We're number 37 !!!!!!!!!!!

[PoliticalChic]

Fuck off, ****. How's that for some potty mouth?

And in some way you think that is clever?

Some upbringing.

Clever? No.

I wasn't aiming for that.

I was calling you a **** because you were acting like a ****. So how about you go **** it up elsewhere? This situation has been resolved.

You're welcome BTW.

No, the poster who erred might be obliged to thank you.

An apology, not the correction would have been appropriate...but appropriate isn't something you are regularly in contact with.

But be sure, your use of vile language won't lower my opinion of you. Any further.

 

[Article 15]

And in some way you think that is clever?

Some upbringing.

Clever? No.

I wasn't aiming for that.

I was calling you a **** because you were acting like a ****. So how about you go **** it up elsewhere? This situation has been resolved.

You're welcome BTW.

No, the poster who erred might be obliged to thank you.

An apology, not the correction would have been appropriate...but appropriate isn't something you are regularly in contact with.

But be sure, your use of vile language won't lower my opinion of you. Any further.

Your'e the one who made an ass of herself making 3 straight posts accusing another poster of erroniously attributing a quote to you when it was obvious that all the quotes on the page were fucked up.

You were the one cunting about it. Noboby else. I fixed your problem.

Now piss off.

 

[Dr Grump]

I see, you have taken post #109 and erroneously attributed same to me.

You do owe me an apology.

Between me posting it and Article 15 fixing it, it didn't change for me...so I have no idea what you are talking about...

 

[Article 15]

I see, you have taken post #109 and erroneously attributed same to me.

You do owe me an apology.

Between me posting it and Article 15 fixing it, it didn't change for me...so I have no idea what you are talking about...

To be fair, the post you directed at Cecille actually does a damn good job of describing PC, too. It's a wonder she couldn't figure out it wasn't directed at her ....

 

[Dr Grump]

I see, you have taken post #109 and erroneously attributed same to me.

You do owe me an apology.

Between me posting it and Article 15 fixing it, it didn't change for me...so I have no idea what you are talking about...

To be fair, the post you directed at Cecille actually does a damn good job of describing PC, too. It's a wonder she couldn't figure out it wasn't directed at her ....

Hmmm...I actually find PC not as acerbic, and does have a sense of humour and is intelligent, although sometimes too condescending.

Cecile is condescending all the time, and somehow believes she is the final word on any subject. She's not a debater, she's a totalitarian fucktard...

 

[Old Rocks]

Real rockin' music!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgOl3cETb4

Unbelievable. We seem to go through this outright lie every few months.

It is a simple concept. There are NO uniform reporting procedures, each Country is free to report what it wants based on what it determines is appropriate.

Example...

Live births. The US reports every birth that occurs that the infant is alive ON BIRTH. No matter the viability of keeping said infant alive. Other Countries do not. Some have a waiting period during which if the infant dies, it is NOT considered to have been a live birth. Each individual Country determines how it will determine what it reports and there are NO uniform procedures.

This means trying to compare countries across the world is a waste of time.

Sarge, as a person with socialized medicine, it is very safe for you to wish that others not have it.

No, when France and Japan have a much higher longevity, that means that they are doing something right.

When a country like Canada has almost exactly the same health statics as we do, then switchs to socialized medicine, and within 30 years, has far better stats than we do in longevity and early childhood mortality, I would say that that is proof that they did the smart thing in adapting their system. Especially when their system costs less per capita, and they cover everybody.

 

[Toronado3800]

I'm condescending too!

It is amazing how upset folks get. These types of discussions would start fights on the street corner. And that would be good because even the biggest baddest dudes get whacked upside the head with a stick every soo often and then learn how to discuss things with others.

There, I was condescending!

 

[Cecilie1200]

You do realise that you come across as an arrogant tosspot in every post, which is why most people ignore your blather.

Your self-aggrandizing, self-promotion as the be-all and end-all of any subject might work in the trailer park, but on here you seem nothing but a vacuous, busy-body who knows fuck-all, while trying to come across as the Grand Mufti of all subjects.

Pull your head and start posting to people with respect you loser....

If you are stating that that post is my language, my post, you are either in error or outright lying.

While I try to avoid the term 'lie,' this post is you are attributing it to me, is a fabricated slander.

You should apologize.
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I believe he was talking to me. The problem is that HE is self-aggrandizing when he imagines that I consider him intelligent enough to not have on ignore. He is mistaken on that score.

I always find it amusing, though, when someone I consider beneath contempt imagines that he's going to intimidate me with the threat that I might not have HIS admiration. Oh, noes! Whatever shall I do?!

 

[rdean]

#37? Republicans feel thatis way too high.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Most Cancer Survival Rates in USA Better Than Europe and Canada.
Most Cancer Survival Rates in USA Better Than Europe and Canada » Secondhand Smoke | A First Things Blog

Death from cancer by country. Definition, graph and map.

Heart disease deaths statistics - countries compared - NationMaster

I don't think with real numbers reported instead of whatever WHo wants to use that the USA could be #37 when the 2 biggest death risks we are at 9 and 13.

 

[Old Rocks]

Very nice. But we still lag most industrial nations in longevity. And Cancer and Heart Disease are not the only killers.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Libruls say the us health care system sucks, right up to the time they get sick, then they're pushing old ladies and illegals out of the way to be seen by a US doctor

 

[Dr Grump]

I believe he was talking to me. The problem is that HE is self-aggrandizing when he imagines that I consider him intelligent enough to not have on ignore. He is mistaken on that score.

I always find it amusing, though, when someone I consider beneath contempt imagines that he's going to intimidate me with the threat that I might not have HIS admiration. Oh, noes! Whatever shall I do?!

Oh, I know you have me on ignore...this was more for the other folk on the board

Yeah, I'm really self-aggrandizing (rolls eyes)...get your own lines, Fraud....

I rarely post to you, but when you start polluting threads I'm on, I dunno, just have to say something I guess...

....I was not trying to threaten you at all, and why the fuck would I want a piece of trailer trash like yourself to have my admiration? There is no sense of admiration in what I posted to you, therefore I don't covet yours. Just letting you know vicariously how full of shit you are...

As for being beneath contempt...well, at least you and I have ONE thing in common....

 

[SFC Ollie]

Very nice. But we still lag most industrial nations in longevity. And Cancer and Heart Disease are not the only killers.

No but they are the biggest killers. And with the 9 and 13 ratings there.................Think about it.

 

[jillian]

I believe he was talking to me. The problem is that HE is self-aggrandizing when he imagines that I consider him intelligent enough to not have on ignore. He is mistaken on that score.

I always find it amusing, though, when someone I consider beneath contempt imagines that he's going to intimidate me with the threat that I might not have HIS admiration. Oh, noes! Whatever shall I do?!

Oh, I know you have me on ignore...this was more for the other folk on the board

Yeah, I'm really self-aggrandizing (rolls eyes)...get your own lines, Fraud....

I rarely post to you, but when you start polluting threads I'm on, I dunno, just have to say something I guess...

....I was not trying to threaten you at all, and why the fuck would I want a piece of trailer trash like yourself to have my admiration? There is no sense of admiration in what I posted to you, therefore I don't covet yours. Just letting you know vicariously how full of shit you are...

As for being beneath contempt...well, at least you and I have ONE thing in common....

 

[Dr Grump]

Most Cancer Survival Rates in USA Better Than Europe and Canada.
Most Cancer Survival Rates in USA Better Than Europe and Canada » Secondhand Smoke | A First Things Blog

Death from cancer by country. Definition, graph and map.

Heart disease deaths statistics - countries compared - NationMaster

I don't think with real numbers reported instead of whatever WHo wants to use that the USA could be #37 when the 2 biggest death risks we are at 9 and 13.

Interesting that on the Death From Cancer by country six of the countries, that have better rates are European, and are heavily socialised....just sayin'....

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Most Cancer Survival Rates in USA Better Than Europe and Canada.
Most Cancer Survival Rates in USA Better Than Europe and Canada » Secondhand Smoke | A First Things Blog

Death from cancer by country. Definition, graph and map.

Heart disease deaths statistics - countries compared - NationMaster

I don't think with real numbers reported instead of whatever WHo wants to use that the USA could be #37 when the 2 biggest death risks we are at 9 and 13.

Interesting that on the Death From Cancer by country six of the countries that have better rates are European, and heavily socialised....just sayin'....

Which of those countries did Ted Kennedy pick for his cancer treatment...just saying.

 

[Dr Grump]

Most Cancer Survival Rates in USA Better Than Europe and Canada.
Most Cancer Survival Rates in USA Better Than Europe and Canada » Secondhand Smoke | A First Things Blog

Death from cancer by country. Definition, graph and map.

Heart disease deaths statistics - countries compared - NationMaster

I don't think with real numbers reported instead of whatever WHo wants to use that the USA could be #37 when the 2 biggest death risks we are at 9 and 13.

That heart disease graph is an interesting one. NZers are high on the list (I think) because we have a very heavy dairy diet - lotsa cheese, milk etc. The Japanese have a very much a seafood based diet. Also, the Czech's and Hungarians smoke a lot, but so do the Japanese and French. Also the French eat a lot of cheese, but drink quite a bit of red wine too...

...would love to look into it more at some stage. Makes interesting reading...

 

[Dr Grump]

Most Cancer Survival Rates in USA Better Than Europe and Canada.
Most Cancer Survival Rates in USA Better Than Europe and Canada » Secondhand Smoke | A First Things Blog

Death from cancer by country. Definition, graph and map.

Heart disease deaths statistics - countries compared - NationMaster

I don't think with real numbers reported instead of whatever WHo wants to use that the USA could be #37 when the 2 biggest death risks we are at 9 and 13.

Interesting that on the Death From Cancer by country six of the countries that have better rates are European, and heavily socialised....just sayin'....

Which of those countries did Ted Kennedy pick for his cancer treatment...just saying.

Like 99 percent of people in the Western World, probably his own. That unusual? Do I need to look up a French, Swedish or British politician who did the same?

IOW, what's your point? People in the Western world use their country's health system? This is surprising to you?

 

[Munin]

there is no "I can't afford it" in Canada. because it's socialized. If socialism works so well in medicine, why don't they implement it in other sectors? Doesn't Medicaid cover X-rays? I'll be back in a while.

You re missing the whole point of a healthcare system: it is supposed to take care of all the people that live in a nation. It s like the US army that is supposed to protect all americans, healthcare should be seen in the same category. A government should protect its people from harm and give them the means to protect themselves, a private healthcare industry does not do this: just like a private army wouldn't do it either.

And if you ve noticed: it is implemented in other sectors (the police, the fire department, justice system, the government itself: politicians have healthcare payed for by the taxpayers, ...)

Why do I always get cold chills every time one of you adolescents blithely trots out the phrase "should be"?

Demonstrate for me, please, the "should be" in healthcare being viewed as similar to the army, as opposed to a commodity similar to, say, food.

because healthcare belongs in the same "primitive human need category" as safety, as far as food is concerned: farmers in the US are being subsidized on a large scale by the government. Why? because it is not so safe to depend to much on foreign sources of food, imagine the price of food being as voilitale as the price of oil or another raw material that is being speculated on. By making sure the US has a large supply, it can prevent that from happening. The same could be done with healthcare, prices go down or up because of the suppy/demand equation => create a large supply side and prices will go down (that is why some liberals fancy state healthcare). Personally I do not believe in government healthcare on its own (because full government control is not the most efficient way to get results), but rather a mixed system that allows "decent" healthcare service (for the whole population) by letting the government pressure the private industry.

In the end healthcare, food (+ water) and the military are the most basic human needs, that is the reason that any civilized country has to take these issues seriously.

And btw I m not an adolescant (and neither are you I guess), maybe my english isn't so good as I wish it to be but that is because it is a foreign language to me (I m a european)).