Was the Pope "Islamophobic" too?

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    Regensburg Lecture

    Mass street protests were mounted in many Islamic countries, the Majlis-e-Shoora (Pakistani parliament) unanimously called on the Pope to retract "this objectionable statement". The pope maintained that the comment he had quoted did not reflect his own views, and he offered an apology to Muslims.
    The controversial comment originally appeared in the 7th of the 26 Dialogues Held With A Certain Persian, the Worthy Mouterizes, in Anakara of Galatia, written in 1391 as an expression of the views of the Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaiologos, one of the last Christian rulers before the Fall of Constantinople to the Muslim Ottoman Empire, on such issues as forced conversion, holy war, and the relationship between faith and reason. The passage, in the English translation published by the Vatican, is as follows:

    “ Show me just what Muhammad brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached. ”
    The pope had consulted a bilingual critical edition of this dialogue in the original Greek and with French translation.
     
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    Is the Pope a Nazi?
     
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    No. Of course not. Besides Nazis weren't enemies of Islam. You forget that Muslims fought alongside Nazis (Bosnian Nazi armies, the Mufti, etc.) and adopted many of their philosophies which exist today.

    Islamophobe (is-slahm-o-fohb) - A non-Muslim who knows more than they are supposed to know about Islam.

    Islamophobia is a fear of losing life or liberty to Islamic rule merely because the laws, sacred texts, and traditional practices of Islam demand the submission of culture, politics, religion and all social expression.* It tends to afflict those most familiar with the religion, while sparing the more gullible.

    Unlike Infidelophobia (Quranically-inspired hatred for non-Muslims), Islamophobia doesn't involve dead bodies, but rather bruised Muslim feelings, which, according to the teachings of the faith, are far more important than the lives of infidels.

    In Muhammad's day, Islamophobia was treated with a practice known as beheading.* Since this is now impractical outside of the Muslim world, the condition is best addressed by means of prevention.* Such preventive measures include willful ignorance - which is best assisted with a strong dose of taqiyya.

    The fact is that when Islam checks in, a lot of folks wind up checking out... permanently.* Therefore Islamophobes are a pretty broad group.

    Islamophobes include:

    Hindus, Christians, and Jews who don’t want to be forced into a political system that treats them as third-class citizens.* (Islamic teaching)
    Atheists who want the freedom to live openly as such and publicly challenge religious orthodoxy.* (Islamic teaching)

    Women who don’t want to be draped in black bags.* (Islamic teaching)

    Heterosexual males who don’t want to see women draped in black bags.* (Islamic teaching)

    Drinkers (this one's important).* (Islamic teaching)

    Artists (not quite as important). (Islamic teaching)

    Historians who don’t want to see priceless manuscripts and books burned just because they disagree with the Quran.

    Homosexuals who don’t want to be beaten to death.* (Islamic teaching)

    Anyone else who believes that consenting adults should not be killed or tortured over sexual practices.* (Islamic teaching)

    Liberals who don’t believe that culture and moral values should be established by a state-sponsored religion.* (Get past The Religion Barrier)

    Dog lovers.* (Islamic teaching).

    Animal Rights activists and anyone else who is opposed to the cruel and unethical treatment of animals.* (Islamic teaching)

    Mothers who don’t want their daughters killed over a man’s “honor.”* (Islamic teaching)

    Females who want to keep their clitoris.* (Islamic teaching)

    Intellectuals who value freedom of conscience and public dissent.* (Islamic teaching)

    Anyone believing that the value of a person's life is not determined by their religious beliefs.* (Islamic teaching)

    Feminists who believe that women should not be made subordinate to men by a religion which openly insists that females are the intellectual and legal inferior of males.* (Islamic teaching)

    Anyone else who objects to a religion in which a woman’s identity is defined by her relationship to a man.* (Islamic teaching)

    The left-handed (Islamic teaching).

    Conservatives who believe in preserving the Western heritage responsible for the civil freedom, political liberty and economic success which has attracted the flood of immigrants from Muslim nations, where such values are conspicuously lacking.* (Islamic teaching)

    Muslims who would like the freedom to leave Islam.* (Islamic teaching)*
     
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    No.
     
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    No, he wasn't Islamophobic.
     
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    And Muslims, in order to prove the Pope's words wrong, went on a violent rampage torching cities across Europe, killing Christians around the world, burning Churches, and murdering and terrorising totally innocent people. Not to mention death threats against the Pope. That's how you show how peaceful your religion is!
     
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    Another poster calls you "bullshit seeker", I'm beginning to totally agree with him. It appears Islamo-terrorist worshippers will go to all extremes to lie and misrepresent, in the name of Islamic facism. What you posted was a fake photo of the Pope in Church, stretching BOTH arms out while blessing. Hardly a Nazi salute! What a shameless LIAR!

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    OUCH! That musta hurt! There goes the credibility of another IslamoNazi worshipper who calls himself "truth seeker". FAR FROM IT!
     
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