Voter Fraud Hype: The GOP War On Voting Rights

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[bripat9643]

He is a dishonest bigoted Prick. Why waste your time???

"Compromising" with Democrats on spending is like being in a car with a suicidal maniac who is trying to drive it off a cliff. Democrats would have you "compromise" over how hard he should step on the gas.

 

[Old Rocks]

Easier for GOP to Rig Voting Than Win Elections Fairly: Voter Restrictions Based on Shoddy Evidence

By Steve Benen

To rationalize the "war on voting," Republican policymakers point to the scourge of voter fraud. The problem, of course, is that the allegations of fraud are largely imaginary, and GOP officials are really just looking for excuses to block traditionally-Democratic constituencies from voting.

But wait, Republicans say, occasionally there really is fraud. In fact, the Republican National Lawyers Association (RNLA) released a report last week to document all the cases of voter fraud that have been prosecuted over the last decade.

And what did the group turn up? A grand total of 311 cases. Given the larger national context -- over 131 million Americans voted in 2008, for example -- that's an infinitesimally small number.

But as Julia Krieger explained, that's really just the start of the problems with the RNLA's findings.

What's more, the RNLA is dishonestly representing their data when they describe it as "in the past decade": A quick gander at the website's evidence shows citations going as far back as 1997. Although they claim to have evidence of 46 states with voter fraud prosecutions in the last decade, their website only lists 44 states. For two of those 44, there are only examples from the 1990s up to 2000, bringing the state count down to 42. To be clear, that's eight states where they identified no instances of voter fraud in the last decade.

Further, the RNLA brags: "The RNLA webpage presents evidence that there were at least seventeen cases involving prosecutions for non-citizen voting in 2005 just in one state: Florida." However, according to the Department of Justice, at least four of the seventeen cases they list were dismissed.​

Remember, we're talking about a Republican group taking its best shot at this. RNLA officials could take their time to do as much comprehensive research as they wanted, they could define their terms to their liking; they could massage the results to match their pre-determined conclusion; and they still couldn't make much of a case.

And if the RNLA thinks these 311 cases from the last decade -- some of which weren't from the last decade, some of which were cases that got thrown out of court, some of which may have very well have been innocent mistakes -- justify a national campaign to restrict Americans' access to their own democracy, they're wildly misguided.

Republicans support all kinds of new voting restrictions -- voter-ID laws, severe limits on voter-registration drives, closing early-voting windows, strict new limits on absentee ballots -- because they find it easier to rig voter eligibility than to win elections fair and square. It's why all of these restrictions affect traditionally Democratic constituencies.

GOP officials can keep defending a foolish pretense about imaginary fraud, but there's no reason for anyone else to take it seriously.

Easier for GOP to Rig Voting Than Win Elections Fairly: Voter Restrictions Based on Shoddy Evidence | AlterNet

Supporting Links:

The GOP War on Voting | Politics News | Rolling Stone

The Myth of Voter Fraud - New York Times

Meanwhile the DOJ believes its racist to expect an individual to have to show an ID to vote.

Of course because the progressive party survives on fraudulent votes. They don't want a situation where illegals cant vote or ACORN members cant vote 10-15 times a pop..

Democrats are NOTORIOUS for their voter fraud...

Republicans are tying to fix that shit...

ACORN already got popped registering people up to 100+ times under random names...

That is 100+ votes right there if no ID was required for a ballot..

No links? Can be disregarded as lying flap-yap.

 

[Old Rocks]

Easier for GOP to Rig Voting Than Win Elections Fairly: Voter Restrictions Based on Shoddy Evidence

By Steve Benen

To rationalize the "war on voting," Republican policymakers point to the scourge of voter fraud. The problem, of course, is that the allegations of fraud are largely imaginary, and GOP officials are really just looking for excuses to block traditionally-Democratic constituencies from voting.

But wait, Republicans say, occasionally there really is fraud. In fact, the Republican National Lawyers Association (RNLA) released a report last week to document all the cases of voter fraud that have been prosecuted over the last decade.

And what did the group turn up? A grand total of 311 cases. Given the larger national context -- over 131 million Americans voted in 2008, for example -- that's an infinitesimally small number.

But as Julia Krieger explained, that's really just the start of the problems with the RNLA's findings.

What's more, the RNLA is dishonestly representing their data when they describe it as "in the past decade": A quick gander at the website's evidence shows citations going as far back as 1997. Although they claim to have evidence of 46 states with voter fraud prosecutions in the last decade, their website only lists 44 states. For two of those 44, there are only examples from the 1990s up to 2000, bringing the state count down to 42. To be clear, that's eight states where they identified no instances of voter fraud in the last decade.

Further, the RNLA brags: "The RNLA webpage presents evidence that there were at least seventeen cases involving prosecutions for non-citizen voting in 2005 just in one state: Florida." However, according to the Department of Justice, at least four of the seventeen cases they list were dismissed.​

Remember, we're talking about a Republican group taking its best shot at this. RNLA officials could take their time to do as much comprehensive research as they wanted, they could define their terms to their liking; they could massage the results to match their pre-determined conclusion; and they still couldn't make much of a case.

And if the RNLA thinks these 311 cases from the last decade -- some of which weren't from the last decade, some of which were cases that got thrown out of court, some of which may have very well have been innocent mistakes -- justify a national campaign to restrict Americans' access to their own democracy, they're wildly misguided.

Republicans support all kinds of new voting restrictions -- voter-ID laws, severe limits on voter-registration drives, closing early-voting windows, strict new limits on absentee ballots -- because they find it easier to rig voter eligibility than to win elections fair and square. It's why all of these restrictions affect traditionally Democratic constituencies.

GOP officials can keep defending a foolish pretense about imaginary fraud, but there's no reason for anyone else to take it seriously.

Easier for GOP to Rig Voting Than Win Elections Fairly: Voter Restrictions Based on Shoddy Evidence | AlterNet

Supporting Links:

The GOP War on Voting | Politics News | Rolling Stone

The Myth of Voter Fraud - New York Times

You are a hack and cannot be trusted. You have no real argument and no moral ground in obstructing the establishment of Honest Election practices, from Registration, to Voting, to Tabulation. You are the problem. You have no excuse, only schemes, scams, and fraud.

Flap yap. No evidence presented.

 

[Lakhota]

Those are only the people who have been caught. For everyone caught, there are at least 10 people who didn't get caught, and a case can involve thousands of illegal votes.

Other than typical wingnut spin, do you have any "credible" facts to back up your claims?

There's plenty of evidence, but a super tanker full wouldn't convince any of the liberal turds in here. Intelligent people understand the need for proper ID to prevent fraud. There are thousands of situations where ID is required. Even school children laugh at claim that it's "onerous" to require ID for voting

Obtaining a government-issued photo ID is a hardship for some people.

Voter ID: State Requirements

 

[Old Rocks]

He is a dishonest bigoted Prick. Why waste your time???

"Compromising" with Democrats on spending is like being in a car with a suicidal maniac who is trying to drive it off a cliff. Democrats would have you "compromise" over how hard he should step on the gas.

Just silly flap yap here. Normal, considering the source.

 

[Mr.Nick]

Supporting Links:

The GOP War on Voting | Politics News | Rolling Stone

The Myth of Voter Fraud - New York Times

Meanwhile the DOJ believes its racist to expect an individual to have to show an ID to vote.

Of course because the progressive party survives on fraudulent votes. They don't want a situation where illegals cant vote or ACORN members cant vote 10-15 times a pop..

Democrats are NOTORIOUS for their voter fraud...

Republicans are tying to fix that shit...

ACORN already got popped registering people up to 100+ times under random names...

That is 100+ votes right there if no ID was required for a ballot..

No links? Can be disregarded as lying flap-yap.

Are you fucking serious??? or do you spend all your time watching Oprah, The View and posting your ignorant fagotry online??

This happened not longer than a week ago...

Are you fucking retarded or just ignorant??

DOJ rejects South Carolina Voter ID law « Virginia Virtucon

Not only that but several states have tried to legislate their own voter ID laws and the DOJ attacked them and threatened lawsuits and filed them...

 

[bripat9643]

Just silly flap yap here. Normal, considering the source.

That appears to be the best argument you have.

 

[Lakhota]

Why no voter id check in Iowa Caucus?

Iowa protects that most fundamental right to vote - if you are a Republican.

The BRAD BLOG : No Photo ID Required to Vote in GOP's Iowa Caucus

 

[Lakhota]

Election Day Registration, No Photo ID Requirement Will Help Boost Turnout In Tomorrow's Iowa Caucuses | ThinkProgress

 

[Lakhota]

No Photo, No Problem

While Republicans pushed for tough new voter-identification standards throughout the past year -- passing stricter laws in more than a dozen states -- the GOP's Iowa caucusgoers won't even need to bring a photo ID to the polls on Tuesday.

As blogger Brad Friedman first noted, the Iowa GOP enjoys full control over its caucuses, including determining voter eligibility. Iowa Republican Party spokesman Ryan Gough told The Huffington Post that would-be voters will be checked against rolls of registered Republicans taken from the Iowa Secretary of State's office. Attendees will have to prove their identity and address, but have plenty of options besides a driver's license or passport.

"If you have, for instance, a student ID and utility bill or a pay stub with your address on it, you're good to go," Gough said.

Iowa Republicans will also be allowed to register on the night of the caucuses without any additional form of ID. Such rules, while set and administered by the state party, are drafted in line with Iowa law, according to Gough.

But in other states, Republicans have denounced same-day registration and lack of photo ID, calling such policies clear invitations to voter fraud. Perhaps most notably, a new GOP-backed law prohibiting the use of student IDs to prove voter eligibility has sparked a pitched legal battle in Wisconsin.

As for the Iowa Republican Party's stance on voter ID requirements, Gough said, "I wouldn't make a statement on that right now."

-- Max J. Rosenthal

Iowa Caucus 2012 Countdown: Live Updates From The Hawkeye State

 

[Mr.Nick]

Election Day Registration, No Photo ID Requirement Will Help Boost Turnout In Tomorrow's Iowa Caucuses | ThinkProgress

You do realize in many states both democrats and republicans can vote in primaries??

Not to mention you can be assured that 99.99% of republican voters have valid ID's.

Not to mention this is the republican primary, even if there was voter fraud why the fuck would a progressive care???

I'm sure there is some voter fraud on the right, however democrats turn voter fraud into an art form...

After all its is the democrats position one shouldn't need an ID to vote... Republicans say you do and that says a lot.....

As a libertarian I believe one should have to present an ID to vote...

If you have to prove you're 18 or older to buy smokes then why not have to prove you're 18 or older to vote???

Hell I have to show my ID to the same dude who has ID'd me 999 times for a pack of smokes. I ask him why and hes like "its the law" (which I find ridiculous btw considering my age)..... Hell I saw this drone refuse to sell smokes to an old man because he left his wallet at home (I bought him his smokes).... It's fucking retarded.

Showing an ID to vote should be mandatory tho - just like it is here to buy smokes, booze or whatever.

 

[Conservative]

Voter suppression is real and dangerous to our democracy:

Voter suppression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Currently, that page says...

Voter suppression is a figment of the imagination of the Democratic Party.They claim it is a strategy to influence the outcome of an election by discouraging or preventing people from exercising their right to vote, but have no proof of such claims.

Anyone can make Wiki say anything they like. It's a good starting point, but you rely on it too heavily.

The page also says...

The neutrality of this article is disputed.

 

[Lakhota]

By Rick Perlstein

In one state, Minnesota, 'Operation Ballot Security' issued a seven-page single-space private memorandum detailing a variety of methods for challenging voters at the polls, with instructions to discourage helpful judges in Democratic precincts, to cut off waiting lines in Democratic precincts but not in Republican precincts, and to encourage stalling in Democratic precincts while preventing stalling in Republican precincts.

Much More: Operation Eagle Eye | OurFuture.org

 

[Lakhota]

Why the 'voter fraud' myth won't die | The Institute for Southern Studies

 

[Lakhota]

Five myths about voter fraud - The Washington Post

 

[Lakhota]

The Truth About Voter Fraud

 

[Lakhota]

Voter Fraud Myths: von Spakovsky Exposed

 

[edthecynic]

We can't disenfranchise dead voters. Or worse, disenfranchise voters who wish to vote multiple times.

Gee, all the dead voters I know tell me they vote Republican.

 

[Lakhota]

Here is a nice interactive map of current voter ID requirements:

Voter ID: State Requirements