USMB Poll

[Dissent]

Obama will destroy the economy and will sink the US until a civil war breaks out here and we either return to sane government or we break into enclaves based on race/religion/wealth/ideology.

And you're banking on some kind of upside after this ?

You just decided "Nov 6 ah fuck it ...up from the ashes" ?

I decided Obama will do what needs to be done. To get something better we all have to suffer some.

Well we disagree there. I am a radical,I want radical change in this country and electing a man like Romney will just continue our trip down mediocre lane. Obama will destroy the economy and will sink the US until a civil war breaks out here and we either return to sane government or we break into enclaves based on race/religion/wealth/ideology.

Ok - finally! This is exactly what I said before. You're hoping for complete collapse hoping it will create the anarchy you desire.

It took you 25 fucking posts before you could finally be honest about it....

Never saw you say that...I would have admitted to it...I have said that all along that's what I wanted to happen.

He's not "progressive". You just make shit up in your state of juvenile tantrum. And, it has NOTHING to do with who you "disagree" with stupid. It has to do with a choice. Your choice is Barack Obama or Mitt Romney. And the question is - which one is closer to the guy you supported (in your case, the radical kook Ron Paul).

Barack Obama wants to grow government and raise your taxes. Mitt Romney wants to shrink government and lower your taxes. Which one is closer to Ron Paul?

It really is that easy... and it's astounding that you can't "comprehend" that. Only Mitt Romney or Barack Obama is going to be president. I can't believe you're too stupid to comprehend that. And you're not going to get the GOP to cower to your radical anarchy by not supporting Romney. All your going to do is punish yourself with big government communism. You're literally so fucking stupid, you're cutting off your nose just to spite your face. The GOP is never going radical anarchy. You're choice is small constitutional government (Romney/GOP) or big communism (Obama/Democrats). Pick one. You have no other choice stupid.

Wrong again. We have several choices. LMAO ROFL...small constitutional government under Romney...oh man...you are one stupid son of a bitch. You gotta be really stupid to believe that tripe.I am contemplating ripping you a new one or wondering if its even worth my time trying to talk some sense into you....I am leaning towards you are a moron who's hate for Obama is stronger than your like for Willard and you don't care who becomes president as long as it isn't Obama.

You have two choices, and only two choices, you rebel-without-a-clue, maaaaan.... Mitt Romney or Barack Obama will be president. Pick one, maaaaan

As far as my hate for Obama vs. my like for "Willard" - I'm not a radical or a moron like you. We have two choices, I'm picking the one who is closest to giving the United States the Constitutional government they deserve.

It's pretty sad when you can't even count to two and when you have to make a choice betwee A. and B. and you can't even do that. No wonder you're a radical idiot anarchist....

There are several choices for president just because the one I am voting for doesn't have a chance at winning doesn't mean I shouldn't vote for him. That is just your opinion and a butt hurt one at that because no matter how much you repeat Willard is going to win you know deep down he won't and are really mad about that...blame me I don't care I find it amusing. So we went from Willard being a small government constitutionalist to the closest thing...well that isn't true either Gary Johnson is the closest thing to that not Willard. Argue with me as much as you want I won't change my mind...I am still fairly young only 28 and I could have a hand in helping my country rise from the ashes and go back to common sense government and a citizenry that will keep government power in check with the barrel of a gun like is supposed to happen.

 

[Qantrill]

Voting for someone other than the top two contenders is not a wasted vote. It can show a viable base of support for a third (fourth, fifth, or umpteenth) party candidacy. Of course the two main parties want you to believe that they are the only realistic alternatives and supporting any other person or party is a complete waste. And folks who swallow that hook , line and sinker have helped them gain their current stranglehold over the U.S. government.
Just MHO.

When there is an incumbent piece of shit like Obama just dying for four more years to ruin this democracy, a vote for a third or fourth party is a wasted vote. Sorry, but it is.

 

[P@triot]

...small constitutional government under Romney...oh man...you are one stupid son of a bitch. You gotta be really stupid to believe that tripe.

You're entire problem is that you believe Constitutional = anarchy. You're just an immature dick. It's time to grow up little boy. Big your big boy pants on, and become a man. That means set down the big fat doobie, maaaaan. It means realizing we have to laws, maaaaaan. And it means that we need law enforcement to enforce those laws, maaaaan.

God almight are you immature people the worst to deal with... How sad is it that a person who claims to have children act like a 17 year old?!?!?

 

[Liability]

ok

Yes. It is.

ok

That's what I told you!

 

[Liability]

Directly related to info provided by Ernie, this read is interesting, too.

The PJ Tatler » Skewed and Unskewed Polls

 

[Dissent]

No I believe constitutional means just that. Obeying to the word the Constitution...90% of the crap we have in government was never approved by the constitution so it needs to be destroyed. I don't smoke weed idiot..I don't smoke anything or drink alcohol. We do have laws but I refuse to obey immoral or illegal laws that go against the constitution. I see no places in the constitution that gives the right for speed limits or seat belt laws or anything of that sort...that's just a small start...You call it immature I call it a yearning to be free to run my own life as I see fit as long as I do not harm others which I have never done.

 

[P@triot]

There are several choices for president just because the one I am voting for doesn't have a chance at winning doesn't mean I shouldn't vote for him. That is just your opinion and a butt hurt one at that because no matter how much you repeat Willard is going to win you know deep down he won't and are really mad about that...blame me I don't care I find it amusing. So we went from Willard being a small government constitutionalist to the closest thing...well that isn't true either Gary Johnson is the closest thing to that not Willard. Argue with me as much as you want I won't change my mind...I am still fairly young only 28 and I could have a hand in helping my country rise from the ashes and go back to common sense government and a citizenry that will keep government power in check with the barrel of a gun like is supposed to happen.

I rest my case.... An anarchist idiot, maaaaaaan. Fuck the PIGS, maaaaan. God almighty what a dumb fool. Anarchy will never come - you'll just get more and more communism. That fact that you really believe you are punishing Mitt, the GOP, or me speaks volumes of your stupidity or immaturity.

Trust me, Mitt, the GOP, and myself will be laughing at you living under communism. You're collapse and anarchy are not coming and they never will. It's Mitt or it's communism. You lose stupid. With your hate of laws and authority, it's going to be comical as hell watching you get face-planted into the cement by Obama's Gestapo...

By the way, the rest of the nation is going to save you from your own stupidity. Mitt Romney is going to win in a landslide (been predicting this since the November 2010 ass-kicking Obama took) and the poll here shows just how stupid you and the dumbocrats are. But damn it would have been great to watch you live under an oppresive regime because you're such an immature asshole, you'd cut off your own nose just to spite your face. The very definition of stupid....

 

[Not2BSubjugated]

Obama will destroy the economy and will sink the US until a civil war breaks out here and we either return to sane government or we break into enclaves based on race/religion/wealth/ideology.

And you're banking on some kind of upside after this ?

You just decided "Nov 6 ah fuck it ...up from the ashes" ?

I know, right? How sad is that level of ignorance? We not only have to deal with the uniformed, radical communist dumbocrats, but we also have to deal with the idealist, radical anarchist who believe that the Constitution, laws, and civility equals oppression, maaaaaaan.

Now smoke a fat one and lets collapse this nation under Obama, maaaaaan....

Libertarians are anarchists who are against the Constitution? And you have the nerve to call -other- people uninformed?

 

[Mustang]

What can I tell you? Four years after the financial sector meltdown, there's no way in hell I'm going to vote for a former private equity fund manager.

 

[Dissent]

Lol...

 

[P@triot]

No I believe constitutional means just that. Obeying to the word the Constitution...90% of the crap we have in government was never approved by the constitution so it needs to be destroyed. I don't smoke weed idiot..I don't smoke anything or drink alcohol. We do have laws but I refuse to obey immoral or illegal laws that go against the constitution. I see no places in the constitution that gives the right for speed limits or seat belt laws or anything of that sort...that's just a small start...You call it immature I call it a yearning to be free to run my own life as I see fit as long as I do not harm others which I have never done.

Oh....My.....Fucking.....GOD!!!!

Where do you begin with someone this stupid, this immature? You've NEVER read the Constitution, yet you comment on it? What an embarassment to yourself, your family, and this great nation you are... Roll up another one, maaaaan...

First of all, automobiles did not exist during construction of the Constitution. Second, there is no amendment for it because it is NOT a RIGHT you ignorant, imbred fuck-tard. Driving is a privilege, and therefore, they can tell you to do whatever the fuck they want (deal with it, and GROW UP). Third, it's not a FEDERAL issue anyway, it is a STATE issue - and thus not a Constitutional issue, you stupid fuck.

You just proved you've never read the Constitution, yet here you sit like an asshole claiming you're some great champion of the Constitution. What you are is an immature, pot-smoking anarchist.....maaaaaaaaaaaan

 

[Dissent]

Yawn...I am just gonna enjoy your temper tantrums...there is no talking common sense into you so just gonna enjoy the show of stupidity.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Yawn...I am just gonna enjoy your temper tantrums...there is no talking common sense into you so just gonna enjoy the show of stupidity.

Common sense = Let the nation collapse under Obama as mechanism to force rebuilding as a Libertarian utopia ?

Come on now.

 

[Liability]

Come now.

What Dissent knows of common sense wouldn't fill the dimple in a thimble.

 

[tjvh]

Reluctantly Romney.

yup.

 

[P@triot]

What can I tell you? Four years after the financial sector meltdown, there's no way in hell I'm going to vote for a former private equity fund manager.

Oh, you mean the financial sector meltdown CREATED BY GOVERNMENT REGULATION? So, clearly you meant to say you're not going to vote for the GOVERNMENT REGULATION candidate, right?

For those of you like Mustang (ie ignorant of FACTS):

Bill Clinton created the financial meltdown with his 1997 "Community Reinvestment Act" which essentially forced banks to make loans to people who didn't qualify (see, in a free market, a bank is not going to lose money so they won't give loans to people who can't pay it back). But the socialist/communist/marxist dumbocrats who believe everyone is entitled to a house, even if they can't afford it, got invovled where they had no constitutional authority, and started the collapse.

Oncce people started getting behind on their homes, they started putting everything on their credit cards. Eventually, they would go bankrupt. This caused several things to happen: One, the banks wouldn't get paid back, so now they have to start laying off workers (which in turn went bankrupt on their mortgages, and so on), two, now with the original unqualified borrowers mixed with the new laid off employees of the banks, there were more homes on the market at bargain prices as banks tried to unload them. This caused the housing market to collapse.

With banks not getting paid back, credit cards maxed out because of the borrowers trying to stay afloat on their homes as long as poosible, the and housing market collapsing, the entire financial sector wasn't about to take a bath (and why should they, when it was the GOVERNMENT that FUCKED EVERYTHING UP - as usual). So they started packaging these bad loans as "investments" to ensure they could get as much of their money back as possible and let someone else eat the loss. The greedy investors (most often the dumbocrats who aren't willing to work for money and would rather go the "get-rich-quick-scheme" route) didn't bother to look at the investments properly, and they took a serious bath on the entire thing.

Those are the FACTS. But hey, just blame Mitt Romney and allow government regulation to keep doing the same catastrophic thing over and over. Maybe someday you'll wake up after you've experirenced the same cycle of failure enough. Then again, considering we're talking about dumbocrats, probably not. But it will be entertaining as hell to watch them bitch and then attempt to deflect the blame....

 

[Dissent]

Didn't say a Libertarian Utopia just a republic based on the constitution and a government if needed that sticks to the constitution STRICTLY.Obviously no one is paying attention...the dollar is collapsing,the economy is in the shits,our civil liberties continue to be destroyed...there isn't much left before the collapse happens.

 

[squeeze berry]

Well, it's very early obviously, but this is showing the exact kind of landslide we can expect in November - with Obama having a paltry 20% that even independents will receive...

This site is about 80% right wingers, what do you expect?

 

[Mustang]

What can I tell you? Four years after the financial sector meltdown, there's no way in hell I'm going to vote for a former private equity fund manager.

Oh, you mean the financial sector meltdown CREATED BY GOVERNMENT REGULATION? So, clearly you meant to say you're not going to vote for the GOVERNMENT REGULATION candidate, right?

For those of you like Mustang (ie ignorant of FACTS):

Bill Clinton created the financial meltdown with his 1997 "Community Reinvestment Act" which essentially forced banks to make loans to people who didn't qualify (see, in a free market, a bank is not going to lose money so they won't give loans to people who can't pay it back). But the socialist/communist/marxist dumbocrats who believe everyone is entitled to a house, even if they can't afford it, got invovled where they had no constitutional authority, and started the collapse.

Oncce people started getting behind on their homes, they started putting everything on their credit cards. Eventually, they would go bankrupt. This caused several things to happen: One, the banks wouldn't get paid back, so now they have to start laying off workers (which in turn went bankrupt on their mortgages, and so on), two, now with the original unqualified borrowers mixed with the new laid off employees of the banks, there were more homes on the market at bargain prices as banks tried to unload them. This caused the housing market to collapse.

With banks not getting paid back, credit cards maxed out because of the borrowers trying to stay afloat on their homes as long as poosible, the and housing market collapsing, the entire financial sector wasn't about to take a bath (and why should they, when it was the GOVERNMENT that FUCKED EVERYTHING UP - as usual). So they started packaging these bad loans as "investments" to ensure they could get as much of their money back as possible and let someone else eat the loss. The greedy investors (most often the dumbocrats who aren't willing to work for money and would rather go the "get-rich-quick-scheme" route) didn't bother to look at the investments properly, and they took a serious bath on the entire thing.

Those are the FACTS. But hey, just blame Mitt Romney and allow government regulation to keep doing the same catastrophic thing over and over. Maybe someday you'll wake up after you've experirenced the same cycle of failure enough. Then again, considering we're talking about dumbocrats, probably not. But it will be entertaining as hell to watch them bitch and then attempt to deflect the blame....

Utter nonsense. There are plenty of banks in this country that did NOT make risky loans. The simply CHOSE not to do so. They did not engage in speculation. They did not sell their mortgages on the secondary market (which means that they held on to whatever risk they underwrote). They even had policies against loaning money for mortgages to people who weren't planning to live in the houses as their primary residences.

You should do yourself a favor and stop latching on to propaganda which is little more than a feeble attempt to try to blame the gov't (a gov't run by a Democrat, of course) for every problem under the sun while simultaneously absolving Republican policies for any culpability.

 

[P@triot]

What can I tell you? Four years after the financial sector meltdown, there's no way in hell I'm going to vote for a former private equity fund manager.

Oh, you mean the financial sector meltdown CREATED BY GOVERNMENT REGULATION? So, clearly you meant to say you're not going to vote for the GOVERNMENT REGULATION candidate, right?

For those of you like Mustang (ie ignorant of FACTS):

Bill Clinton created the financial meltdown with his 1997 "Community Reinvestment Act" which essentially forced banks to make loans to people who didn't qualify (see, in a free market, a bank is not going to lose money so they won't give loans to people who can't pay it back). But the socialist/communist/marxist dumbocrats who believe everyone is entitled to a house, even if they can't afford it, got invovled where they had no constitutional authority, and started the collapse.

Oncce people started getting behind on their homes, they started putting everything on their credit cards. Eventually, they would go bankrupt. This caused several things to happen: One, the banks wouldn't get paid back, so now they have to start laying off workers (which in turn went bankrupt on their mortgages, and so on), two, now with the original unqualified borrowers mixed with the new laid off employees of the banks, there were more homes on the market at bargain prices as banks tried to unload them. This caused the housing market to collapse.

With banks not getting paid back, credit cards maxed out because of the borrowers trying to stay afloat on their homes as long as poosible, the and housing market collapsing, the entire financial sector wasn't about to take a bath (and why should they, when it was the GOVERNMENT that FUCKED EVERYTHING UP - as usual). So they started packaging these bad loans as "investments" to ensure they could get as much of their money back as possible and let someone else eat the loss. The greedy investors (most often the dumbocrats who aren't willing to work for money and would rather go the "get-rich-quick-scheme" route) didn't bother to look at the investments properly, and they took a serious bath on the entire thing.

Those are the FACTS. But hey, just blame Mitt Romney and allow government regulation to keep doing the same catastrophic thing over and over. Maybe someday you'll wake up after you've experirenced the same cycle of failure enough. Then again, considering we're talking about dumbocrats, probably not. But it will be entertaining as hell to watch them bitch and then attempt to deflect the blame....

Utter nonsense. There are plenty of banks in this country that did NOT make risky loans. The simply CHOSE not to do so. They did not engage in speculation. They did not sell their mortgages on the secondary market (which means that they held on to whatever risk they underwrote). They even had policies against loaning money for mortgages to people who weren't planning to live in the houses as their primary residences.

You should do yourself a favor and stop latching on to propaganda which is little more than a feeble attempt to try to blame the gov't (a gov't run by a Democrat, of course) for every problem under the sun while simultaneously absolving Republican policies for any culpability.

It's 100% accurate and you know it. However, unlike you, I do NOT "absolve" the Republican's of anything. I've bashed Bush for the mistakes he made.

The difference is, the GOP doesn't often stick it's nose in private industry (unless it is to deregulate a FUCK up by the dumbocrats) so there isn't as many opportunities to blame them for the economy as there is the dumbocrats.

It's too bad you can't be as obective and acknowledge an earth-shattering fuck up by Bill Clinton that sent our entire economy spiralling out of control.

And by the way stupid, that didn't come from any "propaganda". I told EVERYONE back in '97 that this would happen and that we would feel the effects of the Clinton socialism for decades. Sadly, Obama is far worse and I've already predicted we will feel the effects of Obama for over a century (if we EVER get over his incompetence). I was right on Clinton - mark it down now that I'm right on Obama.