"Violence Doesn't Solve Anything"

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    "Violence doesn't solve anything."

    Hmmm...I'm certain the citizens of Carthage would like to hear that, as violence most certainly settled their fates. Or perhaps the citizens of Rome would also be interested in that notion as the Visigoths sacked what was once the proud heart of the Roman Empire.

    While we're at it, perhaps we could call forth the shades of Napoleon Bonaparte and the Duke of Wellington to debate the issue, with Hitler as the mediator. And as for Hitler, violence was his solution for millions and, in the end, himself.

    Violence has settled more issues in human history than many of care to think of, whether justly or unjustly. Its application should be left in the hands of those schooled and experienced in that application. And our political leaders should listen to those rough men who go into harms way, before sending them there. Unlike the dilettantes we now have in office have done. Or, more appropriately, failed to do.

    My thanks to Robert A. Heinlein and "<i>Starship Trooper</i>".
     
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    Sure. But Dennis Prager's standard seems to be, "violence against Muslims and National Socialists is good." That is, "violence against the enemies of the Jews."

    I doubt he'd agree that violence against Jews is good. But there are those who believe that the only solution to the Jewish problem is violence against Jews. I'm not saying I subscribe to this view, but there it is.
     
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    Oh don't be so effing coy about it. You and RWA should both hang out at Stormfront's BB. I'm certain both you anti-semitic sots would have been happier had Hitler won W.W.II. But you'd find some other race or ethnicity to dehumanize and denigrate just to make you, the snivelling little mediocrities that you are, feel better about yourselves.
     
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    Those guys all wore sunglasses? Wow - you learn something new every day, I guess. Kind of hard to picture, isn't it - Napoleon hanging out, looking cool in his shades...Hitler burning a joint...?
     
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    Don't be obtuse...Shades...Ghosts...spectres... :D
     
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    To the gentle musical accompaniment of a rap boom box:

    "I'm the Duke of Wellington - the baddest dude

    I put Little Frenchy on a watery loo

    He be short and nasty - but he got good dope

    And we're chillin' with Adolf - smokin' that rope

    Yeah, smokin' that rope - boom boom thump boom boom thump

    Smokin'that rope..."
     
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    Bully, do us a favor and read the full article before you respond. Then lead us through the finer points of how no moral good can come from the use of violence. Prager said that moral good can come from the use of violence, and he gave examples to illustrate that. Are you saying that no good came from the use of violence to stop Napoleon and Hitler?
     
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    If you'd actually paid attention to what I wrote, you would see that I have no compunction against the just use of force, which was the case with Hitler and Napoleon. There will, likely, always be a need for the use of force, and those we entrust to use that force must understand its application and its limitations as well as understanding and accepting the responsibility and consequences for its use.
     
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    Sorry if I misread the intent of your first post. My first impression was that you thought you had found a post you could do a little trolling on. Glad to know that you agree with Prager that moral good can come out of the use of violence because it can and most definitely does.
     

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