Is It A Provocation To Knock Down Those N. Korean Missles?

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    Now before you react to quickly, here's what the title of my post meant.

    Some folks in the news media actually, I really mean this, actually have questioned whether or not we should knock down those N. Korean long range missles with our new anti-missle defense system. They have actually questioned whether the act of doing this would be a provocation against the N. Koreans?

    I ask those great liberal intellects(Poli-Sci Majors) of the News Media this: What is the alternative? Let a Taep-dong incinerate a U.S. city as the alternative. Then what?

    Well, of course they wouldn't want that to happen would they? Remember we are under the heavy media blanket of the ex-"Make Love not War" genre of the 70's who have graduated to ironed shirts, neck ties and business suits to give legitimacy to their callings.

    To them, this is a legitimate question. They have taken a semi-biblical view of "turning the other cheek", and have replaced "fist/hand" with "Taep-dong" multi-stage, nuclear armed intercontinental ballistic missle.

    Isn't it wonderful to have these folks watching-out for your collective lives through their caring, global view, of group hugginess to all.

    I still remember these potentially beautiful minds being destroyed with LSD, Free Sex, and Ecstacy; creating a world for themselves that was akin to the old ostrich burying it's head in a hole, while all hell was breaking loose around them.

    3 million Cambodians could be slaughtered, but these warped intellects only saw their own country as the aggressor against the innocent.

    Selective empathy, typified their lives, as myriads of political, religious, and philosophical dissentors around the world were butchered, they continued there mantra, of anti-authoritarianism. "America could do no good, the rest of the world could do no wrong.".
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    So we come back to N. Korea again. We have here a country that rattles it's collective swords in our face. It plays dangerous games with their missle arsenal in both the Sea of Japan and China, and now potentially in the Eastern Pacific(That's us!). A large portion of the media, would like us to believe that N. Korea is actually the one who is on the defensive, and that the U.S. is in some convoluted way the aggressor.

    Back during the Cold War Days, both Democrats and Republicans all agreed that the way to thwart the Soviet Super Power was to counter their aggressive anti-U.S. nuclear arsenal, was to match and even exceed them so that at no time would the U.S.S.R. consider a first-strike option against us. No one in the media back then would even consider questioning the U.S.'s response if the Soviets had committed a first-act provocation. In fact if a Soviet intercontinental ballistic missle was test fired anywhere near or towards our nation, that was considered a war-provocation. The Soviets new that, and didn't shoot any missles towards our nation in any test mode. They knew that we would react with overwhelming might.

    Well, here we are today. We are forced into the "appease" mode by the left. We are supposed to try and understand our enemys and have empathy for their plight, and why they act belligerently towards us. We metaphorically are supposed to hand the mugger/burglar all our possessions, as we don't understand their pitiful plight of life.

    We Americans are fat, and drunk with wealth, and calloused hearts. We deserve to be "shellac-ed" up one side and down another. We rape the resources of the world for our own greedy wants, and now we have the "gall" to actually provoke N. Korea by blasting one of their "hell" bound missles menacingly headed towards our Nation/continent.

    We need to lie down and suffer for our survivalist attitude in the midst of such wealth. Not!!!

    Maybe our greatest enemy(s) isn't N. Korea, but actually those that claim to be Americans out of one side of their mouths, and "dish" their country out ot the other side. Seems that there's a hypocrisy here. "I'm a patriot, but, oh, how I abhor this nation!!".
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    You won't find a reference link for the above as this was all from Eightball's convoluted mind. lol... I'm sure the libs have an internment camp in the Utah desert, waiting for me in a few years when they get back Congress, the Supreme Court, and the White House.
     
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    And what happens if our missle defense fails? Then the North Koreans will be emboldened and claim a 'victory' over the US.

    We should be blasting these things off their launch pads.
     
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    I don't understand why Dubya hasn't launched a war against North Korea. They are, and have been for the last decade, a far greater threat than Saddam ever was. Their leader is completely nuts and, unlike Saddam, has absolutely nothing to lose (because there is absolutely nothing of value in that country).

    I would support a war against North Korea.

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    Under what pretext? That they say they have Nukes? Honestly, what would the reason for war be against N. Korea?

    As for the originating question... No, we shouldn't attempt to knock down their missiles, not because it would be provocation, but because their secondary launches are only to cover their previous failure. Instead we should be pointing our fingers and laughing, they have egg on their face.
     
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    Don't shoot them down. Let them practice and practice and hone their stuff so they can have formidable weapon.

    Now we just have to decide when their next missle is the one that works, ok. Right?
     
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    And when Japan or Alaska gets nuked you can all blame Bush and grab more seats in the house!
     
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    So how much information do you think we gained on the stage of development in their missile program, by watching these failed tests? My guess is a lot.
    How much more will we learn from the second round? Much more, including verification of the first test data IMO.

    In the end we will know just how close they are to success. At that point an informed decision can be made. A cruise will wipe out their missile while it sits on the pad. Until then why bother? We have many pans in the fire right now.
     
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    Given that their guidance systems are crap and they don't have any payload beyond conventional HE, and they can't fit their nukes on them...Not to mention that Chimpy's "Missile Shield" has only worked a couple of times under VERY controlled conditions, it's really a moot point.

    We also have to consider that by attacking the only non-nuclear memebr of Chimpy's famous "Axis of Evil" (<i>who writes his crap anyways?</i>), Iraq, North Korea and Krazy Kim could make a somewhat credible argument that they restarted their nuclear weapons program to deter US aggression. Iran, if they actually fessed up to their program can make the same argument. Especially given that they share a border with Iraq.
     
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    yup
     
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    You might support a war against North Korea...But doesn't South Korea have any say in the matter? After all, it's South Korea that would become the killing field should the North Korean army come spilling across the DMZ. We are talking about one of the world's most robust economies being laid waste, you know.
     
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