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The problem was that the people McCarthy tarnished as Communists or Communist sympathizers were not the real spies. Often, the information McCarthy used came from FBI files, which were full of rumor and third-hand accounts.

They weren't real spies? that's news to me. at the very least, they were all members of the Communist party, and they didn't belong in the posts they held. Mccarthy "tarnished" no one.

Several months before he died, I interviewed Robert J. Lamphere who participated in all the FBI’s major spy cases during the McCarthy period.

“McCarthyism did all kinds of harm because he was pushing something that wasn’t so,” Lamphere told me. The VENONA intercepts showed that over several decades, “There were a lot of spies in the government, but not all in the State Department,” Lamphere said.

Which proves exactly nothing.

However, “The problem was that McCarthy lied about his information and figures. He made charges against people that weren’t true. McCarthyism harmed the counterintelligence effort against the Soviet threat because of the revulsion it caused."

Totally wrong. Not a single thing McCarthy said was a lie. Your author is a hack.
 
If you're like me you were subject to the disinformation campaign known as public school. We learned that: the New Deal saved the economy, Joe McCarthy's House unamerican activities committee blacklisted Hollywood actors and Hitler was a right winger

Well the New Deal terrified businessman and was totally responsible for an economy worse that the 7 Biblical lean years, McCarthy was right that Communist spies were subverting US policy and finally the Left has warmly welcome back socialist and gun control advocate Adolf Hitler as their long lost elder brother

When you suffer a head injury that might be a concussion, it's important that you don't go to sleep before seeing a doctor.
 
McCarthy was a drunken demigogue, and should have died much sooner for the good of the nation.

However much the rightwingnuts try to rewrite history, the vast majority of Americans realize the debt we owe to FDR for his work in alleviating the misery of the First Great Republican Depression.

Not surprisingly you handle politics and history like Environmental "Sciences" that is, you're completly ignorant and just parrot back talking points. To wit: Joe McCarthy named people working at the White House and State Department who have since been confirmed as genuine Communist spies. And so far, neither you nor Jake nor any other dimwit has provided the name of a single individual ruined by Joseph McCarthy.

Your analysis of FDR is as wrong as your thought on McCarthy. FDR lead an economy worse that the 7 Biblical Lean years. Unemployment averaged 20% from his inauguration in 1933 until Hitler conquered France in 1940. How does 7 years of 20% unemployment alleviate misery?

Please keep posting as I enjoy exposing you for the stupid rube you are

That's a bit silly.

Do you know that from WWII thereafter, Reagan had the highest average unemployment rate, at least until Obama? So does that make Reagan the (second) worst President since the Depression?

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Unemployment peaked in 1933 at ~22% and was ~10% by 1940. FDR was over-rated, but using averages distorts what happened.

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I always get a laugh from people who were "C average" students in high school, then later in life, complain that the schools misinformed them because they weren't taught doctoral level knowledge.

You all couldn't have given a shit about these subjects when you were in High School, so don't blame the schools if they couldn't teach you beyond the basics.
 
Hey Frank,

How're those non-existent unconstitutional executive orders coming along?

You know, the ones Obama was going to issue that took away all our guns?


Do you people ever get tired of being wrong?

Many of the orders are extremely general calling for letters to be sent to officials and gun dealers.

The letters are where the enforcement will come down. Changes in government regulations will be laid out and activities that were legal before will be deemed illegal thus going around the legal system and legislature.

You see Obama doesn't want to be directly blamed for the new regulations that have already been written by his former regulation czar Cass Sunstein, who has as of this date gone back to being a professor at Harvard screwing with the minds of our children.

Oh, and Obama is turning the Department of Homeland Security into an ATF operation instead of rooting out terrorists, essentially changing the meaning of homeland defense from National Defense to a police force. You see, Obama considers Americans in some cases to be a greater threat than Muslim terrorists.

texas leftist: Obama's 23 Executive Orders on Guns

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cass_Sunstein

http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

http://www.theobamafile.com/_associates/CassSunstein.htm
 
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So, the government is going to send letters to people telling them that something is illegal, even though it's not?

Which would, in itself, be illegal?

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So, the government is going to send letters to people telling them that something is illegal, even though it's not?

Which would, in itself, be illegal?

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Who's going to stop him. Obama will make sure the the DoJ will bring pressure to bare on anyone who doesn't follow his policies. Any new regulations will also be enforced.

The Obama Administration has given this a great deal of thought over the years. This is not something that Obama drummed up in a month. These policy letters and regulations have been sitting on his desk for months, even years. I told anyone who would listen before the election that Obama's first order of business come the first of the year was to go after private gun ownership.

Obama has even incorporated gun regulations in Obamacare. Because of it's complicated nature gun dealers will start to wonder what the law is anymore. They may have to go to school just to learn all of the new crap and gun laws will become as complex as the income-tax code.
 
If you're like me you were subject to the disinformation campaign known as public school. We learned that: the New Deal saved the economy, Joe McCarthy's House unamerican activities committee blacklisted Hollywood actors and Hitler was a right winger

Well the New Deal terrified businessman and was totally responsible for an economy worse that the 7 Biblical lean years, McCarthy was right that Communist spies were subverting US policy and finally the Left has warmly welcome back socialist and gun control advocate Adolf Hitler as their long lost elder brother

You pretty much instantly lose when you invoke Godwin's Law.
 
President Obama and Amelia Earhart stole a row boat and placed dynamite aboard the Titanic to ensure it sunk when it hit the ice berg in order to subvert American confidence in international travel and give rise to the evil TSA. And any who denies this is a liberal fucktard who hates America.
 
Who's going to stop him. Obama will make sure the the DoJ will bring pressure to bare on anyone who doesn't follow his policies. Any new regulations will also be enforced.

The Obama Administration has given this a great deal of thought over the years. This is not something that Obama drummed up in a month. These policy letters and regulations have been sitting on his desk for months, even years. I told anyone who would listen before the election that Obama's first order of business come the first of the year was to go after private gun ownership.

Obama has even incorporated gun regulations in Obamacare. Because of it's complicated nature gun dealers will start to wonder what the law is anymore. They may have to go to school just to learn all of the new crap and gun laws will become as complex as the income-tax code.

I find the ability you people have to change to a brand new conspiracy theory, whenever the one you just had is proven wrong, to be absolutely amazing.

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Who's going to stop him. Obama will make sure the the DoJ will bring pressure to bare on anyone who doesn't follow his policies. Any new regulations will also be enforced.

The Obama Administration has given this a great deal of thought over the years. This is not something that Obama drummed up in a month. These policy letters and regulations have been sitting on his desk for months, even years. I told anyone who would listen before the election that Obama's first order of business come the first of the year was to go after private gun ownership.

Obama has even incorporated gun regulations in Obamacare. Because of it's complicated nature gun dealers will start to wonder what the law is anymore. They may have to go to school just to learn all of the new crap and gun laws will become as complex as the income-tax code.

I find the ability you people have to change to a brand new conspiracy theory, whenever the one you just had is proven wrong, to be absolutely amazing.

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Guess you haven't been keeping up with events. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

Obama often uses lawsuits to get what he wants. The expense of a defense is enough to put a gun-dealership out of business, so they will comply in order to keep their doors open. My own business has been audited twice by Obama's IRS, looking for any laws we might have broken.

Fear is a very effective tool.
 
Guess you haven't been keeping up with events. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

Obama often uses lawsuits to get what he wants. The expense of a defense is enough to put a gun-dealership out of business, so they will comply in order to keep their doors open. My own business has been audited twice by Obama's IRS, looking for any laws we might have broken.

Fear is a very effective tool.

He could have been doing that since day 1 of his presidency. He did not. You know why?

Because he's not the Anti-Christ, you're just insane.

But it really doesn't matter, does it?

You're going to make up some crazy-assed theory no matter what he does, or doesn't, do.

Why I remember when you folks were predicting in 2008, that he was a "Stalinist", that was going to tank the economy into a depression, and then use the ensuing confusion to dissolve Congress and take over the country.

And then he was going to turn Nazi, and apply eugenics to the population by killing all the old, sick and infirm.

But none of that ever happened. Must have been because Glenn Beck stopped him. Right?

Good thing we have Rush Limbaugh around, or Obama would have had his "thugs" gun us all down long ago. Right?

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