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WH Thinks It's ABOVE THE LAW?
- Thread starter WillowTree
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OohPooPahDoo
Gold Member
White House Misses Deadline for Solyndra Subpoena
The White House on Thursday missed the noon deadline for responding to the Republican-approved subpoena issued last week demanding the White House turn over "all documents" pertaining to the Solyndra loan guarantee.
But while White House aides earlier told Fox News there are no plans to produce more documents on the bankrupt solar panel firm until Republicans agree to narrow the scope of their request, House Republicans issued a statement saying they expect some response from the White House by the end of the day.
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
White House spokesman Eric Schultz noted Thursday that the administration has produced more than 85,000 pages of documents to date, including 20,000 pages the day before the vote on the subpoena
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
If the WH had nothing to do with the Solyndra debacle then why would they possess 85 thousand pages of documents???? to date?????
The executive's power to ignore Congressional subpoena is called "Executive Privilege", BTW - and that was established in 2006.
Fucking hypocrites. Or short memories. Or maybe you're just ignorant, who knows?
WillowTree
Diamond Member
- Sep 15, 2008
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White House Misses Deadline for Solyndra Subpoena
The White House on Thursday missed the noon deadline for responding to the Republican-approved subpoena issued last week demanding the White House turn over "all documents" pertaining to the Solyndra loan guarantee.
But while White House aides earlier told Fox News there are no plans to produce more documents on the bankrupt solar panel firm until Republicans agree to narrow the scope of their request, House Republicans issued a statement saying they expect some response from the White House by the end of the day.
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
White House spokesman Eric Schultz noted Thursday that the administration has produced more than 85,000 pages of documents to date, including 20,000 pages the day before the vote on the subpoena
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
If the WH had nothing to do with the Solyndra debacle then why would they possess 85 thousand pages of documents???? to date?????
The executive's power to ignore Congressional subpoena is called "Executive Privilege", BTW - and that was established in 2006.
Fucking hypocrites. Or short memories. Or maybe you're just ignorant, who knows?
what's he hiding from? doyathink?
OohPooPahDoo
Gold Member
White House Misses Deadline for Solyndra Subpoena
The White House on Thursday missed the noon deadline for responding to the Republican-approved subpoena issued last week demanding the White House turn over "all documents" pertaining to the Solyndra loan guarantee.
But while White House aides earlier told Fox News there are no plans to produce more documents on the bankrupt solar panel firm until Republicans agree to narrow the scope of their request, House Republicans issued a statement saying they expect some response from the White House by the end of the day.
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
White House spokesman Eric Schultz noted Thursday that the administration has produced more than 85,000 pages of documents to date, including 20,000 pages the day before the vote on the subpoena
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
If the WH had nothing to do with the Solyndra debacle then why would they possess 85 thousand pages of documents???? to date?????
The executive's power to ignore Congressional subpoena is called "Executive Privilege", BTW - and that was established in 2006.
Fucking hypocrites. Or short memories. Or maybe you're just ignorant, who knows?
what's he hiding from? doyathink?
I dunno. What do you think the President was hiding from in 2006?
Where in the Constitution is Congress granted unilateral power to compel the President to turn over any document they ask for? I'm having trouble finding where the Constitution says that.
WillowTree
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- Sep 15, 2008
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The executive's power to ignore Congressional subpoena is called "Executive Privilege", BTW - and that was established in 2006.
Fucking hypocrites. Or short memories. Or maybe you're just ignorant, who knows?
what's he hiding from? doyathink?
I dunno. What do you think the President was hiding from in 2006?
Where in the Constitution is Congress granted unilateral power to compel the President to turn over any document they ask for? I'm having trouble finding where the Constitution says that.
let's deal with the here and the now. I know how you little rats like to deflect,, the question is what is obama doing with 85 thousand pages of documents and why does he wish to hide them?
White House Misses Deadline for Solyndra Subpoena
The White House on Thursday missed the noon deadline for responding to the Republican-approved subpoena issued last week demanding the White House turn over "all documents" pertaining to the Solyndra loan guarantee.
But while White House aides earlier told Fox News there are no plans to produce more documents on the bankrupt solar panel firm until Republicans agree to narrow the scope of their request, House Republicans issued a statement saying they expect some response from the White House by the end of the day.
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
White House spokesman Eric Schultz noted Thursday that the administration has produced more than 85,000 pages of documents to date, including 20,000 pages the day before the vote on the subpoena
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
If the WH had nothing to do with the Solyndra debacle then why would they possess 85 thousand pages of documents???? to date?????
Nixon thought he was above the law as well. The only thing that saved his ass from impeachment was resigning. WE should be so lucky.
OohPooPahDoo
Gold Member
what's he hiding from? doyathink?
I dunno. What do you think the President was hiding from in 2006?
Where in the Constitution is Congress granted unilateral power to compel the President to turn over any document they ask for? I'm having trouble finding where the Constitution says that.
let's deal with the here and the now. I know how you little rats like to deflect,, the question is what is obama doing with 85 thousand pages of documents and why does he wish to hide them?
Where in the Constitution is Congress granted unilateral power to compel the President to turn over any document they ask for?
Steelplate
Bluesman
thanks for the read...good stuff
And this has nothing to do with a President i like or dont like.
This has to do with my rights as a law abiding tax payer.
And executive privelage is outlined to cover ONLY items of national security, foreign relations and military affairs....for obvious reasons..
But to apply iot to this?
It smells very fishy. What does the WH have to hide? They made a bad investment. Big deal. What are they concerned about coming out in regard to this?
C'mon... take off the Republican hat for a second....This Administration has been through the political wringer since even before he took office. Birthers, Truthers, Tea Party exaggerations and sometimes out and out lies.. Killing Grandma... I mean... Just look through the pages of this message board, and EVERY DAY, there's something written or broadcast by someone to something new this poor fucker has done wrong.
Doesn't THAT seem fishy to you? or only the executive privilege?
that's rich ain't it? coming from a democrat? Who made an video depicting Paul Ryan pushing Grandma in a wheelchair off a cliff? Who was that again? Whatyasay? We can't hear ewe! cry us a fucking river whydonchya?
Not to sound like child... which you most certainly do already... But....You did it first, and it certainly wasn't in a satirical Political Ad.... it was all over the place. So while I will admit that the Ryan Ad was over the top(and I said so at the time too), the history of your Tea Party and Neo-Ultraconservatism's attacks eclipse anything I've seen from the left.
Muslim Socialist Marxist Kenyan Nazi Manchurian Candidate AntiChrist Are just SOME of the things I have heard from Right Wingers and the Right Wing Media.
To sit there and say that this investigation is in no way just another attack, and that Conservatives are above that behavior is ignorant at best and an act of collusion at worst.
To put it in Willow Speak... either your a dumbass, or you just hate the fucking guy so much that you are all for any and all methods to try to make him look bad.
Now... Much like the Herman Cain thing... I am fine with all information coming out in the open and find out for sure what the deal is.
I mean.. I WANT TO KNOW if Herman Cain harassed those women, and if true... I wouldn't want him as my leader. I also WANT TO KNOW what's going on. In my mind, I think it's just more of the same dirty pool that the "New Age" GOP has been playing all along.... But that's the type of attitude one takes when it's been done over and over again.
Wouldn't it be something that Obama claimed Executive Privilege, knowing that there's nothing damaging in the texts and e-mails, just to have the Crazy fucks in the House go off the deep end...... AGAIN....then in a feigned display of exasperation.... allows them access to them and makes them look like the fools they are.... AGAIN... just like the birth certificate idiocy.
Man... that would make baby Jesus smile....and me too.
I dunno. What do you think the President was hiding from in 2006?
Where in the Constitution is Congress granted unilateral power to compel the President to turn over any document they ask for? I'm having trouble finding where the Constitution says that.
let's deal with the here and the now. I know how you little rats like to deflect,, the question is what is obama doing with 85 thousand pages of documents and why does he wish to hide them?
Where in the Constitution is Congress granted unilateral power to compel the President to turn over any document they ask for?
If Congress has not power to have the president to do something then you no longer have checks and balances
White House Misses Deadline for Solyndra Subpoena
The White House on Thursday missed the noon deadline for responding to the Republican-approved subpoena issued last week demanding the White House turn over "all documents" pertaining to the Solyndra loan guarantee.
But while White House aides earlier told Fox News there are no plans to produce more documents on the bankrupt solar panel firm until Republicans agree to narrow the scope of their request, House Republicans issued a statement saying they expect some response from the White House by the end of the day.
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
White House spokesman Eric Schultz noted Thursday that the administration has produced more than 85,000 pages of documents to date, including 20,000 pages the day before the vote on the subpoena
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
If the WH had nothing to do with the Solyndra debacle then why would they possess 85 thousand pages of documents???? to date?????
Nixon thought he was above the law as well. The only thing that saved his ass from impeachment was resigning. WE should be so lucky.
Yep Nixon was a crook.
Steelplate
Bluesman
White House Misses Deadline for Solyndra Subpoena
The White House on Thursday missed the noon deadline for responding to the Republican-approved subpoena issued last week demanding the White House turn over "all documents" pertaining to the Solyndra loan guarantee.
But while White House aides earlier told Fox News there are no plans to produce more documents on the bankrupt solar panel firm until Republicans agree to narrow the scope of their request, House Republicans issued a statement saying they expect some response from the White House by the end of the day.
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
White House spokesman Eric Schultz noted Thursday that the administration has produced more than 85,000 pages of documents to date, including 20,000 pages the day before the vote on the subpoena
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
If the WH had nothing to do with the Solyndra debacle then why would they possess 85 thousand pages of documents???? to date?????
The executive's power to ignore Congressional subpoena is called "Executive Privilege", BTW - and that was established in 2006.
Fucking hypocrites. Or short memories. Or maybe you're just ignorant, who knows?
Actually, Executive Privilege goes back to 1796, first instituted by George Washington himself, although it didn't have a name back then.
I dunno. What do you think the President was hiding from in 2006?
Where in the Constitution is Congress granted unilateral power to compel the President to turn over any document they ask for? I'm having trouble finding where the Constitution says that.
let's deal with the here and the now. I know how you little rats like to deflect,, the question is what is obama doing with 85 thousand pages of documents and why does he wish to hide them?
Where in the Constitution is Congress granted unilateral power to compel the President to turn over any document they ask for?
Article 1 of the constitution...
And don't cite excutive privilege...that power only goes so far as Nixon Found out...
In the United States government, executive privilege is the power claimed by the President of the United States and other members of the executive branch to resist certain subpoenas and other interventions by the legislative and judicial branches of government. The concept of executive privilege is not mentioned explicitly in the United States Constitution, but the Supreme Court of the United States ruled it to be an element of the separation of powers doctrine, and/or derived from the supremacy of executive branch in its own area of Constitutional activity.[1]
The Supreme Court confirmed the legitimacy of this doctrine in United States v. Nixon, but only to the extent of confirming that there is a qualified privilege. Once invoked, a presumption of privilege is established, requiring the Prosecutor to make a "sufficient showing" that the "Presidential material" is "essential to the justice of the case."(418 U.S. at 713-14). Chief Justice Burger further stated that executive privilege would most effectively apply when the oversight of the executive would impair that branch's national security concerns.
Source
The Congress does have power Under Article 1, as they control the purse strings...and this is true since they are trying to account for monies distributed from the treasury to ascertain IF it was lawful...
They could be trying to see if what he has been doing might fall under Article II Section 4.
White House Misses Deadline for Solyndra Subpoena
The White House on Thursday missed the noon deadline for responding to the Republican-approved subpoena issued last week demanding the White House turn over "all documents" pertaining to the Solyndra loan guarantee.
But while White House aides earlier told Fox News there are no plans to produce more documents on the bankrupt solar panel firm until Republicans agree to narrow the scope of their request, House Republicans issued a statement saying they expect some response from the White House by the end of the day.
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
White House spokesman Eric Schultz noted Thursday that the administration has produced more than 85,000 pages of documents to date, including 20,000 pages the day before the vote on the subpoena
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
If the WH had nothing to do with the Solyndra debacle then why would they possess 85 thousand pages of documents???? to date?????
Maybe they can give us some answers on fast and furious while we are at it?....
This from an administration that was supposed to be so transparent...
Obama already stated that he knew about it before the date Holder said HE heard about it...White House Misses Deadline for Solyndra Subpoena
The White House on Thursday missed the noon deadline for responding to the Republican-approved subpoena issued last week demanding the White House turn over "all documents" pertaining to the Solyndra loan guarantee.
But while White House aides earlier told Fox News there are no plans to produce more documents on the bankrupt solar panel firm until Republicans agree to narrow the scope of their request, House Republicans issued a statement saying they expect some response from the White House by the end of the day.
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
White House spokesman Eric Schultz noted Thursday that the administration has produced more than 85,000 pages of documents to date, including 20,000 pages the day before the vote on the subpoena
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
If the WH had nothing to do with the Solyndra debacle then why would they possess 85 thousand pages of documents???? to date?????
Maybe they can give us some answers on fast and furious while we are at it?....
This from an administration that was supposed to be so transparent...
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXflvUH_cHE]Obama Spoke About "Fast & Furious" Before Holder Claimed He Knew - YouTube[/ame]
White House Misses Deadline for Solyndra Subpoena
The White House on Thursday missed the noon deadline for responding to the Republican-approved subpoena issued last week demanding the White House turn over "all documents" pertaining to the Solyndra loan guarantee.
But while White House aides earlier told Fox News there are no plans to produce more documents on the bankrupt solar panel firm until Republicans agree to narrow the scope of their request, House Republicans issued a statement saying they expect some response from the White House by the end of the day.
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
White House spokesman Eric Schultz noted Thursday that the administration has produced more than 85,000 pages of documents to date, including 20,000 pages the day before the vote on the subpoena
Read more: White House Misses Deadline For Solyndra Subpoena | Fox News
If the WH had nothing to do with the Solyndra debacle then why would they possess 85 thousand pages of documents???? to date?????
Maybe they can give us some answers on fast and furious while we are at it?....
This from an administration that was supposed to be so transparent...
What you will hear is Damage Control
Solyndra files, fast and furious, birth certificate, fraudulent SSn's... hell obama does not give a FLYING FUCK about what people want to know, or the law. He'll just stone wall, cover up, lie and forge his way around it, and the liberal lame stream media will give him a total pass.
yep direct hit.
Yep same as with the previous administration.
That admin also promised transparency.
Ernie S.
Diamond Member
the WH is not denying there are other documents related to the situation.
They claimed executive privelage.
That was the smoking gun.
Why do you feel the need to spin the truth?
Curious....
Do you not care to fidn out if the WH did, in fact, make this loan knowing it was a very risky venture?
Furthermore...are you not at all curious to know as to why the taxpayer, for the first time in history was lowered to a second position on the assets?
as far as the loan... Whatever.... I don't give a shit. We need Green technology and there are going to be risks, failures and setbacks before we see the final rewards.
As to the second part... I've seen you say that over and over again. Explain to me what you mean. For the first time in history???? Really? You want to go there when the CEO's on Wall Street got their overblown bonuses for running their businesses into the ground and the taxpayers are STILL losing their homes? How soon we forget.
and as for risks failures, etc...
I agree.
However...if you were going to invest a large sum of money...and you reviewed the papaerwork...and all indications are that the company was going out of business within a year....and other analysts told you the same thing...
Would you still invest the money or would you look for a better "green technology" investment?
If I was a 'mainstream African-American who was articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, a storybook man,' And I figured the risky company would funnel some of the half trillion back into my reelection campaign, what the hell! The ends justify the means, you know.
as far as the loan... Whatever.... I don't give a shit. We need Green technology and there are going to be risks, failures and setbacks before we see the final rewards.
As to the second part... I've seen you say that over and over again. Explain to me what you mean. For the first time in history???? Really? You want to go there when the CEO's on Wall Street got their overblown bonuses for running their businesses into the ground and the taxpayers are STILL losing their homes? How soon we forget.
and as for risks failures, etc...
I agree.
However...if you were going to invest a large sum of money...and you reviewed the papaerwork...and all indications are that the company was going out of business within a year....and other analysts told you the same thing...
Would you still invest the money or would you look for a better "green technology" investment?
If I was a 'mainstream African-American who was articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, a storybook man,' And I figured the risky company would funnel some of the half trillion back into my reelection campaign, what the hell! The ends justify the means, you know.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgIFV7jXBFQ]Biden: Obama is first "CLEAN" African American - YouTube[/ame]
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and as for risks failures, etc...
I agree.
However...if you were going to invest a large sum of money...and you reviewed the papaerwork...and all indications are that the company was going out of business within a year....and other analysts told you the same thing...
Would you still invest the money or would you look for a better "green technology" investment?
If I was a 'mainstream African-American who was articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, a storybook man,' And I figured the risky company would funnel some of the half trillion back into my reelection campaign, what the hell! The ends justify the means, you know.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgIFV7jXBFQ]Biden: Obama is first "CLEAN" African American - YouTube[/ame]
And just think, not long ago, he'd have been getting Biden a cup of coffee.
Ernie S.
Diamond Member
and as for risks failures, etc...
I agree.
However...if you were going to invest a large sum of money...and you reviewed the papaerwork...and all indications are that the company was going out of business within a year....and other analysts told you the same thing...
Would you still invest the money or would you look for a better "green technology" investment?
If I was a 'mainstream African-American who was articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy, I mean, a storybook man,' And I figured the risky company would funnel some of the half trillion back into my reelection campaign, what the hell! The ends justify the means, you know.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgIFV7jXBFQ]Biden: Obama is first "CLEAN" African American - YouTube[/ame]
I took a little liberty with Joe's quote.
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