was Rock Hudson a fraud?

[harmonica]

.....another fraud was Richard Chamberlain that played in TV series with him romancing females in Centennial, Shogun and Thornbirds

 

[harmonica]

R

thats a real name?....and he was gay?...

Marion Morrison?

There was another star from the fifties like Rock.

Liberace.

Were the fifties less uptight than sixty years hence?

The 50's were way more uptight than 60's plus people were naive about homosexuality. There were effeminate men and masculine women but homosexuals were mentally and/or physically impaired lowlifes that haunted restrooms and ended up in mental institutions or jails. They were no one's son, father, or brother. They didn't exist in good families.

Liberace was nothing like Rock Hudson. Liberace's trademark was his effeminacy and Rock Hudson's trademark was his masculinity. Liberace was a favorite of middle aged and older women while Rock Hudson was the heartthrob of young women.

Take at look at Liberace in his 50's, TV show. This guy was so gay. Yet his fans completely dismissed his sexuality. However, like Hudson he never admitted that he was gay and would arrange to be seen with young beautiful women to counteract any rumors of his homosexuality.

Rock Hudson worked within the studio system. There were, in fact other closeted Gay men and women in the exact same circumstance as Rock Hudson was in. His sexuality did not influence his work.y to live a life

It makes no sense to erase the work he produced and the good will he left behind with facts that were of no consequence at the time?

It's strange that what he feared most in his life, the exposure of his true sexuality became his greatest accomplishment in his death. He brought Aids into the headlines and fund raising drives raised millions for Aids research.

Rock Hudson's burden in his time was a burden imposed on him by society. The disdain many people felt for homosexuality, and unfortunately still do, served an ignoble purpose.

Living a shadow life is no way to live a fulfilling life.

...but it seems he lied for $$$$$$$$, and maybe also for the disdain

 

[Nosmo King]

R

Marion Morrison?

There was another star from the fifties like Rock.

Liberace.

Were the fifties less uptight than sixty years hence?

The 50's were way more uptight than 60's plus people were naive about homosexuality. There were effeminate men and masculine women but homosexuals were mentally and/or physically impaired lowlifes that haunted restrooms and ended up in mental institutions or jails. They were no one's son, father, or brother. They didn't exist in good families.

Liberace was nothing like Rock Hudson. Liberace's trademark was his effeminacy and Rock Hudson's trademark was his masculinity. Liberace was a favorite of middle aged and older women while Rock Hudson was the heartthrob of young women.

Take at look at Liberace in his 50's, TV show. This guy was so gay. Yet his fans completely dismissed his sexuality. However, like Hudson he never admitted that he was gay and would arrange to be seen with young beautiful women to counteract any rumors of his homosexuality.

Rock Hudson worked within the studio system. There were, in fact other closeted Gay men and women in the exact same circumstance as Rock Hudson was in. His sexuality did not influence his work.y to live a life

It makes no sense to erase the work he produced and the good will he left behind with facts that were of no consequence at the time?

It's strange that what he feared most in his life, the exposure of his true sexuality became his greatest accomplishment in his death. He brought Aids into the headlines and fund raising drives raised millions for Aids research.

Rock Hudson's burden in his time was a burden imposed on him by society. The disdain many people felt for homosexuality, and unfortunately still do, served an ignoble purpose.

Living a shadow life is no way to live a fulfilling life.

...but it seems he lied for $$$$$$$$, and maybe also for the disdain

Have you ever wondered if a Faustian bargain ever worked out?

 

[Flopper]

.....another fraud was Richard Chamberlain that played in TV series with him romancing females in Centennial, Shogun and Thornbirds

If we are to think that an actor is a fraud who plays roles that don't reflect their true self, then all actors are frauds because that is what acting is, playing a role. In fact, the very best actors are capable of playing roles that are nothing like their true self.

I remember as a child meeting Boris Karloff, the actor who made the Frankenstein movies and other monster movies. In real life he was not particular large nor was he the least bit scary. In fact, he was a really nice person. My mother described him as a prince and a gentlemen.

 

[Flopper]

R

Marion Morrison?

There was another star from the fifties like Rock.

Liberace.

Were the fifties less uptight than sixty years hence?

The 50's were way more uptight than 60's plus people were naive about homosexuality. There were effeminate men and masculine women but homosexuals were mentally and/or physically impaired lowlifes that haunted restrooms and ended up in mental institutions or jails. They were no one's son, father, or brother. They didn't exist in good families.

Liberace was nothing like Rock Hudson. Liberace's trademark was his effeminacy and Rock Hudson's trademark was his masculinity. Liberace was a favorite of middle aged and older women while Rock Hudson was the heartthrob of young women.

Take at look at Liberace in his 50's, TV show. This guy was so gay. Yet his fans completely dismissed his sexuality. However, like Hudson he never admitted that he was gay and would arrange to be seen with young beautiful women to counteract any rumors of his homosexuality.

Rock Hudson worked within the studio system. There were, in fact other closeted Gay men and women in the exact same circumstance as Rock Hudson was in. His sexuality did not influence his work.y to live a life

It makes no sense to erase the work he produced and the good will he left behind with facts that were of no consequence at the time?

It's strange that what he feared most in his life, the exposure of his true sexuality became his greatest accomplishment in his death. He brought Aids into the headlines and fund raising drives raised millions for Aids research.

Rock Hudson's burden in his time was a burden imposed on him by society. The disdain many people felt for homosexuality, and unfortunately still do, served an ignoble purpose.

Living a shadow life is no way to live a fulfilling life.

...but it seems he lied for $$$$$$$$, and maybe also for the disdain

In the mid 20th century, the choice for Hudson was between a successful career, wealth, and fame or no career at all and being ostracized by society. It was really no choice at all.

 

[Lysistrata]

Been through this. When is pence going to come out of the closet? When is this issue going to be resolved when the "president," who claims to be a heterosexual, will not own up to his promiscuity, his voiced fear of contracting an STD (his personal "Viet Nam,", his admission of sexual assault? The bibble-pounders love him. Which of his three marriages was the most "sacred"?

 

[skye]

R

The 50's were way more uptight than 60's plus people were naive about homosexuality. There were effeminate men and masculine women but homosexuals were mentally and/or physically impaired lowlifes that haunted restrooms and ended up in mental institutions or jails. They were no one's son, father, or brother. They didn't exist in good families.

Liberace was nothing like Rock Hudson. Liberace's trademark was his effeminacy and Rock Hudson's trademark was his masculinity. Liberace was a favorite of middle aged and older women while Rock Hudson was the heartthrob of young women.

Take at look at Liberace in his 50's, TV show. This guy was so gay. Yet his fans completely dismissed his sexuality. However, like Hudson he never admitted that he was gay and would arrange to be seen with young beautiful women to counteract any rumors of his homosexuality.

Rock Hudson worked within the studio system. There were, in fact other closeted Gay men and women in the exact same circumstance as Rock Hudson was in. His sexuality did not influence his work.y to live a life

It makes no sense to erase the work he produced and the good will he left behind with facts that were of no consequence at the time?

It's strange that what he feared most in his life, the exposure of his true sexuality became his greatest accomplishment in his death. He brought Aids into the headlines and fund raising drives raised millions for Aids research.

Rock Hudson's burden in his time was a burden imposed on him by society. The disdain many people felt for homosexuality, and unfortunately still do, served an ignoble purpose.

Living a shadow life is no way to live a fulfilling life.

...but it seems he lied for $$$$$$$$, and maybe also for the disdain

In the mid 20th century, the choice for Hudson was between a successful career, wealth, and fame or no career at all and being ostracized by society. It was really no choice at all.

Gosh! are you Rock Hudson defense lawyer or something ?

Gee it gets tired.

 

[Flopper]

R

Rock Hudson worked within the studio system. There were, in fact other closeted Gay men and women in the exact same circumstance as Rock Hudson was in. His sexuality did not influence his work.y to live a life

It makes no sense to erase the work he produced and the good will he left behind with facts that were of no consequence at the time?

It's strange that what he feared most in his life, the exposure of his true sexuality became his greatest accomplishment in his death. He brought Aids into the headlines and fund raising drives raised millions for Aids research.

Rock Hudson's burden in his time was a burden imposed on him by society. The disdain many people felt for homosexuality, and unfortunately still do, served an ignoble purpose.

Living a shadow life is no way to live a fulfilling life.

...but it seems he lied for $$$$$$$$, and maybe also for the disdain

In the mid 20th century, the choice for Hudson was between a successful career, wealth, and fame or no career at all and being ostracized by society. It was really no choice at all.

Gosh! are you Rock Hudson defense lawyer or something ?

Gee it gets tired.

I'm something but not a defense lawyer.

 

[skye]

R

It's strange that what he feared most in his life, the exposure of his true sexuality became his greatest accomplishment in his death. He brought Aids into the headlines and fund raising drives raised millions for Aids research.

Rock Hudson's burden in his time was a burden imposed on him by society. The disdain many people felt for homosexuality, and unfortunately still do, served an ignoble purpose.

Living a shadow life is no way to live a fulfilling life.

...but it seems he lied for $$$$$$$$, and maybe also for the disdain

In the mid 20th century, the choice for Hudson was between a successful career, wealth, and fame or no career at all and being ostracized by society. It was really no choice at all.

Gosh! are you Rock Hudson defense lawyer or something ?

Gee it gets tired.

I'm something but not a defense lawyer.

then stop defending him.

 

[Flopper]

R
Rock Hudson's burden in his time was a burden imposed on him by society. The disdain many people felt for homosexuality, and unfortunately still do, served an ignoble purpose.

Living a shadow life is no way to live a fulfilling life.

...but it seems he lied for $$$$$$$$, and maybe also for the disdain

In the mid 20th century, the choice for Hudson was between a successful career, wealth, and fame or no career at all and being ostracized by society. It was really no choice at all.

Gosh! are you Rock Hudson defense lawyer or something ?

Gee it gets tired.

I'm something but not a defense lawyer.

then stop defending him.

I'm not defending him because he doesn't need defending. I've just been stating known facts.

 

[dblack]

......Rock did tons of romantic movies .....of course he would not have gotten those parts if everyone knew he was a fruitcake homo

Means he was a great actor

Thus, not a fraud.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Been through this. When is pence going to come out of the closet? When is this issue going to be resolved when the "president," who claims to be a heterosexual, will not own up to his promiscuity, his voiced fear of contracting an STD (his personal "Viet Nam,", his admission of sexual assault? The bibble-pounders love him. Which of his three marriages was the most "sacred"?

The left will never forgive Pence for his fidelity to his wife. Never.

 

[Flopper]

......Rock did tons of romantic movies .....of course he would not have gotten those parts if everyone knew he was a fruitcake homo

Means he was a great actor

Thus, not a fraud.

I agree, great actors don't play themselves or the same character in every film. Some actors such as John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, Walter Brennan, Robert Mitchum play the same character over and over with little variation from film to film. They have huge box office appeal and I personally like their character but that's really not great acting.

Consider Dustin Hoffman, not one of my favorite actors but I believe he is one of the best. He goes from a recent college graduate with no well-defined aim in life, who is seduced by an older woman in "The Graduate" to "Ratso" Rizzo, a con man with a limp who lives off the street in "Midnight Cowboy." Then he played Chief Dan George in "Little Big Man.", Lenny Bruce the fowl mouth stand-up comedian of 50's and 60's in "Lenny", Carl Bernstein in "All the Presidents Men", Michael Dorsey/Dorothy Michaels, an out of work actor who becomes a star as a women in "Tootise", Raymond, the autistic kid in "Rain Man", "Mummbles" in Dick Tracey, Captain Hook in "Hook". Hoffman always went for challenging rolls which resulted in new characters with every film. That's a good actor.

I don't consider Rock Hudson a great actor. Like a lot of Hollywood stars he certainly was a charismatic figure on the screen and he created a handsome, romantic character that fit well into mid-twenty century action adventures and situation comedies. However, his characters never seem to have much depth to them.

 

[Blues Man]

All actors are frauds in that they pretend to be something they are not

 

[Lysistrata]

Been through this. When is pence going to come out of the closet? When is this issue going to be resolved when the "president," who claims to be a heterosexual, will not own up to his promiscuity, his voiced fear of contracting an STD (his personal "Viet Nam,", his admission of sexual assault? The bibble-pounders love him. Which of his three marriages was the most "sacred"?

The left will never forgive Pence for his fidelity to his wife. Never.

It is not a matter of his fidelity to his wife. Everyone is expected to be faithful to their spouses, regardless of their politics. It has been his aggressive actions against other women and LGBTs in society that has made him stand out as a sexual queerdo. He needs therapy just to live a life in American society.

When my father died, the funeral home gave me his wedding ring. I put it right back on my father's finger, as he earned it in 52 years of marriage in which he circulated in society while being faithful to my mother (who preceded him in death). We, his wife and children, knew where he was at all times; he was at work or he was home with us, and his paycheck was given to my mother to administer the funds.

The pig in the Oval Office has been married three times, taken vows three times, perhaps has been given a wedding ring three times. Which is the final time? Which does he consider to be "sacred"?

 

[harmonica]

Been through this. When is pence going to come out of the closet? When is this issue going to be resolved when the "president," who claims to be a heterosexual, will not own up to his promiscuity, his voiced fear of contracting an STD (his personal "Viet Nam,", his admission of sexual assault? The bibble-pounders love him. Which of his three marriages was the most "sacred"?

The left will never forgive Pence for his fidelity to his wife. Never.

It is not a matter of his fidelity to his wife. Everyone is expected to be faithful to their spouses, regardless of their politics. It has been his aggressive actions against other women and LGBTs in society that has made him stand out as a sexual queerdo. He needs therapy just to live a life in American society.

When my father died, the funeral home gave me his wedding ring. I put it right back on my father's finger, as he earned it in 52 years of marriage in which he circulated in society while being faithful to my mother (who preceded him in death). We, his wife and children, knew where he was at all times; he was at work or he was home with us, and his paycheck was given to my mother to administer the funds.

The pig in the Oval Office has been married three times, taken vows three times, perhaps has been given a wedding ring three times. Which is the final time? Which does he consider to be "sacred"?

a lot of humans can't live with each other = divorce
some are so in love/love each other/need each other--then they kill the other
you are living in unreality world

However, about 40 to 50 percent of married couples in the United States divorce.

40 to 50 % !!
it's like eating/drinking/sleeping = HUMAN--NOT evil--NOT bad
Marriage and Divorce

 

[harmonica]

.....another fraud was Richard Chamberlain that played in TV series with him romancing females in Centennial, Shogun and Thornbirds

If we are to think that an actor is a fraud who plays roles that don't reflect their true self, then all actors are frauds because that is what acting is, playing a role. In fact, the very best actors are capable of playing roles that are nothing like their true self.

I remember as a child meeting Boris Karloff, the actor who made the Frankenstein movies and other monster movies. In real life he was not particular large nor was he the least bit scary. In fact, he was a really nice person. My mother described him as a prince and a gentlemen.

wrong wrong ----
.....they would usually not get the hetero romance parts if they came out as gay ----they pretend to be hetero to get the hetero parts = fraud

 

[Lysistrata]

Been through this. When is pence going to come out of the closet? When is this issue going to be resolved when the "president," who claims to be a heterosexual, will not own up to his promiscuity, his voiced fear of contracting an STD (his personal "Viet Nam,", his admission of sexual assault? The bibble-pounders love him. Which of his three marriages was the most "sacred"?

The left will never forgive Pence for his fidelity to his wife. Never.

It is not a matter of his fidelity to his wife. Everyone is expected to be faithful to their spouses, regardless of their politics. It has been his aggressive actions against other women and LGBTs in society that has made him stand out as a sexual queerdo. He needs therapy just to live a life in American society.

When my father died, the funeral home gave me his wedding ring. I put it right back on my father's finger, as he earned it in 52 years of marriage in which he circulated in society while being faithful to my mother (who preceded him in death). We, his wife and children, knew where he was at all times; he was at work or he was home with us, and his paycheck was given to my mother to administer the funds.

The pig in the Oval Office has been married three times, taken vows three times, perhaps has been given a wedding ring three times. Which is the final time? Which does he consider to be "sacred"?

a lot of humans can't live with each other = divorce
some are so in love/love each other/need each other--then they kill the other
you are living in unreality world

However, about 40 to 50 percent of married couples in the United States divorce.

40 to 50 % !!
it's like eating/drinking/sleeping = HUMAN--NOT evil--NOT bad
Marriage and Divorce

Can you clear up your comment. It utterly makes no sense. My parents made a religious commitment to each other in a Catholic ceremony, then they lived it, even though they fought and mentioned getting divorced with me in the back of the car listening. They both knew.

I happened on some YouTube videos regarding ultra-Orthodox Jews seeking to be married, whose customs require them to fast and pray before their wedding day to consider what they are about to do and then each of them must wear white at their wedding. The bride wears white, and the groom, whatever he has done in his life and wears black, must don a white robe to stand at under the wedding chuppah to take his vows.

Turning to Robert Mueller (I am not a Republican nor have I ever joined a political party): he has apparently always supported the Republican Party. But I think that he has taken several oaths, including that of a Marine, and he sticks by them, no matter where they lead. This shows a life lived with integrity and dignity.

You think that I am skipping around, but I'm not. It all leads to the same point. Once you swear, you swear. My father was right.

 

[harmonica]

Been through this. When is pence going to come out of the closet? When is this issue going to be resolved when the "president," who claims to be a heterosexual, will not own up to his promiscuity, his voiced fear of contracting an STD (his personal "Viet Nam,", his admission of sexual assault? The bibble-pounders love him. Which of his three marriages was the most "sacred"?

The left will never forgive Pence for his fidelity to his wife. Never.

It is not a matter of his fidelity to his wife. Everyone is expected to be faithful to their spouses, regardless of their politics. It has been his aggressive actions against other women and LGBTs in society that has made him stand out as a sexual queerdo. He needs therapy just to live a life in American society.

When my father died, the funeral home gave me his wedding ring. I put it right back on my father's finger, as he earned it in 52 years of marriage in which he circulated in society while being faithful to my mother (who preceded him in death). We, his wife and children, knew where he was at all times; he was at work or he was home with us, and his paycheck was given to my mother to administer the funds.

The pig in the Oval Office has been married three times, taken vows three times, perhaps has been given a wedding ring three times. Which is the final time? Which does he consider to be "sacred"?

a lot of humans can't live with each other = divorce
some are so in love/love each other/need each other--then they kill the other
you are living in unreality world

However, about 40 to 50 percent of married couples in the United States divorce.

40 to 50 % !!
it's like eating/drinking/sleeping = HUMAN--NOT evil--NOT bad
Marriage and Divorce

Can you clear up your comment. It utterly makes no sense. My parents made a religious commitment to each other in a Catholic ceremony, then they lived it, even though they fought and mentioned getting divorced with me in the back of the car listening. They both knew.

I happened on some YouTube videos regarding ultra-Orthodox Jews seeking to be married, whose customs require them to fast and pray before their wedding day to consider what they are about to do and then each of them must wear white at their wedding. The bride wears white, and the groom, whatever he has done in his life and wears black, must don a white robe to stand at under the wedding chuppah to take his vows.

Turning to Robert Mueller (I am not a Republican nor have I ever joined a political party): he has apparently always supported the Republican Party. But I think that he has taken several oaths, including that of a Marine, and he sticks by them, no matter where they lead. This shows a life lived with integrity and dignity.

You think that I am skipping around, but I'm not. It all leads to the same point. Once you swear, you swear. My father was right.

hahahahahhahahaha..................???!!!!!??
please do not comment on USMB unless you have graduated from 4th grade or above
you do not understand the stats of 40 - 50 %????!!!!!!!!!???!!!

 

[harmonica]

Been through this. When is pence going to come out of the closet? When is this issue going to be resolved when the "president," who claims to be a heterosexual, will not own up to his promiscuity, his voiced fear of contracting an STD (his personal "Viet Nam,", his admission of sexual assault? The bibble-pounders love him. Which of his three marriages was the most "sacred"?

The left will never forgive Pence for his fidelity to his wife. Never.

It is not a matter of his fidelity to his wife. Everyone is expected to be faithful to their spouses, regardless of their politics. It has been his aggressive actions against other women and LGBTs in society that has made him stand out as a sexual queerdo. He needs therapy just to live a life in American society.

When my father died, the funeral home gave me his wedding ring. I put it right back on my father's finger, as he earned it in 52 years of marriage in which he circulated in society while being faithful to my mother (who preceded him in death). We, his wife and children, knew where he was at all times; he was at work or he was home with us, and his paycheck was given to my mother to administer the funds.

The pig in the Oval Office has been married three times, taken vows three times, perhaps has been given a wedding ring three times. Which is the final time? Which does he consider to be "sacred"?

a lot of humans can't live with each other = divorce
some are so in love/love each other/need each other--then they kill the other
you are living in unreality world

However, about 40 to 50 percent of married couples in the United States divorce.

40 to 50 % !!
it's like eating/drinking/sleeping = HUMAN--NOT evil--NOT bad
Marriage and Divorce

Can you clear up your comment. It utterly makes no sense. My parents made a religious commitment to each other in a Catholic ceremony, then they lived it, even though they fought and mentioned getting divorced with me in the back of the car listening. They both knew.

I happened on some YouTube videos regarding ultra-Orthodox Jews seeking to be married, whose customs require them to fast and pray before their wedding day to consider what they are about to do and then each of them must wear white at their wedding. The bride wears white, and the groom, whatever he has done in his life and wears black, must don a white robe to stand at under the wedding chuppah to take his vows.

Turning to Robert Mueller (I am not a Republican nor have I ever joined a political party): he has apparently always supported the Republican Party. But I think that he has taken several oaths, including that of a Marine, and he sticks by them, no matter where they lead. This shows a life lived with integrity and dignity.

You think that I am skipping around, but I'm not. It all leads to the same point. Once you swear, you swear. My father was right.

ok, I'll let you on to what it is
50% is HALF the population