Walker needs to understand American workers are not enemies

[Wyatt earp]

One bad thing about non union plants like BMW in Greenville South Carolina, I heard it from a bunch of people, they go through temp Agents Now, so a new worker doing The same job is paid $10 bucks less and they have to sign a piece of paper that they are ok with it.

What drives me crazy with these pro union posters is, they would rather have no jobs , then jobs paying below Union wages, don't they get companies provide a local tax base? That's why i hate all these liberal entitlements it promotes lazy people

we live in a global Economie , were not going back to the 1950s

 

[CowboyTed]

Companies that don't want a private union are anti worker companies and should be shunned by consumers. As consumers we have the right to find out what companies are against private unions and quit buying their products. There are ways to fight back against "right to work" policies which are nothing more than a way to avoid paying a decent wage. There were ALOT of private unions that voted for walker three times because he backed them. Now, with right to work, they have been left out in the cold. Wisconsin is on its way to being like Mississippi, land of the low wage and vote against yourself.

Initforme,

I agree to a point. Some companies for go the union route by having high interaction with employees, look at Google and many of the tech companies. Actually in this area we encourage our employees to speak up, give us your great ideas.

Is there something wrong in the Public Sector, Yes and it was exasperated by Walker. GOP mantra is Government is Bad. Then they are elected and they do there best to dismantle Government.
Lets break the news to GOP, YOU ARE SOCIALISTS....
Unless you want full anarchy you are socialists. The only thing at question is how socialist you are, show your balance.

 

[zeke]

One bad thing about non union plants like BMW in Greenville South Carolina, I heard it from a bunch of people, they go through temp Agents Now, so a new worker doing The same job is paid $10 bucks less and they have to sign a piece of paper that they are ok with it

What's so "bad" about it dude? It's the fucking reason why manufacturing moved to SC. Big tax abatements, state paid training for workers and the biggie, the ability to seriously cut their labor rates.


You almost sound like you are bitching abut this little fact you have uncovered. When not to long ago. the ability of companies to put the fucks to workers was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
What is the problem ?


Oh btw, when the UAW was trying to save jobs back in the late 1980ties, they went to a two tiered wage scale that had the new hires payed considerably less than the older employees. Of course those wage concessions meant nothing. All the jobs still left. But the UAW tried. Got the members to go along with it.

I am sure that if you lose your current job and need to be hired elsewhere, you won't mind being paid less than you are now. Right? You are providing a tax base for the area and a cut in your wages would be well worth a job.
Right?

 

[Wyatt earp]

One bad thing about non union plants like BMW in Greenville South Carolina, I heard it from a bunch of people, they go through temp Agents Now, so a new worker doing The same job is paid $10 bucks less and they have to sign a piece of paper that they are ok with it

What's so "bad" about it dude? It's the fucking reason why manufacturing moved to SC. Big tax abatements, state paid training for workers and the biggie, the ability to seriously cut their labor rates.


You almost sound like you are bitching abut this little fact you have uncovered. When not to long ago. the ability of companies to put the fucks to workers was the greatest thing since sliced bread.
What is the problem ?


Oh btw, when the UAW was trying to save jobs back in the late 1980ties, they went to a two tiered wage scale that had the new hires payed considerably less than the older employees. Of course those wage concessions meant nothing. All the jobs still left. But the UAW tried. Got the members to go along with it.

I am sure that if you lose your current job and need to be hired elsewhere, you won't mind being paid less than you are now. Right? You are providing a tax base for the area and a cut in your wages would be well worth a job.
Right?

Yea, I know about what happened with UAW , hey I am an honest person, but BMW is not going anywhere, they are doing a Multimillion dollar expansion in Greenville/Spartanburg

And Don't worry about me , I can still get a job paid more at a first tier plastic company, but Choose not to, the Differance between you and I is, I know benefits and respect outweigh more money and stress it brings.

And I am telling you, I posted this a million times in various political forums on the net.

I would rather work at Walmart then a American style Union again.

I hate them

They Don't care about my skill to the company, they Don't care i am one of their smartest Maintenance men there , they dont care at 49 I can still out work anyone, they don't care about my passion for my job
Unions don't give a duck about workers like me because I am the enemy , I show there workers up.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Some more information ..

At my non union plant we have in 1st shift a maintenance manager , a lead maintenance man (who both love me to death) 6 maintenance guys who respect me, but hate me .

2nd shift has 3 maintenance guys, who all hate me, but won't say it to my face

3rd shift just two now and we are the ones who get the machines running and cleans up every one else cluster fuck

We push every one to the point, of shift supervisors, operations manager, plant manager, operators, asking a question

Why can't the rest of maintenance be like 3rd shift maintenance?

Yea I am that good

 

[Wyatt earp]

This is why I try to drill it into young liberals head, If you get so good at what you do, Unions are useless, I can set my own wages and fringe benefits, I walk the walk at work

I don't talk the talk

 

[CowboyTed]

One bad thing about non union plants like BMW in Greenville South Carolina, I heard it from a bunch of people, they go through temp Agents Now, so a new worker doing The same job is paid $10 bucks less and they have to sign a piece of paper that they are ok with it.

What drives me crazy with these pro union posters is, they would rather have no jobs , then jobs paying below Union wages, don't they get companies provide a local tax base? That's why i hate all these liberal entitlements it promotes lazy people

we live in a global Economie , were not going back to the 1950s

So you are proving the point. Union workers get better conditions.

So lets look at the largest car manufacturer in the world, Volkswagen.

The strange case of the anti-union union at Volkswagen s plant in Tennessee - The Washington Post

Volkswagen wanted a Union so they can discuss the future of the company with the workers.

You see the RWs believe screwing the union is the way to do business. But you ignore the many companies around the world which embrace the ability to talk to there employees through a representative body. Toyota do the same in Japan. These are the world big players..

 

[mikegriffith1]

What a bizarre idea: that Scott Walker views firefighters, much less workers in general, as his enemies. Let me guess: His perfectly sane labor reforms in Wisconsin, in which he merely imposed the same kinds of collective bargaining restrictions that the federal government imposes on federal unions--those reforms are what make you think he views workers as his "enemies"?

 

[Antares]

JS quoting corrupt warren. Priceless.

....but he is a REAL Republican!!!!!!

 

[Wyatt earp]

One bad thing about non union plants like BMW in Greenville South Carolina, I heard it from a bunch of people, they go through temp Agents Now, so a new worker doing The same job is paid $10 bucks less and they have to sign a piece of paper that they are ok with it.

What drives me crazy with these pro union posters is, they would rather have no jobs , then jobs paying below Union wages, don't they get companies provide a local tax base? That's why i hate all these liberal entitlements it promotes lazy people

we live in a global Economie , were not going back to the 1950s

So you are proving the point. Union workers get better conditions.

So lets look at the largest car manufacturer in the world, Volkswagen.

The strange case of the anti-union union at Volkswagen s plant in Tennessee - The Washington Post

Volkswagen wanted a Union so they can discuss the future of the company with the workers.

You see the RWs believe screwing the union is the way to do business. But you ignore the many companies around the world which embrace the ability to talk to there employees through a representative body. Toyota do the same in Japan. These are the world big players..

Yea they do for average workers, but the jobs don't flock to non right to work states do they? And if RTW states dont Exist , do you really think companies would locate to the south? No, the northern states would have to subsidize them more then they already do.

I have no answer, except I know private Union American style companies are dead. Unless they take the german model and workers really get informed about what say you linked to about volkswagon unions are really about .

 

[Wyatt earp]

I don't know if I wrote that right but I love the German style unions, I could work for them

American style Unions? No way in hell again.

 

[Freewill]

Some more information ..

At my non union plant we have in 1st shift a maintenance manager , a lead maintenance man (who both love me to death) 6 maintenance guys who respect me, but hate me .

2nd shift has 3 maintenance guys, who all hate me, but won't say it to my face

3rd shift just two now and we are the ones who get the machines running and cleans up every one else cluster fuck

We push every one to the point, of shift supervisors, operations manager, plant manager, operators, asking a question

Why can't the rest of maintenance be like 3rd shift maintenance?

Yea I am that good

We used to have a saying in the Navy. The submarine had officially two crews, gold and blue which would man the ship for 3 months at a time. We always said that the ship actually had 3 crews. Gold, Blue and Other. And that Other crew screwed everything up.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I can never under stand why workers don't want to be the gold and blue?

way to many want to be the "other"

 

[zeke]

We once had the

This is why I try to drill it into young liberals head, If you get so good at what you do, Unions are useless, I can set my own wages and fringe benefits, I walk the walk at work

I don't talk the talk

Yea, but you are all mouth here. You think any one of us posting on here believe the bullshit someone writes about themselves? Most of us, if you believe what is written, live in our moms basements, collect welfare, don't have two pennies to rub together and are communists.

But somehow, you think it worthwhile to talk about how great you are. To what purpose? You can't prove it. You ain't no ultra wealthy and never will be. You somehow landed a job that is high demand and pays well. So the fuck what? You think you are the first or only working man to ever be good at their job and make a decent living?

Give it a rest as to how great you think you are. Show that you are close to as smart as you say by posting something intelligent again.

, but the jobs don't flock to non right to work states do they?

Lets see. Ohio manufacturing state with a 4.8% UE rate.
And South Carolina a manufacturing state with 6.5% UE.

Yep, dem jobs are FLOCKING to SC. It's just they can't find enough educated workers to lower the state UE rate. Is that the problem?