to change you mind. You do remember that, don't you? I said that if you had credible evidence that the AltRight wasn't racist, I would appreciate the information. The request still stands. What you presented might be helpful for a mostly reasonable person looking and hoping for some way to justify their support for Trump with the large group of racists that share their support, but it does nothing to show the Alt Right isn't racist, or that other Trump supporters aren't joining forces with racist.

Well, then I'm sorry my color of choice is confusing to you. It was lighter, which may or may not have helped, but that bothered colorblind people.

Didn't expect a counterargument or a link, I expected you to make excuses, not read the article, pretend you have nothing to prove despite your lack of evidence or a source, and continue to call everyone racist. An actual discussion or debate is not something that I expected, which is why I said your responses are exactly what I expected, and that I was not disappointed. I'm only saying that hypothetically if what you wanted was a debate or a reasonable discussion, you'd have, again hypothetically, made a counterargument, or cited evidence and/or a source.

We on the forum know what to expect from you, I'm not here to change your mind, I'm here for the spectators.

You claimed that the AltRight wasn't white supremacists. Your didn't even come close to proving your claim. I find it odd that you think your claim requires me to convince you of anything. Hitler and all the other AltRight ideals are diametrically opposed to what American represents. You have failed to separate Trump supporters from the AltRight, and you have failed to separate the AltRight from Hitler and White Supremacists. I'll be here if you want to try again.

Your original claim was that the AltRight were racists, you did nothing. I at least provided an article with a breakdown, that's one more thing than your zero. I'd also like to point out that I wasn't trying to separate the AltRight from Trump, only pointing out that the sub group you with represented all of them is only an extremely loud minority within the group.

"Hitler and all of the other AltRight"? Now not only have you made two claims with nothing to back it up, but you've also called a staunch leftist AltRight. Or did you forget that Socialism is far left? Or are you going to go ahead and explain to me how Social control of industry, universal healthcare, and all citizens being employed by the state are right wing ideals. All of which Hitler implemented in Nazi(National Socialist) Germany.

On the other hand, much like every other time you've made a claim, you'll no doubt dodge debating and provide absolutely nothing to back it up.

If I cared to try to convince you of something you obviously will not accept, no matter what i might produce, I would give you links. If you remember, I already told you that your beliefs mean nothing to me,but if you had something credible to back up your claim that the altRight is not a bunch of Hitler loving racists, I would be interested in seeing it. Obviously you don't have anything like that.

In other words, you have no source, and you have no links, so you're making excuses. If you had anything, you'd have provided links instead going in circles, as one is easier than the other.

It's the accuser that needs evidence, I already produced a breakdown as to what the AltRight are, you've produced nothing but excuses. As I said, if you're not here to debate, your presence on this forum is utterly pointless.

I'm not sure which I care less about. Arguing with a closed minded person such as your self, or whether that closed minded person approves of my presence on this forum.
As said, I, and anyone else who cares to read this can see that you are not open to admit changing your mind about whether the altRight is a bunch of Hitler loving racists. God, himself could tell you that they are, and you would publicly reject it. There is no reason for me to waste time on that effort. I, on the other hand, freely admit the possibility that I am mistaken, and invite you to prove your case. There is a real possibility that you could change my mind. All it takes is credible proof. Unfortunately, you haven't been able to even come close to that. You can't even show that the altRight will even universally reject Hitler and his systematic attempt to eradicate the Jews, or reject the KKK. How can you say the altRight is not a bunch of Hitler loving racist when large parts of the alt right go so far as to claim the holocaust didn't happen, or blacks are inferior?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Nearly 99% of those Hitler killed were White like Russians, Poles, Ukrainians, or White like such as Ashkenazi Jews.
Not to mention White gays, or White disabled.

 

[BULLDOG]

Nearly 99% of those Hitler killed were White like Russians, Poles, Ukrainians, or White like such as Ashkenazi Jews.
Not to mention White gays, or White disabled.

100% of those Hitler killed didn't deserve it. Those that celebrate his memory should rot in hell.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Well, then I'm sorry my color of choice is confusing to you. It was lighter, which may or may not have helped, but that bothered colorblind people.

Didn't expect a counterargument or a link, I expected you to make excuses, not read the article, pretend you have nothing to prove despite your lack of evidence or a source, and continue to call everyone racist. An actual discussion or debate is not something that I expected, which is why I said your responses are exactly what I expected, and that I was not disappointed. I'm only saying that hypothetically if what you wanted was a debate or a reasonable discussion, you'd have, again hypothetically, made a counterargument, or cited evidence and/or a source.

We on the forum know what to expect from you, I'm not here to change your mind, I'm here for the spectators.

You claimed that the AltRight wasn't white supremacists. Your didn't even come close to proving your claim. I find it odd that you think your claim requires me to convince you of anything. Hitler and all the other AltRight ideals are diametrically opposed to what American represents. You have failed to separate Trump supporters from the AltRight, and you have failed to separate the AltRight from Hitler and White Supremacists. I'll be here if you want to try again.

Your original claim was that the AltRight were racists, you did nothing. I at least provided an article with a breakdown, that's one more thing than your zero. I'd also like to point out that I wasn't trying to separate the AltRight from Trump, only pointing out that the sub group you with represented all of them is only an extremely loud minority within the group.

"Hitler and all of the other AltRight"? Now not only have you made two claims with nothing to back it up, but you've also called a staunch leftist AltRight. Or did you forget that Socialism is far left? Or are you going to go ahead and explain to me how Social control of industry, universal healthcare, and all citizens being employed by the state are right wing ideals. All of which Hitler implemented in Nazi(National Socialist) Germany.

On the other hand, much like every other time you've made a claim, you'll no doubt dodge debating and provide absolutely nothing to back it up.

If I cared to try to convince you of something you obviously will not accept, no matter what i might produce, I would give you links. If you remember, I already told you that your beliefs mean nothing to me,but if you had something credible to back up your claim that the altRight is not a bunch of Hitler loving racists, I would be interested in seeing it. Obviously you don't have anything like that.

In other words, you have no source, and you have no links, so you're making excuses. If you had anything, you'd have provided links instead going in circles, as one is easier than the other.

It's the accuser that needs evidence, I already produced a breakdown as to what the AltRight are, you've produced nothing but excuses. As I said, if you're not here to debate, your presence on this forum is utterly pointless.

I'm not sure which I care less about. Arguing with a closed minded person such as your self, or whether that closed minded person approves of my presence on this forum.
As said, I, and anyone else who cares to read this can see that you are not open to admit changing your mind about whether the altRight is a bunch of Hitler loving racists. God, himself could tell you that they are, and you would publicly reject it. There is no reason for me to waste time on that effort. I, on the other hand, freely admit the possibility that I am mistaken, and invite you to prove your case. There is a real possibility that you could change my mind. All it takes is credible proof. Unfortunately, you haven't been able to even come close to that. You can't even show that the altRight will even universally reject Hitler and his systematic attempt to eradicate the Jews, or reject the KKK. How can you say the altRight is not a bunch of Hitler loving racist when large parts of the alt right go so far as to claim the holocaust didn't happen, or blacks are inferior?

So I'm closed-minded for not marking the entirety of a movement as racist without evidence? You must not have considered the irony of that statement before making it.

You say there's no reason for you to waste time trying to change my mind, or by extension providing a source for your accusation, yet here you are, having already replied many times to me. It would have been faster and more productive to cite evidence or a source and debate over that. I suppose you'd rather waste your time telling me multiple times that you won't waste your time, instead of wasting your time having an actual debate over the subject? You're a person riddled with contradictions, or a person making excuses for having no evidence or source.

You can't show me that large parts claim the holocaust didn't happen, or that blacks are inferior. I suppose every Democrat in the entire Democratic Party is a Hitler-loving racist since not all of them has publicly rejected him? Oh, and Antifa, and the SJW movement. All of them need to do it, too. Oh, and the Black Panthers, and BLM. They all need to publicly reject Hitler and the KKK right now or they're all racist, no way around it. Obviously if someone doesn't publicly reject something, they're 100% for it. By your logic, anyway, but I highly doubt so many people use crackpot logic.

 

[Nosmo King]

Do you think "Germans are a brother nation and it was a mistake" or do you think "good we got rid of Hitler". I know some americans think Hitler was a good man, and that america was on the wrong side. I dont know how many though.

About 3.

Since demographic threats to white majorities in America and Europe, their numbers are increasing Im sure, many think If Hitler won the war, there wouldnt be "evil of political correctness and multiculturalism"

You have the gall to ascribe the word "evil" to multiculturalism and not the the tyranny of Nazi Germany? Nazi Germany that prosecuted the most destructive war on Europe and North Africa. Nazi Germany that rounded up an slaughtered innocent civilians because of their religious beliefs or physical disabilities or ethnicity. Nazi Germany that turned its citizens into police informanats against one another. Nazi Germany that denied political dissent.

You don't understand the meaning of "evil", or you seem to relish in diluting that most potent word into something cheap, something insignificant, something less than worthy.

 

[BULLDOG]

You claimed that the AltRight wasn't white supremacists. Your didn't even come close to proving your claim. I find it odd that you think your claim requires me to convince you of anything. Hitler and all the other AltRight ideals are diametrically opposed to what American represents. You have failed to separate Trump supporters from the AltRight, and you have failed to separate the AltRight from Hitler and White Supremacists. I'll be here if you want to try again.

Your original claim was that the AltRight were racists, you did nothing. I at least provided an article with a breakdown, that's one more thing than your zero. I'd also like to point out that I wasn't trying to separate the AltRight from Trump, only pointing out that the sub group you with represented all of them is only an extremely loud minority within the group.

"Hitler and all of the other AltRight"? Now not only have you made two claims with nothing to back it up, but you've also called a staunch leftist AltRight. Or did you forget that Socialism is far left? Or are you going to go ahead and explain to me how Social control of industry, universal healthcare, and all citizens being employed by the state are right wing ideals. All of which Hitler implemented in Nazi(National Socialist) Germany.

On the other hand, much like every other time you've made a claim, you'll no doubt dodge debating and provide absolutely nothing to back it up.

If I cared to try to convince you of something you obviously will not accept, no matter what i might produce, I would give you links. If you remember, I already told you that your beliefs mean nothing to me,but if you had something credible to back up your claim that the altRight is not a bunch of Hitler loving racists, I would be interested in seeing it. Obviously you don't have anything like that.

In other words, you have no source, and you have no links, so you're making excuses. If you had anything, you'd have provided links instead going in circles, as one is easier than the other.

It's the accuser that needs evidence, I already produced a breakdown as to what the AltRight are, you've produced nothing but excuses. As I said, if you're not here to debate, your presence on this forum is utterly pointless.

I'm not sure which I care less about. Arguing with a closed minded person such as your self, or whether that closed minded person approves of my presence on this forum.
As said, I, and anyone else who cares to read this can see that you are not open to admit changing your mind about whether the altRight is a bunch of Hitler loving racists. God, himself could tell you that they are, and you would publicly reject it. There is no reason for me to waste time on that effort. I, on the other hand, freely admit the possibility that I am mistaken, and invite you to prove your case. There is a real possibility that you could change my mind. All it takes is credible proof. Unfortunately, you haven't been able to even come close to that. You can't even show that the altRight will even universally reject Hitler and his systematic attempt to eradicate the Jews, or reject the KKK. How can you say the altRight is not a bunch of Hitler loving racist when large parts of the alt right go so far as to claim the holocaust didn't happen, or blacks are inferior?

So I'm closed-minded for not marking the entirety of a movement as racist without evidence? You must not have considered the irony of that statement before making it.

You say there's no reason for you to waste time trying to change my mind, or by extension providing a source for your accusation, yet here you are, having already replied many times to me. It would have been faster and more productive to cite evidence or a source and debate over that. I suppose you'd rather waste your time telling me multiple times that you won't waste your time, instead of wasting your time having an actual debate over the subject? You're a person riddled with contradictions, or a person making excuses for having no evidence or source.

You can't show me that large parts claim the holocaust didn't happen, or that blacks are inferior. I suppose every Democrat in the entire Democratic Party is a Hitler-loving racist since not all of them has publicly rejected him? Oh, and Antifa, and the SJW movement. All of them need to do it, too. Oh, and the Black Panthers, and BLM. They all need to publicly reject Hitler and the KKK right now or they're all racist, no way around it. Obviously if someone doesn't publicly reject something, they're 100% for it. By your logic, anyway, but I highly doubt so many people use crackpot logic.

Oh, lots of different styles used around here. In fact, you are beginning to sound like a well known poster who claims to have an unbelievably high IQ. He is known for making unbelievable statements.
I'm not opposed to wasting time, but it's my time, so I decide what to waste it on. Again, I know nothing I could put here will change your mind. Changing your mind or convincing you of anything is not my concern. I made that clear in the first contact we made and repeated it several time since.
All your histrionics still haven't given me a single reason to believe that a anti-multicultural group who is known to shout HEIL TRUMP and give the Nazi salute at Trump rallies and at their own gatherings is benign. There is enough evidence out there to show what the altRight really is. A quick google search will give a much more eloquent description of what the altRight really is than I ever could.
As a courtesy to you, I offered you the opportunity to prove your group is not what I already found it to be. You failed. Don't feel too bad, trying to make the AltRight into a sunday afternoon church social is not going to be as easy as you might think.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Your original claim was that the AltRight were racists, you did nothing. I at least provided an article with a breakdown, that's one more thing than your zero. I'd also like to point out that I wasn't trying to separate the AltRight from Trump, only pointing out that the sub group you with represented all of them is only an extremely loud minority within the group.

"Hitler and all of the other AltRight"? Now not only have you made two claims with nothing to back it up, but you've also called a staunch leftist AltRight. Or did you forget that Socialism is far left? Or are you going to go ahead and explain to me how Social control of industry, universal healthcare, and all citizens being employed by the state are right wing ideals. All of which Hitler implemented in Nazi(National Socialist) Germany.

On the other hand, much like every other time you've made a claim, you'll no doubt dodge debating and provide absolutely nothing to back it up.

If I cared to try to convince you of something you obviously will not accept, no matter what i might produce, I would give you links. If you remember, I already told you that your beliefs mean nothing to me,but if you had something credible to back up your claim that the altRight is not a bunch of Hitler loving racists, I would be interested in seeing it. Obviously you don't have anything like that.

In other words, you have no source, and you have no links, so you're making excuses. If you had anything, you'd have provided links instead going in circles, as one is easier than the other.

It's the accuser that needs evidence, I already produced a breakdown as to what the AltRight are, you've produced nothing but excuses. As I said, if you're not here to debate, your presence on this forum is utterly pointless.

I'm not sure which I care less about. Arguing with a closed minded person such as your self, or whether that closed minded person approves of my presence on this forum.
As said, I, and anyone else who cares to read this can see that you are not open to admit changing your mind about whether the altRight is a bunch of Hitler loving racists. God, himself could tell you that they are, and you would publicly reject it. There is no reason for me to waste time on that effort. I, on the other hand, freely admit the possibility that I am mistaken, and invite you to prove your case. There is a real possibility that you could change my mind. All it takes is credible proof. Unfortunately, you haven't been able to even come close to that. You can't even show that the altRight will even universally reject Hitler and his systematic attempt to eradicate the Jews, or reject the KKK. How can you say the altRight is not a bunch of Hitler loving racist when large parts of the alt right go so far as to claim the holocaust didn't happen, or blacks are inferior?

So I'm closed-minded for not marking the entirety of a movement as racist without evidence? You must not have considered the irony of that statement before making it.

You say there's no reason for you to waste time trying to change my mind, or by extension providing a source for your accusation, yet here you are, having already replied many times to me. It would have been faster and more productive to cite evidence or a source and debate over that. I suppose you'd rather waste your time telling me multiple times that you won't waste your time, instead of wasting your time having an actual debate over the subject? You're a person riddled with contradictions, or a person making excuses for having no evidence or source.

You can't show me that large parts claim the holocaust didn't happen, or that blacks are inferior. I suppose every Democrat in the entire Democratic Party is a Hitler-loving racist since not all of them has publicly rejected him? Oh, and Antifa, and the SJW movement. All of them need to do it, too. Oh, and the Black Panthers, and BLM. They all need to publicly reject Hitler and the KKK right now or they're all racist, no way around it. Obviously if someone doesn't publicly reject something, they're 100% for it. By your logic, anyway, but I highly doubt so many people use crackpot logic.

Oh, lots of different styles used around here. In fact, you are beginning to sound like a well known poster who claims to have an unbelievably high IQ. He is known for making unbelievable statements.
I'm not opposed to wasting time, but it's my time, so I decide what to waste it on. Again, I know nothing I could put here will change your mind. Changing your mind or convincing you of anything is not my concern. I made that clear in the first contact we made and repeated it several time since.
All your histrionics still haven't given me a single reason to believe that a anti-multicultural group who is known to shout HEIL TRUMP and give the Nazi salute at Trump rallies and at their own gatherings is benign. There is enough evidence out there to show what the altRight really is. A quick google search will give a much more eloquent description of what the altRight really is than I ever could.
As a courtesy to you, I offered you the opportunity to prove your group is not what I already found it to be. You failed. Don't feel too bad, trying to make the AltRight into a sunday afternoon church social is not going to be as easy as you might think.

And repeating it doesn't change the fact that your persistence in replying to me doesn't make any sense. If you're not interested in changing my mind or having a reasonable discussion or debate, then replying to me is utterly pointless. You're only replying because you want to convince me that you totally, TOTALLY have evidence and just don't want to go get it because you totally don't care. Totally.

You have no evidence that the people who did either of those things were AltRight. You also have yet to tell me where you got the notion that they're all racist, or what evidence drove you to that conclusion. No doubt because you have neither.

So, what evidence did your quick Google search provide you with? You know, that they're racist. I'm sure that all of those articles you read provided you with solid evidence rather than parroting that they're totally, totally racist, because they said so.

 

[BULLDOG]

If I cared to try to convince you of something you obviously will not accept, no matter what i might produce, I would give you links. If you remember, I already told you that your beliefs mean nothing to me,but if you had something credible to back up your claim that the altRight is not a bunch of Hitler loving racists, I would be interested in seeing it. Obviously you don't have anything like that.

In other words, you have no source, and you have no links, so you're making excuses. If you had anything, you'd have provided links instead going in circles, as one is easier than the other.

It's the accuser that needs evidence, I already produced a breakdown as to what the AltRight are, you've produced nothing but excuses. As I said, if you're not here to debate, your presence on this forum is utterly pointless.

I'm not sure which I care less about. Arguing with a closed minded person such as your self, or whether that closed minded person approves of my presence on this forum.
As said, I, and anyone else who cares to read this can see that you are not open to admit changing your mind about whether the altRight is a bunch of Hitler loving racists. God, himself could tell you that they are, and you would publicly reject it. There is no reason for me to waste time on that effort. I, on the other hand, freely admit the possibility that I am mistaken, and invite you to prove your case. There is a real possibility that you could change my mind. All it takes is credible proof. Unfortunately, you haven't been able to even come close to that. You can't even show that the altRight will even universally reject Hitler and his systematic attempt to eradicate the Jews, or reject the KKK. How can you say the altRight is not a bunch of Hitler loving racist when large parts of the alt right go so far as to claim the holocaust didn't happen, or blacks are inferior?

So I'm closed-minded for not marking the entirety of a movement as racist without evidence? You must not have considered the irony of that statement before making it.

You say there's no reason for you to waste time trying to change my mind, or by extension providing a source for your accusation, yet here you are, having already replied many times to me. It would have been faster and more productive to cite evidence or a source and debate over that. I suppose you'd rather waste your time telling me multiple times that you won't waste your time, instead of wasting your time having an actual debate over the subject? You're a person riddled with contradictions, or a person making excuses for having no evidence or source.

You can't show me that large parts claim the holocaust didn't happen, or that blacks are inferior. I suppose every Democrat in the entire Democratic Party is a Hitler-loving racist since not all of them has publicly rejected him? Oh, and Antifa, and the SJW movement. All of them need to do it, too. Oh, and the Black Panthers, and BLM. They all need to publicly reject Hitler and the KKK right now or they're all racist, no way around it. Obviously if someone doesn't publicly reject something, they're 100% for it. By your logic, anyway, but I highly doubt so many people use crackpot logic.

Oh, lots of different styles used around here. In fact, you are beginning to sound like a well known poster who claims to have an unbelievably high IQ. He is known for making unbelievable statements.
I'm not opposed to wasting time, but it's my time, so I decide what to waste it on. Again, I know nothing I could put here will change your mind. Changing your mind or convincing you of anything is not my concern. I made that clear in the first contact we made and repeated it several time since.
All your histrionics still haven't given me a single reason to believe that a anti-multicultural group who is known to shout HEIL TRUMP and give the Nazi salute at Trump rallies and at their own gatherings is benign. There is enough evidence out there to show what the altRight really is. A quick google search will give a much more eloquent description of what the altRight really is than I ever could.
As a courtesy to you, I offered you the opportunity to prove your group is not what I already found it to be. You failed. Don't feel too bad, trying to make the AltRight into a sunday afternoon church social is not going to be as easy as you might think.

And repeating it doesn't change the fact that your persistence in replying to me doesn't make any sense. If you're not interested in changing my mind or having a reasonable discussion or debate, then replying to me is utterly pointless. You're only replying because you want to convince me that you totally, TOTALLY have evidence and just don't want to go get it because you totally don't care. Totally.

You have no evidence that the people who did either of those things were AltRight. You also have yet to tell me where you got the notion that they're all racist, or what evidence drove you to that conclusion. No doubt because you have neither.

So, what evidence did your quick Google search provide you with? You know, that they're racist. I'm sure that all of those articles you read provided you with solid evidence rather than parroting that they're totally, totally racist, because they said so.

I usually respond for one of two reasons. I will either respond to clear up any reasonable questions you might have as well as I can, or I will respond to ridicule you. It looks like you ran out of reasonable questions several posts back.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

In other words, you have no source, and you have no links, so you're making excuses. If you had anything, you'd have provided links instead going in circles, as one is easier than the other.

It's the accuser that needs evidence, I already produced a breakdown as to what the AltRight are, you've produced nothing but excuses. As I said, if you're not here to debate, your presence on this forum is utterly pointless.

I'm not sure which I care less about. Arguing with a closed minded person such as your self, or whether that closed minded person approves of my presence on this forum.
As said, I, and anyone else who cares to read this can see that you are not open to admit changing your mind about whether the altRight is a bunch of Hitler loving racists. God, himself could tell you that they are, and you would publicly reject it. There is no reason for me to waste time on that effort. I, on the other hand, freely admit the possibility that I am mistaken, and invite you to prove your case. There is a real possibility that you could change my mind. All it takes is credible proof. Unfortunately, you haven't been able to even come close to that. You can't even show that the altRight will even universally reject Hitler and his systematic attempt to eradicate the Jews, or reject the KKK. How can you say the altRight is not a bunch of Hitler loving racist when large parts of the alt right go so far as to claim the holocaust didn't happen, or blacks are inferior?

So I'm closed-minded for not marking the entirety of a movement as racist without evidence? You must not have considered the irony of that statement before making it.

You say there's no reason for you to waste time trying to change my mind, or by extension providing a source for your accusation, yet here you are, having already replied many times to me. It would have been faster and more productive to cite evidence or a source and debate over that. I suppose you'd rather waste your time telling me multiple times that you won't waste your time, instead of wasting your time having an actual debate over the subject? You're a person riddled with contradictions, or a person making excuses for having no evidence or source.

You can't show me that large parts claim the holocaust didn't happen, or that blacks are inferior. I suppose every Democrat in the entire Democratic Party is a Hitler-loving racist since not all of them has publicly rejected him? Oh, and Antifa, and the SJW movement. All of them need to do it, too. Oh, and the Black Panthers, and BLM. They all need to publicly reject Hitler and the KKK right now or they're all racist, no way around it. Obviously if someone doesn't publicly reject something, they're 100% for it. By your logic, anyway, but I highly doubt so many people use crackpot logic.

Oh, lots of different styles used around here. In fact, you are beginning to sound like a well known poster who claims to have an unbelievably high IQ. He is known for making unbelievable statements.
I'm not opposed to wasting time, but it's my time, so I decide what to waste it on. Again, I know nothing I could put here will change your mind. Changing your mind or convincing you of anything is not my concern. I made that clear in the first contact we made and repeated it several time since.
All your histrionics still haven't given me a single reason to believe that a anti-multicultural group who is known to shout HEIL TRUMP and give the Nazi salute at Trump rallies and at their own gatherings is benign. There is enough evidence out there to show what the altRight really is. A quick google search will give a much more eloquent description of what the altRight really is than I ever could.
As a courtesy to you, I offered you the opportunity to prove your group is not what I already found it to be. You failed. Don't feel too bad, trying to make the AltRight into a sunday afternoon church social is not going to be as easy as you might think.

And repeating it doesn't change the fact that your persistence in replying to me doesn't make any sense. If you're not interested in changing my mind or having a reasonable discussion or debate, then replying to me is utterly pointless. You're only replying because you want to convince me that you totally, TOTALLY have evidence and just don't want to go get it because you totally don't care. Totally.

You have no evidence that the people who did either of those things were AltRight. You also have yet to tell me where you got the notion that they're all racist, or what evidence drove you to that conclusion. No doubt because you have neither.

So, what evidence did your quick Google search provide you with? You know, that they're racist. I'm sure that all of those articles you read provided you with solid evidence rather than parroting that they're totally, totally racist, because they said so.

I usually respond for one of two reasons. I will either respond to clear up any reasonable questions you might have as well as I can, or I will respond to ridicule you. It looks like you ran out of reasonable questions several posts back.

Asking where you got the notion that the AltRight are racists is only unreasonable to you because you have no source and no evidence to answer me with.

 

[BULLDOG]

I'm not sure which I care less about. Arguing with a closed minded person such as your self, or whether that closed minded person approves of my presence on this forum.
As said, I, and anyone else who cares to read this can see that you are not open to admit changing your mind about whether the altRight is a bunch of Hitler loving racists. God, himself could tell you that they are, and you would publicly reject it. There is no reason for me to waste time on that effort. I, on the other hand, freely admit the possibility that I am mistaken, and invite you to prove your case. There is a real possibility that you could change my mind. All it takes is credible proof. Unfortunately, you haven't been able to even come close to that. You can't even show that the altRight will even universally reject Hitler and his systematic attempt to eradicate the Jews, or reject the KKK. How can you say the altRight is not a bunch of Hitler loving racist when large parts of the alt right go so far as to claim the holocaust didn't happen, or blacks are inferior?

So I'm closed-minded for not marking the entirety of a movement as racist without evidence? You must not have considered the irony of that statement before making it.

You say there's no reason for you to waste time trying to change my mind, or by extension providing a source for your accusation, yet here you are, having already replied many times to me. It would have been faster and more productive to cite evidence or a source and debate over that. I suppose you'd rather waste your time telling me multiple times that you won't waste your time, instead of wasting your time having an actual debate over the subject? You're a person riddled with contradictions, or a person making excuses for having no evidence or source.

You can't show me that large parts claim the holocaust didn't happen, or that blacks are inferior. I suppose every Democrat in the entire Democratic Party is a Hitler-loving racist since not all of them has publicly rejected him? Oh, and Antifa, and the SJW movement. All of them need to do it, too. Oh, and the Black Panthers, and BLM. They all need to publicly reject Hitler and the KKK right now or they're all racist, no way around it. Obviously if someone doesn't publicly reject something, they're 100% for it. By your logic, anyway, but I highly doubt so many people use crackpot logic.

Oh, lots of different styles used around here. In fact, you are beginning to sound like a well known poster who claims to have an unbelievably high IQ. He is known for making unbelievable statements.
I'm not opposed to wasting time, but it's my time, so I decide what to waste it on. Again, I know nothing I could put here will change your mind. Changing your mind or convincing you of anything is not my concern. I made that clear in the first contact we made and repeated it several time since.
All your histrionics still haven't given me a single reason to believe that a anti-multicultural group who is known to shout HEIL TRUMP and give the Nazi salute at Trump rallies and at their own gatherings is benign. There is enough evidence out there to show what the altRight really is. A quick google search will give a much more eloquent description of what the altRight really is than I ever could.
As a courtesy to you, I offered you the opportunity to prove your group is not what I already found it to be. You failed. Don't feel too bad, trying to make the AltRight into a sunday afternoon church social is not going to be as easy as you might think.

And repeating it doesn't change the fact that your persistence in replying to me doesn't make any sense. If you're not interested in changing my mind or having a reasonable discussion or debate, then replying to me is utterly pointless. You're only replying because you want to convince me that you totally, TOTALLY have evidence and just don't want to go get it because you totally don't care. Totally.

You have no evidence that the people who did either of those things were AltRight. You also have yet to tell me where you got the notion that they're all racist, or what evidence drove you to that conclusion. No doubt because you have neither.

So, what evidence did your quick Google search provide you with? You know, that they're racist. I'm sure that all of those articles you read provided you with solid evidence rather than parroting that they're totally, totally racist, because they said so.

I usually respond for one of two reasons. I will either respond to clear up any reasonable questions you might have as well as I can, or I will respond to ridicule you. It looks like you ran out of reasonable questions several posts back.

Asking where you got the notion that the AltRight are racists is only unreasonable to you because you have no source and no evidence to answer me with.

Ok you silly little twat. We both know there is plenty to support my belief about your little playmates. Now put up or shut up. You seem to want to prove there is nothing wrong with that hateful group. Either do it or go away. This is not an invitation for you to come back with more silly bullshit. splain these to me or go play somewhere else..

 

[Pumpkin Row]

So I'm closed-minded for not marking the entirety of a movement as racist without evidence? You must not have considered the irony of that statement before making it.

You say there's no reason for you to waste time trying to change my mind, or by extension providing a source for your accusation, yet here you are, having already replied many times to me. It would have been faster and more productive to cite evidence or a source and debate over that. I suppose you'd rather waste your time telling me multiple times that you won't waste your time, instead of wasting your time having an actual debate over the subject? You're a person riddled with contradictions, or a person making excuses for having no evidence or source.

You can't show me that large parts claim the holocaust didn't happen, or that blacks are inferior. I suppose every Democrat in the entire Democratic Party is a Hitler-loving racist since not all of them has publicly rejected him? Oh, and Antifa, and the SJW movement. All of them need to do it, too. Oh, and the Black Panthers, and BLM. They all need to publicly reject Hitler and the KKK right now or they're all racist, no way around it. Obviously if someone doesn't publicly reject something, they're 100% for it. By your logic, anyway, but I highly doubt so many people use crackpot logic.

Oh, lots of different styles used around here. In fact, you are beginning to sound like a well known poster who claims to have an unbelievably high IQ. He is known for making unbelievable statements.
I'm not opposed to wasting time, but it's my time, so I decide what to waste it on. Again, I know nothing I could put here will change your mind. Changing your mind or convincing you of anything is not my concern. I made that clear in the first contact we made and repeated it several time since.
All your histrionics still haven't given me a single reason to believe that a anti-multicultural group who is known to shout HEIL TRUMP and give the Nazi salute at Trump rallies and at their own gatherings is benign. There is enough evidence out there to show what the altRight really is. A quick google search will give a much more eloquent description of what the altRight really is than I ever could.
As a courtesy to you, I offered you the opportunity to prove your group is not what I already found it to be. You failed. Don't feel too bad, trying to make the AltRight into a sunday afternoon church social is not going to be as easy as you might think.

And repeating it doesn't change the fact that your persistence in replying to me doesn't make any sense. If you're not interested in changing my mind or having a reasonable discussion or debate, then replying to me is utterly pointless. You're only replying because you want to convince me that you totally, TOTALLY have evidence and just don't want to go get it because you totally don't care. Totally.

You have no evidence that the people who did either of those things were AltRight. You also have yet to tell me where you got the notion that they're all racist, or what evidence drove you to that conclusion. No doubt because you have neither.

So, what evidence did your quick Google search provide you with? You know, that they're racist. I'm sure that all of those articles you read provided you with solid evidence rather than parroting that they're totally, totally racist, because they said so.

I usually respond for one of two reasons. I will either respond to clear up any reasonable questions you might have as well as I can, or I will respond to ridicule you. It looks like you ran out of reasonable questions several posts back.

Asking where you got the notion that the AltRight are racists is only unreasonable to you because you have no source and no evidence to answer me with.

Ok you silly little twat. We both know there is plenty to support my belief about your little playmates. Now put up or shut up. You seem to want to prove there is nothing wrong with that hateful group. Either do it or go away. This is not an invitation for you to come back with more silly bullshit. splain these to me or go play somewhere else..

The AltRight is too loosely organized to have a Leader, only he and his small group of supporters considers him such. He's part of that loud minority of 1488ers that thinks they're doing the movement favors. The second is just some random guy. I suppose if I showed up to a Democrat convention and said "Vote Democrat, heil!" that would make Democrats Nazis, right?

 

[BULLDOG]

Oh, lots of different styles used around here. In fact, you are beginning to sound like a well known poster who claims to have an unbelievably high IQ. He is known for making unbelievable statements.
I'm not opposed to wasting time, but it's my time, so I decide what to waste it on. Again, I know nothing I could put here will change your mind. Changing your mind or convincing you of anything is not my concern. I made that clear in the first contact we made and repeated it several time since.
All your histrionics still haven't given me a single reason to believe that a anti-multicultural group who is known to shout HEIL TRUMP and give the Nazi salute at Trump rallies and at their own gatherings is benign. There is enough evidence out there to show what the altRight really is. A quick google search will give a much more eloquent description of what the altRight really is than I ever could.
As a courtesy to you, I offered you the opportunity to prove your group is not what I already found it to be. You failed. Don't feel too bad, trying to make the AltRight into a sunday afternoon church social is not going to be as easy as you might think.

And repeating it doesn't change the fact that your persistence in replying to me doesn't make any sense. If you're not interested in changing my mind or having a reasonable discussion or debate, then replying to me is utterly pointless. You're only replying because you want to convince me that you totally, TOTALLY have evidence and just don't want to go get it because you totally don't care. Totally.

You have no evidence that the people who did either of those things were AltRight. You also have yet to tell me where you got the notion that they're all racist, or what evidence drove you to that conclusion. No doubt because you have neither.

So, what evidence did your quick Google search provide you with? You know, that they're racist. I'm sure that all of those articles you read provided you with solid evidence rather than parroting that they're totally, totally racist, because they said so.

I usually respond for one of two reasons. I will either respond to clear up any reasonable questions you might have as well as I can, or I will respond to ridicule you. It looks like you ran out of reasonable questions several posts back.

Asking where you got the notion that the AltRight are racists is only unreasonable to you because you have no source and no evidence to answer me with.

Ok you silly little twat. We both know there is plenty to support my belief about your little playmates. Now put up or shut up. You seem to want to prove there is nothing wrong with that hateful group. Either do it or go away. This is not an invitation for you to come back with more silly bullshit. splain these to me or go play somewhere else..

The AltRight is too loosely organized to have a Leader, only he and his small group of supporters considers him such. He's part of that loud minority of 1488ers that thinks they're doing the movement favors. The second is just some random guy. I suppose if I showed up to a Democrat convention and said "Vote Democrat, heil!" that would make Democrats Nazis, right?

If you showed up along with many others who give the Nazi Salute and yell heil, and the top Democrat on the ticket embraced you, there might be something to it. There is more to this than some random fringe. The only reason there is an effort to clean up their history is that too many of them are Trump's base, and he can't afford to acknowledge their support without at least white washing some of them.
The problem for Trump is that he thinks he can fool the country as easily as he fooled his base. Now, either give me some reason to believe yall aren't Hitler loving racists, or go away.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Do you think "Germans are a brother nation and it was a mistake" or do you think "good we got rid of Hitler". I know some americans think Hitler was a good man, and that america was on the wrong side. I dont know how many though.

Paranoiac Hitler pre-emptively attacked Russia, so he would have attacked us to make sure we wouldn't become a threat to him. Stalin faked a retreat in order to make the United States think Hitler would conquer Russia in 1941 and become much too strong with all that oil and slave labor.

Japan showed an immaturity that disqualified them from equal status with the rest of the world. They attacked us when they didn't need to, because FDR couldn't get away with starting the war himself.