USPS loses $16 billion. Raises all around!

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Not sure what the relationship is between needing a USPS 200+ years ago and spending $Billions today to subsidize the USPS when private industry can do the job.

Women could not vote 200+ years ago, therefore they should not be able to vote today?

Your Sentimentality is very Selective.

Except the Private Sector won't do the job.

They'll do what they can make money doing. If there's no money to be made sending stuff to Aunt Gertie in the sticks, they won't do that.

They would do it: but not at a loss.

I see no reason to subsidize Aunt Gertie, or anyone else. If they want to raise goats 93 miles from the nearest UPS office, then they'd better sell more cabrito if they want to send christmas cards, but don't reach into my wallet to subsidize their lifestyle choice.
 
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Not sure what the relationship is between needing a USPS 200+ years ago and spending $Billions today to subsidize the USPS when private industry can do the job.

Women could not vote 200+ years ago, therefore they should not be able to vote today?

Your Sentimentality is very Selective.

Except the Private Sector won't do the job.

They'll do what they can make money doing. If there's no money to be made sending stuff to Aunt Gertie in the sticks, they won't do that.

They would do it: but not at a loss.

I see no reason to subsidize Aunt Gertie, or anyone else. If they want to raise goats 93 miles from the nearest UPS office, then they'd better sell more cabrito if they want to send christmas cards, but don't reach into my wallet to subsidize their lifestyle choice.

The Modern Republican Party. I've got mine, fuck you.

And it wonders why it loses elections.
 
Except the Private Sector won't do the job.

They'll do what they can make money doing. If there's no money to be made sending stuff to Aunt Gertie in the sticks, they won't do that.

They would do it: but not at a loss.

I see no reason to subsidize Aunt Gertie, or anyone else. If they want to raise goats 93 miles from the nearest UPS office, then they'd better sell more cabrito if they want to send christmas cards, but don't reach into my wallet to subsidize their lifestyle choice.

The Modern Republican Party. I've got mine, fuck you.

And it wonders why it loses elections.

Interestingly, it wasn't because Aunt Gertie did not vote Republican.
 
They are losing money because they have a union eating them from the inside. Their workers don't fear being fired so many of them are lazy pieces of shit.

I've been getting my mail delivered after 6pm, in the dark. What the fuck is the mail boy doing all day to not get done before dinner?

2 weeks ago I actually had to go to the post office to pick up a registered letter and this asshole behind the desk was studying for what looked like some post service test until he finally decided to help me. What the fuck is he reading at the front desk?

These assholes are protected by their unions, so they work slower and cost USPS more money on getting the mission done. They know it takes an act of God to fire them especially if they are a minority worker or so-called disabled.

This is what happens when the union cancer gets into an organization.

when your on the outside looking in its easy to make dumbass assumptions....come on down Berserk lets see you carry a route plus 2 hours of another and get done in 8 hours.....we see dipshits like you 2-3 times a month come in to carry ......everyone of you kind of people say...."how hard could it be?"....a week later they quit...."i didnt think it was so hard...and you cant see in the dark." .....in the 1980's it was kick back job.....not anymore....street times have gone from 3-4 Hours to 7-9 hours....deliveries from 2-4 hundred to 7 hundred to a thousand.....so come on down show us how its done.....
 
If there's no money to be made sending stuff to Aunt Gertie in the sticks, they won't do that.

Bullshit. Aunt Gert could get deliveries, just not at the price you find convenient.

What if aunt Gertie is on a fixed income?

In that case she shouldn't have to pay ANYTHING for postage.

We need to tax anyone living in urban areas to subsidize rural Aunt Gerdie's postage paid porn addiction.
 
I would like to see the post office brought back into the government and ran as an enterprise fund. It's part of our Constitution and is the only legal way to send first class mail so keep it but bring it under the government and disband the union (no need for unions in government work). The way it is being ran now is irresponsible. Either make them a government department or change the postal laws and stop funding them with government money.

you need a union in the PO.....work there and you will see why...and what Government money are you talking about?.....
 
I would like to see the post office brought back into the government and ran as an enterprise fund. It's part of our Constitution and is the only legal way to send first class mail so keep it but bring it under the government and disband the union (no need for unions in government work). The way it is being ran now is irresponsible. Either make them a government department or change the postal laws and stop funding them with government money.

You need government unions for the same reason you need private sector unions.

To keep those in charge from abusing their authority.

and that is the major reason right there.......Middle and upper management not only have some real fucked up assholes.....they are horrible managers as well....
 
:lol: Thanks for the laugh.

BTW, does that private company get to steal money from customers that aren't their customers? Probably why they'd be more expensive, eh?

So I guess by you spinning off-topic, you don't have an answer?

Uh, the PO has a legal monopoly on first class mail. It is therefore impossible to identify a competitor that could do it better, even though any rational person knows the private sector is always more efficient...competition and all forces that.

90% of the carriers in this Country who have their own routes do it pretty dam efficiently....management is the reason it is not run well......they are in the process of fucking it up even more as we post....
 
Well once again the post office isn't a business...

Doesn't mean it shouldn't be replaced by many businesses.

And there is no private business that can compete with the post office when it comes to most packages and letters.

Again, private companies are prevented by law from delivering letters. With regard to other packages, UPS, FedEX, DHL, etc would disagree. As would many of their customers.

I seriously do not understand why you're not getting this.

Such is the case with most people on the receiving end of a service made possible with other people's money.

I say it's time for you to pay for your own delivery service.

With regard to other packages, UPS, FedEX, DHL, etc would disagree. As would many of their customers.


they are so good that we deliver a portion of their packages for them...they drop them off every day.......they dont deliver any of ours......and i dont think DHL is in the package business anymore, we were delivering so many of theirs at one time i had thought the PO bought them out....
 
I would like to see the post office brought back into the government and ran as an enterprise fund. It's part of our Constitution and is the only legal way to send first class mail so keep it but bring it under the government and disband the union (no need for unions in government work). The way it is being ran now is irresponsible. Either make them a government department or change the postal laws and stop funding them with government money.

You need government unions for the same reason you need private sector unions.

To keep those in charge from abusing their authority.

Only to be abused by the union leaders? Great plan. :clap2:

33 years in i havent been abused.....i know many guys through the years who were not satisfied with the representation they gave them.....many of them just quit the Union....
 
And you like just another "Give me my gubmint stuff" recipient. Lots of you these days.

Are you really going to claim the post office is now an entitlement program?

You sure as hell claim to be entitled to it. And according to the Constitution, you are. I'm saying the time for a national post office has passed. Time to amend. Time for you to pay for the services your business requires without taking from taxpayers. Not so hard to understand really.

how is he taking from the Tax Payers?....
 
We're not going to agree on this and frankly I think you're a moron. Thankfully though your opinion means nothing and I'll continue to have a cheap efficient means to conduct my business. Thanks for your tax dollars asshole.

Reverting to multiple ad hominem attacks in lieu of logic or reason...typical.

Anyway, good luck with all that. And good luck keeping your cheap delivery service made possible through theft. It's not like the country is running out of money or anything...:doubt:

If you don't understand why a government postal service that's efficient and cheap is necessary for a society to conduct business, then all I can do is call you a fucking moron and move on. When you move out of your parents' house maybe you'll understand.

And yeah, it's the post office that's bleeding this country dry. Not the wars, fucked up tax system, or a whole gang of corruption. Nope, it's actually the best, most beneficial and most efficient thing the government does.

its also the only thing they have that can make them money.....if they would let it and get some real business people running it.....in the 90's Marvin Runyon was the PMG.....now he was called Carvin Marvin because he liked to trim companies down......but the nineties saw the PO in the Black a few times....there was a lot of mail coming through back then.....but then to be fair Businesses were doing pretty good everywhere.....but Marvin was responsible for a lot of Companies going with the PO....
 
So I guess by you spinning off-topic, you don't have an answer?

Uh, the PO has a legal monopoly on first class mail. It is therefore impossible to identify a competitor that could do it better, even though any rational person knows the private sector is always more efficient...competition and all forces that.

Private secter is more efficient, but not cheaper.

in the Delivery world it depends on what you are talking about.....as far as Efficient....
 
Given that it is a Washington (Moonie) Times article we can automatically assume that they are omitting key information

How did their Retirement Account grow? Was it through their own contributions? Was it from mandated matching contributions? Was it from increases in the stock market?

My Retirement Account grew last year....but it wasn't from compensation

I suspect another Washington Times propaganda piece

What are they going to do when Moon's heirs cash out the Cult and close down the paper?

i'm sure there will be many more places for them to get propaganda, lies and fauxrage. it's who they are.

reality:

The chief of the struggling U.S. Postal Service received $384,229 in compensation last year

Postal chief's pay under fire from lawmaker - Mar. 2, 2012

that said... the postmaster general still shouldn't earn almost what the president does.

the PMG should have been fired long ago.....he may be one of the worst ever....
 
Private secter is more efficient, but not cheaper.

it isn't more efficient.

and things that operate in the public interest shouldn't be 'for profit'... there is no incentive to ACT in the public interest when profits are involved. that seems to be the part of the equation that the brainwashed right has a problem with.

Agreed: public sector jobs should not operate for profit.

However, public sector jobs should not be created when their function can be satisfied in the private sector.

The USPS is obsolete.

not according to many business people on my route.......and regular people.....you would be surprised,i was,at how many people do not care for UPS or Fed-X....people think they dont fuck up.....believe me they do and have.....their delivery people are no better than the Postal Carrier.....and all 3 of us would like to not have to deliver what the others do.....there is enough shit to go around....
 
it isn't more efficient.

and things that operate in the public interest shouldn't be 'for profit'... there is no incentive to ACT in the public interest when profits are involved. that seems to be the part of the equation that the brainwashed right has a problem with.

Agreed: public sector jobs should not operate for profit.

However, public sector jobs should not be created when their function can be satisfied in the private sector.

The USPS is obsolete.

not according to many business people on my route.......and regular people.....you would be surprised,i was,at how many people do not care for UPS or Fed-X....people think they dont fuck up.....believe me they do and have.....their delivery people are no better than the Postal Carrier.....and all 3 of us would like to not have to deliver what the others do.....there is enough shit to go around....

My point was that when the U.S. Constitution was written, 200+ years ago. the USPS served a unique and critical purpose.

Now, private enterpise can do the job: Plus there are many technological advances (telegraph, telephone, cellular, fax, email) that can substitute most USPS functions that are 200 years old.



I never asserted that any method of delivery was perfect.
 
Agreed: public sector jobs should not operate for profit.

However, public sector jobs should not be created when their function can be satisfied in the private sector.

The USPS is obsolete.

not according to many business people on my route.......and regular people.....you would be surprised,i was,at how many people do not care for UPS or Fed-X....people think they dont fuck up.....believe me they do and have.....their delivery people are no better than the Postal Carrier.....and all 3 of us would like to not have to deliver what the others do.....there is enough shit to go around....

My point was that when the U.S. Constitution was written, 200+ years ago. the USPS served a unique and critical purpose.

Now, private enterpise can do the job: Plus there are many technological advances (telegraph, telephone, cellular, fax, email) that can substitute most USPS functions that are 200 years old.



I never asserted that any method of delivery was perfect.

and with private Enterprise comes 5-6 people with their hands in your mailbox......a small package delivered by one of the six is stolen....if its privatized it should be a monopoly by one company.....:eusa_eh:...
 

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