Voter Fraud Hype: The GOP War On Voting Rights

[Lakhota]

Easier for GOP to Rig Voting Than Win Elections Fairly: Voter Restrictions Based on Shoddy Evidence

By Steve Benen

To rationalize the "war on voting," Republican policymakers point to the scourge of voter fraud. The problem, of course, is that the allegations of fraud are largely imaginary, and GOP officials are really just looking for excuses to block traditionally-Democratic constituencies from voting.

But wait, Republicans say, occasionally there really is fraud. In fact, the Republican National Lawyers Association (RNLA) released a report last week to document all the cases of voter fraud that have been prosecuted over the last decade.

And what did the group turn up? A grand total of 311 cases. Given the larger national context -- over 131 million Americans voted in 2008, for example -- that's an infinitesimally small number.

But as Julia Krieger explained, that's really just the start of the problems with the RNLA's findings.

What's more, the RNLA is dishonestly representing their data when they describe it as "in the past decade": A quick gander at the website's evidence shows citations going as far back as 1997. Although they claim to have evidence of 46 states with voter fraud prosecutions in the last decade, their website only lists 44 states. For two of those 44, there are only examples from the 1990s up to 2000, bringing the state count down to 42. To be clear, that's eight states where they identified no instances of voter fraud in the last decade.

Further, the RNLA brags: "The RNLA webpage presents evidence that there were at least seventeen cases involving prosecutions for non-citizen voting in 2005 just in one state: Florida." However, according to the Department of Justice, at least four of the seventeen cases they list were dismissed.​

Remember, we're talking about a Republican group taking its best shot at this. RNLA officials could take their time to do as much comprehensive research as they wanted, they could define their terms to their liking; they could massage the results to match their pre-determined conclusion; and they still couldn't make much of a case.

And if the RNLA thinks these 311 cases from the last decade -- some of which weren't from the last decade, some of which were cases that got thrown out of court, some of which may have very well have been innocent mistakes -- justify a national campaign to restrict Americans' access to their own democracy, they're wildly misguided.

Republicans support all kinds of new voting restrictions -- voter-ID laws, severe limits on voter-registration drives, closing early-voting windows, strict new limits on absentee ballots -- because they find it easier to rig voter eligibility than to win elections fair and square. It's why all of these restrictions affect traditionally Democratic constituencies.

GOP officials can keep defending a foolish pretense about imaginary fraud, but there's no reason for anyone else to take it seriously.

Easier for GOP to Rig Voting Than Win Elections Fairly: Voter Restrictions Based on Shoddy Evidence | AlterNet

Supporting Links:

The GOP War on Voting | Politics News | Rolling Stone

The Myth of Voter Fraud - New York Times

 

[Full-Auto]

Easier for GOP to Rig Voting Than Win Elections Fairly: Voter Restrictions Based on Shoddy Evidence

By Steve Benen

To rationalize the "war on voting," Republican policymakers point to the scourge of voter fraud. The problem, of course, is that the allegations of fraud are largely imaginary, and GOP officials are really just looking for excuses to block traditionally-Democratic constituencies from voting.

But wait, Republicans say, occasionally there really is fraud. In fact, the Republican National Lawyers Association (RNLA) released a report last week to document all the cases of voter fraud that have been prosecuted over the last decade.

And what did the group turn up? A grand total of 311 cases. Given the larger national context -- over 131 million Americans voted in 2008, for example -- that's an infinitesimally small number.

But as Julia Krieger explained, that's really just the start of the problems with the RNLA's findings.

What's more, the RNLA is dishonestly representing their data when they describe it as "in the past decade": A quick gander at the website's evidence shows citations going as far back as 1997. Although they claim to have evidence of 46 states with voter fraud prosecutions in the last decade, their website only lists 44 states. For two of those 44, there are only examples from the 1990s up to 2000, bringing the state count down to 42. To be clear, that's eight states where they identified no instances of voter fraud in the last decade.

Further, the RNLA brags: "The RNLA webpage presents evidence that there were at least seventeen cases involving prosecutions for non-citizen voting in 2005 just in one state: Florida." However, according to the Department of Justice, at least four of the seventeen cases they list were dismissed.​

Remember, we're talking about a Republican group taking its best shot at this. RNLA officials could take their time to do as much comprehensive research as they wanted, they could define their terms to their liking; they could massage the results to match their pre-determined conclusion; and they still couldn't make much of a case.

And if the RNLA thinks these 311 cases from the last decade -- some of which weren't from the last decade, some of which were cases that got thrown out of court, some of which may have very well have been innocent mistakes -- justify a national campaign to restrict Americans' access to their own democracy, they're wildly misguided.

Republicans support all kinds of new voting restrictions -- voter-ID laws, severe limits on voter-registration drives, closing early-voting windows, strict new limits on absentee ballots -- because they find it easier to rig voter eligibility than to win elections fair and square. It's why all of these restrictions affect traditionally Democratic constituencies.

GOP officials can keep defending a foolish pretense about imaginary fraud, but there's no reason for anyone else to take it seriously.

Easier for GOP to Rig Voting Than Win Elections Fairly: Voter Restrictions Based on Shoddy Evidence | AlterNet

Supporting Links:

The GOP War on Voting | Politics News | Rolling Stone

The Myth of Voter Fraud - New York Times

Only two biased opinions, as Democrats plead guilty?

 

[Lakhota]

Let's do some math: 311 cases of voter fraud prosecuted since 1997. Divide that by 50 states = 6.22 violations per state. Divide that by 14 years = 0.4 (less than 1) violations per year per state over 14 years.

Does that sound serious to anyone? Is that worthy of disenfranchising millions of voters?

 

[DaGoose]

Easier for GOP to Rig Voting Than Win Elections Fairly: Voter Restrictions Based on Shoddy Evidence

By Steve Benen

To rationalize the "war on voting," Republican policymakers point to the scourge of voter fraud. The problem, of course, is that the allegations of fraud are largely imaginary, and GOP officials are really just looking for excuses to block traditionally-Democratic constituencies from voting.

But wait, Republicans say, occasionally there really is fraud. In fact, the Republican National Lawyers Association (RNLA) released a report last week to document all the cases of voter fraud that have been prosecuted over the last decade.

And what did the group turn up? A grand total of 311 cases. Given the larger national context -- over 131 million Americans voted in 2008, for example -- that's an infinitesimally small number.

But as Julia Krieger explained, that's really just the start of the problems with the RNLA's findings.

What's more, the RNLA is dishonestly representing their data when they describe it as "in the past decade": A quick gander at the website's evidence shows citations going as far back as 1997. Although they claim to have evidence of 46 states with voter fraud prosecutions in the last decade, their website only lists 44 states. For two of those 44, there are only examples from the 1990s up to 2000, bringing the state count down to 42. To be clear, that's eight states where they identified no instances of voter fraud in the last decade.

Further, the RNLA brags: "The RNLA webpage presents evidence that there were at least seventeen cases involving prosecutions for non-citizen voting in 2005 just in one state: Florida." However, according to the Department of Justice, at least four of the seventeen cases they list were dismissed.​

Remember, we're talking about a Republican group taking its best shot at this. RNLA officials could take their time to do as much comprehensive research as they wanted, they could define their terms to their liking; they could massage the results to match their pre-determined conclusion; and they still couldn't make much of a case.

And if the RNLA thinks these 311 cases from the last decade -- some of which weren't from the last decade, some of which were cases that got thrown out of court, some of which may have very well have been innocent mistakes -- justify a national campaign to restrict Americans' access to their own democracy, they're wildly misguided.

Republicans support all kinds of new voting restrictions -- voter-ID laws, severe limits on voter-registration drives, closing early-voting windows, strict new limits on absentee ballots -- because they find it easier to rig voter eligibility than to win elections fair and square. It's why all of these restrictions affect traditionally Democratic constituencies.

GOP officials can keep defending a foolish pretense about imaginary fraud, but there's no reason for anyone else to take it seriously.

Easier for GOP to Rig Voting Than Win Elections Fairly: Voter Restrictions Based on Shoddy Evidence | AlterNet

Supporting Links:

The GOP War on Voting | Politics News | Rolling Stone

The Myth of Voter Fraud - New York Times

The big question is: Why does the GOP push an issue that really doesn't exist?

The big answer is: Because big voter turnouts usually favor Democrats.

So anything the GOP can do that will discourage voter turnout can only help the GOP. And they don't care how hard they make it on the poor and elderly to exercize their right to vote as long as they can push their agenda. And that agenda is to give tax breaks to the wealthy while continuing to favor a big, activist government that intrudes on the private lives of its citizens.

 

[Full-Auto]

Let's do some math: 311 cases of voter fraud prosecuted since 1997. Divide that by 50 states = 6.22 violations per state. Divide that by 14 years = 0.4 (less than 1) violations per year per state over 14 years.

Does that sound serious to anyone? Is that worthy of disenfranchising millions of voters?

You didnt account for all the cases dropped by democrats. Or failing to prosecute.

 

[Full-Auto]

I should add it is quite easy to debunk your BS.

in 2004 there were an extra thousand votes then voters in King County alone. Not a single prosecution.

 

[Lakhota]

Let's do some math: 311 cases of voter fraud prosecuted since 1997. Divide that by 50 states = 6.22 violations per state. Divide that by 14 years = 0.4 (less than 1) violations per year per state over 14 years.

Does that sound serious to anyone? Is that worthy of disenfranchising millions of voters?

You didnt account for all the cases dropped by democrats. Or failing to prosecute.

Democrats? This report came from the Republican National Lawyers Association (RNLA).

 

[Full-Auto]

Let's do some math: 311 cases of voter fraud prosecuted since 1997. Divide that by 50 states = 6.22 violations per state. Divide that by 14 years = 0.4 (less than 1) violations per year per state over 14 years.

Does that sound serious to anyone? Is that worthy of disenfranchising millions of voters?

You didnt account for all the cases dropped by democrats. Or failing to prosecute.

Democrats? This report came from the Republican National Lawyers Association (RNLA).

I dont care where it came from.

IT and you have been debunked.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The non-living and Mickey Mouse are both better represented by the Democrat Party, who can dent them their right to vote?

 

[Lakhota]

The non-living and Mickey Mouse are both better represented by the Democrat Party, who can dent them their right to vote?

That is irrelevant - unless they actually vote!

 

[whitehall]

Who are these strange tribe of people who live in the United States without identification? They never entered a federal building, cashed a check, rented an apartment, had a bank account, had a job, collected public assistance, drove a car or rode on a plane? Get a grant for a study, it might be a whole new species. Get the point? The ID outrage is bogus. It's a left wing attempt to keep the ACORN criminal emterprise going or it's a cheap attempt to deflect attention from the real issues.

 

[Lakhota]

Brad Friedman: Republicans Require No Photo ID To Vote In Republican Iowa Caucus

 

[hjmick]

How much voter fraud is acceptable? How much would it take for you to find it unacceptable?

 

[Lakhota]

Voter suppression is real and dangerous to our democracy:

Voter suppression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Charles_Main]

Easier for GOP to Rig Voting Than Win Elections Fairly: Voter Restrictions Based on Shoddy Evidence

By Steve Benen

To rationalize the "war on voting," Republican policymakers point to the scourge of voter fraud. The problem, of course, is that the allegations of fraud are largely imaginary, and GOP officials are really just looking for excuses to block traditionally-Democratic constituencies from voting.

But wait, Republicans say, occasionally there really is fraud. In fact, the Republican National Lawyers Association (RNLA) released a report last week to document all the cases of voter fraud that have been prosecuted over the last decade.

And what did the group turn up? A grand total of 311 cases. Given the larger national context -- over 131 million Americans voted in 2008, for example -- that's an infinitesimally small number.

But as Julia Krieger explained, that's really just the start of the problems with the RNLA's findings.

What's more, the RNLA is dishonestly representing their data when they describe it as "in the past decade": A quick gander at the website's evidence shows citations going as far back as 1997. Although they claim to have evidence of 46 states with voter fraud prosecutions in the last decade, their website only lists 44 states. For two of those 44, there are only examples from the 1990s up to 2000, bringing the state count down to 42. To be clear, that's eight states where they identified no instances of voter fraud in the last decade.

Further, the RNLA brags: "The RNLA webpage presents evidence that there were at least seventeen cases involving prosecutions for non-citizen voting in 2005 just in one state: Florida." However, according to the Department of Justice, at least four of the seventeen cases they list were dismissed.​

Remember, we're talking about a Republican group taking its best shot at this. RNLA officials could take their time to do as much comprehensive research as they wanted, they could define their terms to their liking; they could massage the results to match their pre-determined conclusion; and they still couldn't make much of a case.

And if the RNLA thinks these 311 cases from the last decade -- some of which weren't from the last decade, some of which were cases that got thrown out of court, some of which may have very well have been innocent mistakes -- justify a national campaign to restrict Americans' access to their own democracy, they're wildly misguided.

Republicans support all kinds of new voting restrictions -- voter-ID laws, severe limits on voter-registration drives, closing early-voting windows, strict new limits on absentee ballots -- because they find it easier to rig voter eligibility than to win elections fair and square. It's why all of these restrictions affect traditionally Democratic constituencies.

GOP officials can keep defending a foolish pretense about imaginary fraud, but there's no reason for anyone else to take it seriously.

Easier for GOP to Rig Voting Than Win Elections Fairly: Voter Restrictions Based on Shoddy Evidence | AlterNet

Supporting Links:

The GOP War on Voting | Politics News | Rolling Stone

The Myth of Voter Fraud - New York Times

Rolling stone and the New york Times say the GOP is the Devil.

Shocker.

lol

dude you really need to try and read stuff not completely biased to your way of thinking. It is the only way you will ever Expand your narrow little view of things.

 

[Steelplate]

Let's do some math: 311 cases of voter fraud prosecuted since 1997. Divide that by 50 states = 6.22 violations per state. Divide that by 14 years = 0.4 (less than 1) violations per year per state over 14 years.

Does that sound serious to anyone? Is that worthy of disenfranchising millions of voters?

You didnt account for all the cases dropped by democrats. Or failing to prosecute.

How many would that be? Obviously you have the data to support your hypothesis.

 

[Lakhota]

How much voter fraud is acceptable? How much would it take for you to find it unacceptable?

Any reasonable amount that does not affect the outcome of an election and doesn't disenfranchise legal voters from exercising their rights. Few things in life have zero margin of error. I consider 0.4 (less than 1) violations per year per state over 14 years to be totally acceptable.

 

[driveby]

Al Franken......

 

[Katzndogz]

We can't disenfranchise dead voters. Or worse, disenfranchise voters who wish to vote multiple times.

 

[Full-Auto]

Let's do some math: 311 cases of voter fraud prosecuted since 1997. Divide that by 50 states = 6.22 violations per state. Divide that by 14 years = 0.4 (less than 1) violations per year per state over 14 years.

Does that sound serious to anyone? Is that worthy of disenfranchising millions of voters?

You didnt account for all the cases dropped by democrats. Or failing to prosecute.

How many would that be? Obviously you have the data to support your hypothesis.

Has anyone tallied the over votes throughout the country?

In our State it is perfectly acceptable to avg a thousand votes more then voters. The excuse is it happens every election.