US Gives Israel $10,000,000.a Day

[Hossfly]

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Nothing wrong with that. In fact, we should double it.

This is the mindset of the sickness ingrained in American Society,children starving,veterans homeless,but we must make sure the terrorist state gets 10 million a day to commit genocide against kids throwing rocks at tanks.

Damn then. Triple it!

I hope Trump deports all anti American scum like you do Gaza...that's where you belong. Your loyalty isn't with America or Americans you can take your bible thumping jew loving ass to Israel.

Buddy, my family members have been in the American military before it was a country. One day we will dispose of every Progressive Liberal puke in the country. One way or another.

Yes yes of course you will you only give a shit about veterans when they are cannon fodder for Israels fucking wars for oil and control of the middle east ya know who gives a shit that that 10 MILLION a day going to Israhell could employ,house and get medical help EVERY fucking veteran in America that needs it. You are a scumbag.

You, my amigo, have about as much knowledge of world affairs as my pet frog.

 

[SmokeALib]

One nation, under God. Our country was founded on Christianity. Unless you are a Christian and have read and understood the Bible, you probably won't understand this country's unwavering support of Isreal.

 

[aris2chat]

give?? Some is economic, most is military. It is a combination of bank guarantees, loans, grants and other aid. 75% is to be spent in the US, so it also help to stimulate the US economy.

US does not just hand Israel that much money, and I think 10 million is a bit high, I thought is was more around 8 million

I might seem high but US aid amounts to 35 billion and Israel only gets around 3 billion of that. It is not a gift.

When most of that 3 billion is not tax payer money it is not such a great amount.

Afghanistan get a billion
Jordan about the same
Pakistan
Egypt 1.5 B
Ethiopia, Uganda, Tanzania, S.Africa each get .5 B
Nigeria .7 B
Mexico, DRC, Columbia, Somalia, S.Sudan, Bangladesh, Haiti each around .3 B
Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Senegal, Ivory coast, Liberia, Mali, Ghana, Malawi, Zimbabwe, Syria, Lebanon, India are all around the .15 - .2 B ranger
And there are at least 2 dozen more countries that get various amounts including Malta and Portugal

Palestinians get around 4.5 B in aid and donations from the US, plus 1.6 B from the UN (which is mostly funded by the US), .25 B each from the EU and Saudi
1,100,000,000 from other sources

So how does 3 B for Israel seem like such a lot?

 

[SwimExpert]

Well, instead of giving hundred of billions a year to countries that hate our guts - I would suggest that we maintain good relations with the ONLY ally we have in the Middle East.

We don't have an ally in the Middle East.

 

[Hossfly]

give?? Some is economic, most is military. It is a combination of bank guarantees, loans, grants and other aid. 75% is to be spent in the US, so it also help to stimulate the US economy.

US does not just hand Israel that much money, and I think 10 million is a bit high, I thought is was more around 8 million

I might seem high but US aid amounts to 35 billion and Israel only gets around 3 billion of that. It is not a gift.

When most of that 3 billion is not tax payer money it is not such a great amount.

Afghanistan get a billion
Jordan about the same
Pakistan
Egypt 1.5 B
Ethiopia, Uganda, Tanzania, S.Africa each get .5 B
Nigeria .7 B
Mexico, DRC, Columbia, Somalia, S.Sudan, Bangladesh, Haiti each around .3 B
Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Senegal, Ivory coast, Liberia, Mali, Ghana, Malawi, Zimbabwe, Syria, Lebanon, India are all around the .15 - .2 B ranger
And there are at least 2 dozen more countries that get various amounts including Malta and Portugal

Palestinians get around 4.5 B in aid and donations from the US, plus 1.6 B from the UN (which is mostly funded by the US), .25 B each from the EU and Saudi
1,100,000,000 from other sources

So how does 3 B for Israel seem like such a lot?

Thanks for an authoritative explanation. The Jew haters won't be able to digest it though. They'll claim Israel is bleeding us dry. While tearing the hair on their pointy little heads.

 

[SwimExpert]

The U.S. shouldn't give a cent to any nation that lets itself be ruled by supernatural beliefs that it regularly goes to war over.

In that case, we have to cease all taxes to the federal government. Going to war over supernatural beliefs describes a better part of American history.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Just saw on the news.
A group is putting it on billboards.

how much do we give the pals?

how much do we give to saudi arabia?

i love when people only get put out if money goes to israel

I oppose all foreign aid because most of it just ends up in the hands of despots.

If, (and that's a BIG IF) we want to stop ALL foreign aid - then so be it. Just don't expect anyone to come to our aid if it is needed (not that they do now)

Israel is fully aware that we will come to their aid if they are attacked. The Europeans are aware of that as well, but we don't send them foreign aid, so why do we need to bribe Israel and what are exactly are they going to do for us anyway if we were attacked? Most of the countries we send foreign aid to are third world shit holes who never use the money to help their own people anyway.

Haven't studied your history very well, have you?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I believe in supporting our ally, Israel, but this is a heavy price.

Particularly considering what little we get in return.

It is perfectly appropriate to support our allies, including Israel – the problem is Israel doesn't act like much of an 'ally.'

Little?

They stood by and did not attack Iraq when Scud missiles were falling on their cities in the Gulf war! Why? Because we asked them not to!

You need to study your history like a good little high school student.

 

[aris2chat]

give?? Some is economic, most is military. It is a combination of bank guarantees, loans, grants and other aid. 75% is to be spent in the US, so it also help to stimulate the US economy.

US does not just hand Israel that much money, and I think 10 million is a bit high, I thought is was more around 8 million

I might seem high but US aid amounts to 35 billion and Israel only gets around 3 billion of that. It is not a gift.

When most of that 3 billion is not tax payer money it is not such a great amount.

Afghanistan get a billion
Jordan about the same
Pakistan
Egypt 1.5 B
Ethiopia, Uganda, Tanzania, S.Africa each get .5 B
Nigeria .7 B
Mexico, DRC, Columbia, Somalia, S.Sudan, Bangladesh, Haiti each around .3 B
Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Senegal, Ivory coast, Liberia, Mali, Ghana, Malawi, Zimbabwe, Syria, Lebanon, India are all around the .15 - .2 B ranger
And there are at least 2 dozen more countries that get various amounts including Malta and Portugal

Palestinians get around 4.5 B in aid and donations from the US, plus 1.6 B from the UN (which is mostly funded by the US), .25 B each from the EU and Saudi
1,100,000,000 from other sources

So how does 3 B for Israel seem like such a lot?

Thanks for an authoritative explanation. The Jew haters won't be able to digest it though. They'll claim Israel is bleeding us dry. While tearing the hair on their pointy little heads.

actually I think the US is reducing at Israel's request by almost a billion though I don't know if that is in stages or when it is to take effect.

 

[Confounding]

So can a person be against foreign aid during a time of economic turmoil without being a Jew hater, or is that part mandatory?

 

[Confounding]

actually I think the US is reducing at Israel's request by almost a billion though I don't know if that is in stages or when it is to take effect.

Israeli official: Significant disagreement between U.S., Israel over military aid sum - Israel News

Actually I think the US is increasing aid to Israel at Israel's request. They're actually demanding more of an increase than they were offered.

 

[Hossfly]

So can a person be against foreign aid during a time of economic turmoil without being a Jew hater, or is that part mandatory?

Mandatory.

 

[aris2chat]

So can a person be against foreign aid during a time of economic turmoil without being a Jew hater, or is that part mandatory?

You plan to cut aid to palestinians as well of just Israel? What of cutting aid to other nations?
Maybe a 5% across the board to each country plus 5% to the UN?

If you only cut aid to Israel, then it does become a question of motivation on your part.

 

[aris2chat]

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The former Israeli diplomat and active observer on U.S.-Israel relations argued that it is a mistake from the American and Israeli perspectives to talk about the $3.1 billion Israel receives each year from the United States as foreign aid.

Yoram Ettinger
“Americans don’t like those two words, foreign and aid,” he said, and the term is demeaning to Israel. “It paints us as a supplicant when in fact we are a producer.”
He said the $3.1 billion is “an American investment in Israel, and the return on that investment is the highest return of any U.S. investment overseas.”
Ettinger cited several examples of how U.S. military aid to Israel benefits the United States, beyond the fact that Israel spends much of that money to buy American-made products, such as the next-generation F-35 Lightning II, part of which Lockheed Martin builds in Marietta:

• U.S. Special Operations units stop in Israel for three weeks of training on suicide bombers, car bombs and improvised explosive devices whenever they deploy to Iraq or Afghanistan. Ettinger said a soldier he talked to in Birmingham credited that training with his unit’s suffering no fatalities.
• The United States learns effective military tactics from studying Israeli operations. The smashing success against Iraq’s Soviet-made tanks in Operation Desert Storm in 1991 reflected the lessons learned from Israel’s fighting against the same types of tanks in the Sinai.
• Gen. George Keegan, who retired as the Air Force’s intelligence chief in 1977, used to say that whatever intelligence his military branch received from the CIA, it got five times as much from Israel.
• A Northrop Grumman robotics factory in Chattanooga sells anti-explosives robots to Israel. Having Israel as a customer has boosted exports to other countries, which assume Israel will buy only the best, and the robots get even better because of weekly teleconferences in which Israeli experts offer feedback on operations, repairs and maintenance. The robot has effectively gained 10 to 20 years of research and development in far less time and at no cost, driving sales and employment.
• Lockheed’s F-16 plant in Fort Worth, Texas, continually receives lessons learned from Israeli pilots, who push the fighter plane to its limits because every flight they make is within radar and missile range of enemies. A plant manager told Ettinger that roughly 700 modifications to the current F-16 resulted from Israeli feedback, including 70 percent of the changes to the fire control system and 50 percent of the improvements to the cockpit. Those changes have been worth many billions of dollars to Lockheed, and Ettinger said the story is the same for hundreds of U.S. military systems.

“Israel constitutes the largest, most cost-effective and battle-tested laboratory of the American defense industries,” Ettinger said.
He said that despite the personal rift between President Barack Obama and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the U.S.-Israel relationship has never been stronger or more mutually beneficial, and it continues to grow in R&D areas such as high tech, agriculture, water and space.
The one concern Ettinger has is the stigma associated with “foreign aid.” His proposed solution is to phase out the $3.1 billion over a decade, each year diverting $310 million from the aid budget into a joint U.S.-Israeli venture fund focused on a particular area of shared interest, such as satellites, nanotechnology and cybersecurity.
After 10 years, the aid budget would be gone, but the two countries would have 10 well-funded foundations from which to invest in R&D for decades to come.<<

 

[francoHFW]

Isn't most of that money payment to follow the Camp David Accords, with a similar payment to Egypt?

 

[aris2chat]

There are the medical advances that benefit the US in many ways

http://www.aipac.org/learn/about-israel/israels-achievements
List of Israeli inventions and discoveries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Breakthrough cancer cure has deep Israeli roots

 

[Political Junky]

One nation, under God. Our country was founded on Christianity. Unless you are a Christian and have read and understood the Bible, you probably won't understand this country's unwavering support of Isreal.

It's Israel.

 

[aris2chat]

Just saw on the news.
A group is putting it on billboards.

Nothing wrong with that. In fact, we should double it.

We're $19 trillion in debt and you think we should hand out even more money we don't have?

Well, instead of giving hundred of billions a year to countries that hate our guts - I would suggest that we maintain good relations with the ONLY ally we have in the Middle East.

Ally? Tell that to the crew of the USS Liberty

OMG! That again? What of the USS Stark? What of flight 655? What of
Chinese Consulate General in San Francisco?

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1991 Gulf War


Main article: Gulf War § Friendly fire

• During the Battle of Khafji, 11 American Marines were killed in two major incidents when their light armored vehicles (LAV's) were hit by missiles fired by a USAF A-10.
• Two soldiers of the U.S. Army were killed and a further six wounded when an American Boeing AH-64 Apache attack helicopter fired upon and destroyed a U.S. Army Bradley Fighting Vehicle and an M113 Armoured Personnel Carrier (in the same incident) during night operations.
• A British officer was severely injured when his FV510 Warrior vehicle was attacked by a Challenger 1 tank of the Royal Scots Dragoon Guards.
• An American A-10 during Operation Desert Storm attacked British Warrior MICVs, resulting in nine British dead and numerous casualties.
• During the Battle of Phase Line Bullet, American M1 Abrams tanks in the rear fired in support of American troops facing dug-in Iraqi troops. American Infantry Fighting Vehicles were hit by fire from the tanks, resulting in two fatalities.
• Several friendly fire incidents took place during the Battle of 73 Easting, wounding 57 American soldiers, but causing no fatalities.
• One American soldier was killed by friendly fire during the Battle of Medina Ridge.
• Two soldiers from 10 Air Defence Battery, Royal Artillery, were badly injured when two FV103 Spartan from which they had dismounted were fired upon by Challenger 1 tanks from 14th/20th King's Hussars with thermal sights beyond the range of unaided visibility (about 1500 m). The rearmost vehicle was hit and burst into flames. The other vehicle was also damaged in the ensuing fire.
• A large number of friendly fire incidents took place during the Battle of Norfolk, resulting in 5 American casualties.
• A Challenger 1 tank fired several rounds at a British artillery position, resulting in at least 4 casualties.
• In the 1994 Black Hawk shootdown incident, two U.S. Air Force F-15Cs involved with Operation Provide Comfort shot down two U.S. Army UH-60 Black Hawk helicopters over northern Iraq, killing 26 Coalition military and civilian personnel.

War in Afghanistan from 2001

• In the Tarnak Farm incident of 18 April 2002, four Canadian soldiers were killed and eight others injured when U.S. Air National Guard Major Harry Schmidt, dropped a laser-guided 500 lb (230 kg) bomb from his F-16 jet fighter on the Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry regiment which was conducting a night firing exercise near Kandahar. Schmidt was charged with negligent manslaughter, aggravated assault, and dereliction of duty. He was found guilty of the latter charge. During testimony Schmidt blamed the incident on his use of "go pills" (authorized mild stimulants), combined with the 'fog of war'.[115] The Canadian dead received US medals for "bravery", but no apology.
• Pat Tillman, a former professional American football player, was shot and killed by American fire on 22 April 2004. An Army Special Operations Command investigation was conducted by Brigadier General Jones and the U.S. Department of Defense concluded that Pat Tillman's death was due to friendly fire aggravated by the intensity of the firefight. A more thorough investigation concluded that no hostile forces were involved in the firefight and that two allied groups fired on each other in confusion after a nearby explosive device was detonated.
• On 6 April 2006, a British convoy in Afghanistan wounded 13 Afghan police officers and killed seven, after calling in a US airstrike on what they thought was a Taliban attack.[116]
• In Sangin Province, a female RAF Harrier pilot mistakenly strafed British troops missing the enemy by 200 metres during a firefight with the Taliban on 20 August 2006. This angered British Major James Loden of 3 PARA, who in a leaked email called the RAF, "Completely incompetent and utterly, utterly useless in protecting ground troops in Afghanistan". British paratroopers said they rather preferred the United States Air Force over the RAF.[117][118]
• Canadian soldiers opened fire on a white pickup truck, about 25 kilometres west of Kandahar, killing an Afghan officer with 6 others injured on 26 August 2006.[119]
• Operation Medusa (2006): 1 – Two U.S. A-10 Thunderbolts accidentally strafed NATO forces in southern Afghanistan, killing Canadian Private Mark Anthony Graham.
• On 5 December 2006, an F/A-18C on a Close Air Support mission in Helmand Province, Afghanistan, mistakenly attacked a trench where British Royal Marines were dug-in during a 10-hour battle with Taliban fighters, killing one Royal Marine.[120]
• Lance Corporal Matthew Ford, from Zulu Company of 45 Commando Royal Marines, died after receiving a gunshot wound in Afghanistan on 15 January 2007, which was later found to be due to friendly fire. The final inquest ruled he died from NATO rounds from a fellow Royal Marine's machine gun. The report added there was no "negligence" by the other Marine, who had made a "momentary error of judgment".[121][122]
• Canadian troops mistakenly killed an Afghan National Police officer and a homeless beggar after their convoy was ambushed in Kandahar City.[123]
• Of two helicopters called in to support operations by the British Grenadier Guards and Afghan National Army forces in Helmand, the British Westland WAH-64 Apache engaged enemy forces, while the accompanying American AH-64D Apache opened fire on the Grenadiers and Afghan troops.[124]
• 23 August 2007: A USAF F-15 called in to support British ground forces in Afghanistan dropped a bomb on those forces. Three privates of the 1st Battalion, the Royal Anglian Regiment, were killed and two others were severely injured. It was later revealed that the British forward air controller who called in the strike had not been issued a noise-cancelling headset, and while he supplied the correct target co-ordinates, in the confusion and stress of the battle incorrectly confirmed one wrong digit mistakenly repeated by the pilot, and the bomb landed on the British position 1000 metres away from the enemy.[125] The coroner at the soldiers' inquest stated that the incident was due to "flawed application of procedures" rather than individual errors or "recklessness".[126]
• British soldiers in operations in Helmand Province, Afghanistan, fired Javelin anti-tank missiles at Danish soldiers from the Royal Life Guards, killing two.[127] It is also confirmed from Danish forces that the British fired a total of 6–8 Javelin missiles, over a 1½ hour period and only after the attack was completed did they realize that the missiles were British, based upon the fragments found after the incident.[128]
• On 12 January 2008, two Dutch soldiers and two allied Afghan soldiers were shot dead by fellow Dutch soldiers in Uruzgan, Afghanistan.[129]
• In the night on 14 January 2008 in Helmand Province, British troops saw a bunch of Afghans "conducting suspicious activities". Visibility was too bad for rifle-fire and they were too far away to call in mortar strikes. The squad decided to use a Javelin anti-tank missile they were carrying. British soldiers fired their missile on the nearby roof but the victims were their own Afghan army sentries. 15 Afghan soldiers were killed.[130]
• On 9 July 2008, nine British soldiers from the 2nd Battalion, The Parachute Regiment were injured after being fired upon by a British Army Apache helicopter while on patrol in Afghanistan.[131]
• A statement issued jointly by the American and the Afghan military commands said a contingent of Afghan police officers fired on United States forces on 10 December 2008 after the Americans had successfully overrun the hide-out, killing the suspected Taliban commander and detaining another man. The US forces after securing the hideout came under heavy small arms fire and explosive grenades from the Afghan Police forces. "Multiple attempts to deter the engagement were unsuccessful," and the US forces returned fire. Afghan police have stated that they came under fire first and that the initial firing on the US forces came from the building next to the police station. This has led the US forces to conclude that the Afghan police forces might have been compromised. Initial reports indicate that this was a tragic case of mistaken identity on both parts.[132]
• Captain Tom Sawyer, aged 26, 29 Commando Regiment Royal Artillery, and Corporal Danny Winter, aged 28, Zulu Company 45 Commando Royal Marines, were killed by an explosion on 14 January 2009. Both men were taking part in a joint operation with a Danish Battle Group and the Afghan National Army in a location north east of Gereshk in central Helmand Province. The MoD subsequently confirmed that two men died from friendly fire when they were hit in error by a Javelin anti-tank missile fired by British troops.[133]
• On 9 September 2009, British Special Boat Service forces were sent to rescue New York Times journalist Stephen Farrell and his Afghan translator Sultan Munadi who were kidnapped by Taliban forces in northern Afghanistan near Kunduz four days earlier. During the raid, Farrell was rescued, but Munadi was shot and killed in the firefight between the Taliban and British forces. It is later found out that Munadi was running towards the helicopter when he was shot in the front by a British soldier, in addition to being shot in the back by the Taliban, after the British mistook him for the Taliban. Two Afghan civilians also died from the hail of bullets by British and Taliban forces.
• A British Military Police officer was shot dead by a fellow British soldier while on patrol.[134] It was reported that no charges are to be brought against a British army sniper who killed a British Military Policeman because he was allowed to open fire if he believed that his life was in danger.[135]
• In December 2009, British commanders called upon a U.S. airstrike which killed Lance Corporal Christopher Roney from 3rd Battalion The Rifles who was engaging along with his comrades with the Taliban. The incident happened when a firefight was going on between British soldiers of 3rd Battalion The Rifles and the insurgents in Sangin Province. Senior British officers were watching a drone's grainy images of the fight from Camp Bastion, about 30 miles from the battle at Patrol Base Almas. The officers mistook the soldiers' mud-walled compound for an enemy position and called down a U.S. Apache airstrike on the base. Roney was fatally shot in the head after a helicopter gunship opened fire on the base. He died later the next day after being taken to Camp Bastion. Eleven other British soldiers were wounded in the attack. The coroner criticised the British commanders for the fact Patrol Base Almas was not marked on military maps, for the 'unprofessional' use of grainy images and for insisting there were no friendly forces in the area to the Apache crew.[136]
• German soldiers killed six Afghan soldiers in a friendly fire incident on their way to attack a group of Taliban. Afghan soldiers were traveling in support of other Afghan troops in the area. The German Patrol opened fire killing six.[137]
• Sapper Mark Antony Smith, age 26, of the 36 Engineer Regiment, Royal Engineers, was killed by a smoke shell fired upon by British troops in Sangin Province, Afghanistan. The MoD is investigating his death and said a smoke shell, designed to provide cover for soldiers working on the ground, may have fallen short of its intended target.[138][139]
• Friendly fire between ISAF and Pakistan on 26 November 2011. ISAF forces opened fire on Pakistani forces killing 24 Pakistani soldiers and causing a great diplomatic standoff between U.S. and Pakistan. ISAF forces argue they were there to hunt down militants at the AF-PAK border. Pakistan had stopped transit of goods through its territory to ISAF in Afghanistan because of the incident. After an official apology by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on 3 July 2012 the NATO supply routes were restored.
• Two New Zealand soldiers were wounded by friendly fire from a 25mm gun mounted on an armored New Zealand LAV during a 12-minute firefight with insurgents in Bamyan Province on 4 August 2012.[140][141]
• A British female soldier and a Royal Marine man were mistakenly killed by another British unit on patrol after her unit opened fire on an Afghan policeman assuming he was a Taliban insurgent. The British unit who killed a female soldier and a Royal Marine assumed they were under attack after the firing happened.[142]
• Five United States Special forces operatives, an Afghan Army counterpart, and an interpreter were killed by friendly fire in Southern Zabul Province on June 9, 2014. Whilst on patrol, and coming under heavy Taliban fire, an air-strike was called in and a B-1 Lancer bomber misdirected its payload killing the seven military pesonnel amongst others.[143][144]

Iraq War from 2003

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Video of the 28 March 2003 friendly fire incident, showing errors of identification

• In the Battle of Nasiriyah, an American force of Amphibious Assault Vehicles (AAVs) and infantry under intense enemy fire were misidentified as an Iraqi armored column by two U.S. Air Force A-10s who carried out bombing and strafing runs on them. One U.S. Marine was killed and 17 were wounded as a result.
• A U.S. Patriot missile shot down a British Panavia Tornado GR.4A of No. 13 Squadron RAF, killing the pilot and navigator. Investigations showed that the Tornado's identification friend or foe indicator had malfunctioned and hence it was not identified as a friendly aircraft.[145][146]
• Sgt Steven Roberts, a tank commander of the 2nd Royal Tank Regiment, was killed when a fellow British soldier manning a tank-mounted machine gun mistakenly hit him while firing at a stone wielding Iraqi protester at a roadblock in Az Zubayr near Basra on 24 March 2003.[147] It was reported that no British soldiers were to be charged for his death.[148]
• A British Challenger 2 tank came under fire from another British tank in a nighttime firefight. The turret was blown off and two of the crewmembers were killed.[149][150]
• 190th Fighter Squadron/Blues and Royals friendly fire incident – 28 March 2003. A pair of American A-10s from the 190th attacked four British armoured reconnaissance vehicles of the Blues and Royals, killing L/CoH. Matty Hull and injuring five others.
• British Royal Marine Christopher Maddison was killed when his river patrol boat was hit by missiles after being wrongly identified as an enemy vessel approaching a Royal Engineers checkpoint on the Al-Faw Peninsula, Iraq.[151]
• U.S. Patriot missile batteries fired two missiles on a U.S. Navy F/A-18C Hornet 50 mi (80 km) from Karbala, Iraq.[152] One missile hit the aircraft of pilot Lieutenant Nathan Dennis White of VFA-195, Carrier Air Wing Five, killing him. This was the result of the missile design flaw in identifying hostile aircraft.[153]
• American aircraft attacked a friendly Kurdish & U.S. Special Forces convoy, killing 15. BBC translator Kamaran Abdurazaq Muhamed was killed and BBC reporter Tom Giles and World Affairs Editor John Simpson were injured. The incident was filmed.[154]
• Fusilier Kelan Turrington, of the 1st Battalion, Royal Regiment of Fusiliers, was killed by machine-gun fire from a British tank.[155]
• American soldier Mario Lozano killed an Italian intelligence officer Nicola Calipari and is suspected of wounding Italian journalist Giuliana Sgrena in Baghdad. Sgrena was rescued from a kidnapping by Calipari, and it was claimed that the car they were escaping in failed to stop at an American checkpoint, whereupon U.S. soldiers opened fire. Video evidence shows the car was respecting speed limits and proceeding with its headlights on. The shooting commenced well before 50 meters, in contrast with what Lozano and other soldiers testified.[156]
• During a raid on 16 July 2006 to apprehend a key terrorist leader and accomplice in a suburb of North Basra, Cpl John Cosby, of the Devonshire and Dorset Regiment, was killed by a 5.56 mm round from a British-issued SA80. It was ruled to be a case of friendly fire by the coroner. It was reported that the British forces who shot him were unclear about the rules of engagement.[157][158]
• An American airstrike killed eight Kurdish Iraqi soldiers. Kurdish officials advised U.S. helicopters hit the men who were guarding a branch of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) in Mosul. The U.S. military said the attack was launched after soldiers identified armed men in a bunker near a building reportedly used for bomb-making, and that American troops called for the men to put down their weapons in Arabic and Kurdish before launching the strike.[159]
• Dave Sharrett, II was shot and killed in a firefight with insurgents near the village of Bichigan, north of Baghdad in January 2008, during Operation Hood Harvest. The incident has since been described as friendly fire.[160]
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Friendly fire and fog of war or mistakes happen in war and peace. How many US have been lost and how many have we killed in such incidents

8 Worst Cases of Friendly Fire - Listverse

As for the liberty, there were faults by the US that contributed to the lack of identification. US Navy was asked by Israel if they had ships in the area and were repeated told no.

Liberty fired, against McGonagle's orders, on the Israel torpedo boats.

It was a tragedy, but the US was not an innocent victim. Mistakes were made on both sides.


PS the crew of the liberty change their sworn testimony a number of times over the years.

 

[NYcarbineer]

And in the process, the US taxpayer is paying for Israeli abortions, if you use the anti-Planned Parenthood argument.

The Israeli government pays for abortions. lol, they don't have a Hyde Amendment.

Therefore when US taxpayer money goes into the coffers of the Israeli government, some of it comes out paying for abortions.

That was the anti's argument about PP, remember?

So why are the anti-abortion nuts silent on this?

 

[TNHarley]

Too much. Cut it all off. We have people sleeping in the street and our own children starving. I mean, seriously.. WTF?