US Sanctions Leave Millions of Venezuelans Without Water

[Dekster]

“All week long you see people carrying water by here. Saturdays and Sundays, in particular, when people are off from work.”

Here’s the problem. The pump needed to push the water up the hill and into their home. Well, it’s broken. And U.S. sanctions are blocking the country from acquiring new pumps, motors, pipes and replacement parts.

US Sanctions Leave Millions of Venezuelans Without Water



Does this president even know what sanctions are ?
I don't even think he really wanted to be president, to be perfectly honest. It appears that Donald Trump is learning as he goes, like on-the-job training. ( He's like Joe Pesci in My Cousin Vinnie) He should have taken lessons from Obama on teleprompter reading , that's for sure.

Venezuela as strict restrictions on foreign purchases and money transfers. The problem is not US sanctions. The problem is their currency is worthless due to their own government policies.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

That's not even a good spin/misrepresentation on what I was saying, dayamn!!!!

It is even exactly what you said.

I never once said Russia was responsible for the sanctions.
Recap;
US puts sanctions on Venezuela.
Russia can and will when it suits their purpose completely ignore those sanctions.
If Maduro doesn't ask fro Russia or China's help in this matter then are the ignored sanctions to blame? No.......
If Russia and Venezuela are deliberately holding up the shipment of pumps for propaganda reasonsthen it's obvious who's at fault for no

No I didn't, it's how you're interpreting what I said. Are you doing it on purpose or are you that stupid?

In that case you need to elaborate on this statement:
"If Venezuela is suffering from our sanctions it's Russia's fault for not stepping up to the plate or Venezuela's fault for not asking for Russian help."

Yeah but that doesn't make Russia responsible for the sanctions which is what you apparently implied and that the sanctions are to blame.
So instead of doing the obvious and taking what I said out of context let's recap what I was referring to;

US puts sanctions on Venezuela.
Russia can and will, when it suits their purpose, completely ignore those sanctions.
If Maduro doesn't ask for Russia or China's help in this matter then are the ignored sanctions to blame? No.......
If Russia and Venezuela are deliberately holding up the shipment of pumps for propaganda reasons then it's obvious who's at fault for not getting the pumps to the people who need them..... Not the US......

No, they cannot. The sanctions are extensive and even hit the bank card system so that Venezuela´s banks now have to create an own. They aim at the total destruction of Venezuela.
Only the effective measures of Maduro´s government prevent the worst case.

Wow!! You truly are gullible...... Or a tool....... All of that can be bypassed but Venezuela's allies.......

So if that is true what you claim, what is the purpose of Trump? Driving Venezuela into the arms of Russia and China?

to late
the russians and chicoms theyve already been there done that

russia sent a plane and special forces to pick up back payments on loans
good thing the greasy losers were hoarding all that gold or Putin would of been pissed

 

[Bleipriester]

It is even exactly what you said.

I never once said Russia was responsible for the sanctions.
Recap;
US puts sanctions on Venezuela.
Russia can and will when it suits their purpose completely ignore those sanctions.
If Maduro doesn't ask fro Russia or China's help in this matter then are the ignored sanctions to blame? No.......
If Russia and Venezuela are deliberately holding up the shipment of pumps for propaganda reasonsthen it's obvious who's at fault for no

In that case you need to elaborate on this statement:
"If Venezuela is suffering from our sanctions it's Russia's fault for not stepping up to the plate or Venezuela's fault for not asking for Russian help."

Yeah but that doesn't make Russia responsible for the sanctions which is what you apparently implied and that the sanctions are to blame.
So instead of doing the obvious and taking what I said out of context let's recap what I was referring to;

US puts sanctions on Venezuela.
Russia can and will, when it suits their purpose, completely ignore those sanctions.
If Maduro doesn't ask for Russia or China's help in this matter then are the ignored sanctions to blame? No.......
If Russia and Venezuela are deliberately holding up the shipment of pumps for propaganda reasons then it's obvious who's at fault for not getting the pumps to the people who need them..... Not the US......

No, they cannot. The sanctions are extensive and even hit the bank card system so that Venezuela´s banks now have to create an own. They aim at the total destruction of Venezuela.
Only the effective measures of Maduro´s government prevent the worst case.

Wow!! You truly are gullible...... Or a tool....... All of that can be bypassed but Venezuela's allies.......

So if that is true what you claim, what is the purpose of Trump? Driving Venezuela into the arms of Russia and China?

I'm assuming not in his mind, but then again I can only assume, unlike you I can't read his mind.........

You don´t need to read his mind. He is willing to kill millions of Venezuelans to get his filthy fingers on their oil.

 

[Bleipriester]

It is even exactly what you said.

I never once said Russia was responsible for the sanctions.
Recap;
US puts sanctions on Venezuela.
Russia can and will when it suits their purpose completely ignore those sanctions.
If Maduro doesn't ask fro Russia or China's help in this matter then are the ignored sanctions to blame? No.......
If Russia and Venezuela are deliberately holding up the shipment of pumps for propaganda reasonsthen it's obvious who's at fault for no

In that case you need to elaborate on this statement:
"If Venezuela is suffering from our sanctions it's Russia's fault for not stepping up to the plate or Venezuela's fault for not asking for Russian help."

Yeah but that doesn't make Russia responsible for the sanctions which is what you apparently implied and that the sanctions are to blame.
So instead of doing the obvious and taking what I said out of context let's recap what I was referring to;

US puts sanctions on Venezuela.
Russia can and will, when it suits their purpose, completely ignore those sanctions.
If Maduro doesn't ask for Russia or China's help in this matter then are the ignored sanctions to blame? No.......
If Russia and Venezuela are deliberately holding up the shipment of pumps for propaganda reasons then it's obvious who's at fault for not getting the pumps to the people who need them..... Not the US......

No, they cannot. The sanctions are extensive and even hit the bank card system so that Venezuela´s banks now have to create an own. They aim at the total destruction of Venezuela.
Only the effective measures of Maduro´s government prevent the worst case.

The sanctions are extensive and even hit the bank card system so that Venezuela´s banks now have to create an own.

Sounds awful! So post the sanction that blocks importation of water pumps.

Only the effective measures of Maduro´s government prevent the worst case.

The ineffective measures (and corruption) of Maduro´s government are the worst case.

I don´t have such a claim.

You weren't fooled by Angelo's lying OP?

I wouldn´t call it a lie. There don´t have to be pump sanctions to link the misery to Washington´s actions.
However, my news are serious! I am not blaming your government for the purpose of the blame.

 

[Bleipriester]

It is even exactly what you said.

I never once said Russia was responsible for the sanctions.
Recap;
US puts sanctions on Venezuela.
Russia can and will when it suits their purpose completely ignore those sanctions.
If Maduro doesn't ask fro Russia or China's help in this matter then are the ignored sanctions to blame? No.......
If Russia and Venezuela are deliberately holding up the shipment of pumps for propaganda reasonsthen it's obvious who's at fault for no

In that case you need to elaborate on this statement:
"If Venezuela is suffering from our sanctions it's Russia's fault for not stepping up to the plate or Venezuela's fault for not asking for Russian help."

Yeah but that doesn't make Russia responsible for the sanctions which is what you apparently implied and that the sanctions are to blame.
So instead of doing the obvious and taking what I said out of context let's recap what I was referring to;

US puts sanctions on Venezuela.
Russia can and will, when it suits their purpose, completely ignore those sanctions.
If Maduro doesn't ask for Russia or China's help in this matter then are the ignored sanctions to blame? No.......
If Russia and Venezuela are deliberately holding up the shipment of pumps for propaganda reasons then it's obvious who's at fault for not getting the pumps to the people who need them..... Not the US......

No, they cannot. The sanctions are extensive and even hit the bank card system so that Venezuela´s banks now have to create an own. They aim at the total destruction of Venezuela.
Only the effective measures of Maduro´s government prevent the worst case.

Wow!! You truly are gullible...... Or a tool....... All of that can be bypassed but Venezuela's allies.......

So if that is true what you claim, what is the purpose of Trump? Driving Venezuela into the arms of Russia and China?

to late
the russians and chicoms theyve already been there done that

russia sent a plane and special forces to pick up back payments on loans
good thing the greasy losers were hoarding all that gold or Putin would of been pissed

Actually, Venezuela´s gold, I mean that gold that was not stolen by the Bank of England, is going to Turkey for processing. But Russia has recently declared that Venezuela is paying up and not at the last moment.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I never once said Russia was responsible for the sanctions.
Recap;
US puts sanctions on Venezuela.
Russia can and will when it suits their purpose completely ignore those sanctions.
If Maduro doesn't ask fro Russia or China's help in this matter then are the ignored sanctions to blame? No.......
If Russia and Venezuela are deliberately holding up the shipment of pumps for propaganda reasonsthen it's obvious who's at fault for no
Yeah but that doesn't make Russia responsible for the sanctions which is what you apparently implied and that the sanctions are to blame.
So instead of doing the obvious and taking what I said out of context let's recap what I was referring to;

US puts sanctions on Venezuela.
Russia can and will, when it suits their purpose, completely ignore those sanctions.
If Maduro doesn't ask for Russia or China's help in this matter then are the ignored sanctions to blame? No.......
If Russia and Venezuela are deliberately holding up the shipment of pumps for propaganda reasons then it's obvious who's at fault for not getting the pumps to the people who need them..... Not the US......

No, they cannot. The sanctions are extensive and even hit the bank card system so that Venezuela´s banks now have to create an own. They aim at the total destruction of Venezuela.
Only the effective measures of Maduro´s government prevent the worst case.

The sanctions are extensive and even hit the bank card system so that Venezuela´s banks now have to create an own.

Sounds awful! So post the sanction that blocks importation of water pumps.

Only the effective measures of Maduro´s government prevent the worst case.

The ineffective measures (and corruption) of Maduro´s government are the worst case.

I don´t have such a claim.

You weren't fooled by Angelo's lying OP?

I wouldn´t call it a lie. There don´t have to be pump sanctions to link the misery to Washington´s actions.
However, my news are serious! I am not blaming your government for the purpose of the blame.

I wouldn´t call it a lie.

The pump needed to push the water up the hill and into their home. Well, it’s broken. And U.S. sanctions are blocking the country from acquiring new pumps, motors, pipes and replacement parts.

Which part is true?

 

[georgephillip]

So let me ask you..... If Trump decided that having the Democrats controlling congress right now, was a threat to his power, and decided to create a new governing body to replace Congress... stacked with pro-Trump Republicans.......

Would you be defending him? Would you be complaining if the international community put up sanctions against him?

Or.... are you a scum sucking bit of human trash Hypocrite?

Just curious.

You need to go back
and ask yourself
what the fuck you are talking about . Guaido is an IMF puppet. Period.
What part of my OP do you not comprehend ?

You seem to be confused on how this came about.

The elections put in a sweeping majority in the Venezuelan National Assembly. Maduro unconstitutionally created a new National Constituent Assembly. Then the unconstitutional Pro-Maduro NCA, stripped power from the constitutional opposition National Assembly.

This is about as clear of an example of a total dictatorship, as one could possibly imagine. The will of the people has been completely overthrown.

The opposition National Assembly that was elected by the people, then declared, in accordance with their constitution, that Maduro was a usurper. It was the National Assembly, elected by the people, that declared Guaidó the intern president.

Where do you see the US in any of that? You don't. There is no information or evidence, suggesting that the US was involved in any of this.

Where do you see the US in any of that? You don't. There is no information or evidence, suggesting that the US was involved in any of this.

It's difficult to find evidence supporting the claim the US has NOT regularly meddled in the political affairs of countries like Venezuela, and it hasn't improved since Trump took over:

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/worl...istration-is-meddling-in-venezuelas-elections

"According to a source with knowledge of the matter, the leading opposition contender for Venezuela's May presidential election, Henri Falcón, was told by U.S. officials that the Trump administration would consider financial sanctions against him if he entered the presidential race. (The U.S. State Department did not return requests for comment.)

"The U.S. has backed the main opposition coalition decision to boycott the election.

"Falcón is a former governor and retired military officer. He is leading in the latest polls, and according to the most reliable opposition pollster, would defeat Maduro in the election by a margin of nearly 7 percentage points."

And that's it? That's all you got?

In the 1960s, JFK trained and armed a bunch of guys, and dropped them off at Cuba.

And your big beef with Trump on this, is that he said he would consider financial sanction if he ran against Maduro?

Big deal. Every country does stuff like this. The EU has weighted in on the election in Venezuela. Russia has weighted in.

Now if you can point to Trump doing something like send shipments of heavy weapons, like the Soviets did in Chili.... ok, now I'm with you.

But Trump has not done that, and you know I both know it.

Show me some real 'meddling' and I'll be on your side of this argument.

However, this doesn't even address what I was talking about. The claim has been made, that everything that is going on in Venezuela is our fault. Saying that we might do something, if so-and-so runs in the election, would not have caused everything that has happened up till now.

And your big beef with Trump on this, is that he said he would consider financial sanction if he ran against Maduro?

Big deal. Every country does stuff like this. The EU has weighted in on the election in Venezuela. Russia has weighted in.

Now if you can point to Trump doing something like send shipments of heavy weapons, like the Soviets did in Chili.... ok, now I'm with you

Illegal financial sanctions are an act of war, and they take innocent lives just as shipments of US heavy weapons to Saudi Arabia and Israel exterminate civilians in Yemen and Palestine.

"Following Guaido's self-proclamation on January 23, the US also hit PDVSA, Venezuela's state-owned oil company, with sweeping sanctions designed to result in billions of dollars of last export revenue over the next year, and help 'restore … democracy' in Venezuela.

"But some experts argue that the US government has no interest in protecting democracy or improving the humanitarian crisis in Venezuela, and is mostly concerned with taking control of the oil market and maintaining US influence in Latin America. "

Sanctions, Venezuela, and US intentions

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

So let me ask you..... If Trump decided that having the Democrats controlling congress right now, was a threat to his power, and decided to create a new governing body to replace Congress... stacked with pro-Trump Republicans.......

Would you be defending him? Would you be complaining if the international community put up sanctions against him?

Or.... are you a scum sucking bit of human trash Hypocrite?

Just curious.

You need to go back
and ask yourself
what the fuck you are talking about . Guaido is an IMF puppet. Period.
What part of my OP do you not comprehend ?

You seem to be confused on how this came about.

The elections put in a sweeping majority in the Venezuelan National Assembly. Maduro unconstitutionally created a new National Constituent Assembly. Then the unconstitutional Pro-Maduro NCA, stripped power from the constitutional opposition National Assembly.

This is about as clear of an example of a total dictatorship, as one could possibly imagine. The will of the people has been completely overthrown.

The opposition National Assembly that was elected by the people, then declared, in accordance with their constitution, that Maduro was a usurper. It was the National Assembly, elected by the people, that declared Guaidó the intern president.

Where do you see the US in any of that? You don't. There is no information or evidence, suggesting that the US was involved in any of this.

Where do you see the US in any of that? You don't. There is no information or evidence, suggesting that the US was involved in any of this.

It's difficult to find evidence supporting the claim the US has NOT regularly meddled in the political affairs of countries like Venezuela, and it hasn't improved since Trump took over:

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/worl...istration-is-meddling-in-venezuelas-elections

"According to a source with knowledge of the matter, the leading opposition contender for Venezuela's May presidential election, Henri Falcón, was told by U.S. officials that the Trump administration would consider financial sanctions against him if he entered the presidential race. (The U.S. State Department did not return requests for comment.)

"The U.S. has backed the main opposition coalition decision to boycott the election.

"Falcón is a former governor and retired military officer. He is leading in the latest polls, and according to the most reliable opposition pollster, would defeat Maduro in the election by a margin of nearly 7 percentage points."

And that's it? That's all you got?

In the 1960s, JFK trained and armed a bunch of guys, and dropped them off at Cuba.

And your big beef with Trump on this, is that he said he would consider financial sanction if he ran against Maduro?

Big deal. Every country does stuff like this. The EU has weighted in on the election in Venezuela. Russia has weighted in.

Now if you can point to Trump doing something like send shipments of heavy weapons, like the Soviets did in Chili.... ok, now I'm with you.

But Trump has not done that, and you know I both know it.

Show me some real 'meddling' and I'll be on your side of this argument.

However, this doesn't even address what I was talking about. The claim has been made, that everything that is going on in Venezuela is our fault. Saying that we might do something, if so-and-so runs in the election, would not have caused everything that has happened up till now.

And your big beef with Trump on this, is that he said he would consider financial sanction if he ran against Maduro?

Big deal. Every country does stuff like this. The EU has weighted in on the election in Venezuela. Russia has weighted in.

Now if you can point to Trump doing something like send shipments of heavy weapons, like the Soviets did in Chili.... ok, now I'm with you

Illegal financial sanctions are an act of war, and they take innocent lives just as shipments of US heavy weapons to Saudi Arabia and Israel exterminate civilians in Yemen and Palestine.

"Following Guaido's self-proclamation on January 23, the US also hit PDVSA, Venezuela's state-owned oil company, with sweeping sanctions designed to result in billions of dollars of last export revenue over the next year, and help 'restore … democracy' in Venezuela.

"But some experts argue that the US government has no interest in protecting democracy or improving the humanitarian crisis in Venezuela, and is mostly concerned with taking control of the oil market and maintaining US influence in Latin America. "

Sanctions, Venezuela, and US intentions

Illegal financial sanctions are an act of war,

LOL!

Hey, shithead, you can't use the Fed wire system.
It belongs to the US. Screw you. Moron.

 

[Ringel05]

I never once said Russia was responsible for the sanctions.
Recap;
US puts sanctions on Venezuela.
Russia can and will when it suits their purpose completely ignore those sanctions.
If Maduro doesn't ask fro Russia or China's help in this matter then are the ignored sanctions to blame? No.......
If Russia and Venezuela are deliberately holding up the shipment of pumps for propaganda reasonsthen it's obvious who's at fault for no
Yeah but that doesn't make Russia responsible for the sanctions which is what you apparently implied and that the sanctions are to blame.
So instead of doing the obvious and taking what I said out of context let's recap what I was referring to;

US puts sanctions on Venezuela.
Russia can and will, when it suits their purpose, completely ignore those sanctions.
If Maduro doesn't ask for Russia or China's help in this matter then are the ignored sanctions to blame? No.......
If Russia and Venezuela are deliberately holding up the shipment of pumps for propaganda reasons then it's obvious who's at fault for not getting the pumps to the people who need them..... Not the US......

No, they cannot. The sanctions are extensive and even hit the bank card system so that Venezuela´s banks now have to create an own. They aim at the total destruction of Venezuela.
Only the effective measures of Maduro´s government prevent the worst case.

Wow!! You truly are gullible...... Or a tool....... All of that can be bypassed but Venezuela's allies.......

So if that is true what you claim, what is the purpose of Trump? Driving Venezuela into the arms of Russia and China?

I'm assuming not in his mind, but then again I can only assume, unlike you I can't read his mind.........

You don´t need to read his mind. He is willing to kill millions of Venezuelans to get his filthy fingers on their oil.

Sure thing there Sparkette.......

 

[georgephillip]

You need to go back
and ask yourself
what the fuck you are talking about . Guaido is an IMF puppet. Period.
What part of my OP do you not comprehend ?

You seem to be confused on how this came about.

The elections put in a sweeping majority in the Venezuelan National Assembly. Maduro unconstitutionally created a new National Constituent Assembly. Then the unconstitutional Pro-Maduro NCA, stripped power from the constitutional opposition National Assembly.

This is about as clear of an example of a total dictatorship, as one could possibly imagine. The will of the people has been completely overthrown.

The opposition National Assembly that was elected by the people, then declared, in accordance with their constitution, that Maduro was a usurper. It was the National Assembly, elected by the people, that declared Guaidó the intern president.

Where do you see the US in any of that? You don't. There is no information or evidence, suggesting that the US was involved in any of this.

Where do you see the US in any of that? You don't. There is no information or evidence, suggesting that the US was involved in any of this.

It's difficult to find evidence supporting the claim the US has NOT regularly meddled in the political affairs of countries like Venezuela, and it hasn't improved since Trump took over:

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/worl...istration-is-meddling-in-venezuelas-elections

"According to a source with knowledge of the matter, the leading opposition contender for Venezuela's May presidential election, Henri Falcón, was told by U.S. officials that the Trump administration would consider financial sanctions against him if he entered the presidential race. (The U.S. State Department did not return requests for comment.)

"The U.S. has backed the main opposition coalition decision to boycott the election.

"Falcón is a former governor and retired military officer. He is leading in the latest polls, and according to the most reliable opposition pollster, would defeat Maduro in the election by a margin of nearly 7 percentage points."

And that's it? That's all you got?

In the 1960s, JFK trained and armed a bunch of guys, and dropped them off at Cuba.

And your big beef with Trump on this, is that he said he would consider financial sanction if he ran against Maduro?

Big deal. Every country does stuff like this. The EU has weighted in on the election in Venezuela. Russia has weighted in.

Now if you can point to Trump doing something like send shipments of heavy weapons, like the Soviets did in Chili.... ok, now I'm with you.

But Trump has not done that, and you know I both know it.

Show me some real 'meddling' and I'll be on your side of this argument.

However, this doesn't even address what I was talking about. The claim has been made, that everything that is going on in Venezuela is our fault. Saying that we might do something, if so-and-so runs in the election, would not have caused everything that has happened up till now.

And your big beef with Trump on this, is that he said he would consider financial sanction if he ran against Maduro?

Big deal. Every country does stuff like this. The EU has weighted in on the election in Venezuela. Russia has weighted in.

Now if you can point to Trump doing something like send shipments of heavy weapons, like the Soviets did in Chili.... ok, now I'm with you

Illegal financial sanctions are an act of war, and they take innocent lives just as shipments of US heavy weapons to Saudi Arabia and Israel exterminate civilians in Yemen and Palestine.

"Following Guaido's self-proclamation on January 23, the US also hit PDVSA, Venezuela's state-owned oil company, with sweeping sanctions designed to result in billions of dollars of last export revenue over the next year, and help 'restore … democracy' in Venezuela.

"But some experts argue that the US government has no interest in protecting democracy or improving the humanitarian crisis in Venezuela, and is mostly concerned with taking control of the oil market and maintaining US influence in Latin America. "

Sanctions, Venezuela, and US intentions

Illegal financial sanctions are an act of war,

LOL!

Hey, shithead, you can't use the Fed wire system.
It belongs to the US. Screw you. Moron.

Hey, shithead, you can't use the Fed wire system.
It belongs to the US. Screw you. Moron.

Act of War, Twinkie.
Will you be enlisting?
If so, take Trump with you.

Sanctions, Venezuela, and US intentions

"The sanctions on PDVSA freeze the company's assets in the US, as well as prohibits US firms and citizens from conducting business with PDVSA. According to the Treasury Department's guidance, purchases can be made from PDVSA or its entities until April 28 provided that the payments are made into a blocked account that Maduro's government cannot access. After that date, no purchases can be made. The sanctions also target key individuals linked to Maduro, including Quevedo."

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Look how many people jump up to give cover to a sadistic authoritarian dictator who has ruined an entire nation.
Anonymity gives courage to amoral asses.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You seem to be confused on how this came about.

The elections put in a sweeping majority in the Venezuelan National Assembly. Maduro unconstitutionally created a new National Constituent Assembly. Then the unconstitutional Pro-Maduro NCA, stripped power from the constitutional opposition National Assembly.

This is about as clear of an example of a total dictatorship, as one could possibly imagine. The will of the people has been completely overthrown.

The opposition National Assembly that was elected by the people, then declared, in accordance with their constitution, that Maduro was a usurper. It was the National Assembly, elected by the people, that declared Guaidó the intern president.

Where do you see the US in any of that? You don't. There is no information or evidence, suggesting that the US was involved in any of this.

Where do you see the US in any of that? You don't. There is no information or evidence, suggesting that the US was involved in any of this.

It's difficult to find evidence supporting the claim the US has NOT regularly meddled in the political affairs of countries like Venezuela, and it hasn't improved since Trump took over:

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/worl...istration-is-meddling-in-venezuelas-elections

"According to a source with knowledge of the matter, the leading opposition contender for Venezuela's May presidential election, Henri Falcón, was told by U.S. officials that the Trump administration would consider financial sanctions against him if he entered the presidential race. (The U.S. State Department did not return requests for comment.)

"The U.S. has backed the main opposition coalition decision to boycott the election.

"Falcón is a former governor and retired military officer. He is leading in the latest polls, and according to the most reliable opposition pollster, would defeat Maduro in the election by a margin of nearly 7 percentage points."

And that's it? That's all you got?

In the 1960s, JFK trained and armed a bunch of guys, and dropped them off at Cuba.

And your big beef with Trump on this, is that he said he would consider financial sanction if he ran against Maduro?

Big deal. Every country does stuff like this. The EU has weighted in on the election in Venezuela. Russia has weighted in.

Now if you can point to Trump doing something like send shipments of heavy weapons, like the Soviets did in Chili.... ok, now I'm with you.

But Trump has not done that, and you know I both know it.

Show me some real 'meddling' and I'll be on your side of this argument.

However, this doesn't even address what I was talking about. The claim has been made, that everything that is going on in Venezuela is our fault. Saying that we might do something, if so-and-so runs in the election, would not have caused everything that has happened up till now.

And your big beef with Trump on this, is that he said he would consider financial sanction if he ran against Maduro?

Big deal. Every country does stuff like this. The EU has weighted in on the election in Venezuela. Russia has weighted in.

Now if you can point to Trump doing something like send shipments of heavy weapons, like the Soviets did in Chili.... ok, now I'm with you

Illegal financial sanctions are an act of war, and they take innocent lives just as shipments of US heavy weapons to Saudi Arabia and Israel exterminate civilians in Yemen and Palestine.

"Following Guaido's self-proclamation on January 23, the US also hit PDVSA, Venezuela's state-owned oil company, with sweeping sanctions designed to result in billions of dollars of last export revenue over the next year, and help 'restore … democracy' in Venezuela.

"But some experts argue that the US government has no interest in protecting democracy or improving the humanitarian crisis in Venezuela, and is mostly concerned with taking control of the oil market and maintaining US influence in Latin America. "

Sanctions, Venezuela, and US intentions

Illegal financial sanctions are an act of war,

LOL!

Hey, shithead, you can't use the Fed wire system.
It belongs to the US. Screw you. Moron.

Hey, shithead, you can't use the Fed wire system.
It belongs to the US. Screw you. Moron.

Act of War, Twinkie.
Will you be enlisting?
If so, take Trump with you.

Sanctions, Venezuela, and US intentions

"The sanctions on PDVSA freeze the company's assets in the US, as well as prohibits US firms and citizens from conducting business with PDVSA. According to the Treasury Department's guidance, purchases can be made from PDVSA or its entities until April 28 provided that the payments are made into a blocked account that Maduro's government cannot access. After that date, no purchases can be made. The sanctions also target key individuals linked to Maduro, including Quevedo."

Act of War, Twinkie.

Stupid claim, Twat.

"The sanctions on PDVSA freeze the company's assets in the US, as well as prohibits US firms and citizens from conducting business with PDVSA

Fuckin' A!

The sanctions also target key individuals linked to Maduro, including Quevedo.

Oh no! The bad guys and their henchmen are being sanctioned.
Still no proof that water pumps are prohibited. Because liars lie, eh comrade?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Haha....again you can't make this stuff up.
The entertainment value of USMB knows no bounds.
US Sanctions are reason dilapidated/poorly maintained water pumps failed and no new ones anywhere in country.

Hilarious.

 

[Kilroy2]

What scary is the presumption that by using sanctions you can bring about political change when there is no guarantee that the next guy will do better

Yeah you can say he will do no worst but where does the power lie

is it in one person or is it with whomever is paying his bills, the system in place is corrupt

sure the guy needs to go but when you have Putin and Cubans involved on one side and Trump on the other

its not going to be pretty, foreign influence is not the answer, the people of that country need to take care of there own problems

Proxy wars are no fun but with foreign involvement the death tow will be higher

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What scary is the presumption that by using sanctions you can bring about political change when there is no guarantee that the next guy will do better

Yeah you can say he will do no worst but where does the power lie

is it in one person or is it with whomever is paying his bills, they system in place is corrupt

sure the guy needs to go but when you have Putin and Cubans involved on one side and Trump on the other

its not going to be pretty, foreign influence is not the answer, the people of that country need to take care of there own problems

Proxy wars are no fun but with foreign involvement the death tow will be higher

What scary is the presumption that by using sanctions you can bring about political change when there is no guarantee that the next guy will do better

Under Maduro, the average Venezuelan lost 24 pounds in 2017.
At the very least, getting rid of Maduro could feed 5 or 6 children.

Just look at the fat fuck.

 

[Bleipriester]

No, they cannot. The sanctions are extensive and even hit the bank card system so that Venezuela´s banks now have to create an own. They aim at the total destruction of Venezuela.
Only the effective measures of Maduro´s government prevent the worst case.

The sanctions are extensive and even hit the bank card system so that Venezuela´s banks now have to create an own.

Sounds awful! So post the sanction that blocks importation of water pumps.

Only the effective measures of Maduro´s government prevent the worst case.

The ineffective measures (and corruption) of Maduro´s government are the worst case.

I don´t have such a claim.

You weren't fooled by Angelo's lying OP?

I wouldn´t call it a lie. There don´t have to be pump sanctions to link the misery to Washington´s actions.
However, my news are serious! I am not blaming your government for the purpose of the blame.

I wouldn´t call it a lie.

The pump needed to push the water up the hill and into their home. Well, it’s broken. And U.S. sanctions are blocking the country from acquiring new pumps, motors, pipes and replacement parts.

Which part is true?

IDK.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The sanctions are extensive and even hit the bank card system so that Venezuela´s banks now have to create an own.

Sounds awful! So post the sanction that blocks importation of water pumps.

Only the effective measures of Maduro´s government prevent the worst case.

The ineffective measures (and corruption) of Maduro´s government are the worst case.

I don´t have such a claim.

You weren't fooled by Angelo's lying OP?

I wouldn´t call it a lie. There don´t have to be pump sanctions to link the misery to Washington´s actions.
However, my news are serious! I am not blaming your government for the purpose of the blame.

I wouldn´t call it a lie.

The pump needed to push the water up the hill and into their home. Well, it’s broken. And U.S. sanctions are blocking the country from acquiring new pumps, motors, pipes and replacement parts.

Which part is true?

IDK.

So you lied when you said the OP wasn't a lie.

 

[Bleipriester]

I don´t have such a claim.

You weren't fooled by Angelo's lying OP?

I wouldn´t call it a lie. There don´t have to be pump sanctions to link the misery to Washington´s actions.
However, my news are serious! I am not blaming your government for the purpose of the blame.

I wouldn´t call it a lie.

The pump needed to push the water up the hill and into their home. Well, it’s broken. And U.S. sanctions are blocking the country from acquiring new pumps, motors, pipes and replacement parts.

Which part is true?

IDK.

So you lied when you said the OP wasn't a lie.

No. When I break someone´s neck, it is not a lie to say he can´t piss anymore because of me.

 

[georgephillip]

What scary is the presumption that by using sanctions you can bring about political change when there is no guarantee that the next guy will do better

Yeah you can say he will do no worst but where does the power lie

is it in one person or is it with whomever is paying his bills, they system in place is corrupt

sure the guy needs to go but when you have Putin and Cubans involved on one side and Trump on the other

its not going to be pretty, foreign influence is not the answer, the people of that country need to take care of there own problems

Proxy wars are no fun but with foreign involvement the death tow will be higher

What scary is the presumption that by using sanctions you can bring about political change when there is no guarantee that the next guy will do better

Under Maduro, the average Venezuelan lost 24 pounds in 2017.
At the very least, getting rid of Maduro could feed 5 or 6 children.

Just look at the fat fuck.

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Under Maduro, the average Venezuelan lost 24 pounds in 2017.
At the very least, getting rid of Maduro could feed 5 or 6 children.

Just look at the fat fuck.

Getting back to your roots, Twink?

Cannibal Capitalism - The Big Picture
Maybe you and Trump would find the menu more appealing in Moscow?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

What scary is the presumption that by using sanctions you can bring about political change when there is no guarantee that the next guy will do better

Yeah you can say he will do no worst but where does the power lie

is it in one person or is it with whomever is paying his bills, they system in place is corrupt

sure the guy needs to go but when you have Putin and Cubans involved on one side and Trump on the other

its not going to be pretty, foreign influence is not the answer, the people of that country need to take care of there own problems

Proxy wars are no fun but with foreign involvement the death tow will be higher

What scary is the presumption that by using sanctions you can bring about political change when there is no guarantee that the next guy will do better

Under Maduro, the average Venezuelan lost 24 pounds in 2017.
At the very least, getting rid of Maduro could feed 5 or 6 children.

Just look at the fat fuck.

View attachment 262847

Under Maduro, the average Venezuelan lost 24 pounds in 2017.
At the very least, getting rid of Maduro could feed 5 or 6 children.

Just look at the fat fuck.

Getting back to your roots, Twink?

Cannibal Capitalism - The Big Picture
Maybe you and Trump would find the menu more appealing in Moscow?

Maduro is fat because.....JP Morgan, Goldman and BofA? DURR