Voter ID

[dblack]

Why are the liberals so against it. I have an ID for just about everything I am in my wallet.

There are Liberals in Pa. complaining about the ID requirement causing havoc at the polls because so many people don't know they need an ID with them to vote.

That doesn't say much for the voters the liberals are whining for does it.

Voter ID is a smart decision and should be a requirement in every state.

Liberals are against it for the same reason 'conservatives' are for it - it inhibits voters who would predominately vote for liberal candidates.

Libertarians are against it because it's statist, authoritarian bullshit.

 

[Immanuel]

Voter ID Laws Could Disenfranchise 1 Million Young Minority Voters: Study

a brand new one

Do you know the difference between the words "could" and "would"?

Do you know the difference between liberal opinion and reality?

Immie

 

[Oddball]

They're against it because it would stop them from cheating in elections

Meh...The cheating is in the tabulation of the votes, not in the voting booth.

And no one ever wants to talk about that kind of voting fraud.

You kidding me?

Al lolberals did during the '04 election was screech "DIEBOLD!"

 

[Immanuel]

No money huh...... liberal! Don't want to pay to play. Typical and disgusting.

What is disgusting is requiring someone to pay money in order to vote.

What is even more disgusting is liberoidals like you being perfectly good with requiring people to show ID to check into a hotel, get on an airliner, obtain a business license, or even get a fucking fishing license, then doing a 180° and declaring that an ID to vote is the biggest threat to civil liberties since slavery.

Well, there is that thing in the Constitution forbidding a poll tax... the 24th Amendment. That amendment does nothing to prevent such taxes for fishing, driving, or any other licensed activities.

If you force people to go out and pay for an id to be allowed to vote, you are in fact charging a poll tax. That's why I think that ID's for voting should be provided free of charge.

Immie

 

[AmyNation]

Meh...The cheating is in the tabulation of the votes, not in the voting booth.

And no one ever wants to talk about that kind of voting fraud.

You kidding me?

Al lolberals did during the '04 election was screech "DIEBOLD!"

Well of course, thats election season, just like now. As soon as election season ends voter ID will be all but forgotten.

 

[Oddball]

What is disgusting is requiring someone to pay money in order to vote.

What is even more disgusting is liberoidals like you being perfectly good with requiring people to show ID to check into a hotel, get on an airliner, obtain a business license, or even get a fucking fishing license, then doing a 180° and declaring that an ID to vote is the biggest threat to civil liberties since slavery.

Well, there is that thing in the Constitution forbidding a poll tax... the 24th Amendment. That amendment does nothing to prevent such taxes for fishing, driving, or any other licensed activities.

If you force people to go out and pay for an id to be allowed to vote, you are in fact charging a poll tax. That's why I think that ID's for voting should be provided free of charge.

Immie

Doesn't matter when the ID is being offered for "free".

I object to being tagged like chattel property....Voter ID is just another angle to do that.

This is why the lolberal objection to voter ID is so curious to me...They are actively engaged in pimping in favor of the "papers please" state in every other context.

 

[Seawytch]

Why are the liberals so against it. I have an ID for just about everything I am in my wallet

They're against it because it would stop them from cheating in elections

Meh...The cheating is in the tabulation of the votes, not in the voting booth.

Which is why I don't understand, if stopping fraud is the goal, that more legislators aren't pushing for paper trails on their voting machines, cameras in their tally rooms and strict two person control of ballots.

 

[Seawytch]

No money huh...... liberal! Don't want to pay to play. Typical and disgusting.

What is disgusting is requiring someone to pay money in order to vote.

What is even more disgusting is liberoidals like you being perfectly good with requiring people to show ID to check into a hotel, get on an airliner, obtain a business license, or even get a fucking fishing license, then doing a 180° and declaring that an ID to vote is the biggest threat to civil liberties since slavery.

All of those are private entities, not a fundamental right. I said that I'm not opposed to requiring IDs to vote...if the process is implemented in a sensible way that doesn't disenfranchise voters.

I just got a CA fishing license online. Piece of cake.

We'll be voting online in a few years.

 

[Seawytch]

Meh...The cheating is in the tabulation of the votes, not in the voting booth.

And no one ever wants to talk about that kind of voting fraud.

You kidding me?

Al lolberals did during the '04 election was screech "DIEBOLD!"

Do you know why? There was a letter from Walden O'Dell? Ring any bells?

 

[Big Black Dog]

If you have to have an ID to vote, how will all the dead Democrat people in Chicago vote??????????

 

[copsnrobbers]

If you have to have an ID to vote, how will all the dead Democrat people in Chicago vote??????????

Skanks find a way. Especially in Chicago where its easy. Scumbags.

 

[Politico]

IDs are free. There's maybe one or two valid arguments for not getting one. But none of them are what the libs are whinning about.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Voter ID is a smart decision and should be a requirement in every state.

Clear the runway for a Voter ID one-pointer!!!!!!

"This evidence is particularly troubling because voter ID laws touted by the right-wing media aim to address a problem that is largely non-existent. In fact, the Supreme Court plurality in Crawford v. Marion County Election Board did not find widespread in-person voter fraud, the type of fraud that voter ID laws are meant to address."

Voter I.D.;
More "conservative" Droppings

 

[Rozman]

I heard on the radio yesterday that because of the requirement for voter ID the report stated that it's
possible that 50% of the people of the city of Philadelphia will not vote.

How is that even possible?
How have these people gotten through life with out ID.
How is it possible that given as much time as they have that people still have not complied.
Are these people that helpless?
Are these people that pathetic?

 

[dblack]

I heard on the radio yesterday that because of the requirement for voter ID the report stated that it's
possible that 50% of the people of the city of Philadelphia will not vote.

How is that even possible?
How have these people gotten through life with out ID.
How is it possible that given as much time as they have that people still have not complied.
Are these people that helpless?
Are these people that pathetic?

I'd say 50% is an exaggeration, but in the general, Yes. It's possible. And real. Plenty of people don't "comply". There are lots of people you would probably consider "pathetic". And the Republicans want to strip them of their voting rights.

 

[Oddball]

What is disgusting is requiring someone to pay money in order to vote.

What is even more disgusting is liberoidals like you being perfectly good with requiring people to show ID to check into a hotel, get on an airliner, obtain a business license, or even get a fucking fishing license, then doing a 180° and declaring that an ID to vote is the biggest threat to civil liberties since slavery.

All of those are private entities, not a fundamental right. I said that I'm not opposed to requiring IDs to vote...if the process is implemented in a sensible way that doesn't disenfranchise voters.

I just got a CA fishing license online. Piece of cake.

We'll be voting online in a few years.

Voting is a privilege extended to you by the ruling class...There's no right, fundamental or otherwise, to vote....Period.

Oh, and you had to give the state of CA your Slave Surveillance Number to get that fishing license, you fool.

 

[Seawytch]

What is even more disgusting is liberoidals like you being perfectly good with requiring people to show ID to check into a hotel, get on an airliner, obtain a business license, or even get a fucking fishing license, then doing a 180° and declaring that an ID to vote is the biggest threat to civil liberties since slavery.

All of those are private entities, not a fundamental right. I said that I'm not opposed to requiring IDs to vote...if the process is implemented in a sensible way that doesn't disenfranchise voters.

I just got a CA fishing license online. Piece of cake.

We'll be voting online in a few years.

Voting is a privilege extended to you by the ruling class...There's no right, fundamental or otherwise, to vote....Period.

Where does this kind of world view come from?

Fundamental Rights

Oh, and you had to give the state of CA your Slave Surveillance Number to get that fishing license, you fool.

Yes, I provided my CDL number, just like I did when I registered...which is why I didn't have to provide identification at the polling place.

You don't think people should have to have driver's licences?

 

[Oddball]

All of those are private entities, not a fundamental right. I said that I'm not opposed to requiring IDs to vote...if the process is implemented in a sensible way that doesn't disenfranchise voters.

I just got a CA fishing license online. Piece of cake.

We'll be voting online in a few years.

Voting is a privilege extended to you by the ruling class...There's no right, fundamental or otherwise, to vote....Period.

Where does this kind of world view come from?

Fundamental Rights

Note: The document is not necessarily reflective of the current Supreme Court jurisprudence.

IOW, it's a very long opinion piece.

Oh, and you had to give the state of CA your Slave Surveillance Number to get that fishing license, you fool.

Yes, I provided my CDL number, just like I did when I registered...which is why I didn't have to provide identification at the polling place.

You don't think people should have to have driver's licences?

Thanks for proving my point that you really don't give a shit about being a piece of gubmint chattel property in any other context other than voting.

 

[Zoom-boing]

There are exceptions to having to provide a photo ID. My mom is 84, her DL expired over two years ago so she needs a photo ID to vote. But she is riddled with rheumatoid arthritis and waiting in line for hours at the DMV isn't something she can do. I'm looking into getting her an absentee ballot to vote.

This is from (PA's) voter website:

If you are unable to attend your polling place in person on Election Day, you may be eligible to vote by absentee ballot. To vote by absentee ballot, a voter must apply to the County Board of Elections for an absentee ballot. The County Board of Elections will send a paper absentee ballot to the voter. The voter then completes the ballot and returns it to the County Board of Elections.

In Pennsylvania, the County Board of Elections must receive your application for absentee ballot no later than 5 p.m. on the Tuesday before the election. In emergency situations (such as an unexpected illness or disability) you can submit an Emergency Application for Absentee Ballot, which must be submitted no later than 5 p.m. on the Friday before Election Day. Completed non-emergency absentee ballots must be received by 5 p.m. on the Friday before Election Day.

In presidential election years, absentee ballots received by the close of the polls on election day will be counted for the offices of president and vice president.

Make sure you’re registered before you apply to vote by absentee ballot. You can confirm your registration here.

What I need to know about voting by Absentee Ballot due to the Voter ID Law

New identification requirements take effect in November 2012.
Voters must provide drivers license number, last 4 digits of Social Security Number, or a copy of an acceptable photo ID when applying for an absentee ballot.
Voters may provide identifying number to county over the phone, by email or mail.
Identification will be verified by the county board of elections before the voter's ballot will be counted. Voters have 6 days following an election to provide the necessary identification.
UOCAVA voters and voters affected by the Voting Accessibility for Elderly and Handicapped Act are exempt.

Who may Vote by Absentee Ballot?

The following people may vote for any office in any election by absentee ballot as long as they are registered to vote (unless otherwise indicated):

A person who is or may be in the military service of the United States, regardless of whether at the time of voting the person is present in the election district of residence or in the Commonwealth and regardless of whether he or she is registered to vote.

A spouse or dependent residing with or accompanying a person in the military service of the United States and who expects on Election Day to be absent from his or her municipality of residence during the entire period in which the polling places are open for voting (7 a.m. to 8 p.m.).

A member of the Merchant Marine and his/her spouse and dependents residing with or accompanying the Merchant Marine, who expect on Election Day to be absent from the Commonwealth or the municipality of residence during the entire period in which the polling places are open for voting (7 a.m. to 8 p.m.).

A member of a religious or welfare group attached to and serving with the armed forces and his/her spouse and dependents residing with or accompanying him or her, who expect on Election Day to be absent from the Commonwealth or the municipality of residence during the entire period in which the polling places are open for voting (7 a.m. to 8 p.m.).

An individual who, because of the elector's duties, occupation or business (including leaves of absence for teaching, vacations and sabbatical leaves), expects on Election Day to be absent from his/her municipality of residence during the entire period the polls are open for voting and the spouse and dependents of such electors who are residing with or accompanying the elector and for that reason also expect to be absent from his/her municipality during the entire period the polls are open for voting (7 a.m. to 8 p.m.).

A qualified war veteran elector who is bedridden or hospitalized due to illness or physical disability if the elector is absent from the municipality of his residence and unable to attend his/her polling place because of such illness or disability, regardless of whether the elector is registered to vote.

A person who, because of illness or physical disability, is unable to attend his/her polling place or to operate a voting machine and obtain assistance by distinct and audible statements. (Note: A disabled elector may be placed on a permanently disabled absentee file.)

A spouse or dependent accompanying a person employed by the Commonwealth or the federal government, in the event that the employee's duties, occupation or business on Election Day require him/her to be absent from the Commonwealth or the municipality of residence during the entire period the polls are open for voting (7 a.m. to 8 p.m.).

A county employee who expects that his Election Day duties relating to the conduct of the election will prevent the employee from voting.

A person who will not attend a polling place on Election Day because of the observance of a religious holiday.

More info at link: How to Vote


It looks like she would be able to provide either her DL# (even though it's expired the above info doesn't say anything about that and she is still in the system) or last four of SS# over the phone, they will confirm her ID, she can vote and she would be exempt from providing the photo ID due to the Voting Accessibility for Elderly and Handicapped Act. At least that's how I'm reading it, will have to contact voter place to make sure.

 

[copsnrobbers]

If we can take voter fraud out of the equation Obby loses buy 25%.