What Cargo Plane had the most impact during WWII

[cnm]

- The Americans entered a war to prevent the spread of the USSR across Europe
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I thought they entered it when war was declared on them. No?

 

[cnm]

- The Americans fought against Japan only in sea and air battles
- Americans lost 30 thousand people in land wars with Japan

Somewhat confusing.

 

[cnm]

1. World War II killed 27 million Soviet citizens

Perhaps they shouldn't have invaded Poland.

 

[fncceo]

I can tell you which one had the least impact ...

 

[Daryl Hunt]

4. Americans sold it only in 1943-1945 !!!! When the Red Army already broke the United Europe with German Nazism ...

Oh. Who was filling the cargo ships before that?

The Arctic convoys of World War II were oceangoing convoys which sailed from the United Kingdom, Iceland, and North America to northern ports in the Soviet Union – primarily Arkhangelsk (Archangel) and Murmansk in Russia. There were 78 convoys between August 1941 and May 1945,[1] sailing via several seas of the Atlantic and Arctic oceans, with two gaps with no sailings between July and September 1942, and March and November 1943.
https://en.wikipedia.org​

Only 78 Convoys. That's a lot of tonnage when you consider that a convoy is many, many heavy merchant ships. But using the 78 number and estimating that the average number of merchant ships would be about 15 and the tonnage would be for each ship would be 7,100 GRT then that would mean that there would have been a total of 55,486,500 GRT of cargo delivered to just one port in Russia Via the Artic Route.

These were done by British Ships for the most part. But the supplies came primarily from the US and Canada that were delivered to either Britain or Iceland starting in August of 1941 for Canada and September for the US. it made the Merchant Fleet of the US targets for the German U-Boats in the Pacific until the US started to place escort Destroyers with them.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

4. Americans sold it only in 1943-1945 !!!! When the Red Army already broke the United Europe with German Nazism ...

Oh. Who was filling the cargo ships before that?

The Arctic convoys of World War II were oceangoing convoys which sailed from the United Kingdom, Iceland, and North America to northern ports in the Soviet Union – primarily Arkhangelsk (Archangel) and Murmansk in Russia. There were 78 convoys between August 1941 and May 1945,[1] sailing via several seas of the Atlantic and Arctic oceans, with two gaps with no sailings between July and September 1942, and March and November 1943.
https://en.wikipedia.org​

Only 78 Convoys. That's a lot of tonnage when you consider that a convoy is many, many heavy merchant ships. But using the 78 number and estimating that the average number of merchant ships would be about 15 and the tonnage would be for each ship would be 7,100 GRT then that would mean that there would have been a total of 55,486,500 GRT of cargo delivered to just one port in Russia Via the Artic Route.

These were done by British Ships for the most part. But the supplies came primarily from the US and Canada that were delivered to either Britain or Iceland starting in August of 1941 for Canada and September for the US. it made the Merchant Fleet of the US targets for the German U-Boats in the Pacific until the US started to place escort Destroyers with them.

Correction: In the Atlantic, not the Pacific

 

[Selivan]

These were done by British Ships

Do not write a lot of letters and numbers ...
Count:
- as a percentage of industry ...
- in the number of destroyed divisions and troops
- in the number of dead people

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You will get a simple conclusion:
1. The USSR defeated the united Europe, and not only Germany, when Europe was Nazism
2. The USSR defeated the militaristic Japan
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America entered the Second World War only when the Soviet Union broke all the enemies ...

That's all...
Learn History!

 

[Daryl Hunt]

These were done by British Ships

Do not write a lot of letters and numbers ...
Count:
- as a percentage of industry ...
- in the number of destroyed divisions and troops
- in the number of dead people

================================================== ========
You will get a simple conclusion:
1. The USSR defeated the united Europe, and not only Germany, when Europe was Nazism
2. The USSR defeated the militaristic Japan
---------------------------
America entered the Second World War only when the Soviet Union broke all the enemies ...

That's all...
Learn History!

On the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show, there was a skit called Cracked History that you would have been a great writer for.

 

[Selivan]

On the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show, there was a skit called Cracked History that you would have been a great writer for.

You do not answer a single question.
I see only your wry ...
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Buy yourself a fool's hat and be a clown
You are no longer interesting to me

 

[Daryl Hunt]

On the Rocky and Bullwinkle Show, there was a skit called Cracked History that you would have been a great writer for.

You do not answer a single question.
I see only your wry ...
-----------------------------
Buy yourself a fool's hat and be a clown
You are no longer interesting to me

I answer the questions you just don't like the answers. Too bad. I am done with your Putin Tool.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

4. Americans sold it only in 1943-1945 !!!! When the Red Army already broke the United Europe with German Nazism ...

Oh. Who was filling the cargo ships before that?

The Arctic convoys of World War II were oceangoing convoys which sailed from the United Kingdom, Iceland, and North America to northern ports in the Soviet Union – primarily Arkhangelsk (Archangel) and Murmansk in Russia. There were 78 convoys between August 1941 and May 1945,[1] sailing via several seas of the Atlantic and Arctic oceans, with two gaps with no sailings between July and September 1942, and March and November 1943.
https://en.wikipedia.org​

Only 78 Convoys. That's a lot of tonnage when you consider that a convoy is many, many heavy merchant ships. But using the 78 number and estimating that the average number of merchant ships would be about 15 and the tonnage would be for each ship would be 7,100 GRT then that would mean that there would have been a total of 55,486,500 GRT of cargo delivered to just one port in Russia Via the Artic Route.

These were done by British Ships for the most part. But the supplies came primarily from the US and Canada that were delivered to either Britain or Iceland starting in August of 1941 for Canada and September for the US. it made the Merchant Fleet of the US targets for the German U-Boats in the Pacific until the US started to place escort Destroyers with them.

Over 8000 Aircraft were flown through Nome Alaska along with millions of tons of cargo. Here are some news clips.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

4. Americans sold it only in 1943-1945 !!!! When the Red Army already broke the United Europe with German Nazism ...

Oh. Who was filling the cargo ships before that?

The Arctic convoys of World War II were oceangoing convoys which sailed from the United Kingdom, Iceland, and North America to northern ports in the Soviet Union – primarily Arkhangelsk (Archangel) and Murmansk in Russia. There were 78 convoys between August 1941 and May 1945,[1] sailing via several seas of the Atlantic and Arctic oceans, with two gaps with no sailings between July and September 1942, and March and November 1943.
https://en.wikipedia.org​

Only 78 Convoys. That's a lot of tonnage when you consider that a convoy is many, many heavy merchant ships. But using the 78 number and estimating that the average number of merchant ships would be about 15 and the tonnage would be for each ship would be 7,100 GRT then that would mean that there would have been a total of 55,486,500 GRT of cargo delivered to just one port in Russia Via the Artic Route.

These were done by British Ships for the most part. But the supplies came primarily from the US and Canada that were delivered to either Britain or Iceland starting in August of 1941 for Canada and September for the US. it made the Merchant Fleet of the US targets for the German U-Boats in the Pacific until the US started to place escort Destroyers with them.

Over 8000 Aircraft were flown through Nome Alaska along with millions of tons of cargo. Here are some news clips.

And let's not forget the Iran Bridge. Trucks, Jeeps, Food, Clothing, Cotton and more were sent through Iran. Plus, assembly plants were constructed in Iran as well to assemble trucks destined for the USSR by the US.

 

[Selivan]

I answer the questions you just don't like the answers. Too bad. I am done with your Putin Tool.

You do not answer my questions, and you are again grimacing, because you know that in America you can not give frank answers
You are a coward and chatterbox, I've seen so many on forums

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I answer the questions you just don't like the answers. Too bad. I am done with your Putin Tool.

You do not answer my questions and you are grimacing again, because you know that in America you can give frank answers
You are a coward

I had over 20 years in the Military. So much for being a coward. Am I afraid of you? Not hardly. You are just a paid shill of Putin. And he is really over paying you for the services you are rendering. You don't like the answers, too bad. Ask better questions. Or at least coherent ones.

 

[Selivan]

There are no figures for comparison ...
Empty chatter, calculated for stupid blondes ... like all Americans
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Nothing will come of it

 

[Selivan]

I answer the questions you just don't like the answers. Too bad. I am done with your Putin Tool.

You do not answer my questions and you are grimacing again, because you know that in America you can give frank answers
You are a coward

I had over 20 years in the Military. So much for being a coward. Am I afraid of you? Not hardly. You are just a paid shill of Putin. And he is really over paying you for the services you are rendering. You don't like the answers, too bad. Ask better questions. Or at least coherent ones.

You were in the ass, not in the armed forces ...
You tell your puppies to girls
Shit ...
I still thought that this scumbag was a good man.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

There are no figures for comparison ...
Empty chatter, calculated for stupid blondes ... like all Americans
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Nothing will come of it

You were given the figures for the North Atlantic route of over 500 million Tons. And you were given the over 8000 Fighters and Bombers by way of Nome Alaska along with millions of tons of other supplies. Plus you were given the hundreds of thousands of trucks by way of Iran. All of this by the Lend Lease Program by the US, Canada and Britain yet you deny it every happened. It started right after Germany attacked the USSR and almost drove your country across the Urals. Your USSR was half a second from losing Moscow, something no one had ever been able to do before. Your Fighters, even as crappy as they were, were largely destroyed on the ground and you had no real Air Force so for awhile, your Air Force was primarily made up of USSR Junk, Hurricanes, P-39s and P-40s. Your Bombers were real junk and were supported by B-25s. Your Tanks were junk in 1941 and 1942 and the Brits and US sent you light and medium tanks that at least stood a chance to slow the juggernaut down. Mostly, the tanks came from the Canadians and the Brits but a few Shermans made it.

It's been historically noted that during the cold war, the USSR has downplayed the lend lease period. Especially the 1941 and 1942 period where there were NO front line fighters equal to the ME-109 and the T-34 hadn't made it's way to the lines quite yet until late 1942. Without those lend lease supplies and weapons, Moscow would have surely fallen. Yes, in the end, only about 4% of all USSR supplies and equipment were from Lend Lease but that percentage was much higher during 1941 and 1942 in comparison to 1943 and on considering the USSR didn't have very much manufacturing during that time period. It seems the Germans were parked over most of it.

You also forget that the Brits sent Toolings and Manufacturing supplies and equipment to get the new factories up and running. In order to make the toolings, supplies and equipment first you have to have a manufacturing base. In 1941 and the first half of 1942 the USSR didn't have any to speak of.

You are spewing Cold War Crap. Since the Cold War ended, Russia has repaid all Lend Lease and has recognized the importance of the Lend Lease even by attending the various Lend Lease Monuments in places like Nome Alaska. Now, I realize that it was taught differently when you went to school but it's taught differently than that now in Russia. Now, it may be swinging back to the same cold war thinking, I don't know. But it was crap then. Sort of like what was taught in Japan for many years and still is.

Your propaganda is out of date, there, Comrade.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Someone stated that the best was the C-47. It was also flown by the USSR as well. They are in the process of recovering and rebuilding one of those C-47 recently that went down in 1953 that was war surplused by the USSR Air Force in 1945. This was part of the Lend Lease Program.

 

[Selivan]

You were given the figures for the North Atlantic route of over 500 million Tons. And you were given the over 8000 Fighters and Bombers by way of Nome Alaska along with millions of tons of other supplies. Plus you were given the hundreds of thousands of trucks by way of Iran. All of this by the Lend Lease Program by the US, Canada and Britain yet you deny it every happened. It started right after Germany attacked the USSR and almost drove your country across the Urals. Your USSR was half a second from losing Moscow, something no one had ever been able to do before. Your Fighters, even as crappy as they were, were largely destroyed on the ground and you had no real Air Force so for awhile, your Air Force was primarily made up of USSR Junk, Hurricanes, P-39s and P-40s. Your Bombers were real junk and were supported by B-25s. Your Tanks were junk in 1941 and 1942 and the Brits and US sent you light and medium tanks that at least stood a chance to slow the juggernaut down. Mostly, the tanks came from the Canadians and the Brits but a few Shermans made it.

It's been historically noted that during the cold war, the USSR has downplayed the lend lease period. Especially the 1941 and 1942 period where there were NO front line fighters equal to the ME-109 and the T-34 hadn't made it's way to the lines quite yet until late 1942. Without those lend lease supplies and weapons, Moscow would have surely fallen. Yes, in the end, only about 4% of all USSR supplies and equipment were from Lend Lease but that percentage was much higher during 1941 and 1942 in comparison to 1943 and on considering the USSR didn't have very much manufacturing during that time period. It seems the Germans were parked over most of it.

You also forget that the Brits sent Toolings and Manufacturing supplies and equipment to get the new factories up and running. In order to make the toolings, supplies and equipment first you have to have a manufacturing base. In 1941 and the first half of 1942 the USSR didn't have any to speak of.

You are spewing Cold War Crap. Since the Cold War ended, Russia has repaid all Lend Lease and has recognized the importance of the Lend Lease even by attending the various Lend Lease Monuments in places like Nome Alaska. Now, I realize that it was taught differently when you went to school but it's taught differently than that now in Russia. Now, it may be swinging back to the same cold war thinking, I don't know. But it was crap then. Sort of like what was taught in Japan for many years and still is.

Your propaganda is out of date, there, Comrade.

The last explanation
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QUESTION1
I'm not interested in your long texts, because:
When you COMPARE a Weapon, cars, food, gasoline ... provided by America for the Soviet Union, then:
- Show the percentage of this Help to the Industry of the Soviet Union
- Show the dynamics of the provision of your assistance
- Show the cost of your help
- Finally, the most important is to show the sources of your information ...

Do not show long texts and ABSOLUTELY NUMBERS of EXPENSES, this is ridiculous and is calculated on blondes ...
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You do not know this answer, but I know ...
In addition, I know where you get the information, because I read in English and can compare Russian and Anglo-Saxon information ...
Answer my first question ...

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QUESTION2
Repeat for the 4th time, but you pretend that you do not notice

1. I am an American citizen
2. I run for President of the United States
3. I promise that when I become the President of the United States, then:
- Alaska will be returned to Russia
- Texas will gain independence
- Lakota Indians will create their State
Information campaigns sponsored by Russia will operate in the US ...

Can I run for President of the United States?

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QUESTION3
If you answer "NO" to the second question, then why:
1. I am a Russian citizen
2. I run for President of Russia
3. I promise that when I become the President of Russia, then:
- Crimea will be returned to Ukraine
- Ukraine will join NATO
- Information companies sponsored by America will operate on the territory of Russia ..
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IN RUSSIA - IT IS PERMITTED FOR THE CANDIDATE FOR THE PRESIDENTS !!!!!!
Then, Answer the 3rd question ...
Where is more democracy?
In America or Russia?

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I expect only 3 clear and candid answers ...
You will fade and curl, then the conversation with you will be over

 

[cnm]

Correction: In the Atlantic, not the Pacific

I assumed that.